Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Hi Bill, It was wonderful to have the opportunity to speak with Janet over the phone. I really felt compelled to let her know that other woman have dealt with breast cancer in a more holistic way. All of our situations are different because of the variables we face. The closes woman that I know to Janet's situation is Patty Saccoman. Do you know if she spoke to her yet? I want to commend you for encouraging and supporting Janet through this whole ordeal. I never would have to courage to stand up to the allopathic doctors and do what my gut told me if I didn't have the support of my family. There were times when I thought to just go through the mastectomy (that's what was being recommended for me) and do what the doctors wanted. In the low times my family bolstered me up and reminded me that there are no guarantees either way. That they love me the most and wouldn't sway me toward something that was bad. However, it is the hardest decision a person has to make. The feeling that making the wrong decision could cost you your life. After being through the hard emotional battles and looking back, I now feel that it was what the allopathic doctors said that kept playing in my head again and again. The allopathic doctors chose to use scare tactics to try and get me to do what they wanted. The reality is that they can't guarantee anything. I've finally come full circle with the emotions and am ready if this thing ever comes back again. I don't think I'll ever go through conventional medicine again (the only conventional I did was chemo to shrink the tumor before I was supposed to have surgery). There are just way too many alternatives out there. Besides, it's now how long we are on this earth but our actions and beliefs that count. Believe me, I'm only 41 and don't really want to die any time soon, but it's another piece to the alternative cancer puzzle that helps a person come to grips with their decisions. Janet's decision has to come from her. Even if she decides to do surgery, it doesn't deem her a failure. I know many woman who combine both methods. She has to feel totally comfortable with what she is doing. It takes an extreme amount of courage to step outside the box. When you go see that doctor today, get ready to hear a lot of scary things. Especially if you tell them you are considering no surgery. The man in the white coat is not God and he can't give you a 100% guarantee either. All that said, it's still very very hard to go against it. I know you will support Janet in whatever decision she decides is best for herself. You know, it wouldn't be the end of the world if she had a lumpectomy and then continued her holistic therapies. That way the tumor would be gone and then all she'd have to worry about are the possiblity of cells floating around in there. She could do the AMAS test to monitor the loose cells. I really think she can do the whole thing herself, but if she has to believe it. No matter what, the person who survives cancer has to really believe in their heart that the method they are using is right for them. Keep gently encouraging Janet. Don't stop researching. Feel free to call or e-mail me anytime. God Bless, Mona Thanks for the meditation information. That's another important link. [ ] Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: Ron, Mona Hi Ron, We're in England now, after a wonderful week wandering around Iceland, enjoying the beauty and soaking in hot springs, away from computers, cancer research., etc. Recharged for the continuing adventure. We've continued with a very strict diet to help alkalize and simply not put anything into the body that the cancer likes. Basically it's fruit and vegetables and supplements. Janet's helthy and energetic. We're scheduled to meet with Janet's doctors tomorrow, at the very least we'll get another view on what they suggest as well as their view on what I suggest. That will be interesting. Janet still has May 10th scheduled for a mastectomy, although she STILL(!) has not made up her mind as to which route she will take, conventional or alternative, despite the obvious downsides of surgery. On the very positive side, she's happy, healthy and maybe leaning a little more toward alternatives, as Mona noted. Although Janet's not decided, she's definitely interested in the Schulze program and also Haelan because of Mona's call. The best thing is that we keep finding out about more ways that people have used to successfully treat cancer themselves. There are so many positive possibilities with alternatives that it's difficult to understand going conventional. Ron, yes, let's definitely stay in touch, whether on the group list or privately if you want to contact me any time. Best wishes to you and your wife. Have faith that all works in time. Make sure you are healthy and support your wife the best you can, good luck keeping her away from chemo, radiation and tamoxifen- there are much better ways and I hope she opens her eyes to a healthier way. By the way, I believe that Janet's cancer is as much for me to deal with as it is for her. You mention your anger; I have mine, too. It's OK to be angry, but be careful to accept it and not let it rule or hurt you. Observe it. Something I did last year (and will do again) and I suggest it for anyone and everyone is a 10 day Vipassana silent meditation. Check out http://www.dhamma.org/ Best wishes, Bill Bill > > We need help from others farther down the path of healing breast > > cancer. Here's the story so far: > > > > My partner, Janet, was diagnosed last month with invasive ductal > > carcinoma. 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 my own wife had a lump non cancerous around 2000 here on cape cod where cancer rates are highest *yet the water is safest to drink. the radiologist found nothing *yet the mammogram was almost identical to someones elses. the lump was removed and eventually the original mammogram " disappeared " never to be seen again. gods awful truth. i am glad (but not happily) that this subject came up. my wife and i found something new above her left nipple by an inch and is nearly the size of a m and m. bill [ ] Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: Ron, Mona Hi Bill, Well my wife has had the lymph nodes level 1 and 2 removed, last Friday (30/4/2004). For the first time yesterday she looked at herself properly and realised how much more of her chest is now gone and it devastated her. Today she seems to have accepted things again and is moving on.. She has scheduled herself to see the chemo doc on the 19/5/2004. The problem I also have at the moment is not only talking her off the chemo but to be able to get her fully switched to a new diet and lifestyle. That in itself is difficult without full commitment. The surgery has knocked the crap out of her having two sessions now, and she walks around like an old woman, currently she still has the drain in for excess fluids, but it looks like it may come out soon. I look at her and wonder how they can call this treatment, even the cancer unchecked would take longer to get her into this condition. Part of the lifestyle change would be to get more exercise, aerate the body, but that's almost impossible now with the condition she is in. Anyway I have her on flaxseed oil (budwig style) and vitamin C (3g/day), Juices, Omega-3, Glutathione (major antioxidant), Meta I-3- C (Indole-3-Carbinol). But getting her off wrong foods is a struggle. I also have no idea whether it may help as now there is no evidence to monitor. Anyway I am hoping still. Yep keep in touch.. Ron.. > > > We need help from others farther down the path of healing breast > > > cancer. Here's the story so far: > > > > > > My partner, Janet, was diagnosed last month with invasive ductal > > > carcinoma. The doctor's recommendation was for immediate > surgery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Ron, Hi, I'm Mona who has been battling breast cancer myself. My heart goes out to you and your wife. You, because you're trying to get her on the holistic path and standing by her through this and she because what all this allopathic stuff has done to her. Hang in there, things will get better. It sounds like you are giving her a lot of immune support. Keep flushing her system with as much purified water as she can handle, 1/2 her body weight in ounces. Get her up and walking. Even if it's around the block, house or yard. Keep researching and talking with her about holistic. The more they do to her, the more she'll see that something is wrong with their methods. Keep me posted. Mona [ ] Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: Ron, Mona Hi Bill, Well my wife has had the lymph nodes level 1 and 2 removed, last Friday (30/4/2004). For the first time yesterday she looked at herself properly and realised how much more of her chest is now gone and it devastated her. Today she seems to have accepted things again and is moving on.. She has scheduled herself to see the chemo doc on the 19/5/2004. The problem I also have at the moment is not only talking her off the chemo but to be able to get her fully switched to a new diet and lifestyle. That in itself is difficult without full commitment. The surgery has knocked the crap out of her having two sessions now, and she walks around like an old woman, currently she still has the drain in for excess fluids, but it looks like it may come out soon. I look at her and wonder how they can call this treatment, even the cancer unchecked would take longer to get her into this condition. Part of the lifestyle change would be to get more exercise, aerate the body, but that's almost impossible now with the condition she is in. Anyway I have her on flaxseed oil (budwig style) and vitamin C (3g/day), Juices, Omega-3, Glutathione (major antioxidant), Meta I-3- C (Indole-3-Carbinol). But getting her off wrong foods is a struggle. I also have no idea whether it may help as now there is no evidence to monitor. Anyway I am hoping still. Yep keep in touch.. Ron.. > > > We need help from others farther down the path of healing breast > > > cancer. Here's the story so far: > > > > > > My partner, Janet, was diagnosed last month with invasive ductal > > > carcinoma. The doctor's recommendation was for immediate > surgery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 hi lumpers over here...today a doctors visit, yesterday, the discovery. this is #2 in our lives. everyone getting it now or is it the world is preparing my wife and i for what you know of us? as if what you write is exactly what is going on word for word in our lives, with your names attached instead of ours. well, thankx william & leonda [ ] Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: Ron, Mona Hi Bill, Well my wife has had the lymph nodes level 1 and 2 removed, last Friday (30/4/2004). For the first time yesterday she looked at herself properly and realised how much more of her chest is now gone and it devastated her. Today she seems to have accepted things again and is moving on.. She has scheduled herself to see the chemo doc on the 19/5/2004. The problem I also have at the moment is not only talking her off the chemo but to be able to get her fully switched to a new diet and lifestyle. That in itself is difficult without full commitment. The surgery has knocked the crap out of her having two sessions now, and she walks around like an old woman, currently she still has the drain in for excess fluids, but it looks like it may come out soon. I look at her and wonder how they can call this treatment, even the cancer unchecked would take longer to get her into this condition. Part of the lifestyle change would be to get more exercise, aerate the body, but that's almost impossible now with the condition she is in. Anyway I have her on flaxseed oil (budwig style) and vitamin C (3g/day), Juices, Omega-3, Glutathione (major antioxidant), Meta I-3- C (Indole-3-Carbinol). But getting her off wrong foods is a struggle. I also have no idea whether it may help as now there is no evidence to monitor. Anyway I am hoping still. Yep keep in touch.. Ron.. > > > We need help from others farther down the path of healing breast > > > cancer. Here's the story so far: > > > > > > My partner, Janet, was diagnosed last month with invasive ductal > > > carcinoma. The doctor's recommendation was for immediate > surgery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Hi There, Just read your response. Being diagnosed with cancer is not a death sentence. It's a wake up call. You wife is totally overwhelmed right now. She needs time to sort this thing out. Is she open to holistic therapies, or does she want to follow everything the doctor says? At first I wanted to follow doctors orders. However, after I started chemo my gut just told me something was wrong. I've been following it ever since and haven't looked back at conventional since. She needs to take the first step towards holistic. You can't shove it down her throat. Just keep talking holistic and sharing e-mails about people who are battling cancer without conventional. Let me know if you need anything. God Bless, Mona [ ] Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: Ron, Mona Hi Bill, Well my wife has had the lymph nodes level 1 and 2 removed, last Friday (30/4/2004). For the first time yesterday she looked at herself properly and realised how much more of her chest is now gone and it devastated her. Today she seems to have accepted things again and is moving on.. She has scheduled herself to see the chemo doc on the 19/5/2004. The problem I also have at the moment is not only talking her off the chemo but to be able to get her fully switched to a new diet and lifestyle. That in itself is difficult without full commitment. The surgery has knocked the crap out of her having two sessions now, and she walks around like an old woman, currently she still has the drain in for excess fluids, but it looks like it may come out soon. I look at her and wonder how they can call this treatment, even the cancer unchecked would take longer to get her into this condition. Part of the lifestyle change would be to get more exercise, aerate the body, but that's almost impossible now with the condition she is in. Anyway I have her on flaxseed oil (budwig style) and vitamin C (3g/day), Juices, Omega-3, Glutathione (major antioxidant), Meta I-3- C (Indole-3-Carbinol). But getting her off wrong foods is a struggle. I also have no idea whether it may help as now there is no evidence to monitor. Anyway I am hoping still. Yep keep in touch.. Ron.. > > > We need help from others farther down the path of healing breast > > > cancer. Here's the story so far: > > > > > > My partner, Janet, was diagnosed last month with invasive ductal > > > carcinoma. The doctor's recommendation was for immediate > surgery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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