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In a message dated 3/2/2004 11:46:00 PM Central Standard Time,

tracibrown1@... writes:

absolutely innapropriate for a weight loss group. It is this and many other

similar topics of conversation that drive me away from here everytime I

finally check back in and start to ask a question. Totally pushy and wrong,

not to mention judgemental.

________________________________

I am absolutely fine with any off topic discussion. I think that is what

makes this group special. It is not just a WLS group, but a group of friends

who have WLS as a common factor.

We try to keep on topic, but if you look back I'd say it is 50/50. If I

wanted all WLS all the time, I'd go to another group.

I would just try to remember that on this group, we sometimes forget to

put off topic in the subject, I know I will be trying harder...But I'm only

human...LOL. I KNOW i forget to change subject lines...So darned connvenient to

hit reply.

I don't think anyone intended to offend. They just wrote about a subject

they felt passionate about. It would be very hard to eliminate all religious

references altogether. Even though I am not attending church right now, I very

much believe in God, as I'm sure most do. I tell people to pray or ask for

prayer as a means of support for things in my life. I mean to keep from

offending

anyone ...I guess we coud eliminate any references to God or christ, but

that would be anything related to Christmas..... or Hannauka for the christians

to not be offended. For some people there religion is part of who they are just

like hair color or height.

I love this group as it is...Off topic subjects and all. Don't get me

wrong, I'm not saying the last didn't get a little heated, but if it doesn't

interest you, ignore it. That's what I do. Obviously there was a little interest

in the subject, because there were so many responses. As far as I noticed all

were posted with the subject line that it was related to the movie. Please

don't eliminate the fun stuff to make it all WLS ....This group is way more than

that. Support with just enough Off topic to make it interesting. I just don't

know what poor Jim would do if he couldn't threaten us with his monkeys!!!

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 130 lbs (377.7 to 247.2 and still going)

BMI 39.4...No longer Morbidly obese!

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 3/2/2004 11:46:00 PM Central Standard Time,

tracibrown1@... writes:

absolutely innapropriate for a weight loss group. It is this and many other

similar topics of conversation that drive me away from here everytime I

finally check back in and start to ask a question. Totally pushy and wrong,

not to mention judgemental.

________________________________

I am absolutely fine with any off topic discussion. I think that is what

makes this group special. It is not just a WLS group, but a group of friends

who have WLS as a common factor.

We try to keep on topic, but if you look back I'd say it is 50/50. If I

wanted all WLS all the time, I'd go to another group.

I would just try to remember that on this group, we sometimes forget to

put off topic in the subject, I know I will be trying harder...But I'm only

human...LOL. I KNOW i forget to change subject lines...So darned connvenient to

hit reply.

I don't think anyone intended to offend. They just wrote about a subject

they felt passionate about. It would be very hard to eliminate all religious

references altogether. Even though I am not attending church right now, I very

much believe in God, as I'm sure most do. I tell people to pray or ask for

prayer as a means of support for things in my life. I mean to keep from

offending

anyone ...I guess we coud eliminate any references to God or christ, but

that would be anything related to Christmas..... or Hannauka for the christians

to not be offended. For some people there religion is part of who they are just

like hair color or height.

I love this group as it is...Off topic subjects and all. Don't get me

wrong, I'm not saying the last didn't get a little heated, but if it doesn't

interest you, ignore it. That's what I do. Obviously there was a little interest

in the subject, because there were so many responses. As far as I noticed all

were posted with the subject line that it was related to the movie. Please

don't eliminate the fun stuff to make it all WLS ....This group is way more than

that. Support with just enough Off topic to make it interesting. I just don't

know what poor Jim would do if he couldn't threaten us with his monkeys!!!

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 130 lbs (377.7 to 247.2 and still going)

BMI 39.4...No longer Morbidly obese!

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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I'm sorry you feel driven from the group, Traci. Perhaps a quick look at the

subject line will allow you to delete what you do not wish to read, and read

only that which you wish to read. That's what I do.

Please continue to ask your questions.

Jim

_____

From: Traci Brown [mailto:tracibrown1@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:07 PM

Subject: Wrong

* absolutely innapropriate for a weight loss group. It is this and

many other

similar topics of conversation that drive me away from here everytime I

finally check back in and start to ask a question. Totally pushy and wrong,

not to mention judgemental.

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I'm sorry you feel driven from the group, Traci. Perhaps a quick look at the

subject line will allow you to delete what you do not wish to read, and read

only that which you wish to read. That's what I do.

Please continue to ask your questions.

Jim

_____

From: Traci Brown [mailto:tracibrown1@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:07 PM

Subject: Wrong

* absolutely innapropriate for a weight loss group. It is this and

many other

similar topics of conversation that drive me away from here everytime I

finally check back in and start to ask a question. Totally pushy and wrong,

not to mention judgemental.

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Traci

If you have a question(s) please go ahead and ask. As a group when

we don't have questions or problems to try to answer we tend to

wander and chat. Don't let our chatting get in the way of getting

support that you may need.

Hugs

Jo

P.S. Sometimes the other Keshishian list is more suited to people

who don't like the off topic chatter. That list does not produce

the Volume of post that this one does.

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Traci

If you have a question(s) please go ahead and ask. As a group when

we don't have questions or problems to try to answer we tend to

wander and chat. Don't let our chatting get in the way of getting

support that you may need.

Hugs

Jo

P.S. Sometimes the other Keshishian list is more suited to people

who don't like the off topic chatter. That list does not produce

the Volume of post that this one does.

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Mel,

Amen!

> ________________________________

> I am absolutely fine with any off topic discussion. I think that

> is what

> makes this group special. It is not just a WLS group, but a group of

> friends

> who have WLS as a common factor.

> We try to keep on topic, but if you look back I'd say it is

> 50/50. If I

> wanted all WLS all the time, I'd go to another group.

> I would just try to remember that on this group, we sometimes

> forget to

> put off topic in the subject, I know I will be trying harder...But

> I'm only

> human...LOL. I KNOW i forget to change subject lines...So darned

> connvenient to

> hit reply.

> I don't think anyone intended to offend. They just wrote about a

> subject

> they felt passionate about. It would be very hard to eliminate all

> religious

> references altogether. Even though I am not attending church right

> now, I very

> much believe in God, as I'm sure most do. I tell people to pray or

> ask for

> prayer as a means of support for things in my life. I mean to keep

> from offending

> anyone ...I guess we coud eliminate any references to God or

> christ, but

> that would be anything related to Christmas..... or Hannauka for the

> christians

> to not be offended. For some people there religion is part of who

> they are just

> like hair color or height.

> I love this group as it is...Off topic subjects and all. Don't

> get me

> wrong, I'm not saying the last didn't get a little heated, but if it

> doesn't

> interest you, ignore it. That's what I do. Obviously there was a

> little interest

> in the subject, because there were so many responses. As far as I

> noticed all

> were posted with the subject line that it was related to the movie.

> Please

> don't eliminate the fun stuff to make it all WLS ....This group is

> way more than

> that. Support with just enough Off topic to make it interesting. I

> just don't

> know what poor Jim would do if he couldn't threaten us with his

> monkeys!!!

>

> in Bama

> VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

> VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

> RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 130 lbs (377.7 to 247.2 and still

> going)

> BMI 39.4...No longer Morbidly obese!

> Homepage address-

> http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

> Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

>

>

>

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Well said Jim! Also I hear what Mel is saying as we all need to be

careful to keep the threads " clean " so those who want to avoid

certain topic lines don't miss relevant DS information that might be

added to certain threads. I love that our group is " friends " and that

we can talk like friends not just WLS patients!

hugs, cindy lee

> I'm sorry you feel driven from the group, Traci. Perhaps a quick

look at the

> subject line will allow you to delete what you do not wish to read,

and read

> only that which you wish to read. That's what I do.

>

>

>

> Please continue to ask your questions.

>

>

>

> Jim

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Traci Brown [mailto:tracibrown1@h...]

> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:07 PM

>

> Subject: Wrong

>

>

>

> * absolutely innapropriate for a weight loss group. It is this

and

> many other

> similar topics of conversation that drive me away from here

everytime I

> finally check back in and start to ask a question. Totally pushy

and wrong,

> not to mention judgemental.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/3/2004 11:52:57 AM Central Standard Time,

tracibrown1@... writes:

I, again, will be taking a break anyway, so don't feel the need to stop all

your chatter. I am not getting the surgery anyway at this point, so I really

have no business here. Take care, continue on...

__________________________--

I wish that you'd stay. Anyone who needs support deserves it, but if this

group isn't what You need, I don't see sense in wasting your time.

My only question is if the topic was offensive, then why continue to read

the thread? Delete it and be done with it that way those who are interestred

can read it. I know some are offended by talk of Farting and pooping so I add

that to the topic line if it occurs, so why not with other topics?

Our group is a bunch of diverse people. What offends you might be of

significance to me. I had asked about the film, and plan to see it. It was

interesting to see others reaction to it. I still maintain that with appropriate

subject headers the topic was fine. While I don't go to church now, I do

believe.

I respect your right to believe as you feel and expect you to not stand in

judgement of me for whatever I believe or don't believe.

Your condemnation of the post in question was judgemental of the author

because she expressed her belief. Yet you condemn her for standing in

judgement of others....Funny huh?

With this I shall shut my mouth and end my say on this topic.

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 130 lbs (377.7 to 247.2 and still going)

BMI 39.4...No longer Morbidly obese!

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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I don't mean mentioning Jesus or religion as wrong in general. If you

re-read this post I am refering to, you might see what I mean. This

post/topic in particular was directly offensive to those non-believers or

those not very active in the religious community. It was slamming certain

individuals, and I think most people didn't see it that way because they are

highly religious so the first half of it was very meaningful and the second

half did not effect them. I have my own Christian beliefs and morals, but do

not practice in the church any longer. I am not offended at all by religious

mention, prayers, and debate on films and such. I am offended by non-belief

bashing statements.

I, again, will be taking a break anyway, so don't feel the need to stop all

your chatter. I am not getting the surgery anyway at this point, so I really

have no business here. Take care, continue on...

>From: MDL1031@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Wrong

>Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 03:34:24 EST

>

>In a message dated 3/2/2004 11:46:00 PM Central Standard Time,

>tracibrown1@... writes:

>absolutely innapropriate for a weight loss group. It is this and many other

>similar topics of conversation that drive me away from here everytime I

>finally check back in and start to ask a question. Totally pushy and wrong,

>not to mention judgemental.

>________________________________

> I am absolutely fine with any off topic discussion. I think that is

>what

>makes this group special. It is not just a WLS group, but a group of

>friends

>who have WLS as a common factor.

> We try to keep on topic, but if you look back I'd say it is 50/50. If

>I

>wanted all WLS all the time, I'd go to another group.

> I would just try to remember that on this group, we sometimes forget

>to

>put off topic in the subject, I know I will be trying harder...But I'm only

>human...LOL. I KNOW i forget to change subject lines...So darned

>connvenient to

>hit reply.

> I don't think anyone intended to offend. They just wrote about a

>subject

>they felt passionate about. It would be very hard to eliminate all

>religious

>references altogether. Even though I am not attending church right now, I

>very

>much believe in God, as I'm sure most do. I tell people to pray or ask for

>prayer as a means of support for things in my life. I mean to keep from

>offending

>anyone ...I guess we coud eliminate any references to God or christ, but

>that would be anything related to Christmas..... or Hannauka for the

>christians

>to not be offended. For some people there religion is part of who they are

>just

>like hair color or height.

> I love this group as it is...Off topic subjects and all. Don't get me

>wrong, I'm not saying the last didn't get a little heated, but if it

>doesn't

>interest you, ignore it. That's what I do. Obviously there was a little

>interest

>in the subject, because there were so many responses. As far as I noticed

>all

>were posted with the subject line that it was related to the movie. Please

>don't eliminate the fun stuff to make it all WLS ....This group is way more

>than

>that. Support with just enough Off topic to make it interesting. I just

>don't

>know what poor Jim would do if he couldn't threaten us with his monkeys!!!

>

> in Bama

>VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

>VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

>RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 130 lbs (377.7 to 247.2 and still going)

>BMI 39.4...No longer Morbidly obese!

>Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

>Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

>

>

>

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> I, again, will be taking a break anyway, so don't feel the need to

stop all

> your chatter. I am not getting the surgery anyway at this point,

so I really

> have no business here. Take care,

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Traci,

Pleae don't feel like you need to leave, as this is a great place to

info on the surgery.Even if it is going to be awhile before you are

able to get your surgery you are so very welcome here to feel free to

ask questions.Don't leave us,just take a break if you have to but

please come back.

God bless,

Pat

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>

> I, again, will be taking a break anyway, so don't feel the need to

stop all

> your chatter. I am not getting the surgery anyway at this point,

so I really

> have no business here. Take care,

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Traci,

Pleae don't feel like you need to leave, as this is a great place to

info on the surgery.Even if it is going to be awhile before you are

able to get your surgery you are so very welcome here to feel free to

ask questions.Don't leave us,just take a break if you have to but

please come back.

God bless,

Pat

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