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You can get good quality Avena Sativa in bulk powder from www.beyond-

a-century.com. Look into Nettle for reducing SHBG if you are not low

on DHT, otherwise not a good idea. Muira Puama may also increase free

T by reducing SHBG.

> > >

> > > There is a product being sold that is supposed to increase the

free

> > testosterone.

> > >

> > > It has these supplements:

> > >

> > > Avena Sativa (with at least 7% Avenacosides A & B) 500 mgs

> > > Muara Puama: 12:1 active extract 500mgs

> > > Trimethyglycine 1000mgs

> > > Xanthoparmilia Scabrosa: 50mgs

> > > Urtica dioica: 100 mgs

> > > Ashwagandha: Standardized to 1.5%Withanolides 500 mgs

> > >

> > > One of the best ways to determine a healthy " Free Testosterone "

> > level is through " non-

> > > stimulative erectile function. " What that means in plain

English is

> > this: When you wake up

> > > from a night's sleep, even though there's been no sexual

> > stimulation, you should have an

> > > erection (which is always the case when you're 17 years old and

> > hormones are raging). If

> > > you don't, then there's a good chance your Free Testosterone is

low.

> > >

> > > Anyone have any info on these supplements?

> > >

> > > I have used Avena Sativa and did notice that it helped, this was

> > before TRT.

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Hey maybe this is why my ED got 80% better and I started having an orgasm again.

I mean after over 10 yrs. of this I was giving up. I never had a good Free T

level until I got my E2 Estradiol down. My Total T was 947 and Free T was 7.4

range >59 yrs. 5.6 to 19. The next month after taking Arimidex .5 mgs. everyday

my Total T jumped to 1258 and my Free T jumped to >50 how far over 50 your guess

is as good as mine. But after this a lot of problems I had were gone. At the

time I was doing 10 grams of Testim and getting a 200 mg. shot of Depo T. every

other week.

So for the next 6 months we just did the Testim. This is when my joints and

muscles started to hurt again.

My Total T stayed at 600 and my Free T. 23.5 my sex life was great but I was

becoming crippled with joint and muscle pain. Most times my Back would hurt so

bad I could not have sex. As long as I get a shot my pain gets a lot better.

So maybe it is true about higher Free T.

Phil

theta_2k <pohare@...> wrote:

Avena Sativa is wild oats, funny huh?

I bought mine couple years ago from GNC and and it did work, one of the reasons

i figured

i had low testosterone and got a blood test for it.

Checked the GNC site, and don't see it being sold by itself anymore.

This is interesting about free testosterone, my free was 39 range 50-210

My son's was 79.4 range 50-210

Our total testosterone was about the same, but he did not have as severe

symptoms as

me.

Wonder what it feels like to have a high free testosterone level?

Anyone out there with a number near 200 or so?

> >

> > There is a product being sold that is supposed to increase the free

> testosterone.

> >

> > It has these supplements:

> >

> > Avena Sativa (with at least 7% Avenacosides A & B) 500 mgs

> > Muara Puama: 12:1 active extract 500mgs

> > Trimethyglycine 1000mgs

> > Xanthoparmilia Scabrosa: 50mgs

> > Urtica dioica: 100 mgs

> > Ashwagandha: Standardized to 1.5%Withanolides 500 mgs

> >

> > One of the best ways to determine a healthy " Free Testosterone "

> level is through " non-

> > stimulative erectile function. " What that means in plain English is

> this: When you wake up

> > from a night's sleep, even though there's been no sexual

> stimulation, you should have an

> > erection (which is always the case when you're 17 years old and

> hormones are raging). If

> > you don't, then there's a good chance your Free Testosterone is low.

> >

> > Anyone have any info on these supplements?

> >

> > I have used Avena Sativa and did notice that it helped, this was

> before TRT.

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