Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 , My levels on the T shots have not gone up that much. I haven't been tested for 1 month, but on 200mg my level was 207 on day 13. Then we added HCG and went to 300mg. I know intuitively the last shot did almost nothing for me. Maybe its because I am not injecting deep enough - 1 inch for half the shot and at 3/4 " inch for the second half. Also, I give blood every week for 12 straight weeks to treat another problem. Maybe the blood loss is affecting the T shots? Best, In a message dated 5/17/2004 11:01:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pohare@... writes: 300mg every 12 days? Why not 150 every 7 days? 300mg will for sure run you up into the very high end of the range. More will convert to E. Have you had your T/E tested while on 300mg? On top of that 500iu 3x's a week of HCG may be all you need, even without the 300mg of T-cyp if your boys are working. Saw Palmetto is used to stop frequent urination, maybe stop that for some time to see if things improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 , What kind of treatment does your wife take for her thyroid? I will try leaving the shot at 1.5 " . I was told to put it in the muscle and then squeeze some out and then pull back a tad and squeeze out the rest. The technique being designed to prevent knotting. Yes, I give blood for iron overload. My b-12 is very high at around 800. It's my other blood values like serum iron and red blood cells that are at near anemia levels. I give blood to lower my ferritin which I gues is a protein transporter. I don't have typical iron overload. Also, I guess if 207 is normal for day 13, then that's not very good. Have you taken shots before? are you still on them? In a message dated 5/17/2004 1:38:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pohare@... writes: On day 13, 207 looks right. It's the 48-60 hour window after a shot that is important to check. That is when the the T hits it's peak, then it's a drop off from there. You might be at 1000 2-3 days after a 200mg injection. That is were the T-E conversion is at it's highest. If you are doing your glutes, 1.5 inch is better, unless you have no fat back there. I don't understand the 1 inch half and 3/4 inch half. My understanding is to not move the needle at all during an injection as you might pull up into a vein that you might have passed through, and if you move how can you aspirate a second time. Giving the blood every week.... wow, hard to imagine that... i think i would not feel good if i had to give that much blood. Sounds like you need to inject after each blood draw. You may be dealing with something other then just low T. You do this for the iron, so i guess they keep a close watch on those levels. Only other items might be B12 or B-complex, electrolytes, thyroid. My wife has in two days said she can't remember feeling as well as she is from just increasing her T3/T4 dose. Her TSH was 3.5 which is in the ..05% population range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hi, - I don't know of a direct link between your supplements and your symptoms. Others here might know. If you've been on them for a while, I would suspect they are unrelated. If I experienced your symptoms I would definitely try to rule out other causes before changing or discontinuing HCG/TRT. There are several potential causes of your symptoms. SWAG: Relatively sudden onset suggests infection. Gallstones are a possibility, but I think you would experience pain. I'm no doctor. Because symptoms seem to be increasing, I suggest seeing a doctor sooner rather than later. Best, Bruce > I am currently taking HCG 500iu 3X week, and testosterone cypionate 300mg > every 12 days. In the past few days I have really noticed problems urinating. I > have never had a " race horse " stream, but now it feels that my urethra and what > not is very narrow. Earlier today, I was going and then all of a sudden there > was some pressure inside and I basically wasn't able to finish. I am not > having to urinate anymore than was normal before, which by the way was quite a bit > more frequent than is typical. > > Any insights would be appreciated. Also, I already take Saw Palmetto. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 300mg every 12 days? Why not 150 every 7 days? 300mg will for sure run you up into the very high end of the range. More will convert to E. Have you had your T/E tested while on 300mg? On top of that 500iu 3x's a week of HCG may be all you need, even without the 300mg of T-cyp if your boys are working. Saw Palmetto is used to stop frequent urination, maybe stop that for some time to see if things improve. > I am currently taking HCG 500iu 3X week, and testosterone cypionate 300mg > every 12 days. In the past few days I have really noticed problems urinating. I > have never had a " race horse " stream, but now it feels that my urethra and what > not is very narrow. Earlier today, I was going and then all of a sudden there > was some pressure inside and I basically wasn't able to finish. I am not > having to urinate anymore than was normal before, which by the way was quite a bit > more frequent than is typical. > > Any insights would be appreciated. Also, I already take Saw Palmetto. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 I would say get screened for prostate cancer just to be safe (PSA, exam, etc) Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 That's right. PSA & digital rectal exam once a year for men over 45, perhaps younger. That's how my prostate cancer was found. Finding it early is essential. The most common symptom of prostate cancer is no symptom at all. Bruce > I would say get screened for prostate cancer just to be safe (PSA, > exam, etc) > > Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 I will look into the RBC drug. How much difference does the cream make? As for the thyroid drug, do you have any idea how low a person must be to really benefit. My iron overload has caused a bunch of problems. My hypo is secondary. For thyroid my TSH was only 1.3 from a range of .5 - 4.7. Any idea if that is a low level? T4 was 7.1 from range of 4.5 - 12. Thanks, In a message dated 5/17/2004 3:13:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pohare@... writes: She is now at 1 grain Armour Thyroid and 2x T4 100mcg. She will increase it every 3 days to see how it goes. If she gets any symptoms of too much she will go back down to the last dosage level. I did 100mg every 7 days, 150mg every 7 days, and am now at 100mg every 5 days. This is in the thigh with a 25 guage 1 inch. At .5 cc, don't think you will get a knot. At 150mg 48 hours later the peak blood level was at around 500 (range 260-1000) So i know that by day 6 it is back to 200 or less. I do use a 20% cream on the third and forth days. There are some steroids that boost RBC more then Test, and i think a drug called EPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 On day 13, 207 looks right. It's the 48-60 hour window after a shot that is important to check. That is when the the T hits it's peak, then it's a drop off from there. You might be at 1000 2-3 days after a 200mg injection. That is were the T-E conversion is at it's highest. If you are doing your glutes, 1.5 inch is better, unless you have no fat back there. I don't understand the 1 inch half and 3/4 inch half. My understanding is to not move the needle at all during an injection as you might pull up into a vein that you might have passed through, and if you move how can you aspirate a second time. Giving the blood every week.... wow, hard to imagine that... i think i would not feel good if i had to give that much blood. Sounds like you need to inject after each blood draw. You may be dealing with something other then just low T. You do this for the iron, so i guess they keep a close watch on those levels. Only other items might be B12 or B-complex, electrolytes, thyroid. My wife has in two days said she can't remember feeling as well as she is from just increasing her T3/T4 dose. Her TSH was 3.5 which is in the ..05% population range. > , > > My levels on the T shots have not gone up that much. I haven't been tested > for 1 month, but on 200mg my level was 207 on day 13. Then we added HCG and went > to 300mg. I know intuitively the last shot did almost nothing for me. Maybe > its because I am not injecting deep enough - 1 inch for half the shot and at > 3/4 " inch for the second half. Also, I give blood every week for 12 straight > weeks to treat another problem. Maybe the blood loss is affecting the T shots? > > Best, > > > > > In a message dated 5/17/2004 11:01:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > pohare@p... writes: > 300mg every 12 days? Why not 150 every 7 days? 300mg will for sure run > you up into the very high end of the range. More will convert to E. Have you > had your T/E tested while on 300mg? On top of that 500iu 3x's a week of HCG > may be all you need, even without the 300mg of T-cyp if your boys are > working. Saw Palmetto is used to stop frequent urination, maybe stop > that for some time to see if things improve. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 She is now at 1 grain Armour Thyroid and 2x T4 100mcg. She will increase it every 3 days to see how it goes. If she gets any symptoms of too much she will go back down to the last dosage level. I did 100mg every 7 days, 150mg every 7 days, and am now at 100mg every 5 days. This is in the thigh with a 25 guage 1 inch. At .5 cc, don't think you will get a knot. At 150mg 48 hours later the peak blood level was at around 500 (range 260-1000) So i know that by day 6 it is back to 200 or less. I do use a 20% cream on the third and forth days. There are some steroids that boost RBC more then Test, and i think a drug called EPO. > , > > What kind of treatment does your wife take for her thyroid? > > I will try leaving the shot at 1.5 " . I was told to put it in the muscle and > then squeeze some out and then pull back a tad and squeeze out the rest. The > technique being designed to prevent knotting. > > Yes, I give blood for iron overload. My b-12 is very high at around 800. It's > my other blood values like serum iron and red blood cells that are at near > anemia levels. I give blood to lower my ferritin which I gues is a protein > transporter. I don't have typical iron overload. > > Also, I guess if 207 is normal for day 13, then that's not very good. Have > you taken shots before? are you still on them? > > > > > > In a message dated 5/17/2004 1:38:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pohare@p... writes: > On day 13, 207 looks right. It's the 48-60 hour window after a shot that is > important to check. That is when the the T hits it's peak, then it's a drop > off from there. You might be at 1000 2-3 days after a 200mg injection. That > is were the T-E conversion is at it's highest. If you are doing your glutes, > 1.5 inch is better, unless you have no fat back there. I don't understand the > 1 inch half and 3/4 inch half. My understanding is to not move the needle > at all during an injection as you might pull up into a vein that you might > have > passed through, and if you move how can you aspirate a second time. > > Giving the blood every week.... wow, hard to imagine that... i think i would > not feel good if i had to give that much blood. Sounds like you need to inject > after each blood draw. You may be dealing with something other then just > low T. You do this for the iron, so i guess they keep a close watch on those > levels. Only other items might be B12 or B-complex, electrolytes, thyroid. > > My wife has in two days said she can't remember feeling as well as she is > from just increasing her T3/T4 dose. Her TSH was 3.5 which is in the > .05% population range. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 , The graph at: http://www.thyroid.org.au/Information/NormalTSH.html suggests TSH of 1.3 is very good. The curve is weighted toward the lower end of the range. That's for women, but I think it says it's about the same for men. (Thanks, whoever posted that site.) Bruce For thyroid my TSH was only 1.3 from a range of .5 - 4.7. Any idea if that is a low level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Thanks a bunch. In a message dated 5/17/2004 4:52:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bruceharvey@... writes: , The graph at: http://www.thyroid.org.au/Information/NormalTSH.html suggests TSH of 1.3 is very good. The curve is weighted toward the lower end of the range. That's for women, but I think it says it's about the same for men. (Thanks, whoever posted that site.) Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Is there anything special to ask for when I ask my Dr. for cream? I think I might. In a message dated 5/17/2004 7:57:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pohare@... writes: TSH looks real good, 1.2 is supposed to be the best. T4 looks good. The cream is just used as i feel i need it, it gets in the system fast and is out fast, in 6 or so hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 The rules of thumb in the Thyroid group I follow are TSH at 1.0, Free T4 and Free T3 above mid-range in the scale. Free T3 testing is important, many with fine T4 levels supposedly don't convert to T3 (the active hormone) well. Re: Re: Problems urinating I will look into the RBC drug. How much difference does the cream make? As for the thyroid drug, do you have any idea how low a person must be to really benefit. My iron overload has caused a bunch of problems. My hypo is secondary. For thyroid my TSH was only 1.3 from a range of .5 - 4.7. Any idea if that is a low level? T4 was 7.1 from range of 4.5 - 12. Thanks, In a message dated 5/17/2004 3:13:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pohare@... writes: She is now at 1 grain Armour Thyroid and 2x T4 100mcg. She will increase it every 3 days to see how it goes. If she gets any symptoms of too much she will go back down to the last dosage level. I did 100mg every 7 days, 150mg every 7 days, and am now at 100mg every 5 days. This is in the thigh with a 25 guage 1 inch. At .5 cc, don't think you will get a knot. At 150mg 48 hours later the peak blood level was at around 500 (range 260-1000) So i know that by day 6 it is back to 200 or less. I do use a 20% cream on the third and forth days. There are some steroids that boost RBC more then Test, and i think a drug called EPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 TSH looks real good, 1.2 is supposed to be the best. T4 looks good. The cream is just used as i feel i need it, it gets in the system fast and is out fast, in 6 or so hours. > I will look into the RBC drug. > > How much difference does the cream make? > > As for the thyroid drug, do you have any idea how low a person must be to > really benefit. My iron overload has caused a bunch of problems. My hypo is > secondary. For thyroid my TSH was only 1.3 from a range of .5 - 4.7. Any idea if > that is a low level? T4 was 7.1 from range of 4.5 - 12. > > Thanks, > > > > > In a message dated 5/17/2004 3:13:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pohare@p... writes: > She is now at 1 grain Armour Thyroid and 2x T4 100mcg. She will increase > it every 3 days to see how it goes. If she gets any symptoms of too much > she will go back down to the last dosage level. > > I did 100mg every 7 days, 150mg every 7 days, and am now at 100mg every 5 > days. > This is in the thigh with a 25 guage 1 inch. At .5 cc, don't think you will > get a knot. > At 150mg 48 hours later the peak blood level was at around 500 (range > 260-1000) > So i know that by day 6 it is back to 200 or less. I do use a 20% cream on the > third and forth days. > > There are some steroids that boost RBC more then Test, and i think a drug > called EPO. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 It's from Signature Compund pharmacy Testosteron 20% (200mg/ml) PLO It's in a big 60ml syringe, no needle. Push out a pea size and rub in the inner thigh, i add some water so it spreads better. Should last me 4 months as i don't use it each day. Think it was $150 bucks > > Is there anything special to ask for when I ask my Dr. for cream? I think I > might. > > > > > > In a message dated 5/17/2004 7:57:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pohare@p... writes: > TSH looks real good, 1.2 is supposed to be the best. T4 looks good. > The cream is just used as i feel i need it, it gets in the system fast > and is out fast, in 6 or so hours. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Thanks I will ask the Dr. In a message dated 5/17/2004 10:46:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dave@... writes: The rules of thumb in the Thyroid group I follow are TSH at 1.0, Free T4 and Free T3 above mid-range in the scale. Free T3 testing is important, many with fine T4 levels supposedly don't convert to T3 (the active hormone) well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 It is your Estradiol what are you taking to get this down. I would use Arimidex doing .5 mgs every other day and follow this cut and paste from a file I made so you don't go to low. Getting my E2 levels down my BPH problems went away. ==================================================== How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. Co-Moderator Phil > From: <j.pryor@...> > Subject: problems urinating > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 3:26 PM > I am being told that because I'm > doing TRT-T Cyp, that it is causing my prostate to swell and > making it difficult to urinate. Is this common? If so, what > are you taking? I have been given Uroxatral which can cause > fatigue and Advodart which can cause sexual side effects, > and an in drug ejaculation disorder, what ever that is. > > I am having sexual side effect including ED, fatigue and my > ejaculation doesnt feel normal, but these can be caused from > being on TRT and having high Estradiol, which my is (81) and > I'm working on getting that down. > > Should I continue to take these meds or should I hold off > until my Estradiol is down in the 20's to figure out which > is cause my problems? > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Lab results Testosterone, total 780 range 241-827 estradiol 48 range 13-54 psa 0.6 range < or = 4.0 FSH <0.7 range 1.5-8.0 LH <0.2 range 1.5-9.3 Have asked to start Arimdex, and waiting for a call back. problems urinating > <mailto: %40> > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 3:26 PM > I am being told that because I'm > doing TRT-T Cyp, that it is causing my prostate to swell and > making it difficult to urinate. Is this common? If so, what > are you taking? I have been given Uroxatral which can cause > fatigue and Advodart which can cause sexual side effects, > and an in drug ejaculation disorder, what ever that is. > > I am having sexual side effect including ED, fatigue and my > ejaculation doesnt feel normal, but these can be caused from > being on TRT and having high Estradiol, which my is (81) and > I'm working on getting that down. > > Should I continue to take these meds or should I hold off > until my Estradiol is down in the 20's to figure out which > is cause my problems? > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 High Estradiol levels gave me this problem for yrs and I did not know it. I was told I have BPH but getting my estradiol levels down my prostate went down. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: < j.pryor@...<mailto:j.pryor%40americantilesupply.com>> > > Subject: problems urinating > > <mailto: %40> > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 3:26 PM > > I am being told that because I'm > > doing TRT-T Cyp, that it is causing my prostate to > swell and > > making it difficult to urinate. Is this common? If so, > what > > are you taking? I have been given Uroxatral which can > cause > > fatigue and Advodart which can cause sexual side > effects, > > and an in drug ejaculation disorder, what ever that > is. > > > > I am having sexual side effect including ED, fatigue > and my > > ejaculation doesnt feel normal, but these can be > caused from > > being on TRT and having high Estradiol, which my is > (81) and > > I'm working on getting that down. > > > > Should I continue to take these meds or should I hold > off > > until my Estradiol is down in the 20's to figure out > which > > is cause my problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I had prostate problems pre TRT for years and was told that it was due to a variety of reasons. However, the real culprit ended up being high estrogen levels. The prostate gets irritated and swollen/inflamed when it is exposed to excess levesl of estrogen. Most doctors do not know enough about the testosterone/estrogen balance in the male body to even check for high estrogen levels when a man comes in for prostate problems. The usual suspects are infection and DHT, and when estrogen is the real culprit, the drugs used for these two most often assumed causes for prostitis (infection and DHT) do nothing but take money from your pocket and put it in the pocket of the drug companies and have you coming back to the doctor for more unproductive health care visits. Because of the concerns about prostate health that arise once you start TRT, I have been taking a prostate health suppliment for years. The one I am currently taking is made by Life Extension. Walmart has one that i take from time to time when saving money is an issue. I also take Life Extension's Super Mia Forte as recomended by my GP, and it is reported to not only help the body get rid of excess estrogen but also curb excess DHT. Any of the AI's will probably help your situation if estrogen is irritating your prostate, and my prostate problems improved a great deal once I got my E2 levels down under 30. However, as others have pointed out, be careful with arimidex and other AI's becuase if you push your Estrogen levels down too low, you will have ED problems as well. The T/E balance or ratio is key to good TRT and if your doc is not monitoring your E levels with the sensitive test that measures 30-0, you should get a different doctor. Estrogen management/control is absolulely vital to getting the promised benefits of TRT, and if your doctor tells you otherwise, fire him or her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Your on the money about this I had one bladder infection after the other. Due to BPH even had surgery that lasted a yr. All it was for me was high Estradiol levels. Once I got them down I felt better and my prostate went back down in size. Thanks for the great post sbyrant511. Co-Moderator Phil > From: sbryant511 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: problems urinating > > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 6:09 PM > > I had prostate problems pre TRT for years and was told that > it was due > to a variety of reasons. However, the real culprit > ended up being high > estrogen levels. The prostate gets irritated and > swollen/inflamed when > it is exposed to excess levesl of estrogen. Most > doctors do not know > enough about the testosterone/estrogen balance in the male > body to even > check for high estrogen levels when a man comes in for > prostate > problems. The usual suspects are infection and DHT, > and when estrogen > is the real culprit, the drugs used for these two most > often assumed > causes for prostitis (infection and DHT) do nothing but > take money from > your pocket and put it in the pocket of the drug companies > and have you > coming back to the doctor for more unproductive health care > visits. > > Because of the concerns about prostate health that arise > once you start > TRT, I have been taking a prostate health suppliment for > years. The one > I am currently taking is made by Life Extension. > Walmart has one that i > take from time to time when saving money is an issue. > I also take Life > Extension's Super Mia Forte as recomended by my GP, and it > is reported > to not only help the body get rid of excess estrogen but > also curb > excess DHT. > > Any of the AI's will probably help your situation if > estrogen is > irritating your prostate, and my prostate problems improved > a great deal > once I got my E2 levels down under 30. However, as > others have pointed > out, be careful with arimidex and other AI's becuase if you > push your > Estrogen levels down too low, you will have ED problems as > well. > > The T/E balance or ratio is key to good TRT and if your doc > is not > monitoring your E levels with the sensitive test that > measures 30-0, you > should get a different doctor. Estrogen > management/control is > absolulely vital to getting the promised benefits of TRT, > and if your > doctor tells you otherwise, fire him or her. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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