Re: More on T injection problems

[Guest guest]

heh o man... 18 gauge??????

That is like a hose....

Get some 23 or even 25 gauge.

The 18 is for pulling the test from the vial.

Switch to a 21,23,25 gauge for injection.

Cheers

> What size needle should be used? We are using an 18 gauge needle. It

> seems huge. I am wondering if it has caused the pain to my backside.

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[Guest guest]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:05:25 -0000, you wrote:

>What size needle should be used? We are using an 18 gauge needle. It

>seems huge. I am wondering if it has caused the pain to my backside.

OUCH!

Yes. The manufacturer recommends a 21 or 22. But the cypionate is

immersed in sesame seed oil (or some other oil) which is extremely

thick. (This is to help the time release.) WHat I've read suggests

drawing from the vial with an 18 and injecting with a 21. The thinner

needles are too hard to draw with but to large to inject with - as you

found out.

The shots are highly variable. Target area, muscle tension, what's

hit, shoot I'd almost say weather, affects it. Some days its a pin

prick and other days I fell like I got shot and can barely walk.

Personally I had to stop getting them in the rump and moved to the

thigh. My butt would not up for days. And oddly with shots every two

weeks, a shot in the other cheek would cause the last site to knot up

again.

One of the nurses who was best at it for me, would pinch and hold the

site and inject into the pinched skin. Some how the pressure of the

pinch masked some of the needle issues.

[Guest guest]

Agreed! 18 guage = Ouch!

I use 23 guage to pull out the liquid and to inject. Not too bad.

> > What size needle should be used? We are using an 18 gauge

needle. It

> > seems huge. I am wondering if it has caused the pain to my

backside.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Retrogrouch,

I injected from 1999 - 2001. PCP's nurse taught me to withdraw with an 18 G

Needle and then put on a 21 G for injection.

Somewhere along the way, I think it was pharmacist that suggested, you could

actually withdraw, inject with 21 or 23 G I've forgotten which. I tried

that and it worked well for me.

OR eon

GayMan

Re: More on T injection problems

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:05:25 -0000, you wrote:

>What size needle should be used? We are using an 18 gauge needle. It

>seems huge. I am wondering if it has caused the pain to my backside.

OUCH!

Yes. The manufacturer recommends a 21 or 22. But the cypionate is

immersed in sesame seed oil (or some other oil) which is extremely

thick. (This is to help the time release.) WHat I've read suggests

drawing from the vial with an 18 and injecting with a 21. The thinner

needles are too hard to draw with but to large to inject with - as you

found out.

The shots are highly variable. Target area, muscle tension, what's

hit, shoot I'd almost say weather, affects it. Some days its a pin

prick and other days I fell like I got shot and can barely walk.

Personally I had to stop getting them in the rump and moved to the

thigh. My butt would not up for days. And oddly with shots every two

weeks, a shot in the other cheek would cause the last site to knot up

again.

One of the nurses who was best at it for me, would pinch and hold the

site and inject into the pinched skin. Some how the pressure of the

pinch masked some of the needle issues.

[Guest guest]

Yes, 23 guage does work nicely. It actually takes a while to get the

1 or 2 cc's into the needle from the bottle, you have to kind of

pump the withdraw part, but it does work nicely and no need to worry

about changing needles etc.

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> needle. It

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