Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Hi Bob, You can find a good doc. Here are tips: There are two steps to finding a good doctor who treats hypogonadism: Making a list of possible doctors near you, and then pre-qualifying the one you want. 1. Finding possible docs near you (note: A doc being on someone's list doesn't mean he/she's qualified.) Contact a compounding pharmacy. They can probably tell you the name of a good doc. Ask for one that orders testosterone and hCG. Look under Compounding Pharmacy, in the Files section here, or do a web search. One is Collage Pharmacy in Colorado, (800) 888-9358 or (719) 262-0022, or go online: http://www.collegepharmacy.com/ and click " Find a Health Care Provider " . There's a form to fill out. Submit the form & they'll e-mail a list of docs nearest you. Other online pharmacies that might know: Strohecker's Pharmacy, 2855-A S.W. Patton Road, Portland OR, 97201 Tel: (503) 222-4822 Fax: (503) 222-4868 www.stroheckersrx.com Kronos Compounding Pharmacy, 3675 S. Rainbow Blvd. #103, Las Vegas, NV 89103-1059 Toll-Free 1-800-723-7455 http://www.kronospharmacy.com/ B. Go to: http://www.tuneupyourt.com/ and click on the Find a Doctor menu. These aren't guaranteed to be competent, but they've shown an interest in TRT. C. There's a Physician Reference table in the Database section on this board, with names people here have recommended. (If you find a good hormone doc, post his/her name there.) 2. Pre-qualifying and selecting the right doc A. Call the doc or his staff and ask: i. How many men he/she treats, if he/she uses hCG, Arimidex to keep E2 down and checks for Primary or Secondary Hypogonadism. ii. If they can't or won't answer satisfactorily, move on & call the next doc. ---- What to do about the Androderm? If it was me, I'd discontinue it, but I don't like to advise people to start of stop a medication. Another week on it won't hurt, although it might delay tests a little longer. Why don't you find a doc, & ask him/her or the staff what you should do? DIM is a supplement, basically a concentrated dose of the good stuff in cruciferous vegetables. It helps the liver metabolize estrogens. You don't need to know too much about it yet. Primary hypogonadism means testicles cannot make T. This limits therapy to TRT. Secondary hypogonadism means testicles can make T, but aren't making enough of it. Treatment can be either TRT or a therapy that stimulates testicles to make T. Stimulation therapy is preferred when preserving fertility is important. Best, Bruce > > Any doctors knowledeable in Hypogonadism in San Francisco Bay Area (live in east bay, work in silicon valley...found my current " internal medicine " doc at camino medical group...near work) > > What is DIM? > > What is primary vs secondary hg? > Thanks > bob -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hi Bob, I don't have personal experience with stimulation therapy. What I know is gathered from others here. In a nutshell, stimulation therapy involves using a hormone or medication that sends a message to the testicles to make more testosterone. The most common is hCG therapy (human chorionic gonadotropin), injected under the skin with a fine needle. I understand an oral medication called clomiphene (aka Clomid) also works; I don't know anyone who uses it. Another is GnRH therapy (Gonadotropin-Releasing Hormone). There's some detailed info. in the AACE Hypogonadism Guidelines, under " Dynamic Tests " and " Gonadal Stimulation in Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism " . (Hypogonadotropic means secondary) BTW, did you see my message #20763 about SF docs? Best Bruce > > Thanks for the detailed reply Bruce. I'm guessing its secondary since the doc said my pituarary was ok and my testicles had just gotten a little lazy. Tell me more about the stimulation therapy, is this chemical, physical ? > thanks bob -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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