Re: Dentists in New York?

[Guest guest]

Janice,

I forgot to mention in my last reply, that I got a zapper on ebay for only

$49.50! If things don't go well with making them- that's always an

alternative!

Tara

Hi, Janice here. I'm on day 3 of parasite program (breast cancer), am

looking for where to have my dentist purchase the ZOE dental filling

material (have 14 metal and 4 plastic fillings), or for a dentist in

upstate NY (ALBANY, SYRACUSE area) that will fill. Has there been any

new developments in replacement fillings besides the temporary ZOE

fillings? Also, any breast cancer patients out there who have cured

their bc? I just found out a month ago about the malignancy (early

stages) and have changed my diet drastically, still need to make

lugol's iodine, have stopped all chemicals (make-up, nailpolish,

metal jewlry, soaps, etc...), working on making zapper. I'm not able

financially to rid copper pipes, am using charcoal filter for now.

Thanks for listening. Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi Karyn,

Thanks so much for the info and your story. I will read the tooth truth book,

I'm glad that it is a possibility to have it done properly. I do know about

progesterone cream. In May I found out that I have uterine fibroids and found

Dr. Lee's book online. It was a coincidence that my sister in law was just

starting an Arbonne buisness that she wanted me to also sell for (Arbonne is

one of the places Dr. Lee recommends to purchase the cream- she got rid of all

of her breast cysts with progesterone cream). I purchased the cream from her

but have not used it yet. I have since purchased all 3 of Dr. Lee's books.

Before I knew about the breast cancer I read Dr. Lees new breast cancer book

because my younger sister has 3rd stage bc and can no longer have chemo

treatments. When I found out that I had a possible malignancy (you can see the

calcium

deposits webed together on the mamogram) I first went to Massachuttes to have

the AMAS test and my malignan levels were elevated, indicating a malignancy

also. I actually haven't had the biopsy yet, I go on the 26th for a stereotactic

biopsy. I also have an appointment in New Jersey with a doctor that was a

breast surgeon and uses the AMAS testing and progesterone cream as well as does

other alternative therapies. I have an appointement with him on Nov. 2nd. I

can't wait to use the progesterone cream. The reason I didn't use it yet is

because the doctor said they need to find out if I am estrogen or progesterone

positive (dominant). I scheduled the biopsy for during the leutal phase of my

menstruation.

I have totally changed my diet, am taking suppliments (I haven't been able to

financially purchase them from Dr. yet but hope to), and I feel a lot

better as I am not drinking alcohol, eating dairy or meat, etc. My biggest

hurdles are living with my freon fridge, getting someone to take out the

fiberglass (whole cellar has exposed fiberglass), copper pipes, and teeth. But

I'm

confident that with time I can beat this. I will most probably opt for

lumpectomy

and radiation (if that is what is recommended) as well as getting rid of the

fluke, etc. I have been on the parasite program for 4 days.

You are right about friends and family. I live with my mother and my 16 year

old son who do not want to do the parasite program. I suppose if I was dying

they'd change their minds. My boyfriend has two cats and a dog, drinks milk and

eats meat. He is not enthused that I wont kiss him, etc... since I have

started the parasite program. I'm not sure what to do about them, I guess I have

to

do the best that I can.

It is great to know that someone out there has been through this and is

beating it. I'm so glad for you. I guess I'm going through the anger stage. My

doctor thinks I'm absolutely nuts talking about parasites and progesterone

cream.

The surgeon referred me to a second opinion and he was nice about it but also

stated that he would not recommend the cream (of course! - I didn't expect

them to go along, but I am angry that they choose not to listen and allow 40,000

women to die each year like it's just accepted as the way it is). I could go

on. Anyway, thank you so much for responding and I will look into the tooth

truth thing. It may take me years to replace my fillings but it will be worth

it.

Again, thanks, Janice.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janice,

I was diagnosed with breast cancer about a year ago. I did have surgery however

only because I was originally told that the tumor was very small and was

lobular, (in the milk duct), apparently the " best " kind. I thought it was going

to be an easy procedure so I decided to just have it out. However there turned

out to be 3 locations with cancerous cells. My lymph nodes also tested

positive.

I immediately started on dr clark's 21-day program (you can find this in the

Cure for Advanced Cancers). I moved out of my apartment and stayed with my

sister for the duration. She was already a dr. clark devotee so her house was

very clean and we both ate really healthy food the whole time.

I had already had my fillings replaced two years before. Although I live on the

east coast I decided to travel to Indianapolis and go to Dr. Jerome, who

is a colleague of Dr. 's and wrote the book Tooth Truth. I wanted to make

sure that the work was done properly. Even with hotel and travel costs it still

probably cost me less than it would have elsewhere.

I had several follow-up tests since then. all of which were negative. I had a

complete bone scan and organ scan in January right after my treatment, and I had

a sonogram in June. I am continuing to be as careful with what I eat and drink

as possible and I still take some of the supplements that I took for the

treatment, although not in such high doses, such as Black Walnut, B12, and of

course Vitamin C. I've started taking brewer's yeast which is high in the b

vitamins.

A few other things I started taking after the treatment was complete:

One other thing that I did start taking which is not mentioned in dr. clark's

books (at least the edition that I had, which is not the latest) is

progesterone. This hormone is sadly lacking in the american diet and is crucial

for female health. Many women today have too much estrogen and not enough

progesterone in their systems. Many female cancers

are estrogen dominant. The best way to get progesterone now is from a cream.

There are several good ones on the market including the ones from Nature's

Sunshine, NOW Foods and Syringa. Read all of the literature on it first, there

is an adjustment period.

I joined this group just as I was starting my treatment and it was great to have

support from other people that had gone thru the same treatment and with great

results. Not all of your friends and family are going to understand you

choosing this method, which can make it harder. I was lucky that most of mine

were pretty understanding, but it was still nice to have validation from others

that had gone thru it.

Best of luck to you,

Karyn

jed091657 <jedidonna@...> wrote:

Hi, Janice here. I'm on day 3 of parasite program (breast cancer), am

looking for where to have my dentist purchase the ZOE dental filling

material (have 14 metal and 4 plastic fillings), or for a dentist in

upstate NY (ALBANY, SYRACUSE area) that will fill. Has there been any

new developments in replacement fillings besides the temporary ZOE

fillings? Also, any breast cancer patients out there who have cured

their bc? I just found out a month ago about the malignancy (early

stages) and have changed my diet drastically, still need to make

lugol's iodine, have stopped all chemicals (make-up, nailpolish,

metal jewlry, soaps, etc...), working on making zapper. I'm not able

financially to rid copper pipes, am using charcoal filter for now.

Thanks for listening. Janice

[Guest guest]

PS - Regarding your charcoal filter - I used to use the brita filters but then

was told that was possibly the source of the nickel in my body. So I switched

to one that my sister got at www.shrc.net. You can buy the filter and pitcher

which fit together.

You can also buy lugol's on the site. If you decide to do the 21-day program,

you can buy almost everything you need in one package from www.store.com.

Just click on 21-day program.

Karyn

jed091657 <jedidonna@...> wrote:

Hi, Janice here. I'm on day 3 of parasite program (breast cancer), am

looking for where to have my dentist purchase the ZOE dental filling

material (have 14 metal and 4 plastic fillings), or for a dentist in

upstate NY (ALBANY, SYRACUSE area) that will fill. Has there been any

new developments in replacement fillings besides the temporary ZOE

fillings? Also, any breast cancer patients out there who have cured

their bc? I just found out a month ago about the malignancy (early

stages) and have changed my diet drastically, still need to make

lugol's iodine, have stopped all chemicals (make-up, nailpolish,

metal jewlry, soaps, etc...), working on making zapper. I'm not able

financially to rid copper pipes, am using charcoal filter for now.

Thanks for listening. Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janice, I share your anger! When I went back to my surgeon for my post-op

visit he told me it was ok to use deodorant! I had an open scar both on my

breast and under my arm where they took out the lymph nodes for testing. I am

sure most women would simply begin re-applying their regular deodorant without

giving it a second thought because the doctor said it was OK. I began using

cornstarch and baking soda and still continue to use them. My surgeon also

pretty much washed his hands of me, although nicely, after I told him I would

not be seeing an oncologist.

I have to say despite their concerns my family and my boyfriend were all great.

I understand your concern about getting parasites from your family but I think

the occasional kiss is OK and actually required - you need a lot of affection

when you are going thru this. So get as many hugs as possible. The

refrigerator, pipes, etc., and the pets would be my bigger concern. Like you I

also had a very old refrigerator which I am sure was leaking freon - one of the

reasons I wound up moving permanently.

Is it possible for you to stay somewhere else while you go thru this? No place

is 100% clean but at least you can get away from the toxins that have already

built up in your system. Also, have you considered getting an ionic breeze? I

got one after I moved and they really suck up a lot of junk.

You should consider taking the progesterone cream asap, rather than waiting. My

sister, who is much more educated in all this than I am, had mentioned to me

that if the hormone test results are not always accurate, something about the

excess estrogen masking the lack of progesterone. I can't remember the

specifics so you should look into that yourself. Also, if you have a couple of

weeks before your biopsy it might be worth it to do whatever you can and then

take another mammogram or sonogram instead to see if there is any change. I

have heard from several sources, including my own doctor who is not anti-natural

healing, that biopsies can actually spread the cancer. If you do have one make

sure they do NOT use rubbing alcohol to do it.

Karyn

PS - I hope that your sister gets better. Is there any chance she will try some

of the things that you are doing?

jedidonna@... wrote:

Hi Karyn,

Thanks so much for the info and your story. I will read the tooth truth book,

I'm glad that it is a possibility to have it done properly. I do know about

progesterone cream. In May I found out that I have uterine fibroids and found

Dr. Lee's book online. It was a coincidence that my sister in law was just

starting an Arbonne buisness that she wanted me to also sell for (Arbonne is

one of the places Dr. Lee recommends to purchase the cream- she got rid of all

of her breast cysts with progesterone cream). I purchased the cream from her

but have not used it yet. I have since purchased all 3 of Dr. Lee's books.

Before I knew about the breast cancer I read Dr. Lees new breast cancer book

because my younger sister has 3rd stage bc and can no longer have chemo

treatments. When I found out that I had a possible malignancy (you can see the

calcium

deposits webed together on the mamogram) I first went to Massachuttes to have

the AMAS test and my malignan levels were elevated, indicating a malignancy

also. I actually haven't had the biopsy yet, I go on the 26th for a stereotactic

biopsy. I also have an appointment in New Jersey with a doctor that was a

breast surgeon and uses the AMAS testing and progesterone cream as well as does

other alternative therapies. I have an appointement with him on Nov. 2nd. I

can't wait to use the progesterone cream. The reason I didn't use it yet is

because the doctor said they need to find out if I am estrogen or progesterone

positive (dominant). I scheduled the biopsy for during the leutal phase of my

menstruation.

I have totally changed my diet, am taking suppliments (I haven't been able to

financially purchase them from Dr. yet but hope to), and I feel a lot

better as I am not drinking alcohol, eating dairy or meat, etc. My biggest

hurdles are living with my freon fridge, getting someone to take out the

fiberglass (whole cellar has exposed fiberglass), copper pipes, and teeth. But

I'm

confident that with time I can beat this. I will most probably opt for

lumpectomy

and radiation (if that is what is recommended) as well as getting rid of the

fluke, etc. I have been on the parasite program for 4 days.

You are right about friends and family. I live with my mother and my 16 year

old son who do not want to do the parasite program. I suppose if I was dying

they'd change their minds. My boyfriend has two cats and a dog, drinks milk and

eats meat. He is not enthused that I wont kiss him, etc... since I have

started the parasite program. I'm not sure what to do about them, I guess I have

to

do the best that I can.

It is great to know that someone out there has been through this and is

beating it. I'm so glad for you. I guess I'm going through the anger stage. My

doctor thinks I'm absolutely nuts talking about parasites and progesterone

cream.

The surgeon referred me to a second opinion and he was nice about it but also

stated that he would not recommend the cream (of course! - I didn't expect

them to go along, but I am angry that they choose not to listen and allow 40,000

women to die each year like it's just accepted as the way it is). I could go

on. Anyway, thank you so much for responding and I will look into the tooth

truth thing. It may take me years to replace my fillings but it will be worth

it.

Again, thanks, Janice.

[Guest guest]

Cornstarch and baking soda?? Tell us more, like in what proportions.

Do you make a paste and apply? How does it compare with straight

Magnesium Oxide powder?

Leo

----------------------------

> Hi Karyn,

>

> Thanks so much for the info and your story. I will read the tooth

truth book,

> I'm glad that it is a possibility to have it done properly. I do

know about

> progesterone cream. In May I found out that I have uterine fibroids

and found

> Dr. Lee's book online. It was a coincidence that my sister in

law was just

> starting an Arbonne buisness that she wanted me to also sell for

(Arbonne is

> one of the places Dr. Lee recommends to purchase the cream- she got

rid of all

> of her breast cysts with progesterone cream). I purchased the cream

from her

> but have not used it yet. I have since purchased all 3 of Dr. Lee's

books.

> Before I knew about the breast cancer I read Dr. Lees new breast

cancer book

> because my younger sister has 3rd stage bc and can no longer have

chemo

> treatments. When I found out that I had a possible malignancy (you

can see the calcium

> deposits webed together on the mamogram) I first went to

Massachuttes to have

> the AMAS test and my malignan levels were elevated, indicating a

malignancy

> also. I actually haven't had the biopsy yet, I go on the 26th for a

stereotactic

> biopsy. I also have an appointment in New Jersey with a doctor that

was a

> breast surgeon and uses the AMAS testing and progesterone cream as

well as does

> other alternative therapies. I have an appointement with him on Nov.

2nd. I

> can't wait to use the progesterone cream. The reason I didn't use it

yet is

> because the doctor said they need to find out if I am estrogen or

progesterone

> positive (dominant). I scheduled the biopsy for during the leutal

phase of my

> menstruation.

>

> I have totally changed my diet, am taking suppliments (I haven't

been able to

> financially purchase them from Dr. yet but hope to), and I

feel a lot

> better as I am not drinking alcohol, eating dairy or meat, etc. My

biggest

> hurdles are living with my freon fridge, getting someone to take out

the

> fiberglass (whole cellar has exposed fiberglass), copper pipes, and

teeth. But I'm

> confident that with time I can beat this. I will most probably opt

for lumpectomy

> and radiation (if that is what is recommended) as well as getting

rid of the

> fluke, etc. I have been on the parasite program for 4 days.

>

> You are right about friends and family. I live with my mother and my

16 year

> old son who do not want to do the parasite program. I suppose if I

was dying

> they'd change their minds. My boyfriend has two cats and a dog,

drinks milk and

> eats meat. He is not enthused that I wont kiss him, etc... since I

have

> started the parasite program. I'm not sure what to do about them, I

guess I have to

> do the best that I can.

>

> It is great to know that someone out there has been through this and

is

> beating it. I'm so glad for you. I guess I'm going through the anger

stage. My

> doctor thinks I'm absolutely nuts talking about parasites and

progesterone cream.

> The surgeon referred me to a second opinion and he was nice about it

but also

> stated that he would not recommend the cream (of course! - I didn't

expect

> them to go along, but I am angry that they choose not to listen and

allow 40,000

> women to die each year like it's just accepted as the way it is). I

could go

> on. Anyway, thank you so much for responding and I will look into

the tooth

> truth thing. It may take me years to replace my fillings but it will

be worth it.

> Again, thanks, Janice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't really measure it out - just do about half of each. I keep the dry

mixture in a small plastic container and I mix with a little water to apply.

I used to spray a little everclear with drops of black walnut tincture in it

first but all of my clothes were getting ruined. The powder on its own is better

although it also, surprisingly, can stain.

It doesn't last as long as regular deodorant but it does get me thru the day,

which is fine. Although sometimes it does seem to last longer; I have also

noticed that when I am eating badly it shows in a variety of ways!

I have never used magnesium oxide powder so I can't compare.

regehr2001 <leoelfie@...> wrote:

Cornstarch and baking soda?? Tell us more, like in what proportions.

Do you make a paste and apply? How does it compare with straight

Magnesium Oxide powder?

Leo

----------------------------

> Hi Karyn,

>

> Thanks so much for the info and your story. I will read the tooth

truth book,

> I'm glad that it is a possibility to have it done properly. I do

know about

> progesterone cream. In May I found out that I have uterine fibroids

and found

> Dr. Lee's book online. It was a coincidence that my sister in

law was just

> starting an Arbonne buisness that she wanted me to also sell for

(Arbonne is

> one of the places Dr. Lee recommends to purchase the cream- she got

rid of all

> of her breast cysts with progesterone cream). I purchased the cream

from her

> but have not used it yet. I have since purchased all 3 of Dr. Lee's

books.

> Before I knew about the breast cancer I read Dr. Lees new breast

cancer book

> because my younger sister has 3rd stage bc and can no longer have

chemo

> treatments. When I found out that I had a possible malignancy (you

can see the calcium

> deposits webed together on the mamogram) I first went to

Massachuttes to have

> the AMAS test and my malignan levels were elevated, indicating a

malignancy

> also. I actually haven't had the biopsy yet, I go on the 26th for a

stereotactic

> biopsy. I also have an appointment in New Jersey with a doctor that

was a

> breast surgeon and uses the AMAS testing and progesterone cream as

well as does

> other alternative therapies. I have an appointement with him on Nov.

2nd. I

> can't wait to use the progesterone cream. The reason I didn't use it

yet is

> because the doctor said they need to find out if I am estrogen or

progesterone

> positive (dominant). I scheduled the biopsy for during the leutal

phase of my

> menstruation.

>

> I have totally changed my diet, am taking suppliments (I haven't

been able to

> financially purchase them from Dr. yet but hope to), and I

feel a lot

> better as I am not drinking alcohol, eating dairy or meat, etc. My

biggest

> hurdles are living with my freon fridge, getting someone to take out

the

> fiberglass (whole cellar has exposed fiberglass), copper pipes, and

teeth. But I'm

> confident that with time I can beat this. I will most probably opt

for lumpectomy

> and radiation (if that is what is recommended) as well as getting

rid of the

> fluke, etc. I have been on the parasite program for 4 days.

>

> You are right about friends and family. I live with my mother and my

16 year

> old son who do not want to do the parasite program. I suppose if I

was dying

> they'd change their minds. My boyfriend has two cats and a dog,

drinks milk and

> eats meat. He is not enthused that I wont kiss him, etc... since I

have

> started the parasite program. I'm not sure what to do about them, I

guess I have to

> do the best that I can.

>

> It is great to know that someone out there has been through this and

is

> beating it. I'm so glad for you. I guess I'm going through the anger

stage. My

> doctor thinks I'm absolutely nuts talking about parasites and

progesterone cream.

> The surgeon referred me to a second opinion and he was nice about it

but also

> stated that he would not recommend the cream (of course! - I didn't

expect

> them to go along, but I am angry that they choose not to listen and

allow 40,000

> women to die each year like it's just accepted as the way it is). I

could go

> on. Anyway, thank you so much for responding and I will look into

the tooth

> truth thing. It may take me years to replace my fillings but it will

be worth it.

> Again, thanks, Janice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Karyn,

I read about the deoderant in Dr. Lee's books. If I remember correctly he

said that survey's showed that women who shaved and then used antipersperant at

least 3 times per week had a much higher rate of breast cancer than women who

didn't shave and then use it. My antiperspirant had alluminum as the first

ingredient! When I first read Dr. 's books I thought she was excessive. I

thought immediately when I read about removing your fillings " I'm not removing

my

teeth! " . Now I see that it is all necessary.

I do have an air purifer. It is an Alpine Air- uses ozone to remove

everything but radon. I don't know if my refrigerator leaks. I will have to find

out

how to test it. I was thinking that they all leak. It is only 10 years old,

perhaps it is ok. I do not have anyplace else to live. Is a good idea to move,

but

only other place would be to move in with my sister and her family, and I'm

sure her place is just as bad if not worse than here (I'd also have to quit my

job, take my son out of school and move to Virginia Beach- which I'd love to

do actually- but is not practical!). I hope to be out from under the financial

committment of paying alot per month for my education loans by spring, then I

can move.

I had planned on taking the progesterone cream last month. Now I'm confused.

The doctor in New Jersey is supposed to be knowledgable about the cream and

Dr. Lee's books. He is the one who said to wait. My regular surgeon and breast

surgeon said that they would not do anything to " mess " with the cells until

after the biopsy. My plan is that if the biopsy shows only DCIS then I will do

the cream for a few months and then have another mamo to see if there are any

changes. I definately plan to take the progesterone cream for a few months

before having any surgery- and to have the surgery only in the leutal phase.

---- I

have been afraid of having the biopsy because when my sister had hers, the

minute the needle went into the tumor she had a reaction (I beleive that this is

when her cancer matastasized). She said that she felt an electric shock and

became panic stricken for a few minutes. Her doctor was baffeled, he had never

seen that before. They told her the name of the reaction, I forget. I am

afraid of having the biopsy for that reason also. ---Do you feel that you should

not have had the biopsy and surgery?? ------ Yes, I plan on telling them that I

am allergic to isopropol alcohol and anything else containing it!!!!

Around June is when I asked my sister to read the Dr. Lee books. She kept

putting me off as she hadn't been to the library to get them. Until I ended up

sending " What your doctor may not tell you about Menopause " earlier this month,

as I was tired of her putting it off. She and her husband are now reading it.

I sent her that book instead of the cancer one because it is easier to take.

It explains a lot about cells, etc.. she can read the cancer one later. I'm

afraid she will be overwhelmed by some of the things that the cancer book

states.

But she has become very spiritual and is an inspiration to all of us through

all this. She is at home now. She was a speech therapist and misses her job,

but she is taking better care of herself and meditating now. She is a

vegetarian. She is tired of new things promising cure that come along so I have

to go

slow introducing the Dr. info to her. She knows that I am on the parasite

program. She is still in the upset stage that I have to go through what she

has been through with this disease. --- I am not a religeous person (but am

spiritual) and a few months ago I asked God to show me how to cure my sister

----

be careful what you ask for!!!!!! I am so glad to have found Dr. Lee and Dr.

.

As far as my boyfriend. He is still hanging in there. I went out to dinner

with him last night. He is being good about this. He thinks I will go " back to

normal " when the biopsy is over. LIttle does he know- there is no going back!

One day at a time! Thanks so much for your ear, I so much appreciate talking

to someone who understands.

~~~~~~~~~~~~_/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janice, I am not an expert on any of this stuff so I don't want to give you

the wrong advice. Obviously you are doing a lot of research on your own. I do

know that for myself, I wish that I had not had the biopsy and I definitely wish

I had not had the surgery, at least until after I had exhausted other

possibilities and given myself a chance to shrink the tumor on my own. But

what's done is done. I am lucky that I just had a lumpectomy. I forbid my

surgeon to do anything more extreme without waking me up first, regardless of

what he found. What was interesting was that it was my general doctor who

mentioned the possibility of the biopsy spreading the cancer. My gyno, who is

much more traditional, was of course horrified by his suggestion that I not have

it.

Going thru this is hard even with the best support system in the world. The day

of my surgery I really wanted to back out, I felt like I was doing it for

everyone else but it was not what I wanted. I was OK going in but when they

told me that the method for testing lymph nodes was to remove them I started

feeling like - what else is going to be taken out of my body? I am also not a

reigious person but I believe that whatever nature put in there - no matter how

small or insignificant - is there for a reason!

Moving is tough, I admit. Again I was lucky in that I had a place to stay, and

also that I work for myself so I did not have to worry about missing work. My

surgery took place between the holidays so things were slow for me. In terms of

timing everything seemed to work out. My sister took great care of me and it was

so good to have someone to talk to every day that was a big believer of dr.

clark and knew so much about it. She even had some of the hard to get items on

the 21-day program right in her cabinet. She kept her place spotless as well.

If you can't move you can certainly at least clean up your house. If your

refrigerator is less than 10 years old it may be OK; apparently the newer ones

do not use freon. Get rid of everything that might be a problem - and don't

forget those candles! It's amazing how they accumulate; my sister threw out

buckets of them after I moved in. Unless you get the soy ones most are loaded

with petroleum.

As for the cream, do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable. My sister

had a lump removed from her breast; the surgeon told her when he took it out

that it was a " ball of estrogen. " She has said several times that she wished

she had started slathering the cream on as soon as she felt it. But hers was not

cancerous; again I don't want to give you advice that I am not 100% sure of

myself.

I hope your sister gets better. All of this information is overwhelming at first

and I understand her reluctance to have her hopes dashed. I felt the same way

when I started learning about this. I think the tough thing to realize is that

this is not about a quick cure, it is really about changing your lifestyle to

remain healthy. We all want to be able to drink and smoke and eat garbage and

then take a little pill that will make it all go away in 30 minutes. It's not

that simple. You are right when you say there is no going back to normal - I

think even people that take more traditional routes must go through some major

habit changes.

Anyway - sorry to ramble. Good luck and keep in touch. Above all - think

positive! Make plans for the future and focus on them. Do things that you like

to do. Remember: " All disease is temporary. "

Karyn

jedidonna@... wrote:

Hi Karyn,

I read about the deoderant in Dr. Lee's books. If I remember correctly he

said that survey's showed that women who shaved and then used antipersperant at

least 3 times per week had a much higher rate of breast cancer than women who

didn't shave and then use it. My antiperspirant had alluminum as the first

ingredient! When I first read Dr. 's books I thought she was excessive. I

thought immediately when I read about removing your fillings " I'm not removing

my

teeth! " . Now I see that it is all necessary.

I do have an air purifer. It is an Alpine Air- uses ozone to remove

everything but radon. I don't know if my refrigerator leaks. I will have to find

out

how to test it. I was thinking that they all leak. It is only 10 years old,

perhaps it is ok. I do not have anyplace else to live. Is a good idea to move,

but

only other place would be to move in with my sister and her family, and I'm

sure her place is just as bad if not worse than here (I'd also have to quit my

job, take my son out of school and move to Virginia Beach- which I'd love to

do actually- but is not practical!). I hope to be out from under the financial

committment of paying alot per month for my education loans by spring, then I

can move.

I had planned on taking the progesterone cream last month. Now I'm confused.

The doctor in New Jersey is supposed to be knowledgable about the cream and

Dr. Lee's books. He is the one who said to wait. My regular surgeon and breast

surgeon said that they would not do anything to " mess " with the cells until

after the biopsy. My plan is that if the biopsy shows only DCIS then I will do

the cream for a few months and then have another mamo to see if there are any

changes. I definately plan to take the progesterone cream for a few months

before having any surgery- and to have the surgery only in the leutal phase.

---- I

have been afraid of having the biopsy because when my sister had hers, the

minute the needle went into the tumor she had a reaction (I beleive that this is

when her cancer matastasized). She said that she felt an electric shock and

became panic stricken for a few minutes. Her doctor was baffeled, he had never

seen that before. They told her the name of the reaction, I forget. I am

afraid of having the biopsy for that reason also. ---Do you feel that you should

not have had the biopsy and surgery?? ------ Yes, I plan on telling them that I

am allergic to isopropol alcohol and anything else containing it!!!!

Around June is when I asked my sister to read the Dr. Lee books. She kept

putting me off as she hadn't been to the library to get them. Until I ended up

sending " What your doctor may not tell you about Menopause " earlier this month,

as I was tired of her putting it off. She and her husband are now reading it.

I sent her that book instead of the cancer one because it is easier to take.

It explains a lot about cells, etc.. she can read the cancer one later. I'm

afraid she will be overwhelmed by some of the things that the cancer book

states.

But she has become very spiritual and is an inspiration to all of us through

all this. She is at home now. She was a speech therapist and misses her job,

but she is taking better care of herself and meditating now. She is a

vegetarian. She is tired of new things promising cure that come along so I have

to go

slow introducing the Dr. info to her. She knows that I am on the parasite

program. She is still in the upset stage that I have to go through what she

has been through with this disease. --- I am not a religeous person (but am

spiritual) and a few months ago I asked God to show me how to cure my sister

----

be careful what you ask for!!!!!! I am so glad to have found Dr. Lee and Dr.

.

As far as my boyfriend. He is still hanging in there. I went out to dinner

with him last night. He is being good about this. He thinks I will go " back to

normal " when the biopsy is over. LIttle does he know- there is no going back!

One day at a time! Thanks so much for your ear, I so much appreciate talking

to someone who understands.

~~~~~~~~~~~~_/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janice, also wanted to send you some other books to take a look at:

Prescription for Nutritional Healing

This is a listing of nearly every ailment and the supplements you need to cure

it. It's written by a husband and wife - he's a doctor, she's a nutritionist.

Great resource

You Can Heal Your Life, by Louise Hay

Focuses more on the emotional aspects of illness; also lists every ailment but

with the emotional cause - very interesting!

Mutant Message Down Under, Marlo

I couldn't resist adding this - it is a memoir/novel about a woman's walk thru

the outback in Australia with a tribe of aboriginal people. There was quite a

controversy over it when it came out - some people believed it was true, some

didn't. Whether it is or not, it's still a beautiful story and very uplifting.

I read it years ago but always have a copy and I reread it several times while I

was going thru my treatment. I think everyone should read it.

Enjoy!

jedidonna@... wrote:

Hi Karyn,

I read about the deoderant in Dr. Lee's books. If I remember correctly he

said that survey's showed that women who shaved and then used antipersperant at

least 3 times per week had a much higher rate of breast cancer than women who

didn't shave and then use it. My antiperspirant had alluminum as the first

ingredient! When I first read Dr. 's books I thought she was excessive. I

thought immediately when I read about removing your fillings " I'm not removing

my

teeth! " . Now I see that it is all necessary.

I do have an air purifer. It is an Alpine Air- uses ozone to remove

everything but radon. I don't know if my refrigerator leaks. I will have to find

out

how to test it. I was thinking that they all leak. It is only 10 years old,

perhaps it is ok. I do not have anyplace else to live. Is a good idea to move,

but

only other place would be to move in with my sister and her family, and I'm

sure her place is just as bad if not worse than here (I'd also have to quit my

job, take my son out of school and move to Virginia Beach- which I'd love to

do actually- but is not practical!). I hope to be out from under the financial

committment of paying alot per month for my education loans by spring, then I

can move.

I had planned on taking the progesterone cream last month. Now I'm confused.

The doctor in New Jersey is supposed to be knowledgable about the cream and

Dr. Lee's books. He is the one who said to wait. My regular surgeon and breast

surgeon said that they would not do anything to " mess " with the cells until

after the biopsy. My plan is that if the biopsy shows only DCIS then I will do

the cream for a few months and then have another mamo to see if there are any

changes. I definately plan to take the progesterone cream for a few months

before having any surgery- and to have the surgery only in the leutal phase.

---- I

have been afraid of having the biopsy because when my sister had hers, the

minute the needle went into the tumor she had a reaction (I beleive that this is

when her cancer matastasized). She said that she felt an electric shock and

became panic stricken for a few minutes. Her doctor was baffeled, he had never

seen that before. They told her the name of the reaction, I forget. I am

afraid of having the biopsy for that reason also. ---Do you feel that you should

not have had the biopsy and surgery?? ------ Yes, I plan on telling them that I

am allergic to isopropol alcohol and anything else containing it!!!!

Around June is when I asked my sister to read the Dr. Lee books. She kept

putting me off as she hadn't been to the library to get them. Until I ended up

sending " What your doctor may not tell you about Menopause " earlier this month,

as I was tired of her putting it off. She and her husband are now reading it.

I sent her that book instead of the cancer one because it is easier to take.

It explains a lot about cells, etc.. she can read the cancer one later. I'm

afraid she will be overwhelmed by some of the things that the cancer book

states.

But she has become very spiritual and is an inspiration to all of us through

all this. She is at home now. She was a speech therapist and misses her job,

but she is taking better care of herself and meditating now. She is a

vegetarian. She is tired of new things promising cure that come along so I have

to go

slow introducing the Dr. info to her. She knows that I am on the parasite

program. She is still in the upset stage that I have to go through what she

has been through with this disease. --- I am not a religeous person (but am

spiritual) and a few months ago I asked God to show me how to cure my sister

----

be careful what you ask for!!!!!! I am so glad to have found Dr. Lee and Dr.

.

As far as my boyfriend. He is still hanging in there. I went out to dinner

with him last night. He is being good about this. He thinks I will go " back to

normal " when the biopsy is over. LIttle does he know- there is no going back!

One day at a time! Thanks so much for your ear, I so much appreciate talking

to someone who understands.

~~~~~~~~~~~~_/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi Karyn,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I feel the same way - that I am

doing surgery for others, also, I'm afraid not to. I hope to be able to shrink

the fibroids and whatever is arround the calcium deposits before having to do

the surgery. I can see my surgeon telling me next Friday that he has

scheduled me for surgery on Monday. He won't like my answer. I think he will be

in a

hurry because I was suppose to have the biopsy on Sept 16th (my birthday by the

way) and I canceled it so that I could go to Boston to get the AMAS blood

test. I think that he beleives that I have already put this off too long. We'll

see.

Today I went to get the parts at Radio Shack to make the home-made zapper.

I'm looking for someone to make it for me. Perhaps a guy in my office might be a

little more knowledgeable about electronics. I am on day 6 of the parasite

herbs. I took the first two tablespoon dose of wallnut hull. This is gross but I

can feel wiggling in my abdomen. Did you experience feeling your parasites

die? Geez if anyone else from my office heard me talking like this I'd be hauled

off in a white jacket!!!

My mom was a librarian before retiring and has been trying to locate tooth

truth for me. I may have to go to and Noble. Would it be rude of me to

ask you aproximately how much it cost you to have your teeth re-filled (did you

have them re-filled or removed?).

I'm glad you reminded me of the candles. Just last weekend we threw out all

the extra stuff under the sink and in the bathroom. My mom loves candles and I

have to do this gradually.

Thank you for the book referrals. I like Louise Hay. I read the Mutant

Message Down Under years ago- awesome story. Have you read " Conversations with

God? "

by Neale Walsh? It isn't a " religeous " book, but is about God. It's my

favorite.

I'm curious- what do you do for a living? You sound like a counselor. I am a

Social Worker. Again- THANK YOU for your time and encouragement.

:-) Janice

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tara. I'll look for one on e-bay. Also, would you know where I

might purchase some ozonated olive oil, quickly? Thanks. Janice

[Guest guest]

Karyn, also- I was reading Dr. s book again and noted that killing the

parasites with the herbs needs to be followed up with the ozonated oil and

L-cystine to kill the babies. I cannot afford an ozonator right now. Will I get

sick in the next 24 hours from the offspring? Do you or anyone know where I can

get ozonated olive oil quick like? I ordered L-cystine from New Action today.

Thanks again, Janice

[Guest guest]

Janice,

I was reading Dr. 's book again today, and it said that barium (found

in lipstick) causes breast cancer! interesting!? Also, if you want to buy a

zapper, you could get one for $50 on ebay- I don't know if you saw my other

post. It would be a LOT less hassle than trying to make one. I never

attempted it- I thought.. For the extra $25, I'll let THEM make it!! Just a

thought anyway. Good luck with everything to you!

Tara Owen

Hi Karyn,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I feel the same way - that I am

doing surgery for others, also, I'm afraid not to. I hope to be able to

shrink

the fibroids and whatever is arround the calcium deposits before having to

do

the surgery. I can see my surgeon telling me next Friday that he has

scheduled me for surgery on Monday. He won't like my answer. I think he will

be in a

hurry because I was suppose to have the biopsy on Sept 16th (my birthday by

the

way) and I canceled it so that I could go to Boston to get the AMAS blood

test. I think that he beleives that I have already put this off too long. We

ll

see.

Today I went to get the parts at Radio Shack to make the home-made zapper.

I'm looking for someone to make it for me. Perhaps a guy in my office might

be a

little more knowledgeable about electronics. I am on day 6 of the parasite

herbs. I took the first two tablespoon dose of wallnut hull. This is gross

but I

can feel wiggling in my abdomen. Did you experience feeling your parasites

die? Geez if anyone else from my office heard me talking like this I'd be

hauled

off in a white jacket!!!

My mom was a librarian before retiring and has been trying to locate tooth

truth for me. I may have to go to and Noble. Would it be rude of me

to

ask you aproximately how much it cost you to have your teeth re-filled (did

you

have them re-filled or removed?).

I'm glad you reminded me of the candles. Just last weekend we threw out all

the extra stuff under the sink and in the bathroom. My mom loves candles and

I

have to do this gradually.

Thank you for the book referrals. I like Louise Hay. I read the Mutant

Message Down Under years ago- awesome story. Have you read " Conversations

with God? "

by Neale Walsh? It isn't a " religeous " book, but is about God. It's

my

favorite.

I'm curious- what do you do for a living? You sound like a counselor. I am a

Social Worker. Again- THANK YOU for your time and encouragement.

:-) Janice

[Guest guest]

You are welcome! AND, you can find ozonated olive oil on ebay too!! Check

out this link. I did a search, and this is what I found: http://search.ebay

com/ozonated-olive-oil_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ0QQfromZR10QQsorecordsperpageZ

0QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsofindtypeZ15QQsacategoryZ-1Q26catrefQ3DC6QQsosortpro

ertyZ1QQsosortorderZ1

I buy EVERYTHING off of ebay- can you tell??? :-)

Tara

Thank you Tara. I'll look for one on e-bay. Also, would you know where I

might purchase some ozonated olive oil, quickly? Thanks. Janice

[Guest guest]

>> I took the first two tablespoon dose of wallnut hull. This is

gross but I can feel wiggling in my abdomen. Did you experience

feeling your parasites die? Geez if anyone else from my office heard

me talking like this I'd be hauled off in a white jacket!!!

Janice:

The wiggling is common when the parasites are being exterminated so

to speak. You can now feel completely confident that you definitely

had them in there and that they are dying. That is exactly what

happened to me the first time I did a parasite cleanse (before I read

Dr. 's books) and it was disgusting. The product literature that

came with the parasite cleanse materials I was using at the time

specifically stated that you can expect to feel poking in your

abdomen as the parasites being to die. So, in short, you are not

crazy!

Good luck to you! You are on the right track.

Lorna

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately I don't; I had already purchased an ozonator so I was able to make

the oil. Keep taking the l-cysteine in the meantime.

jedidonna@... wrote:Karyn, also- I was reading Dr. s book again and

noted that killing the

parasites with the herbs needs to be followed up with the ozonated oil and

L-cystine to kill the babies. I cannot afford an ozonator right now. Will I get

sick in the next 24 hours from the offspring? Do you or anyone know where I can

get ozonated olive oil quick like? I ordered L-cystine from New Action today.

Thanks again, Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janice,

You're welcome - I am glad to help. I know it's tough to go thru.

No I am not a counselor, I am an independent database programmer.

Tooth Truth is self-published so you won't find it at B & N. You can order it

online from the link below:

http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/

I think it was about $25 but I can't remember. I know you are concerned about

finances so I'll give you the basic gist:

DON'T put metal/mercury fillings in your mouth

DON'T get root canals

DON'T drink soda - ever!

DO get fillings replaced or if necessary the teeth pulled

DO brush with baking soda

DO eat foods that are good for you

DO floss every day!

DO take care of your teeth so that fillings are not necessary

It cost me $930 to get my work done. I did not have that many fillings - I

think I had 2-3 replaced and one tooth with a root canal pulled. Of course I

also had to factor in the travel and hotel costs which came to another $400.

I have not read Conversations with God but I'll look for it, thanks. Glad to

hear you loved Mutant Message - so many people of never heard of it.

Good luck talking to your doctor - they can be intimidating. Just do whatever

feels right for you, even if it means having the surgery. If you think you'll

feel more relieved to have it out so you can then just concentrate on getting

better, then that's OK too.

Talk to you soon,

Karyn

PS - Tell your mom she can buy soy candles. But I'd still prefer that you not

have anything, burning or not, in your house until you are better.

jedidonna@... wrote:

Hi Karyn,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I feel the same way - that I am

doing surgery for others, also, I'm afraid not to. I hope to be able to shrink

the fibroids and whatever is arround the calcium deposits before having to do

the surgery. I can see my surgeon telling me next Friday that he has

scheduled me for surgery on Monday. He won't like my answer. I think he will be

in a

hurry because I was suppose to have the biopsy on Sept 16th (my birthday by the

way) and I canceled it so that I could go to Boston to get the AMAS blood

test. I think that he beleives that I have already put this off too long. We'll

see.

Today I went to get the parts at Radio Shack to make the home-made zapper.

I'm looking for someone to make it for me. Perhaps a guy in my office might be a

little more knowledgeable about electronics. I am on day 6 of the parasite

herbs. I took the first two tablespoon dose of wallnut hull. This is gross but I

can feel wiggling in my abdomen. Did you experience feeling your parasites

die? Geez if anyone else from my office heard me talking like this I'd be hauled

off in a white jacket!!!

My mom was a librarian before retiring and has been trying to locate tooth

truth for me. I may have to go to and Noble. Would it be rude of me to

ask you aproximately how much it cost you to have your teeth re-filled (did you

have them re-filled or removed?).

I'm glad you reminded me of the candles. Just last weekend we threw out all

the extra stuff under the sink and in the bathroom. My mom loves candles and I

have to do this gradually.

Thank you for the book referrals. I like Louise Hay. I read the Mutant

Message Down Under years ago- awesome story. Have you read " Conversations with

God? "

by Neale Walsh? It isn't a " religeous " book, but is about God. It's my

favorite.

I'm curious- what do you do for a living? You sound like a counselor. I am a

Social Worker. Again- THANK YOU for your time and encouragement.

:-) Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi Karyn, thanks for the infor on ozonated oil on e-bay. I looked it up and

it appears that the oil is only for topical use for skin conditions. Is this

the same ozonated oil that Dr. talks about?

I remember someone on this forum talking about that you can now use CoQ 10 in

high doses instead of olive oil for the mop up program for Ascaris eggs. Does

anyone know the doseage? Or have the recipe from the new book? I think they

said it is in the " advanced cure for cancer book " . I only have " the cure for

all cancers " book. I am still trying to make the zapper, wish I hadn't bought

the materials and had known that I could get one online. Haven't had any night

sweats yet.

AGain, thank you Karyn and everyone. Janice

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Tara, I thought it was Karyn that sent me the info about the

ozonated oil- Thank you Tara. Janice

[Guest guest]

Actually I believe it was Tara that sent that info.

You can definitely take co-q-10, in fact that was also part of the 21-day

regimen. I can't remember how many I took - the doses varied. I think the

highest doses were 20 per day, in addition to the ozonated olive oil. However

fyi co-q-10 is pretty expensive; I think it's around $54 per bottle. Of course

you don't have to take 20 a day, you can start out with less.

There used to be a link on the dr clark site of the top 5 immune system dangers

and how to get rid of them. I'm pretty sure it's still there and that co-q-10

is mentioned. That might give you a better idea of what dosage to start out

with.

www.drhuldaclark.org

Karyn

jedidonna@... wrote:

Hi Karyn, thanks for the infor on ozonated oil on e-bay. I looked it up and it

appears that the oil is only for topical use for skin conditions. Is this the

same ozonated oil that Dr. talks about?

I remember someone on this forum talking about that you can now use CoQ 10 in

high doses instead of olive oil for the mop up program for Ascaris eggs. Does

anyone know the doseage? Or have the recipe from the new book? I think they said

it is in the " advanced cure for cancer book " . I only have " the cure for all

cancers " book. I am still trying to make the zapper, wish I hadn't bought the

materials and had known that I could get one online. Haven't had any night

sweats yet.

AGain, thank you Karyn and everyone. Janice

[Guest guest]

By the way, does anyone know if ozonated oil can be safely mailed? I always

preferred to ozonate it fresh each time but when I was doing the 21-day program

I made a batch and froze it. Once the oil is ozonated - does the ozone

dissipate after a certain point?

Thanks,

Karyn

jedidonna@... wrote:

Hi Karyn, thanks for the infor on ozonated oil on e-bay. I looked it up and

it appears that the oil is only for topical use for skin conditions. Is this

the same ozonated oil that Dr. talks about?

I remember someone on this forum talking about that you can now use CoQ 10 in

high doses instead of olive oil for the mop up program for Ascaris eggs. Does

anyone know the doseage? Or have the recipe from the new book? I think they

said it is in the " advanced cure for cancer book " . I only have " the cure for

all cancers " book. I am still trying to make the zapper, wish I hadn't bought

the materials and had known that I could get one online. Haven't had any night

sweats yet.

AGain, thank you Karyn and everyone. Janice

[Guest guest]

Thanks Karyn. Have a beautiful day! Janice

[Guest guest]

No problem!! Sorry it wasn't of much help! :-(

Tara

I'm sorry Tara, I thought it was Karyn that sent me the info about the

ozonated oil- Thank you Tara. Janice

[Guest guest]

Hey , It looks like there is no one who is knowledgable about sending

ozoneated olive oil in the mail.

Tara, I found a zapper online- I took back the parts to Radio Shack- I had no

clue about how to put it together, you were right, it's better to just buy

one on e-bay.

Is there anyone out there who is using the Dr. book to cure their

cancer who lives in upstate New York?

Janice