Liver Cleanse

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Mel <jonah@...> wrote:LOL...Maybe that was the Lord picking

you up and shaking you like a salt shaker to get the stones down to the bottom..

melville.. ;-D...hehehe

Re: liver cleanse

In a message dated 2/12/03 7:02:33 PM Central Standard Time,

AmourMaltese@... writes:

> He was upset that his stones were not as big as mine

I have a question. does it matter how big the stones are? on my first

cleanse I passed maybe 200 huge ones, and at least 3000 little ones that

were a millimeter or two big. then on my second, again the same results, and

now I just finished my third. some were over an inch long, and this time I

was passing large stones for two days, and not as many little ones. So do

they all count, or should I just be trying to eliminate 2000 big ones?

Oh, and has anyone felt the stones coming out of the liver? On this last

cleanse I was sleeping terribly, due to the nausea I guess, and I was awoken

by this shaking in my abdomen that was the weirdest feeling! Lasted about 30

seconds then went away!

Thanks

Hanida

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liver cleanse

Hi HD: It's a piece of Cake. Not near as bad as it sounds.. Go for it!

Walt

Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a bowl of oatmeal today

and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse tonight.

Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm in for? I'm

expecting a rough night.....

Thanks!

highdelivery

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Hi,

It's not bad if you follow the protocol to the tee. Did you zap or take

the black walnut hulls before starting? She says you can feel sick if

you don't. I have done it five times. I mix the olive oil with the

grapefruit juice, hold my nose and drink it with a straw; then

immediately lay down. Also take four orinthine (sp?) It will help you

sleep. Try to go to sleep as soon as you can. Don't move for the first

20 minutes at all. I've woke up in the middle of the night with a

strange feeling in my stomach like it's full. I think that it's the

stones. Unfortunately my daughter still wakes up sometimes at night and

I have to get up with her.

I actually tried to do one the other day. I forgot to zap, though I had

zapped less than a week before I think. But I had a headache but didn't

want to take anything since you're not supposed to eat or drink. I took

the two salt water doses. Then went to make the olive oil mixture and

even before I got it made I threw up. I think it was the headache. So

I scrapped that cleanse because I didn't want to go through drinking

that stuff and then just throw it up.

I usually have to go to the bathroom a couple times before 10 p.m. That

cleans out whatever is in you. Then in the morning basically liquid and

stones come out, that is all. But you will feel very good after it's

all done.

Good luck,

highdelivery wrote:

>Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a bowl of oatmeal today

>and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse tonight.

>

>Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm in for? I'm

>expecting a rough night.....

>

>Thanks!

>

>highdelivery

>

>

>

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Hi,

I guess, I am lucky. I was so scared the first time I

did the liver cleanse... and nothing " bad " happened

(no vomiting, etc.) Maybe it's also because I am

rather constipated all the time and this was a

pleasant relief.

Taking the epsom salt and-- in the evening-- the olive

oil, grapefr. mixture, was no problem at all. I just

gulped it down-- oh yes with 8 ornithine, because I

have sleeping problems anyway. I did not sleep too

well, but otherwise, had absolutely no discomfort.

In the morning I had a BM... I counted about 200

stones every time I did it... and more BMs during the

day... but the next day I always felt better... and

lighter...

hope that helps...

Ingrid

>

> highdelivery wrote:

>

> >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a

> bowl of oatmeal today

> >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse

> tonight.

> >

> >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm

> in for? I'm

> >expecting a rough night.....

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >highdelivery

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, and Walt, thanks for the encouragement! Sheesh, I just did

my first dose of epsom salts and I already feel a little woozy! All

I can think about is food, I am so pathetic!

Yes I did the parasite cleanse, and for anyone who is out there

(maybe I saw Walt with a question about getting parasites out in an

earlier post) trying to rid themselves of parasites in the colon, I

did four five-gallon colonics on my Colema™ board while doing the

parasite cleanse for a week and you would NOT BELIEVE what came out

of me!

I am a true believer in colonics. If you have any questions about

them, feel free to ask away!

>

> >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a bowl of oatmeal

today

> >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse tonight.

> >

> >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm in for? I'm

> >expecting a rough night.....

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >highdelivery

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Ingrid, this is very helpful! I guess I won't be so scared

now.......I got my ornithine today so I am good to go.

> >

> > >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a

> > bowl of oatmeal today

> > >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse

> > tonight.

> > >

> > >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm

> > in for? I'm

> > >expecting a rough night.....

> > >

> > >Thanks!

> > >

> > >highdelivery

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

A BM? Whazzatt???

Re: liver cleanse

Hi,

I guess, I am lucky. I was so scared the first time I

did the liver cleanse... and nothing " bad " happened

(no vomiting, etc.) Maybe it's also because I am

rather constipated all the time and this was a

pleasant relief.

Taking the epsom salt and-- in the evening-- the olive

oil, grapefr. mixture, was no problem at all. I just

gulped it down-- oh yes with 8 ornithine, because I

have sleeping problems anyway. I did not sleep too

well, but otherwise, had absolutely no discomfort.

In the morning I had a BM... I counted about 200

stones every time I did it... and more BMs during the

day... but the next day I always felt better... and

lighter...

hope that helps...

Ingrid

>

> highdelivery wrote:

>

> >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a

> bowl of oatmeal today

> >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse

> tonight.

> >

> >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm

> in for? I'm

> >expecting a rough night.....

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >highdelivery

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mel, maybe you need a colonic! I swear by them now.

> >

> > >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a

> > bowl of oatmeal today

> > >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse

> > tonight.

> > >

> > >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm

> > in for? I'm

> > >expecting a rough night.....

> > >

> > >Thanks!

> > >

> > >highdelivery

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

NoooOOOooo...I just knew it...Yikes!!!!!

Won't that little bulb enema of mine do the job..Do I have to have a big rig?

melville ;-)

Re: liver cleanse

Mel, maybe you need a colonic! I swear by them now.

[Guest guest]

Hey Melville, I read your post saying " somebody will tell me to get a

colonic " AFTER I posted what I did and I wanted to crawl in a hole

and die, LOL.

Men just don't seem to want to get into this sort of thing!

I just drank my second round of Epsom salts. N A S T Y. I can't

wait for the next round!

> NoooOOOooo...I just knew it...Yikes!!!!!

> Won't that little bulb enema of mine do the job..Do I have to have

a big rig?

> melville ;-)

> Re: liver cleanse

>

>

> Mel, maybe you need a colonic! I swear by them now.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

High High!!!

Can't stand the thought of being penetrated, but I get over it once I do the

enema..See!!! I just knew someone would get on my case about colonics..Hahahaha

;-)

OooooOOooo the second round of Epsom salts..I hate the taste..

Re: liver cleanse

>

>

> Mel, maybe you need a colonic! I swear by them now.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Next morning. OOG. The olive oil/grapefruit juice/black walnut

tincture mix wasn't that bad and I chugged it down in a minute. It

was all I could do to lay still for 20 min because I already was

running to the john every ten minutes or so. I've probably gotten

out 150 tiny stones so far with lots of that " chaff " she talks

about. I feel like crap but it's good to know that the stones are

coming out. Thanks again to all who gave me advice.

> > NoooOOOooo...I just knew it...Yikes!!!!!

> > Won't that little bulb enema of mine do the job..Do I have to

have

> a big rig?

> > melville ;-)

> > Re: liver cleanse

> >

> >

> > Mel, maybe you need a colonic! I swear by them now.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Alllrighty then..Oog;

That's a good report that you got rid of a bunch of stones..Sorry that I can't

claim the same; but maybe on my next one sometime next week..I'm due for

another..

melville ;-)

Re: liver cleanse

Next morning. OOG. The olive oil/grapefruit juice/black walnut

tincture mix wasn't that bad and I chugged it down in a minute. It

was all I could do to lay still for 20 min because I already was

running to the john every ten minutes or so. I've probably gotten

out 150 tiny stones so far with lots of that " chaff " she talks

about. I feel like crap but it's good to know that the stones are

coming out. Thanks again to all who gave me advice.

[Guest guest]

Re: liver cleanse

> >

> >

> > Mel, maybe you need a colonic! I swear by them now.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I think everybody knows this, but wouldn't Milk thistle be the

best for liver protection, and probably for cleansing as it has

silymarin, a strong antioxidant? Also, mugwort and some other

herbs (Cyoerus rotundus, Corydalis turtschaninovii, etc)

are probably good.

cheers,

Arnold

DreamPharm.com

[Guest guest]

Re: liver cleanse

HI Highdelivery: Shoot away on the colonics you got my interest up? And just

what did come out?

Walt

Hi, and Walt, thanks for the encouragement! Sheesh, I just did

my first dose of epsom salts and I already feel a little woozy! All

I can think about is food, I am so pathetic!

Yes I did the parasite cleanse, and for anyone who is out there

(maybe I saw Walt with a question about getting parasites out in an

earlier post) trying to rid themselves of parasites in the colon, I

did four five-gallon colonics on my ColemaT board while doing the

parasite cleanse for a week and you would NOT BELIEVE what came out

of me!

I am a true believer in colonics. If you have any questions about

them, feel free to ask away!

>

> >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a bowl of oatmeal

today

> >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse tonight.

> >

> >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm in for? I'm

> >expecting a rough night.....

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >highdelivery

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Walt. Prepare to be grossed out!

I started doing two colonics a week back in August. I've put coffee,

garlic, and pickling salt into the water, and I find that plain old

water (on the cool side) from the tap works best. Cooler water

causes the large intestine to move better.

At first I did not have any luck getting ANYTING out. My colon was

too far " asleep " . So I went to a colon therapist who has a much

nicer setup. She massaged my abdomen where my colon is and that

really got me going. However, the next day I came down with a

terrible cold that lasted four days. The colon therapist said she

felt that the virus was laying dormant in my large intestine and

jarring it brought it to life.

I started doing week long parasite cleanses back in November. That,

combined with the colonics, brought out a bunch of long worms that

sort of resembled spaghetti. I'd say I've gotten eight of them out

of me. Now, and this is gross, I always put a plastic strainer in

the toilet as I do my colonics so that I can see what I'm getting out

of me. A lot of sites say you'll get this hard, rubber like

substance out, which is putrefied, petrified poo, but I've never had

that happen yet. There are week long fasts combined with various

herbs that you can do to get that poo out but I've never had the time

to do that. I can make you feel pretty bad for a week and it's

recommended that you stay home from work.

What comes out of me is generally just hard, impacted feces and some

that looks like it's fresher. I usually do a colonic every week and

a half or so now. The difference between what comes out during a

colonic and what comes out during a BM is that the stuff that comes

out during a colonic stinks to high heck. Sometimes it actually

smells like a skunk. I have no idea why.

By the way, I lost six pounds in two weeks when I started doing the

cononics. I have not changed my diet or exercise in any way, though

I drink about 36 ounces of spring water a day to help the bowel

move. I also take acidophilus tablets every day. I know that if I

was more regular with my colonics and if I used colon cleansing herbs

that I would get more out.

I bought my colema board (the basic one) at www.amenhealth.com

I wish I would have bought the more expensive model.

Gross enough for ya? (grin)

> >

> > >Hi group, I'm a newbie. I've had a salad and a bowl of

oatmeal

> today

> > >and will be doing Dr. 's liver cleanse tonight.

> > >

> > >Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what I'm in for?

I'm

> > >expecting a rough night.....

> > >

> > >Thanks!

> > >

> > >highdelivery

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

i think the chemo is able to be cleansed from the system faster and more

completely if one does a serious cleanse - bowel, kidney, liver, the whole

shebang

- in a step-wise fashion, under good naturopathic care. I'm not certain, but

if Dr. Schulze detox cleanses a lot of heavy metals and drugs out of the

system, if done correctly and systematically, then I am assuming that would

include the chemo.

Deva

[Guest guest]

From: Keranahalli, Prakash <prakash.keranahalli@...>

> How do you DETOX the LIVER ???

Most effective way by far is coffee enemas (or chlorophyll enemas).

Other ways include

beet juice, beet root, broccoli, sulforaphane/broccoli sprouts green bitter

vegetables (e.g., endive, collards, dock, and dandelion), dandelion root,

turmeric, ginger, schizandra, licorice, burdock, garlic, onions; milk thistle,

artichoke; avoid/minimize sugar, protein, and fat. WellZyme Liver (herbal enzyme

formula), UltraClear (by Metagenics), and Liv-a-Tox (Enzymatic Therapy;

www.enzy.com) are reportedly good liver-cleansing products. Homeopathic remedies

can be quite helpful. For more info,

www.liverdoc.com (Dr. Cabot)

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know how long chemo drugs stay ACTIVE in the system?

The damage to the immune system from the chemo can be forever, that's the

problem.

So why does whether the chemo is active or not, when the body is not

active?....

One can suddenly have symptoms years after he did the chemo, and not relate it

to the chemo.

For example, astma. For example, inflammations, uncontrolled urine etc.

Doing detox after chemo is not like doing detox without chemo.

After the chemo, the body not only fights cancer, but also fights the chemo

damage.

It it especially difficult because the body can only fight with the immune

system, but ironically this same system was destroyed by the chemo (talk about

the logic of these treatments !)

There is no better way, in my opinion, than to strengthen the immune system and

let the body do what it wants to

do: heal itself.

Iris.

[ ] liver cleanse

Sorry I hit the enter key while I was on autopilot.

I currently have metastic breast cancer, that is now in my liver. I

keep reading about how a liver cleanse can help the immune systerm,

but it seems to me that I would want my chemo in my liver and not

detoxify it.

Does anyone know how long chemo drugs stay ACTIVE in the system?

Thanks

Pati

[Guest guest]

I suggest every one who considers going through chemo, read what the chemo does

EXACTLY to the body,

BEFORE going to chemo. For example,

I read in the conventional sources that people hear " cure " when the doctors say

that the tumor " responds " to the chemo.

" responds " means the tumor shrinks, but does not nean it makes one live longer.

Chemo also creates new cancer cells,

because chemo is carcinogenic Class 1.

Iris.

Re: [ ] liver cleanse

i think the chemo is able to be cleansed from the system faster and more

completely if one does a serious cleanse - bowel, kidney, liver, the whole

shebang

- in a step-wise fashion, under good naturopathic care. I'm not certain, but

if Dr. Schulze detox cleanses a lot of heavy metals and drugs out of the

system, if done correctly and systematically, then I am assuming that would

include the chemo.

Deva

[Guest guest]

This is why my fiance stopped after 7 out of 14

sessions of high dose irinetican chemotherary and went

full on alternative,but i am prepared to concede that

maybe chemo drugs have improved slightly since

survival is increasing,unless its better surgery and

early detection

--- atzmonh@... <atzmonh@...> wrote:

> I suggest every one who considers going through

chemo, read what the chemo does EXACTLY to the body,

> BEFORE going to chemo. For example,

> I read in the conventional sources that people hear

" cure " when the doctors say that the tumor " responds "

to the chemo.

> " responds " means the tumor shrinks, but does not

nean it makes one live longer. Chemo also creates new

cancer cells,

> because chemo is carcinogenic Class 1.

>

> Iris.

>

> Re: [ ] liver cleanse

>

>

> i think the chemo is able to be cleansed from the

system faster and more

> completely if one does a serious cleanse - bowel,

kidney, liver, the whole shebang

> - in a step-wise fashion, under good naturopathic

care. I'm not certain, but

> if Dr. Schulze detox cleanses a lot of heavy

metals and drugs out of the

> system, if done correctly and systematically, then

I am assuming that would

> include the chemo.

> Deva

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We have a friend wanting to do the liver cleanse that had her gall bladder

removed. Is the liver cleanse safe without a gallbladder?

Thank you!

Chad

ph:951-303-3471

fax:603-994-1746

[Guest guest]

Hi Chad,

Yes it is very safe. If you scan through the curezone.com forums you

will read many accounts of people without their gallbladders that do liver

cleanses with great successes. I say go for it!!

Ken

-- Re: Re:Liver Cleanse

We have a friend wanting to do the liver cleanse that had her gall bladder

removed. Is the liver cleanse safe without a gallbladder?

Thank you!

Chad

ph:951-303-3471

fax:603-994-1746

[Guest guest]

did you do the parasite cleans first?

roger

--- midge3js <midge130@...> wrote:

> Hey All,

>

> I am currently doing my 4th liver cleanse....will be

> taking the OO/GF

> juice in 75 min. When do you start seeing the

> stones?? With my first 3

> liver cleanses I only got out chaff, and with the

> 3rd one chaff and

> some really tiny stones.

>

> I'm really praying that this 4th one will start

> everything moving in

> the right direction. OUT!! LOL!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Midge

>

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