Re: Moral support

August 15, 2001

Dear Everyone,

I haven't written to thank those of you who wrote me w. resources for a

Lyme support group around Cambridge, MA - thank you. I haven't gotten to

one yet - there's one in Brookline wh. may be the closest - but I do need

to find one. I have to rely on public transportation wh. is part of the

problem in getting to one.

In any case, can I come to you w. something I'd bring to a Lyme support

group? I just had a spectacularly disastrous dinner meeting with a

support group I have for writing my dissertation - we're all grad

students. They know I'm struggling w. Lyme (or something like Lyme - I

never met the CDC's criteria but have an LLMD dx) - that's a large reason

I joined this Dissertation support group (wh. is organized each semester

thru one of the university's mental health centers). And tonight they

just seemed to forget it (not all, but some of them).

I know I don't usually look or seem ill; but they know I'm dealing w.

pain and deciding ab. IV abx. They talked ab. the exercise programs

they're doing (or gyms they go to) - how good it makes them feel. And

then one of them said someone he went camping with got Lyme but it's not

terminal, and he meant chronic, and the person found out ab. it right

away and is getting abx and will be fine. I felt so awful being the

" chronically ill " person; I tried to explain how chronic just means that

it took a while to get dx'd and so it takes longer to treat. (I hope

this person really does get well - we do know Lyme can come back at you).

Anyway, here are these 3 healthy, active people at a social event/support

group with me (we had dinner this time instead of talking about our

dissertation work) and I just felt so horrible ab. being ill, and being

different, and not having an exercise program (I would like to - what do

people do). I just came home and cried.

The paradox seems to be that I want to fit in with " well " people - my mind

feels well (the abx helped the cognitive problems) - my spirit feels well

- I can function well sometimes - and I want to look and be attractive and

active - I'm in my 30s and always was high energy.

Is it better when people see you as sick or when they forget? What's

worse? It feels stupid to feel so hurt by people's insensitivity when you

want to come across as someone who is active and well.

I don't feel comfortable bringing this to my dinner companions bec. I

don't want to be the " sick " person.

What lifts you out of it when something like this happens - people forget

- and you feel so alone w. all that you've struggled with and things that

you can't do?

Thanks for listening,

Marie

December 30, 2003

Hi Karyn,

Just thought I'd let you know about my working buddy's uncle who was in the

hospital with cancer of the spleen and other organs and the Dr's gave him about

2 more weeks to live. He was in such bad shape that they said they could do

nothing. He was so weak and wasted that he could not get out of bed to go to

the bathroom. The family was there visiting and a nurse came walking by and

discretely wrote down Dr. 's name and her book and said this was his only

hope. My buddy, Vicky, got the book and read about the black walnut. She found

some at a health food store (I don't know what brand) and made up the " receipe "

and snuck the drink in the hospital and the family made him drink it every

chance they got. Of course it tasted awful. He was released from the hospital 3

weeks later (the Dr's are shaking their heads) and went home. He finally was

persuaded to go for a check up 3 months later and they could not find any trace

of cancer. He was so happy to be back home doing the things he loved to do. He

was 68 at the time. This was 2 years ago and is still doing fine. This is the

only one that I know of personally, but I don't know a lot of people other

than the ones I work with and my own family. When you work 50+ hours a week and

have 2 teenagers in the house, one doesn't get out a lot. This was also how I

found out about Dr. ! I did all her cleanses and the only problem I

had/have is circulatory. I use alternative solutions to keep my arteries cleaned

out and my chlorestoral down. The doctors do not have any solution for that. So

keep up your hope and do everything that is required per the book and you will

succeed! I have no doubt.

God Bless

And I thank Him for making the Walnut Tree and the Tea Tree(Melaleuca Tree).

Marjorie.

December 30, 2003

Karyn,

Congratulations to you for having the courage to do the right thing for

yourself and welcome to the group. I feel strongly that you will cure your

cancer and be healthier in the long run. This is your body and you know

what is best for yourself. I have found this group to be invaluable for

information and knowledge. Please keep us posted on your progress.

I don't have a story for you other than sad tales of western medicine

blunders, sick friends who think I believe in quacks, and the pain of

watching vibrant women become sick and weak under chemo and radiation

treatments, not to mention those who suffered secondary cancers (caused by

chemo, I would think), and the ultimate sacrifice, death. My sis in law

just finished chemo after a mastectomy and I have a sister about to do the

same. It sickens me that they are so closed minded about their options.

I'm now 50. When I was 26, I was told I had suspicious cells in my

cervix. I had surgery and they removed my cervix because it was cancerous

(dumb me never asked what that meant!), and wanted me to undergo radiation

and or chemo. My boyfriend at the time had an aunt who was a biochemist

and she told him that I would probably die if I went with the suggestions

of those doctors. I didn't do it, but just ate live foods, no crap, and

took multivitamins and minerals on the aunt's recommendation. I have not

had any problems since. If I had known then what I know now, I would have

a cervix today.

Don't let cancer scare you. Take charge of your cells and their health and

do what it takes to get rid of free radicals, parasites, infection, and

build your immune system. I'm sure you will be successful in defeating cancer.

Here are links to for alternative medicine for breast

cancer. You may find the stories you are looking for here and I'm sure

there are plenty more elsewhere on the web.

Alternative_Breast_Cancer/

Dr-testimonials/

http://www.curezone.com

http://cancure.org

Diane

At 08:17 PM 12/30/03 +0000, you wrote:

>Hello everyone, I just joined this group today although I have been a

>follower of Dr. 's for several years.

>

>I was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. I had a lumpectomy but

>my lymph nodes and other tissue tests came back positive. Needless

>to say I want to avoid both chemo and more surgery. I am already on

>Day 5 of the 21-Day program and feel very optimistic about it but am

>just looking for stories from those of you that have also gone thru

>this successfully.

>

>My family and friends are being pretty supportive but I know they are

>concerned that I am not following the typical path. I think I need

>your stories more for them than for myself.

>

>Thanks and good health to all of you!

>

>Karyn Witzel

>

December 31, 2003

Hi Karyn,

I'm on my way out the door, so can't write much now, but wanted to

let you know you are definitely not alone.

More than 4 years ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer.

I had surgery, then refused all conventional treatment [knowing what

I know today, I would delay surgery and use Dr. 's methods to

shrink the tumor].

I had mercury posioning diagnosed by my doctor and had passed a 10

inch worm years several years before my cancer diagnosis.

I tried 3 other alternative cancer therapies that did nothing for me

before I found Dr. . It is more than 4 years since I started

her program.

Her methods are awesome. Are you using her plate zapping protocol

and homeography as outlined in her updated HIV book?

I have a discussion list devoted just to breast cancer survivors who

are using Dr. 's latest cancer program at bcproject on

if you would like to join us.

Warm regards,

PS...Several years ago another woman and I started up the

huldaclarkenthusiasts list which is also here on . Much of my

story over the years is posted there, starting with the very first

message.

> Hello everyone, I just joined this group today although I have been

a

> follower of Dr. 's for several years.

>

> I was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. I had a lumpectomy

but

> my lymph nodes and other tissue tests came back positive. Needless

> to say I want to avoid both chemo and more surgery. I am already

on

> Day 5 of the 21-Day program and feel very optimistic about it but

am

> just looking for stories from those of you that have also gone thru

> this successfully.

>

> My family and friends are being pretty supportive but I know they

are

> concerned that I am not following the typical path. I think I need

> your stories more for them than for myself.

>

> Thanks and good health to all of you!

>

> Karyn Witzel

January 2, 2004

Hello, , thanks so much for taking the time to write. I really appreciated

your comments.

My sister told me about Dr. 's methods years ago so I have been a follower

for some time. I had my fillings replaced two years ago and have had a zapper

for even longer. I always try to be as healthy as possible but this was a

particularly stressful year and I think the combination of that as well as

nearly a year's worth of work that was being done my my apartment building

combined to undermine my health. Like you I had some other health issues that

pointed to potential problems, including a bad case of shingles in July.

I did consider not having surgery at all but I was originally told that my tumor

was very tiny, not invasive and was lobular - just confined to the milk ducts.

So I figured let's just get it out and then clean myself up. After the surgery

they told me they had removed a total of three tumors and my lymph node tests

proved positive. Now I do wish that I had simply started the clean up right

away and postponed the surgery but all I can do is move forward. But I

definitely do not want to have a full mastectomy or go thru chemo.

I am not doing plate zapping but I am following her 21-day program in The Cure

for Advanced Cancers. I am now on Day 8 and feeling very optimistic although it

is not easy! The sheer number of supplements you have to take is a bit

overwhelming but I am determined to get thru it.

In addition to your email I received several others from people that also swear

by Dr. 's methods. They have always made so much sense to me and I feel

much calmer and in control of my health then I would have if I had gone thru

chemo or had more surgery.

I will definitely join your discussion lists - thanks for the information. A

friend of mine had suggested some breast cancer support groups but I was

concerned about getting into one that was too negative and dwelled on the

illness. I want to focus only on being healthy.

Thanks again for taking the time to write. Happy New Year!

Karyn

zaprascal <maryw67686@...> wrote:

Hi Karyn,

I'm on my way out the door, so can't write much now, but wanted to

let you know you are definitely not alone.

More than 4 years ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer.

I had surgery, then refused all conventional treatment [knowing what

I know today, I would delay surgery and use Dr. 's methods to

shrink the tumor].

I had mercury posioning diagnosed by my doctor and had passed a 10

inch worm years several years before my cancer diagnosis.

I tried 3 other alternative cancer therapies that did nothing for me

before I found Dr. . It is more than 4 years since I started

her program.

Her methods are awesome. Are you using her plate zapping protocol

and homeography as outlined in her updated HIV book?

I have a discussion list devoted just to breast cancer survivors who

are using Dr. 's latest cancer program at bcproject on

if you would like to join us.

Warm regards,

PS...Several years ago another woman and I started up the

huldaclarkenthusiasts list which is also here on . Much of my

story over the years is posted there, starting with the very first

message.

> Hello everyone, I just joined this group today although I have been

a

> follower of Dr. 's for several years.

>

> I was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. I had a lumpectomy

but

> my lymph nodes and other tissue tests came back positive. Needless

> to say I want to avoid both chemo and more surgery. I am already

on

> Day 5 of the 21-Day program and feel very optimistic about it but

am

> just looking for stories from those of you that have also gone thru

> this successfully.

>

> My family and friends are being pretty supportive but I know they

are

> concerned that I am not following the typical path. I think I need

> your stories more for them than for myself.

>

> Thanks and good health to all of you!

>

> Karyn Witzel

January 2, 2004

Hi, Diane, thanks so much for your email and for sharing your story. I am sorry

that you had to lose your cervix but thank god for your boyfriend's aunt!

I definitely am glad that I am taking this route and with each new story I read

I feel more and more confident that this was the way to go. My sister told me

about Dr. years ago and it always made me feel so much more secure that if

anything like this ever did happen that I would be able to handle it.

I agree that it must be hard to watch your friends opt for chemo or surgery when

there are other life-saving options available to them. You would think that

seeing what you have gone thru would help to convince them but I guess everyone

has to make their own decisions about their health.

I will definitely check out the discussion lists you mentioned, thanks for the

info! I hope you had a very Happy New Year.

Karyn

Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: