Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 Hi micky, I don't usually do anything special, diet wise before the cleanse, other than that day, do just the no-fat stuff as recommended. What I *did* find, however, is if you jump into fatty food too soon (like later the next day or even the day after), you can push stones into the still somewhat relaxed bile ducts and blam, you have stuck stones again. (If this sounds like the voice of experience, you are right! *ack*) I did find though, a single dose of epsom salts will allow the bile build-up behind the stone to get by but again avoiding fatty foods will help keep it from repeating until you can do the next flush. Also doing the valarian herb did help me with a particularly annoying stuck stone, but it was like Dr. said. You have to do a lot of that stuff to have any effect. Others may have some ideas about what if any foods are better before. Annette > > new to the group...finishing up a parasite cleanse in two days...I > then plan to wait a week before the liver cleanse to clean up my > diet...organic apple juice/cider, stay away from meats, dairy and > fats...HOWEVER, I was diagnosed with RA 3 years ago (I am in > remission) and have been on a higher protein diet and try to stay away > from all grains- which seems to work...any suggestions as to what I > should eat the week prior to the liver cleanse?...thanks, micky > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Micky, I was also diagnosed with RA about 2 years ago. I have done everything under the sun in the holistic world. Have done liver cleanses, MANY. Would you mind telling us what has worked for you and in your opinion ultimately put you in remission. I am not in remission, although I have made amazing progress and have had periods in which I have felt completely " normal, " but I still have days here and there where I feel kind of lousy. My left wrist has really been bothering me lately. Thanks, Quote
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Posted March 22, 2006 Hi , I was wondering where you got your information about drinking the extra water, and did you mean that you do an extra dose of olive oil and grapefruit juice in the morning in addition to the dose you take before you go to bed? I also can't recall, does dr. recommend black walnut tincture? > Hi: > I have done 5 flushes and got hundreds of stones out. one as big as a dried up plum! > I find that it is important to drink a lot of water the morning of the cleanse before 2:00 pm because all that going potty really dehydrates you. also the next morning if you have one dose of epson and water at 6:00 am and at 8:00am 1/4 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup grapefruit juice and 20 drops of black walnut tincture and then at 10:00 am another dose of water and epson salt, I expell a ton more stones all day and even some the next day! it is twice as effective. A couple of times I felt maybe something getting stuck and I moved around turning to the right laying there for a while and then the left and it passed. I wonder when all the stones will be gone they just keep on coming like an invasion of green creatures! > Good luck! > > sandie55a <amhall@...> wrote: > Hi micky, > > I don't usually do anything special, diet wise before the cleanse, > other than that day, do just the no-fat stuff as recommended. What I > *did* find, however, is if you jump into fatty food too soon (like > later the next day or even the day after), you can push stones into > the still somewhat relaxed bile ducts and blam, you have stuck stones > again. (If this sounds like the voice of experience, you are right! > *ack*) > > I did find though, a single dose of epsom salts will allow the bile > build-up behind the stone to get by but again avoiding fatty foods > will help keep it from repeating until you can do the next flush. > Also doing the valarian herb did help me with a particularly annoying > stuck stone, but it was like Dr. said. You have to do a lot of > that stuff to have any effect. > > Others may have some ideas about what if any foods are better before. > > Annette > > > > > > new to the group...finishing up a parasite cleanse in two days...I > > then plan to wait a week before the liver cleanse to clean up my > > diet...organic apple juice/cider, stay away from meats, dairy and > > fats...HOWEVER, I was diagnosed with RA 3 years ago (I am in > > remission) and have been on a higher protein diet and try to stay away > > from all grains- which seems to work...any suggestions as to what I > > should eat the week prior to the liver cleanse?...thanks, micky > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 Thanks ! I saw my OMD, who I have gotten very interested in the cleanse, and I mentioned that you were doing this today. I think we are both going to try it on our next cleanse. Funny you should mention the dehydration thing. She said that she tried taking a bath on the day of the cleanse and got so dehydrated she could barely get out of the tub.. Thanks again for all your input! > Hi : > I started drinking extra water after I did 3 cleanses and I noticed that the next day I felt lousy. I came to the conclusion that I was dehydrated. So the next two times I drank a lot of water the morning before 2:00 and I felt much better afterwards. Yes, I do an extra dose the next day but I cut it in half and add the black walnut that dr. clark recomends for parasites. I got this Idea from one of the Dr. sites.Because apparently you flush out not only stones but also parasites so zap them right there. He He! Someone talked about it and I tried it. It works great. You get out a lot more stones.if I find the site, I will post it here so you can read it. Good Luck! > jhopman579 <jhopman579@...> wrote: > Hi , I was wondering where you got your information about > drinking the extra water, and did you mean that you do an extra dose > of olive oil and grapefruit juice in the morning in addition to the > dose you take before you go to bed? I also can't recall, does dr. > recommend black walnut tincture? > > > > > > Hi: > > I have done 5 flushes and got hundreds of stones out. one as big > as a dried up plum! > > I find that it is important to drink a lot of water the morning of > the cleanse before 2:00 pm because all that going potty really > dehydrates you. also the next morning if you have one dose of epson > and water at 6:00 am and at 8:00am 1/4 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup > grapefruit juice and 20 drops of black walnut tincture and then at > 10:00 am another dose of water and epson salt, I expell a ton more > stones all day and even some the next day! it is twice as effective. > A couple of times I felt maybe something getting stuck and I moved > around turning to the right laying there for a while and then the left > and it passed. I wonder when all the stones will be gone they just > keep on coming like an invasion of green creatures! > > Good luck! > > > > sandie55a <amhall@> wrote: > > Hi micky, > > > > I don't usually do anything special, diet wise before the cleanse, > > other than that day, do just the no-fat stuff as recommended. What I > > *did* find, however, is if you jump into fatty food too soon (like > > later the next day or even the day after), you can push stones into > > the still somewhat relaxed bile ducts and blam, you have stuck stones > > again. (If this sounds like the voice of experience, you are right! > > *ack*) > > > > I did find though, a single dose of epsom salts will allow the bile > > build-up behind the stone to get by but again avoiding fatty foods > > will help keep it from repeating until you can do the next flush. > > Also doing the valarian herb did help me with a particularly annoying > > stuck stone, but it was like Dr. said. You have to do a lot of > > that stuff to have any effect. > > > > Others may have some ideas about what if any foods are better before. > > > > Annette > > > > > > > > > > new to the group...finishing up a parasite cleanse in two days...I > > > then plan to wait a week before the liver cleanse to clean up my > > > diet...organic apple juice/cider, stay away from meats, dairy and > > > fats...HOWEVER, I was diagnosed with RA 3 years ago (I am in > > > remission) and have been on a higher protein diet and try to stay away > > > from all grains- which seems to work...any suggestions as to what I > > > should eat the week prior to the liver cleanse?...thanks, micky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 I have found I need to be a bit cautious about the extra water thing on the preflush-morning. The one time I did drink a lot more water than normal, I wound having to get up about an hour after going to bed to hit the bathroom again. I didn't do very well getting stones out that time either. Annette > > > > > > new to the group...finishing up a parasite cleanse in two days...I > > > then plan to wait a week before the liver cleanse to clean up my > > > diet...organic apple juice/cider, stay away from meats, dairy and > > > fats...HOWEVER, I was diagnosed with RA 3 years ago (I am in > > > remission) and have been on a higher protein diet and try to stay away > > > from all grains- which seems to work...any suggestions as to what I > > > should eat the week prior to the liver cleanse?...thanks, micky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 Micky, I don't think nuts would be a problem as much as fried foods, things with a lot of mayonaise, like salad dressings or, for example, a Casito Burrito with extra sour cream from TacoTime... you know, that kinda stuff. Annette > > > > new to the group...finishing up a parasite cleanse in two days...I > > then plan to wait a week before the liver cleanse to clean up my > > diet...organic apple juice/cider, stay away from meats, dairy and > > fats...HOWEVER, I was diagnosed with RA 3 years ago (I am in > > remission) and have been on a higher protein diet and try to stay away > > from all grains- which seems to work...any suggestions as to what I > > should eat the week prior to the liver cleanse?...thanks, micky > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 Hi ...yeah, I've done the kidney and parasite cleanse, actually a few times. I've already done the liver cleanse about 6-7 times..I've lost count. Have been pretty successful at getting out significant quantities of stones, but I am convinced I have quite a few left in there. Next time I am going to try the 1/2 dose of the grapefruit juice and olive oil in the morning, and see how that goes. Thanks for your help! Hi : > Just to make sure you know that I did the kidney and parasite cleanses before I did the liver cleanses. Dr. says this is very important! I believe she knows what she is doing. So please!!! go through all the steps. When I did the kidney cleanse I expelled blackish powder through my urine. I think that was a pulverized kidney stone. Imagine that. I went at this blind and got rid of a bunch of junk in my system. > Good luck > ps let me know how it goes! > linda > > jhopman579 <jhopman579@...> wrote: > Thanks ! I saw my OMD, who I have gotten very interested in the > cleanse, and I mentioned that you were doing this today. I think we > are both going to try it on our next cleanse. Funny you should mention > the dehydration thing. She said that she tried taking a bath on the > day of the cleanse and got so dehydrated she could barely get out of > the tub.. > Thanks again for all your input! > > > Hi : > > I started drinking extra water after I did 3 cleanses and I > noticed that the next day I felt lousy. I came to the conclusion that > I was dehydrated. So the next two times I drank a lot of water the > morning before 2:00 and I felt much better afterwards. Yes, I do an > extra dose the next day but I cut it in half and add the black walnut > that dr. clark recomends for parasites. I got this Idea from one of > the Dr. sites.Because apparently you flush out not only stones > but also parasites so zap them right there. He He! Someone talked > about it and I tried it. It works great. You get out a lot more > stones.if I find the site, I will post it here so you can read it. > Good Luck! > > jhopman579 <jhopman579@> wrote: > > Hi , I was wondering where you got your information about > > drinking the extra water, and did you mean that you do an extra dose > > of olive oil and grapefruit juice in the morning in addition to the > > dose you take before you go to bed? I also can't recall, does dr. > > recommend black walnut tincture? > > > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > I have done 5 flushes and got hundreds of stones out. one as big > > as a dried up plum! > > > I find that it is important to drink a lot of water the morning of > > the cleanse before 2:00 pm because all that going potty really > > dehydrates you. also the next morning if you have one dose of epson > > and water at 6:00 am and at 8:00am 1/4 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup > > grapefruit juice and 20 drops of black walnut tincture and then at > > 10:00 am another dose of water and epson salt, I expell a ton more > > stones all day and even some the next day! it is twice as effective. > > A couple of times I felt maybe something getting stuck and I moved > > around turning to the right laying there for a while and then the left > > and it passed. I wonder when all the stones will be gone they just > > keep on coming like an invasion of green creatures! > > > Good luck! > > > > > > sandie55a <amhall@> wrote: > > > Hi micky, > > > > > > I don't usually do anything special, diet wise before the cleanse, > > > other than that day, do just the no-fat stuff as recommended. What I > > > *did* find, however, is if you jump into fatty food too soon (like > > > later the next day or even the day after), you can push stones into > > > the still somewhat relaxed bile ducts and blam, you have stuck stones > > > again. (If this sounds like the voice of experience, you are right! > > > *ack*) > > > > > > I did find though, a single dose of epsom salts will allow the bile > > > build-up behind the stone to get by but again avoiding fatty foods > > > will help keep it from repeating until you can do the next flush. > > > Also doing the valarian herb did help me with a particularly annoying > > > stuck stone, but it was like Dr. said. You have to do a lot of > > > that stuff to have any effect. > > > > > > Others may have some ideas about what if any foods are better > before. > > > > > > Annette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new to the group...finishing up a parasite cleanse in two days...I > > > > then plan to wait a week before the liver cleanse to clean up my > > > > diet...organic apple juice/cider, stay away from meats, dairy and > > > > fats...HOWEVER, I was diagnosed with RA 3 years ago (I am in > > > > remission) and have been on a higher protein diet and try to > stay away > > > > from all grains- which seems to work...any suggestions as to what I > > > > should eat the week prior to the liver cleanse?...thanks, micky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
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