Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 You all know I was skeptical about the zapper, but I know my body and how it reacts to various things. I have been fighting some sort of cold/flu for about a week. I've gotten a sore throat and some congestion and after using the zapper 3 times a day 7 mins. on 20 mins. off, the symptoms just cleared up. I'm sure I'd have missed work before, but I have such faith in Dr. and her methods, there was none of that! The zapper has already paid for itself in terms of wages I would have lost. Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 Bill Ross wrote: << I've had cold and flu symptoms in the past myself. Usually it goes away in about a week without the zapper. What do you make of that? You don't really want to know! But since you ask.........I would say that you want *nothing* to do with the zapper, *because* it comes from Dr ! I have heard the same old, same old from all the debunkers. Hey, why don't we all just do *nothing*, after all most things go away ALL by themselves. Has Dr. done any randomized and blinded studies using a control group to see how the zapper performs in that situation? I dunno. Can you really trust that the air you breath is really there?? Any triple blind studies? Hey, take a chance, try it and see if it helps you. Can you make any moves without a double blind study........in a controlled setting? Seriously, cold and flu symptoms usually do go away on there own in a healthy person I believe. And a unhealthy person? Jan Bill Ross >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 CCs@... wrote: > You all know I was skeptical about the zapper, > but I know my body and how it reacts to various > things. I have been fighting some sort of cold/flu > for about a week. I've gotten a sore throat and > some congestion and after using the zapper > 3 times a day 7 mins. on 20 mins. off, the symptoms > just cleared up. I'm sure I'd have missed work before, but I have such > faith in Dr. and her > methods, there was none of that! > The zapper has already paid for itself in terms > of wages I would have lost. > > BTW, Bill Ross is being very disruptive here and > I think it would be best to ignore him and maybe > he'll go away like he said he was going to before. > > Peace, > OK , you ignored me pretty good there in your re-post. I've had cold and flu symptoms in the past myself. Usually it goes away in about a week without the zapper. What do you make of that? Has Dr. done any randomized and blinded studies using a control group to see how the zapper performs in that situation? Seriously, cold and flu symptoms usually do go away on there own in a healthy person I believe. Bill Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 A scientific evaluation of the zapper's effectiveness was done by J. Thiel, Ph.D., N.D. as reported at http://www..ch/news/news_frame.htm Thiel's methods were criticized by another Ph.D. at http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/hulda_clark.html I drew this criticism to Thiel's attention and he agreed to reply to the criticism. Thiel's reply is posted below the criticism. If Bill Ross wants to question the zapper, he might read Thiel's defence his methodology, then personally comment on that defence, other than to quote some quackbuster. Leo. > > << I've had cold and flu symptoms in the past myself. Usually it goes away > in about a week without the > zapper. What do you make of that? > > > You don't really want to know! But since you ask.........I would say that > you want *nothing* to do with the zapper, *because* it comes from Dr ! > I have heard the same old, same old from all the debunkers. Hey, why don't we > all just do *nothing*, after all most things go away ALL by themselves. > > > > Has Dr. done any randomized and blinded studies using a control > group to see how the zapper performs in that situation? > > > > I dunno. Can you really trust that the air you breath is really there?? Any > triple blind studies? Hey, take a chance, try it and see if it helps you. Can > you make any moves without a double blind study........in a controlled > setting? > > > Seriously, cold and flu symptoms usually do go > away on there own in a healthy person I believe. > > > And a unhealthy person? > > Jan > > > > > Bill Ross >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 In the interests of being clear on my " story " . The sore throat and congestion would return every morning for the past five days and this week-end some. They would stay with me until I zapped. I'd use the zapper and the symptoms would go away. I still haven't done the dental clean-up which could probably cause this to happen, I don't know. The zapper beats anything MODERN SCIENCE has at the moment. And that my friends is the truth. FWIW, CCs@... wrote: You all know I was skeptical about the zapper, but I know my body and how it reacts to various things. I have been fighting some sort of cold/flu for about a week. I've gotten a sore throat and some congestion and after using the zapper 3 times a day 7 mins. on 20 mins. off, the symptoms just cleared up. I'm sure I'd have missed work before, but I have such faith in Dr. and her methods, there was none of that! The zapper has already paid for itself in terms of wages I would have lost. BTW, Bill Ross is being very disruptive here and I think it would be best to ignore him and maybe he'll go away like he said he was going to before. Peace, OK , you ignored me pretty good there in your re-post. I've had cold and flu symptoms in the past myself. Usually it goes away in about a week without the zapper. What do you make of that? Has Dr. done any randomized and blinded studies using a control group to see how the zapper performs in that situation? Seriously, cold and flu symptoms usually do go away on there own in a healthy person I believe. Bill Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 Leo, Thank you sir, for supplying me with the following information. I read it all, and it was very informative. I was very impressed with both Dr. Thiel, and Dr. Pappas(?) of Ohio State University. They come across as very intelligent and qualified clinicians. Their exchange of words was very professional, even though they are not in agreement. I think that is encouraging. I wish it were more conclusive, as we are left with two clinicians in disagreement, and it is up to us to try and decide who is right. I admit, I don't know, and am not qualified to understand all the details. I thought Dr. Pappas expressed the scientific method very well, and had valid criticisms of Thiel's trial. But then Dr. Thiel responded with some very good points of his own. My main criticism of Dr. is her claim to have " the cure for all diseases. " Your references do not address that directly, but they do address the zapper issue in a constructive way. I thank you again very much for that. Bill Ross Regehr@... wrote: > A scientific evaluation of the zapper's effectiveness was done by > J. Thiel, Ph.D., N.D. as reported at > http://www..ch/news/news_frame.htm > Thiel's methods were criticized by another Ph.D. at > http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/hulda_clark.html > I drew this criticism to Thiel's attention and he agreed to reply to > the criticism. Thiel's reply is posted below the criticism. > > If Bill Ross wants to question the zapper, he might read Thiel's > defence his methodology, then personally comment on that defence, > other than to quote some quackbuster. > Leo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2000 Report Share Posted May 9, 2000 l have a zapper and a bug bit me on my eyebrow bone..now my eye is very swollen and my lymphs are too.on my jaw and around my neck...will a zapper be effective iwth this? where would be the best place to wear it? thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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