Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Shefy, I don't know what the test is you are talking about, and I'm all for non invasive diagnotics, but it you don't want to go for the test, then do what you need to cleanse out that colon and see how you feel. If you are that clogged, the epsom salts should do a good job, getting things moving. Other options are to drink Traditional Medicinals Smoothe Move Tea. I really works in about 6-8 hours. You might feel icky as things loosen up and start moving, but you can get through it. Those rocks could be large gall stones, that couldn't get through your colon. Another option is something I have used for a long time, daily. It is called Super Colon Cleanse by Nature's Secret. I just take one tablet in the morning, daily. There are 'hot' herbs in this formula and it does a great job of gently cleaning things out, layer by layer. After taking this daily for several months, I started to pass mucoid plaque, just a small amount, but I never thought I would see that come out of me. Lastly, take a 500 mg magnesium capsule nightly. This ensures a bm every morning, and a good one at that! You should have as many movements as you have meals, 12-24 hours after the meal. The way I test my timing is to eat 1/2 cup of corn kernals and see how soon I pass them. If needed take some magnesium with every meal. Too much magnesium will result in loose stools, so if you don't have the issue, then your body needs the extra magnesium and you are doing a good thing. You can get a large bottle of it from vitacost.com for about $10. Eat an apple every day, the malic acid helps to soften gall stones, the fiber helps create a good bm, and it is nourishing. Psyllium Husk mixed in water or taken as a capsule once a day is another way to add roughage to your diet and cleanse the colon. Drink lots and lots of pure water so that it will gel and create a smoothe bowel movement. Add a second capsule later in the day after things are moving along nicely, and then add a third towards the end of the day if you are not having problems with bms. As time goes by, you will have regular movements if you take the steps to clean out your colon and keep it that way. I recall you saying money was an issue and the things I mentioned above are all inexpensive from several sources on the web, so check out vitacost.com, iherb.com, greatvitaminprices.com, and vitaminshoppe.com for the best deals. Stay away from Zelnorm!! Only use natural products that benefit your body and use the one's that work, such as all the things I have mentioned. At this point I would stay away from clay based bowel cleanses to avoid the clay possibley getting trapped by a clogged colon, but if things are working for you, then go for it because the clay can absorb toxins and chemicals in the colon and remove them. Start very slowly if you decide to use clays. Good luck to you! Diane shefy7 wrote: >I had my first colonic today and it went pretty well. I was planning >on getting a sigmoidoscopy done, but now I'm not sure. Why ? Because I >do have a bm everyday, but it's usually small and flat. I thought >maybe there is a polyp or tumor squeezing it....BUT...(don't read if >you don't want to it's kind of gross....) > >During the colonic HUGE rock like balls came out in the tube...Gross I >know...They were almost the size of golf balls. The therapist also >said there was a lot of sediment bc it was sitting at the bottom of >the tube...I started feeling flushed so I couldn't prop up to see...I >only was able to do about 4 releases, she said I am really clogged up. > > >So...I'm thinking that since these balls came out round and not flat >like 50% of my bm's do...it couldn't be anything wrong with my >colon... I'm just thinking after doing tons of research and a lot of >tests that there is nothing wrong...I really don't want to have to go >through this procedure...It's just that there of course is a risk >involved, I know it's very rare and small, but still there is a >risk...I value all your opinions so much, what do you all think? Any >opinions on Zelnorm? > >Thanks and hope all of you are getting better! >Shefy > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Diane: Good advice. What do you think of colonics? Maybe more are needed if Shefy's colon is that backed up. I think Dr. warned that there is a risk of bacteria when doing colonics, however. Shefy: I totally agree with what Diane said. I take even more Magnesium citrate than she recommended. My naturopath said to take 3- 5 at night (that's a ton). Another product recommended by my naturopath is Colon Hx (I think it's by Invite Health). I would strongly urge you to stay away from drugs--it's just one more thing your liver has to break down/process. There are easier & more inexpensive ways of succeeding. Best of luck, Lorna > > >I had my first colonic today and it went pretty well. I was planning > >on getting a sigmoidoscopy done, but now I'm not sure. Why ? Because I > >do have a bm everyday, but it's usually small and flat. I thought > >maybe there is a polyp or tumor squeezing it....BUT...(don't read if > >you don't want to it's kind of gross....) > > > >During the colonic HUGE rock like balls came out in the tube...Gross I > >know...They were almost the size of golf balls. The therapist also > >said there was a lot of sediment bc it was sitting at the bottom of > >the tube...I started feeling flushed so I couldn't prop up to see...I > >only was able to do about 4 releases, she said I am really clogged up. > > > > > >So...I'm thinking that since these balls came out round and not flat > >like 50% of my bm's do...it couldn't be anything wrong with my > >colon... I'm just thinking after doing tons of research and a lot of > >tests that there is nothing wrong...I really don't want to have to go > >through this procedure...It's just that there of course is a risk > >involved, I know it's very rare and small, but still there is a > >risk...I value all your opinions so much, what do you all think? Any > >opinions on Zelnorm? > > > >Thanks and hope all of you are getting better! > >Shefy > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Posted March 26, 2006 Shefy, I can only relate the experience of 2 of my sons, who were kids then. They had encopresis, which sorta describes what you have. My youngest, now 11, still struggles with it since he rides the school bus 2 hours in the morning and 1.5 hrs home. Then he sits in school. He has a fear of public toilets (he's high-functioning autistic). Encopresis is simply constipation piled upon constipation, to the point that the elastic colon stretches to accomodate the ever increasing growing mass of compacted waste. Softer material coming down the colon gets around the clog, hence the softer flat stool. The doctor's course of treatment.. mineral oil and laxatives such as Miralax. For better suggestions, I'd start with epsom salt baths, drink lots and lots of water, exercise more especially walking, and eat plenty of fresh organic fruits and vegatables. Take Vitamin C, calcium and MSM supplements and essential fatty acids. Eat fresh wild salmon. Mineral oil is not a naturalist way of getting unplugged, although it lubricates the colon it also blocks absorbtion of nutrients from your food in the small intestine. Cows milk and dairy is often the culprit. So avoid milk and pizza (cheeses in other words) until you get this under control. MSM is a cousin to Epsom salts (sulfur family) and these help with adding mucous to the lining of the colon. This will also help lubricate your joints, which after age 35 or so you will appreciate that. As for the sigmoidoscopy, unless you are around 45 or so, I'd put it off until you are cleaned out, your colon repaired (stretch gone down to normal) and then see if you think it is still necessary. Good luck. shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote: I had my first colonic today and it went pretty well. I was planning on getting a sigmoidoscopy done, but now I'm not sure. Why ? Because I do have a bm everyday, but it's usually small and flat. I thought maybe there is a polyp or tumor squeezing it....BUT...(don't read if you don't want to it's kind of gross....) During the colonic HUGE rock like balls came out in the tube...Gross I know...They were almost the size of golf balls. The therapist also said there was a lot of sediment bc it was sitting at the bottom of the tube...I started feeling flushed so I couldn't prop up to see...I only was able to do about 4 releases, she said I am really clogged up. So...I'm thinking that since these balls came out round and not flat like 50% of my bm's do...it couldn't be anything wrong with my colon... I'm just thinking after doing tons of research and a lot of tests that there is nothing wrong...I really don't want to have to go through this procedure...It's just that there of course is a risk involved, I know it's very rare and small, but still there is a risk...I value all your opinions so much, what do you all think? Any opinions on Zelnorm? Thanks and hope all of you are getting better! Shefy Quote
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