Food Combining

May 16, 1999

Hi ,

I don't know the Hay Diet book by Jackie Habgood.

I have read 'Food Combining for Health' by Doris Grant and Joice, ISBN

0 7225 0882 4. I found this very useful and would recommend it to anyone

wanting to give the Hay Diet a try - or make it a way of life, as I have

done.

Regards

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> From: <jackson@...>

> bowel cleanseonelist

> Subject: Food Combining

> Date: 16 May 1999 10:11

>

> From: <jackson@...>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thanks for detailing some of your routine. I was recently reading a

> book called A Holistic Protocol for the Immune System by

> who said about candidiasis that " Due to poor food combining (mixing

> sugars and proteins,

> starches and proteins, carbohydrates and sugars, etc.) digestion is

> interrupted. " I have read about food-combining for years, but never

> really gotten a grip on it on practicing it. I have been erratic about

> meal scheduling perhaps because I don't wear a watch. I was looking up

> the Hay Diet on the Internet and saw a book by Jackie Habgood. Are you

> familiar with that and do you recommend it?

>

> The Sedona method sounds interesting--I will have to look into that

> too.

> J.

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March 1, 2001

good grief - I just re-read this and I said my hubby was 'the one' who

discovered this food combining!!!!!!!! I meant in OUR household... yikes....

wendy

questions

>

>Hi and everyone

>

>, can I ask you a question off list please as it is quite personal.

>Also - durum wheat is still refined wheat and if you have a problem with

>wheat, don't have this type either.

>

>What are adrenal surges? After eating my lunch, no matter what I eat

>usually, I get that tired feeling come over me, then the headache sets in.

>Tonight it was after dinner. I don't think it's food related as sometimes

I

>can eat a certain food and it doesn't have any effect, other times it does

>seem to, which is why I don't think its always food related. I think maybe

>digestion takes energy, and since by body is already stressed, it's just

one

>more stress, and by lunchtime I am more tired that when I waken, and hence,

>a headache.

>

>Does anyone else have this scenario? I wonder if the adrenals are

>responsible for this in some way.

>

>I think sometimes when we have such a busy life, our bodies are constantly

>stressed, and we don't recognise it. I am sure this is me. I push myself

>and my body and fail to recognise when it's stressed because that's the

>state it is always in. Does that make sense? I do know that the B vitamins

>help with stress, but I cannot remember what the connection to the adrenals

>they have. Could someone remind me?

>

>I looked into the products you mentioned . Cannot get Iso Cort here.

>The person at Vita Fit said that they would be VERY expensive to make.

>Don't forget that New Zealand dollars are triple the UK dollar, and twice

>plus some for American. So If you paid $20 for a product - that's $60 here

>in NZ. I could get Molybdenum made up @ $60 for 360 capsules. How does

>that compare to yours? I could get something here to help my adrenals, do

>you think this would help - it wouldn't effect the adrenal cortex though,

>what do you think, is it worth it?

>

>After sex - well personal but relevant. My endometriosis is worse after

>sex. Sex seems to help the vaginal itching for a day or two. I think it

>has something to do with the PH balance being changed, if you get my drift!

>Wouldn't apply to men obviously.

>

>Oh well, hope you can answer my 120 questions.

>

>Love .

>

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May 11, 2001

What about beans, they are starch and protiens?

LIZ D

food combining

By Dr. Herbert M. Shelton Reprinted from Dr. Shelton's Hygienic Review

There are sound physiological reasons for eating foods in compatible combinations. In other words, some foods, if mixed in the digestive system, will cause distress! The principles of food combining are dictated by digestive chemistry. Different foods are digested differently. Starchy foods require an alkaline digestive medium which is supplied initially in the mouth by the enzyme ptyalin. Protein foods require an acid medium for digestion- hydrochloric acid.

As any student of chemistry will assure you, acids and bases (alkalis) neutralize each other. If you eat a starch with a protein, digestion is impaired or completely arrested! The undigested food mass can cause various kinds of digestive disorders. Undigested food becomes soil for bacteria which ferment and decompose it. Its by products are poisonous, one of which, alcohol, is a narcotic that destroys or inhibits nerve function. It plays havoc with nerves of the digestive tract, suspending their vital action such that constipation may well be a result! As set forth in Dr. Herbert Shelton's FOOD COMBINING MADE EASY these are the salient rules for proper food combining.

The Basic Rules of Proper Food Combining:

1. Eat acids and starches at separate meals. Acids neutralize the alkaline medium required for starch digestion and the result is fermentation and indigestion.

2. Eat protein foods and carbohydrate foods at separate meals. Protein foods require an acid medium for digestion.

3. Eat but one kind of protein food at a meal.

4. Eat proteins and acid foods at separate meals. The acids of acid foods inhibit the secretion of the digestive acids required for protein digestion. Undigested protein putrefies in bacterial decomposition and produces some potent poisons.

5. Eat fats and proteins at separate meals. Some foods, especially nuts, are over 50% fat and require hours for digestion.

6. Eat sugars (fruits) and proteins at separate meals.

7. Eat sugars (fruits) and starchy foods at separate meals. Fruits undergo no digestion in the stomach and are held up if eaten with foods that require digestion in the stomach.

8. Eat melons alone. They combine with almost no other food.

9. Desert the desserts. Eaten on top of meals they lie heavy on the stomach, requiring no digestion there, and ferment. Bacteria turn them into alcohols and vinegars and acetic acids.

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December 18, 2002

The best book I have come across is " Food Combining for Health " by Jean

Joyce & Doris Grant. It contains all relevant info, plus some recipes.

They also have a cookbook out as well.

Hope this helps.

Nickie

Message: 20

Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:17:17 -0800 (PST)

From: " N.D. " <naturedestroyed@...>

Subject: Re: Re: food combinination.. russ' protocol, etc

Hi everyone,

I have been on Russ treatment for about 10 days now and it has helped me,

but

something has helped me much more in the last 3-4 days.. food combining! i

never

paid attention to that before eventho i knew it was part of candida

treatment,

it was a huge mistake, i so wish i had learned about combining 6 months ago

when

i started dieting, i could be cured by now.

So i fully agree with Dave, do not dismiss food combining and rely only on

commercial products, i'm even considering stopping Russ treatment to see if

i

can get cured naturally with dieting and combining only. Antifungals only

ease

symptoms, a balanced alkaline body is the way to go methinks (well in my

case

anyway).

Think about it, if you're like me and never took antibiotics and you suspect

you

have candida because your body isn't alkaline enough, there are no products

in

the world that will help you. You just need to stop doing what you did wrong

all

these years and the body will heal itself.

Does anyone know what are the best books on food combining?

Much thanks to the person who brought up pH and food combining last week.

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January 21, 2005

I'd say yes. I've had no problems doing so.

Zack

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, angelreceiver wrote:

>

> Can we combine proteins and the allowed grains/carbs on this

> program? Please tell me yes, lol!

>

January 21, 2005

>

> Can we combine proteins and the allowed grains/carbs on this

> program? Please tell me yes, lol!

Hi, the " food combining theory " is not valid and has a lot of

inaccuracies on how the body functions. The authors have back-

peddled since writing their book on it. Eat any combination of foods

you wish, but do include " good " fats and sea salt which aid digestion.

Bee

February 4, 2008

Hi all.

I am new to this group and just starting to investigate the BED diet.

It seems most of you follow the GAPS diet.

Just wondering if any of you have any comments about food combining

and if it was helpful in your healing process. I have had digestive

trouble for a long time and have taken many alternative paths. I still

suffer from poor digestion and thought (even though I dread it) trying

food combining to reduce, acid, gas and bloat.

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thank you.

Lynn

March 5, 2009

After I cut out refined sugars from my diet and started taking probiotics to

combat my candidiasis, I tried food combining and it did help me control my

symptoms to some extent. However, I have to be honest. It was not until I also

cut out starchy carbohydrates [i.e., rice, grains, grain products (i.e., whole

wheat pasta), corn, corn products, potatoes (incl. sweet), sweet fruits, all

juice, etc.] that I really started to significantly heal my gut and eliminate my

candidiasis symptoms.

-

> >

> > From: NieeMA <nieema0@>

> > Subject: Food Combining

> > candidiasis

> > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 10:41 AM

> >

> > This is a conversation to have!

> >

> > If you start out with the right combining, you will have less trouble in

your diets/food choices.

> >

> > SECRETS OF FOOD COMBINING

> > Digestion is not merely a chemical or physical process, but also a

physiological one. When food enters the body, it undergoes several changes

before it is broken down into its constituent parts & assimilated. But no food

can be assimilated by the system & used by various organs unless it has first

been digested & then absorbed in the digestive system while the residue, unfit

for absorption is eliminated from the system.

> > The chemical part of digestion is accomplished by a series of juices &

> > their enzymes. The juices alternate between alkali & acids, & their

character is determined by the requirement of the enzymes they contain. These

enzymes remain active in suitable media of well defined acid-alkali ranges & are

destroyed in unsuitable media.

> > For instance, starch splitting enzyme of the mouth is active only in

alkaline medium & is destroyed by a mild acid. The gastric enzyme, pepsin,

which initiates the protein digestion, is active only in acid medium & is

destroyed by alkalies.

> > There is a marked tendency to gastro intestinal fermentation with certain

combinations of foods. There is no fermentation & digestion will be much more

satisfactory when foods comprising a meal are of the same type. This means

eating similar foods at one time in order to accomplish the most complete

digestion.

> > The most important rule for combining foods to avoid mixing protein &

carbohydrates concentrated foods. Although every food contains some protein,

those regarded as protein concentrated foods demands the longest digestive

time. They are held in stomach for some hours until the gastric juices has

performed its task. This may vary from 2 hrs to 6 hrs, depending upon the

complexity of the protein in the food. If the protein food is mixed with

starch-concentrated or sugar-concentrated foods, it usually results in

fermentation. This may lead to indigestion & gas in stomach.

> > Animal-food proteins, such as meats, cheese & fish, require very high

concentration of hydrochloric acid. Their gastric digestion will be greatly

inhibited by carbohydrate fermentation in the stomach. This will produce more

gas & increased discomfort. Eating meat, potatoes, bread & sweets should,

therefore, be especially avoided.

> > Protein foods are best digested when eaten with fresh vegetable

> > salad. Primary protein foods such as nuts, seeds & soyabeans also combine

very well with acid fruits like oranges, pineapple, grapefruit & lemons, &

fairly well with sub-acid fruits, like grapes, pears, apples, berries, apricots

& peaches. These vegetables & fruits are rich natural sources of vitamin C

which aid protein digestion.

> > The second important rule food combining is to avoid mixing fats & proteins

at the same meal. Fat in foods inhibits the secretion of gastric juices through

the small wall. Thus when fat-concentrated foods are taken with protein foods,

gastric catabolism will decrease by the degree of lipid concentration in the

stomach. Fat will remain undigested in the stomach until gastric juices

complete their work on the complex protein molecules.

> > Although all primary protein foods contain high concentration of fat, such

lipid will be held in suspension, awaiting catabolism in the intestine, without

impeding gastric action. Free fats like oil, butter & milk tends to coat the

gastric mucosa, thereby inhibiting its effort to secrete gastric juice. Fat

surrounding the fried foods is also regarded as free fat & it interferes with

gastric catabolism.

> > Another important rule for food combining is to avoid mixing carbohydrates &

acid fruits in the same meal. The starch splitting enzyme Ptyalin in the saliva

plays an important role as the food is chewed. It converts complex starch

molecules into simpler sugars. Ptyalin requires neutral or slightly alkaline

medium for proper functioning & this is the normal condition of the saliva in

the mouth. However when acid foods are taken , the action of ptyalin is

halted. It is therefore necessary, to avoid acid fruits in the same meal as

sweet fruits or starches. Thus tomatoes should not be eaten with starches

especially potato or bread.

> > Refined sugar products are also acidic, both in the mouth & the

bloodstream. The acidifying of the saliva by sucrose is one of the main causes

of the tooth decay. It can lso cause severe damage to the digestion.

> > In a nutshell, starches, fats, green vegetables & sugars may be eaten

together as they require either an alkaline or neutral medium for their

digestion. Similarly, proteins, green vegetables & acid fruits may be taken

together as they require an acid or neutral medium for their digestion. But

starches & proteins, fats & proteins & starches & acid fruits should not be

eaten together., if the best results are required from the ingestion of the food

eaten.

> > Another important point to remember about meals is that

> > the smaller the number of courses they consist of, the better it will be. A

meal consisting of proteins, carbohydrates & fats may remain in the stomach for

6-7 hrs before the stomach is emptied. If the carbohydrates are eaten without

proteins, they remain in the stomach for relatively short period. A fruit meal

remains in the stomach for even shorter time. It is advisable to eat these

different foods at different meals- a fruit meal, a starch meal & a protein

meal. The ideal practice is a fruit meal for breakfast, a starch meal with

salad & non starchy vegetables for lunch & a protein meal with a salad & non

starchy vegetables for dinner.

> > Food Combining Chart

> >

> > Food Groups

> > Proteins

> >

> > Fats

> > Starches

> > Vegetables

> > Sweet fruits

> > Sub-acid fruits

> > Acid fruits

> >

> > Proteins

> > Good

> > Poor

> > Good

> > Poor

> > Fair

> > Good

> >

> > Fats

> > Poor

> > Good

> > Fair

> > Good

> > Fair

> >

> > Starches

> > Poor

> > Fair

> > Good

> > Fair

> > Poor

> >

> > Vegetables

> > Good

> > Poor

> >

> > Sweet Fruits

> > Poor

> > Fair

> > Poor

> > Good

> > Poor

> >

> > Sub-acid fruits

> > Fair

> > Poor

> > Good

> >

> > Acid fruits

> > Good

> > Fair

> > Poor

> > Good

> > Proteins: Nuts, seeds, soyabeans, cheese, eggs, meat, fish,

yogurt.

> > Fats: Oils, olive, butter, margarine.

> > Starches: Whole cereals, peas, beans, lentils.

> > Vegetables: Leafy green vegetables, sprouted seeds, cabbage,

cauliflower, broccoli,

> > green peas, celery, tomatoes, onions.

> > Sweet fruits: Bananas, figs, custard apples, all dried fruits,

dates.

> > Sub-acid fruits: Grapes, pear, apples, peaches, apricots, plums,

guavas, raspberries.

> > Acid fruits: Grapefruit, lemons, oranges, limes, pineapple,

strawberries.

> > Home Eco-Food Eco-Health Eco Food Treats - Ordering Centre

Beverages

> > Soups Dips & Chutneys Salads Steamed Delights Baked

Delights Rice Preparations

> > Cereals Sweets Sprout Yogurts Calorie Content Protein

Content

> > Digestion of food Raw Juice Therapy Food & Nutrients

Vegetarianism

> >

March 9, 2009

, the best thing you can do is tell a lot of people about getting off

carbs like you've just done on this group. Some still think they can do it

without dietary change.

all good,

Duncan

> > >

> > > From: NieeMA <nieema0@>

> > > Subject: Food Combining

> > > candidiasis

> > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 10:41 AM

> > >

> > > This is a conversation to have!

> > >

> > > If you start out with the right combining, you will have less trouble in

your diets/food choices.

> > >

> > > SECRETS OF FOOD COMBINING

> > > Digestion is not merely a chemical or physical process, but also a

physiological one. When food enters the body, it undergoes several changes

before it is broken down into its constituent parts & assimilated. But no food

can be assimilated by the system & used by various organs unless it has first

been digested & then absorbed in the digestive system while the residue, unfit

for absorption is eliminated from the system.

> > > The chemical part of digestion is accomplished by a series of juices &

> > > their enzymes. The juices alternate between alkali & acids, & their

character is determined by the requirement of the enzymes they contain. These

enzymes remain active in suitable media of well defined acid-alkali ranges & are

destroyed in unsuitable media.

> > > For instance, starch splitting enzyme of the mouth is active only in

alkaline medium & is destroyed by a mild acid. The gastric enzyme, pepsin,

which initiates the protein digestion, is active only in acid medium & is

destroyed by alkalies.

> > > There is a marked tendency to gastro intestinal fermentation with certain

combinations of foods. There is no fermentation & digestion will be much more

satisfactory when foods comprising a meal are of the same type. This means

eating similar foods at one time in order to accomplish the most complete

digestion.

> > > The most important rule for combining foods to avoid mixing protein &

carbohydrates concentrated foods. Although every food contains some protein,

those regarded as protein concentrated foods demands the longest digestive

time. They are held in stomach for some hours until the gastric juices has

performed its task. This may vary from 2 hrs to 6 hrs, depending upon the

complexity of the protein in the food. If the protein food is mixed with

starch-concentrated or sugar-concentrated foods, it usually results in

fermentation. This may lead to indigestion & gas in stomach.

> > > Animal-food proteins, such as meats, cheese & fish, require very high

concentration of hydrochloric acid. Their gastric digestion will be greatly

inhibited by carbohydrate fermentation in the stomach. This will produce more

gas & increased discomfort. Eating meat, potatoes, bread & sweets should,

therefore, be especially avoided.

> > > Protein foods are best digested when eaten with fresh vegetable

> > > salad. Primary protein foods such as nuts, seeds & soyabeans also combine

very well with acid fruits like oranges, pineapple, grapefruit & lemons, &

fairly well with sub-acid fruits, like grapes, pears, apples, berries, apricots

& peaches. These vegetables & fruits are rich natural sources of vitamin C

which aid protein digestion.

> > > The second important rule food combining is to avoid mixing fats &

proteins at the same meal. Fat in foods inhibits the secretion of gastric

juices through the small wall. Thus when fat-concentrated foods are taken with

protein foods, gastric catabolism will decrease by the degree of lipid

concentration in the stomach. Fat will remain undigested in the stomach until

gastric juices complete their work on the complex protein molecules.

> > > Although all primary protein foods contain high concentration of fat, such

lipid will be held in suspension, awaiting catabolism in the intestine, without

impeding gastric action. Free fats like oil, butter & milk tends to coat the

gastric mucosa, thereby inhibiting its effort to secrete gastric juice. Fat

surrounding the fried foods is also regarded as free fat & it interferes with

gastric catabolism.

> > > Another important rule for food combining is to avoid mixing carbohydrates

& acid fruits in the same meal. The starch splitting enzyme Ptyalin in the

saliva plays an important role as the food is chewed. It converts complex

starch molecules into simpler sugars. Ptyalin requires neutral or slightly

alkaline medium for proper functioning & this is the normal condition of the

saliva in the mouth. However when acid foods are taken , the action of ptyalin

is halted. It is therefore necessary, to avoid acid fruits in the same meal as

sweet fruits or starches. Thus tomatoes should not be eaten with starches

especially potato or bread.

> > > Refined sugar products are also acidic, both in the mouth & the

bloodstream. The acidifying of the saliva by sucrose is one of the main causes

of the tooth decay. It can lso cause severe damage to the digestion.

> > > In a nutshell, starches, fats, green vegetables & sugars may be eaten

together as they require either an alkaline or neutral medium for their

digestion. Similarly, proteins, green vegetables & acid fruits may be taken

together as they require an acid or neutral medium for their digestion. But

starches & proteins, fats & proteins & starches & acid fruits should not be

eaten together., if the best results are required from the ingestion of the food

eaten.

> > > Another important point to remember about meals is that

> > > the smaller the number of courses they consist of, the better it will be.

A meal consisting of proteins, carbohydrates & fats may remain in the stomach

for 6-7 hrs before the stomach is emptied. If the carbohydrates are eaten

without proteins, they remain in the stomach for relatively short period. A

fruit meal remains in the stomach for even shorter time. It is advisable to eat

these different foods at different meals- a fruit meal, a starch meal & a

protein meal. The ideal practice is a fruit meal for breakfast, a starch meal

with salad & non starchy vegetables for lunch & a protein meal with a salad &

non starchy vegetables for dinner.

> > > Food Combining Chart

> > >

> > > Food Groups

> > > Proteins

> > >

> > > Fats

> > > Starches

> > > Vegetables

> > > Sweet fruits

> > > Sub-acid fruits

> > > Acid fruits

> > >

> > > Proteins

> > > Good

> > > Poor

> > > Good

> > > Poor

> > > Fair

> > > Good

> > >

> > > Fats

> > > Poor

> > > Good

> > > Fair

> > > Good

> > > Fair

> > >

> > > Starches

> > > Poor

> > > Fair

> > > Good

> > > Fair

> > > Poor

> > >

> > > Vegetables

> > > Good

> > > Poor

> > >

> > > Sweet Fruits

> > > Poor

> > > Fair

> > > Poor

> > > Good

> > > Poor

> > >

> > > Sub-acid fruits

> > > Fair

> > > Poor

> > > Good

> > >

> > > Acid fruits

> > > Good

> > > Fair

> > > Poor

> > > Good

> > > Proteins: Nuts, seeds, soyabeans, cheese, eggs, meat, fish,

yogurt.

> > > Fats: Oils, olive, butter, margarine.

> > > Starches: Whole cereals, peas, beans, lentils.

> > > Vegetables: Leafy green vegetables, sprouted seeds, cabbage,

cauliflower, broccoli,

> > > green peas, celery, tomatoes, onions.

> > > Sweet fruits: Bananas, figs, custard apples, all dried fruits,

dates.

> > > Sub-acid fruits: Grapes, pear, apples, peaches, apricots, plums,

guavas, raspberries.

> > > Acid fruits: Grapefruit, lemons, oranges, limes, pineapple,

strawberries.

> > > Home Eco-Food Eco-Health Eco Food Treats - Ordering Centre

Beverages

> > > Soups Dips & Chutneys Salads Steamed Delights Baked

Delights Rice Preparations

> > > Cereals Sweets Sprout Yogurts Calorie Content

Protein Content

> > > Digestion of food Raw Juice Therapy Food & Nutrients

Vegetarianism

> > >

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