Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Welcome to the group. What shall we call you? Roni --- storme_nights28 <storme_nights28@...> wrote: > Good Morning Everyone I'm new to the group, I hope > everyone has a > wonderful day.... > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Welcome, I think you will find this group very helpful. Do you have Hashi's? Let us know how you are doing. Venizia > > Good Morning Everyone I'm new to the group, I hope everyone has a > wonderful day.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I know this post wasn't directed at me, but, can u plz explain to me what " Hashi's " is? thanks for your input. Re: Hello Welcome, I think you will find this group very helpful. Do you have Hashi's? Let us know how you are doing. Venizia > > Good Morning Everyone I'm new to the group, I hope everyone has a > wonderful day.... > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Sure, if i miss anything, please anyone step in. Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the leading cause of hypothyroidism. Hashi's causes gradual destruction of the thyroid gland and leads to an underactive gland. It is an autoimmune disease. A very short explanation. Maybe someone can add more. Chuck? Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , Kroitzsch <lisakroitzsch@...> wrote: > > I know this post wasn't directed at me, but, can u plz explain to me what " Hashi's " is? thanks for your input. > > > Re: Hello > > Welcome, > > I think you will find this group very helpful. Do you have Hashi's? Let us know how you > are doing. > > Venizia > > > > > > Good Morning Everyone I'm new to the group, I hope everyone has a > > wonderful day.... > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Venizia, You said it all. I can't improve on perfection. - Chuck > > Sure, if i miss anything, please anyone step in. > > Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the leading cause of hypothyroidism. Hashi's > causes gradual destruction of the thyroid gland and leads to an underactive gland. It > is an autoimmune disease. A very short explanation. Maybe someone can add more. Chuck? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Only a minor quibble. Hashimoto's causes gradual destruction of the thyroid gland as you said; but the ultimate result is not an underactive gland but an inactive gland. Or maybe it's not so much an inactive gland as the gland no longer exists??? At least that's my understanding... > > Re: Hello > <hypothyroidism/message/30745;_ylc=X3oDMTJxYWpyYzV\ xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzA3NDUEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4NzQyODcxMw--> > > > > Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@... > <mailto:gumboyaya@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hello> > gumbo482001 <gumbo482001> > > > Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:13 pm (PST) > > Venizia, > > You said it all. I can't improve on perfection. - Chuck > > > > > Sure, if i miss anything, please anyone step in. > > > > Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the leading cause of hypothyroidism. Hashi's > > causes gradual destruction of the thyroid gland and leads to an > underactive gland. It > > is an autoimmune disease. A very short explanation. Maybe someone > can add more. Chuck? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 , In a sense, I think, both are correct. The underactive state requires substantial treatment, which encourages the transition to fully inactive. This can take years, though. The pattern with familial or idiopathic hypoT is similar, but the transition is usually more sudden. The fact that they cannot detect antibodies when the elevated TSH is discovered does not completely rule out an autoimmune aspect, it just means it can't be proven. It may be that by the time the blood is drawn, the antibodies are already back to normal, a matter of timing rather than causality. In either case, the inactive, or only very slightly responsive, glandular tissue is still present, although it will typically shrink as the blood supply is reduced. Even with radioactive destruction, some of the original structure remains. Chuck You wrote: > > > Only a minor quibble. Hashimoto's causes gradual destruction of the > thyroid gland as you said; but the ultimate result is not an underactive > gland but an inactive gland. Or maybe it's not so much an inactive > gland as the gland no longer exists??? At least that's my understanding... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Live and learn; thanks! [ggg]. Still, as I understand it the net result often if you have it long enough is that you need a complete replacement dosage of thyroid hormones; as your thyroid produces [little or] no useful quantity. Corrections appreciated... > > Re: Hello > <hypothyroidism/message/30762;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMXNwdjZ\ 2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzA3NjIEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4NzUxNDQ0NQ--> > > > > Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@... > <mailto:gumboyaya@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hello> > gumbo482001 <gumbo482001> > > > Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:59 pm (PST) > > , > > In a sense, I think, both are correct. The underactive state requires > substantial treatment, which encourages the transition to fully > inactive. This can take years, though. The pattern with familial or > idiopathic hypoT is similar, but the transition is usually more sudden. > The fact that they cannot detect antibodies when the elevated TSH is > discovered does not completely rule out an autoimmune aspect, it just > means it can't be proven. It may be that by the time the blood is drawn, > the antibodies are already back to normal, a matter of timing rather > than causality. > > In either case, the inactive, or only very slightly responsive, > glandular tissue is still present, although it will typically shrink as > the blood supply is reduced. Even with radioactive destruction, some of > the original structure remains. > > Chuck > > You wrote: > > > > > > Only a minor quibble. Hashimoto's causes gradual destruction of the > > thyroid gland as you said; but the ultimate result is not an underactive > > gland but an inactive gland. Or maybe it's not so much an inactive > > gland as the gland no longer exists??? At least that's my > understanding. > .. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 wrote: > > > Live and learn; thanks! [ggg]. > > Still, as I understand it the net result often if you have it long > enough is that you need a complete replacement dosage of thyroid > hormones; as your thyroid produces [little or] no useful quantity. > Corrections appreciated... That's it. Perhaps the distinction is mostly semantic. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Carol, I can tell you that I have had the same problems that you just mentioned.The way I look at it now is that the body becomes overloaded with toxins (and free radicals).When it gets full it must find a way to purge things like heavy metals and plastics and a million other pollutants accumulated in our lives along the way.As the body attempts to rid us of these poisions through the skin,the eyes,the lungs,the filtering organs and even the joints, it becomes painful. I recently started back with my daily sauna's to find that my excema and arthitic pain had both left me again along with other infections and regular miseries. The body gets full and its trying to tell us something...LOUDLY! Try getting as much exercise as possible and think detox on a regular basis. Drink lots of water with electrolytes and do dry brush massages when you can. It all helps.Good luck on your cleansing journey. Lyle... > > I am new-ish top this group and I have Psoriatic Arthritis I am > having a touhg time with yeast, does anyone know how my Arthritis is > related to Canidia, I havent yet seen anything with my form inlcuded. > thanks > carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Hi - Your 4 month report gives me hope and encouragement that I may be like you 5 months from now. Your Dr.'s report sounds just perfect and the fact that you have been back to work and coping gives testament to your strength and endurance. I'm glad you touched on the depression part of your recovery. I have been struggling with depression for quite a while; these last few weeks before surgery are trying and I anticipate that it will probably hit me even harder in recovery. How do you feel a person could prepare for the mental part? Thanks for your advice. Elaine > > I have not posted very much lately,I have been dealing with a lot. I > just wanted to check in, read some postings and see how everyone was > doing. I am glad to hear Annette check up went well, and I can't > believe how many new members are out there. I tried emailing Sheila > about Dr Lauerman but I was to late, I would have highly recommend > him, his nurse Jill,and his staff. > > Anyways I am at my 4 month mark. I am working and have been for about > 1 month and a half. Still working part time, I think I could work > full time but I have had a hard time with depression. > > I am healing great that is what Dr. L says, he can't believe how good > I am doing. I can do alot more know with his permission. > I do not use the grabber at all, when I have to get something I > dropped I just squat down and pick it up. I can kneel down and sit on > floor and get back up without bending. I can shave, put on shoes and > tie them with out assistances but I have been doing that for about 3 > months. I have alot of flexablity I can almost touch my foot to my > chin with out bending my back. > > So physically I am doing great I do like to look in the mirror > sideways alot. I am constantly asking my husband am I walking > straight, its funny how the mind works being bent over for 20 years, > its hard to believe I am straight. > > Mentally I am not doing good I had to go see a psychartist (ms) > for my very deep dark depression. I am not sure how it came about but > it did and very strong. I have never been on depression pills till > all this started. I don't know what happened I try to pin point it > but I can't sometimes I think it was because of me having Pneumonia > during my revision and me losing 5 days from my mind. Also sometimes > I think I was not prepared for my new body. I guess I felt comfort > with my old body I did have it for 39 years, I know ever quirk. > I just don't know but it hit me bad, I would just cry for days. > I started taking more pain pills then I should, which was very bad. > > I don't know who I am anymore and sometimes I wish I could go back. > I was so so active, I could do anything even with a bad back. > Now with my having constance fatigue and of course my limitations. > Its hard.... > > I just want to say to anybody who is thinking of having revision, > just don't prepare for the physical part also prepare for the mental > part. That is the one thing my spouse and I say over and over again, > we never prepared for this mentally. How it can effect some people > > Do I regret having revision NO I DON'T...I can go all day with out > pain. > > The life I have become > Accustomed to will be no more. > But a better quality of life > Will follow............ > Eventually. > > > Eventually > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 , I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked and all and have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting. I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start to feel a bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you realize that it was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you are going 50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, emotionally, mentally and physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to relate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi Elaine, I am glad I have made you feel hopeful. I sometimes think I have nothing to give to anybody right now. The question you asked about how to prepare for the mental part of all this, is a hard one. I am only gone to give you what I think, nothing I have read , just what I think might or might not help. I think if you tell your self everyday starting today to the day of surgery is that Just some ideas, you can add on or delete them 1. I will feel so many emotions and one of them might be depression AND ITS OKAY 2. Its going to be a very very slow recovery. IT WILL BE WORTH IT 3. I will feel useless at times. KEEP A LIST OF ALL THINGS YOU WILL GIVE BACK 4. I will not feel guilty. YOU ARE WORTH IT 5. I might complain alot or I might feel like I am complaining alot. LOOK WHAT YOU JUST WENT THRU 6. I will embrace every day knowing that it is one day less of recovery. COUNT DOWN 7. I might have some or alot of set backs, ITS OKAY ITS PART OF HEALING. 8. Everybody is SO different when it comes to healing and how they tolerate pain. THAT IS HOW GOD MADE US ITS WONDERFUL. 9. I will use and appreciate all the help I get, even if it is not the way I do things. YOU CAN REPAY WHEN I GET BETTER. 10. I will have a better quality of life eventually. AND YOU WILL. I hope that helps just try to maybe have somethings on hand that will make you smile when you are feeling sad or some phone numbers so you can go down the list and alternate phone calls when you are feeling down. I made the mistake of carrying alot of it inside, one I live so far away from my friends and I hated to burden my husband when he had so much on his hands. I did express my concerns here with the group and it did help some. but it was very hard for me to seat at the computer desk so I didn't write in alot.... Don't make that mistake I did get things together now so you can have it on hand. Elaine Wilkinson <ebwilkie@...> wrote: Hi -Your 4 month report gives me hope and encouragement that I may be like you 5 months from now. Your Dr.'s report sounds just perfect and the fact that you have been back to work and coping gives testament to your strength and endurance. I'm glad you touched on the depression part of your recovery. I have been struggling with depression for quite a while; these last few weeks before surgery are trying and I anticipate that it will probably hit me even harder in recovery. How do you feel a person could prepare for the mental part? Thanks for your advice. Elaine>> I have not posted very much lately,I have been dealing with a lot. I > just wanted to check in, read some postings and see how everyone was > doing. I am glad to hear Annette check up went well, and I can't > believe how many new members are out there. I tried emailing Sheila > about Dr Lauerman but I was to late, I would have highly recommend > him, his nurse Jill,and his staff. > > Anyways I am at my 4 month mark. I am working and have been for about > 1 month and a half. Still working part time, I think I could work > full time but I have had a hard time with depression.> > I am healing great that is what Dr. L says, he can't believe how good > I am doing. I can do alot more know with his permission.> I do not use the grabber at all, when I have to get something I > dropped I just squat down and pick it up. I can kneel down and sit on > floor and get back up without bending. I can shave, put on shoes and > tie them with out assistances but I have been doing that for about 3 > months. I have alot of flexablity I can almost touch my foot to my > chin with out bending my back. > > So physically I am doing great I do like to look in the mirror > sideways alot. I am constantly asking my husband am I walking > straight, its funny how the mind works being bent over for 20 years, > its hard to believe I am straight.> > Mentally I am not doing good I had to go see a psychartist (ms)> for my very deep dark depression. I am not sure how it came about but > it did and very strong. I have never been on depression pills till > all this started. I don't know what happened I try to pin point it > but I can't sometimes I think it was because of me having Pneumonia > during my revision and me losing 5 days from my mind. Also sometimes > I think I was not prepared for my new body. I guess I felt comfort > with my old body I did have it for 39 years, I know ever quirk.> I just don't know but it hit me bad, I would just cry for days.> I started taking more pain pills then I should, which was very bad. > > I don't know who I am anymore and sometimes I wish I could go back.> I was so so active, I could do anything even with a bad back. > Now with my having constance fatigue and of course my limitations. > Its hard....> > I just want to say to anybody who is thinking of having revision, > just don't prepare for the physical part also prepare for the mental > part. That is the one thing my spouse and I say over and over again, > we never prepared for this mentally. How it can effect some people> > Do I regret having revision NO I DON'T...I can go all day with out > pain. > > The life I have become> Accustomed to will be no more.> But a better quality of life> Will follow............> Eventually.> > > Eventually> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Thank you for your wisdom, I will read your story. I know my time will come, I just wish I was better prepared for the depression it might have helped or might not have. I will never really know, I just really want to know is let people know that it can hit them and maybe they can prepare for it. I do feel better these days, it could be the medication or it could be me talking about it. Its good to know I am not alone, I felt kind of silly when I was crying for my old body back. Life is so funny. <vclark@...> wrote: ,I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked and alland have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting.I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start to feela bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you realize thatit was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you are going50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, emotionally, mentallyand physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to relate. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I miss my butt. And my daughter takes every opportunity to point out that my clothes would look cuter if I had a butt. All in all, though, I do like the way I look. > > , > I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked and all > and have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting. > I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start to feel > a bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you realize that > it was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you are going > 50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, > emotionally, mentally > and physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to relate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 In Contrast, Suzann, I actually HAVE a butt now!! Not real big, but at least I'm curved the right way! I had a " flat butt " before surgery. My back deformity is a little better. It will never be perfectly even on each side because I have a very bad " S " curve scoliosis. They did the best they could in '74, but even now they can't " straighten it out " . The long fusion prevents that--although I wish quite often that they could. I guess it would mess up my spinal cord, from what I understand. Carol > > > > , > > I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked > and all > > and have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting. > > I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start > to feel > > a bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you > realize that > > it was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you > are going > > 50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, > > emotionally, mentally > > and physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to > relate. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Maybe you should stuff your pants it with toliet paper and show your daughter and say see I have a but now....lol I am glad you like the way you look... you should. SB <bahadreama@...> wrote: I miss my butt. And my daughter takes every opportunity to point out that my clothes would look cuter if I had a butt. All in all, though, I do like the way I look.>> ,> I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked and all> and have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting.> I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start to feel> a bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you realize that> it was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you are going> 50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, > emotionally, mentally> and physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to relate. > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I snuck over to Ross today after I took a teacher certification test and got a black party dress to wear to my high school reunion in two weeks. I must say that it shows off my lordosis and my butt quite nicely. Now, if I could just get my belly in! I think the doctor pushed my butt so far forward that part of it came out the front. At least my new dress looks good with the right kind of underwear. I am definitely going to have to take pictures!! After my first surgery, I noticed that my back curved out instead of in from one side and I would always try to be photographed from the other side. It curves in now, but the curve is still more dramatic when viewed from the right side than from the left side. I think my leaning forward was more dramatic from that side, too. Oh well, at least I can reach my butt to wipe it now that it doesn't stick so far out behind me. The fact that I have lost 62 pounds probably has a little something to do with it. But, I did expect a bigger butt after surgery. > > > > , > > I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked > and all > > and have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting. > > I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start > to feel > > a bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you > realize that > > it was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you > are going > > 50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, > > emotionally, mentally > > and physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to > relate. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Yes do take pictures and strout your stuff in that black dress. I can't wait for that day I can fit into clothes. Hey question my doctor said that as swelling goes away that I should really notice my lordosis, he said it will take about a year. Did your lordosis change as time went on? SB <bahadreama@...> wrote: I snuck over to Ross today after I took a teacher certification test and got a black party dress to wear to my high school reunion in two weeks. I must say that it shows off my lordosis and my butt quite nicely. Now, if I could just get my belly in! I think the doctor pushed my butt so far forward that part of it came out the front. At least my new dress looks good with the right kind of underwear. I am definitely going to have to take pictures!!After my first surgery, I noticed that my back curved out instead of in from one side and I would always try to be photographed from the other side. It curves in now, but the curve is still more dramatic when viewed from the right side than from the left side. I think my leaning forward was more dramatic from that side, too.Oh well, at least I can reach my butt to wipe it now that it doesn't stick so far out behind me. The fact that I have lost 62 pounds probably has a little something to do with it. But, I did expect a bigger butt after surgery.> >> > ,> > I too suffered very severe depression. I loved my old body, crooked > and all> > and have a very tough time adjusting to my new one but I am adjusting.> > I am 17 months out and I can tell you, it does get better. You start > to feel> > a bit better on a daily basis. You start doing more. One day you > realize that> > it was a long haul but you are no longer going 10 miles an hour, you > are going> > 50. One day you will do the speed limit. IT TAKES TIME to heal, > > emotionally, mentally> > and physically. If it helps, read my story, you will be able to > relate. > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 hello crystal i have copied and pasted an email i sent to james who inquired about me also, this will answer some of your questions. then i will continue to respond to you as well. i was hypothyroid for most of my life. i found the book hypothyroidism the unsuspected illness by dr broda barnes and that changed my life. i began to take armour thyroid. and got much better. i was also an advocate of dr hulda clark and her theories. it was due to dr clark that i volunteered to moderate the hypothyroid group. the main guiding principle was that the list be supportive of alternative and natural therapies, but open to traditional allopathic things. it was not to fall into the control of those against alternative and holistic practices. if you have any other questions, please ask and i will do my best to answer them. there are still many times that i am not able to even get into the hypothyroid group, but to be honest, i have not been trying lately due to suffering from extreme and debilitating unrelenting fatigue which is similar to chronic fatigue, except the epstein barr virus exposure is not required for a diagnosis. i also have extreme depression. and i do what i can when i can. i am 62 years old, hi james. the hypothroid list was originally owned by dusan of norway. the list was set to promote dr hulda clark's theories, and it could also include the theories of dr broda barnes, the author of hypothyroidism, the unsuspected illness. back then, it was a onelist group. i was asked to be the group moderator, and i agreed. in 2001, my wife came became very ill from lung cancer, and i no longer had the time to devote to being the group moderator. i notified dusan of this, but he did not remove my name from the group list. after several computer crashes, etc, i was no longer able to even access the list as the moderator. as you can imagine, after my wife died, i fell into a deep paralyzing depression, and was not able to do much. i am still suffering from depression, and i have neglected my own thyroid, as well. i found that i am able to access the hypothyroid group, at times. i did agree to spend some time doing limited moderating, but my heart is not in it. i actually have not anything for the past month in the way of moderating. i wish i had wonderful news for you. if you know of anyone who wants to take over being the moderator of this group, let me know, i do not even know if i have the ability to give another member moderator privileges. if you want to post this email to the group, feel welcome to do so. ira m fine wrote: > Hi. During our discussions on the hypothyroidism list we have > been discussing who is the list owner; and to whom we should address > problems. The suggestion was made that you are the list owner. Is > that correct? > > Thanks, > Crystal wrote: > I am wondering who you are and if you are still active in > the hypothyroidism group. There are many of us who want to know who > you are. > > Blessings, > Crystal > > > > > <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=509 & lang=9> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Dear Ira, I am so sorry to hear about your wife, and her passing. Please know you are in our hearts and thoughts and prayers. Have you checked out www.earthclinic.com regarding CFS, it is really powerful. Sincere condolances, " Ira M. Fine " <iramfine@...> wrote: hello crystal i have copied and pasted an email i sent to james who inquired about me also, this will answer some of your questions. then i will continue to respond to you as well. i was hypothyroid for most of my life. i found the book hypothyroidism the unsuspected illness by dr broda barnes and that changed my life. i began to take armour thyroid. and got much better. i was also an advocate of dr hulda clark and her theories. it was due to dr clark that i volunteered to moderate the hypothyroid group. the main guiding principle was that the list be supportive of alternative and natural therapies, but open to traditional allopathic things. it was not to fall into the control of those against alternative and holistic practices. if you have any other questions, please ask and i will do my best to answer them. there are still many times that i am not able to even get into the hypothyroid group, but to be honest, i have not been trying lately due to suffering from extreme and debilitating unrelenting fatigue which is similar to chronic fatigue, except the epstein barr virus exposure is not required for a diagnosis. i also have extreme depression. and i do what i can when i can. i am 62 years old, hi james. the hypothroid list was originally owned by dusan of norway. the list was set to promote dr hulda clark's theories, and it could also include the theories of dr broda barnes, the author of hypothyroidism, the unsuspected illness. back then, it was a onelist group. i was asked to be the group moderator, and i agreed. in 2001, my wife came became very ill from lung cancer, and i no longer had the time to devote to being the group moderator. i notified dusan of this, but he did not remove my name from the group list. after several computer crashes, etc, i was no longer able to even access the list as the moderator. as you can imagine, after my wife died, i fell into a deep paralyzing depression, and was not able to do much. i am still suffering from depression, and i have neglected my own thyroid, as well. i found that i am able to access the hypothyroid group, at times. i did agree to spend some time doing limited moderating, but my heart is not in it. i actually have not anything for the past month in the way of moderating. i wish i had wonderful news for you. if you know of anyone who wants to take over being the moderator of this group, let me know, i do not even know if i have the ability to give another member moderator privileges. if you want to post this email to the group, feel welcome to do so. ira m fine wrote: > Hi. During our discussions on the hypothyroidism list we have > been discussing who is the list owner; and to whom we should address > problems. The suggestion was made that you are the list owner. Is > that correct? > > Thanks, > Crystal wrote: > I am wondering who you are and if you are still active in > the hypothyroidism group. There are many of us who want to know who > you are. > > Blessings, > Crystal > > > > > <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=509 & lang=9> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 hi chuck i again was able to get into the hypothyroid group as a moderator, this is something that happens only sometimes, i have not been able to figure out why i can sometmes, but not at other times. i tried to give you moderator privileges, but i learned that only the group owner can do that, i have no idea who cure_zone happens to be, but they are listed as the group owner. i am not able to get a hold of dusan of norway, either. maybe i should send an email to cure_zone asking them to relinguish owner control, and giving it to me or you. i was able to give you unlimited posting powers, the moderator has limited powers, such as what the group system allows or what the actual group owner decides to bestow upon the moderator. i also set up the control to notify me of all posts so that i can approve them in a timely manner. i will continue to try to solve these problems, as well as approving posts in a timely manner. some of the members have sent me very nice emails of sympathy and support, and i would like to thank them. it has given me some hope, motivation, and desire to continue. i apologize for the previous neglect of the moderator duties, as i was not up to it, and for a long time did not even realize i was still the designated moderator for the group. hope the holiday season brings good health and prosperity to all members. ira m fine aka iramfine@... moderator Chuck B wrote: > Ira, > > Against my better judgment, I have volunteered to help out with the > moderating, if that is possible. If Dusan is no longer involved, why > don't you try to make me a moderator? The main problem we have had is > with new subscribers not being able to post for weeks after they sign > on. Have you been the one giving them permission, or does that > eventually happen automatically? > > Thanks, > Chuck > gumboyaya@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Ira Investigate high dose iodine called Iodoral http://helpmythyroid.com http://www.optimox.com sounds like you really could use cortef (cortisol) for adrenals too. I consulted with Broda when he was in CO. Gracia hello crystal i have copied and pasted an email i sent to james who inquired about me also, this will answer some of your questions. then i will continue to respond to you as well. i was hypothyroid for most of my life. i found the book hypothyroidism the unsuspected illness by dr broda barnes and that changed my life. i began to take armour thyroid. and got much better. i was also an advocate of dr hulda clark and her theories. it was due to dr clark that i volunteered to moderate the hypothyroid group. the main guiding principle was that the list be supportive of alternative and natural therapies, but open to traditional allopathic things. it was not to fall into the control of those against alternative and holistic practices. if you have any other questions, please ask and i will do my best to answer them. there are still many times that i am not able to even get into the hypothyroid group, but to be honest, i have not been trying lately due to suffering from extreme and debilitating unrelenting fatigue which is similar to chronic fatigue, except the epstein barr virus exposure is not required for a diagnosis. i also have extreme depression. and i do what i can when i can. i am 62 years old, Recent Activity a.. 8New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Hello Ira. I hope you get to feel better and better, that sometimes happens when your mind is occupied, rather than being able to think all the time. I am a widow so I do understand. I have a question for you. In your statement below you said you would be approving all posts in a timely manner. Does this mean that you HAVE TO approve all posts? What happens if you don't like a particular post? Will you then disapprove it?. Another thing is that my own posts don't show up in my in box. Will that change? Roni " Ira M. Fine " <iramfine@...> wrote: hi chuck i again was able to get into the hypothyroid group as a moderator, this is something that happens only sometimes, i have not been able to figure out why i can sometmes, but not at other times. i tried to give you moderator privileges, but i learned that only the group owner can do that, i have no idea who cure_zone happens to be, but they are listed as the group owner. i am not able to get a hold of dusan of norway, either. maybe i should send an email to cure_zone asking them to relinguish owner control, and giving it to me or you. i was able to give you unlimited posting powers, the moderator has limited powers, such as what the group system allows or what the actual group owner decides to bestow upon the moderator. i also set up the control to notify me of all posts so that i can approve them in a timely manner. i will continue to try to solve these problems, as well as approving posts in a timely manner. some of the members have sent me very nice emails of sympathy and support, and i would like to thank them. it has given me some hope, motivation, and desire to continue. i apologize for the previous neglect of the moderator duties, as i was not up to it, and for a long time did not even realize i was still the designated moderator for the group. hope the holiday season brings good health and prosperity to all members. ira m fine aka iramfine@... moderator Chuck B wrote: > Ira, > > Against my better judgment, I have volunteered to help out with the > moderating, if that is possible. If Dusan is no longer involved, why > don't you try to make me a moderator? The main problem we have had is > with new subscribers not being able to post for weeks after they sign > on. Have you been the one giving them permission, or does that > eventually happen automatically? > > Thanks, > Chuck > gumboyaya@... --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Ira- I appreciate all that you are trying to do for this group. Most of the things you said?sounded fine to me?but I really don't like the idea of needing someone to approve our posts.?There is nothing about it that I like and?I don't want to be in a group where a moderator has to approve everything. I'm sorry if that sounds too harsh. But perhaps you just mean approving new peoples posts? Anyway, I wish you the best with your health Re: Re: hello hi chuck i again was able to get into the hypothyroid group as a moderator, this is something that happens only sometimes, i have not been able to figure out why i can sometmes, but not at other times. i tried to give you moderator privileges, but i learned that only the group owner can do that, i have no idea who cure_zone happens to be, but they are listed as the group owner. i am not able to get a hold of dusan of norway, either. maybe i should send an email to cure_zone asking them to relinguish owner control, and giving it to me or you. i was able to give you unlimited posting powers, the moderator has limited powers, such as what the group system allows or what the actual group owner decides to bestow upon the moderator. i also set up the control to notify me of all posts so that i can approve them in a timely manner. i will continue to try to solve these problems, as well as approving posts in a timely manner. some of the members have sent me very nice emails of sympathy and support, and i would like to thank them. it has given me some hope, motivation, and desire to continue. i apologize for the previous neglect of the moderator duties, as i was not up to it, and for a long time did not even realize i was still the designated moderator for the group. hope the holiday season brings good health and prosperity to all members. ira m fine aka iramfine@... moderator Chuck B wrote: > Ira, > > Against my better judgment, I have volunteered to help out with the > moderating, if that is possible. If Dusan is no longer involved, why > don't you try to make me a moderator? The main problem we have had is > with new subscribers not being able to post for weeks after they sign > on. Have you been the one giving them permission, or does that > eventually happen automatically? > > Thanks, > Chuck > gumboyaya@... ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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