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I have taken Zoloft in the past. It worked great for me. It increased my

energy, but had worse sleep problems because of it. It only took a few days to

feel better. It does decrease sex drive for me, but when my husband took it, it

increased for him. He had to stop taking it due to other side effects tho. I

think no one should be prescribed anti-depressants for " motivation " for a few

weeks, but only for clinical depression and/or other medical problems.

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,

Did your doctor test you for any other problems? There's many reasons why

anxiety/depression occurs. Most doctors won't. They push these types of drugs.

Don't fall into the trap. You've only been on them 4 months.... maybe you'll be

able to get off them safely without further damage, if you so chose to.

Here's some links that may help.

Addiction

http://www.addictionresearch.com/state.cfm

http://www.critpsynet.freeuk.com/Haddad.htm

Alternative Mental Health Online

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/default.htm

Anti-depressant Withdrawal

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/4200dtb.htm

http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.discontinuation.html

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/5001-1.htm

Antidepressants and Suicide

http://www.pssg.org/jick.htm

http://www.pssg.org/healystudy.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392029682a23.htm

http://www.pssg.org/healy.htm

http://www.pssg.org/teicher.htm

Centre for the Study of Psychiatry & Psychology

http://www.breggin.com/

Controversial Health Issues

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~capic/welcome.html

Diet/Nutrition

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Topics/nutrition.htm

Dr ph Mercola

http://www.mercola.com/

Drugs Articles and Links

http://www.cjnetworks.com/~cgrandy/frame_docs/drugs_idx.html

How's your diet?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/healthyeating/

International Coalition for Drug Awareness (ICFDA)

http://www.drugawareness.org/index.html

http://drugawareness.org/home.html

¬. SSRI Withdrawal

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/425ssritable.htm

Neurological Side Effects/Dangers of SSRIs

http://members.fortunecity.com/siriusw/prozac.html

Prozac Awareness Group

PROZACAWARENESS/files/

Prozac Truth

http://www.prozactruth.com/index.html

Prozac Truth Exposed

http://www.prozactruth.com/

Psychiatric Drugs/Treatments

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/drugs.htm

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/drsmith1.htm

http://www.oikos.org/brainchemistry.htm

http://www.breggin.com/neuroleptics.html

http://www.dsuper.net/~styan/neurolep.htm

Serotonin Syndrome

http://www.drugawareness.org/Oldsite/serosyndrome.html

SSRI Dependence

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/5001-2.htm#DEPENDENCE%20RISK

SSRI Revelations

SSRI-Revelations

Sugar Sensitivity/Hypoglycaemia

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/

The Dangers of Prozac Part I

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/prozac1.htm

The Dangers of Prozac Part II

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/prozac2.htm

zoloft

Hello all! I am new to the group. I am 30 years old and have lived a

great life. I have NEVER had any mental issues and no reason to see a

doctor about it. No issues with depression or anxiety. Until this

past July. I had my very first anxiety attack driving home after a

wonderful weekend beach camping in Flordia. It was out of nowhere. I

have lived the past 29 years just fine, and now this????? I am very

confused and upset about all this. I went to the doctor and he put me

on Zoloft 50mg. With in the past 4 months he upped me now to 200mg

which is the highest dosage. And I know that can't be good in such a

short time. Plus, I can't accept the fact that I have to take

something to " balance " me. WHy? Why now? Is there something else I

can do or may there be something else wrong with me? I am

knowledgeable about anxiety attacks and clinical depression, and i

don't fit the profile. Help please!!!

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Malinda wrote:

> ,

> Did your doctor test you for any other problems? There's many reasons why

anxiety/depression occurs. Most doctors won't. They push these types of drugs.

Don't fall into the trap. You've only been on them 4 months.... maybe you'll be

able to get off them safely without further damage, if you so chose to.

Specifically, your doctor should have tested you for thyroid disorder, which may

mimic panic/anxiety disorders.

--Cheryl

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Maarit,

I am so sorry to hear the problem you are having! I wonder if you could do more

to help yourself get off it. I mean, modify its effects by herbs or supplements

while continuing to decrease the dosage. Maybe some good naturopath or such

could help?

I once read of someone who, as they tapered of Prozac, took increasing doses of

St.'s Wort-with the help of a practitoner.

I hope it won't really take as long as you suggest.

Best,

Adrienne

Zoloft

I have been on Zoloft for three years now. I'm hooked, like a drug

addict. If I forget one pill, I'll get so irritated and angry that

I'm afraid I'll harm myself or somebody else some day. I called my

shrink yesterday and asked if I'm doing the right thing decreasing my

dose VERY slowly. He first suggested it is safe to half the dose from

100 mg to 50 mg but I told him NO WAY!!! So he said ok, my system is

all right: I cut a little bit off of the pill every day, and intend

to get rid of them in about a year or a year and a half. He also told

me that my reaction is known as a side effect, the reaction to

forgetting just one pill!!! He said it is extremly uncomman, but is

known to the medical world. Nobody ever warned me or told me it is

possible to react this way...

Any experience anybody? Is it more comman to react in this way if you

have a depression caused by fibromyalgia or CFS????

Maarit....

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Unlurking momentarily...

Wow. That is a pretty intense response. I've been on Zoloft for many years, and

now combine it with Welbutrin and sometimes Trazadone. I have problems when I

don't take my Zoloft for a few days, but it is a physiological response (feels

like little electrical charges happening in my body when I move.) I would love

to get off it, but every time I have tried, and even when I've switched to other

drugs, I am really not able to function.

By the way, I noticed your comments on Desyrel (Trazadone) the other day. I'm

surprised that any doctor would think that you would not have an immediate

response to it. For a very long time, 25mg was enough to knock me out at night

and sleep straight through for 8+ hours. 50mg and I couldn't wake up until I'd

had about 12 hours of sleep. I still use it occasionally when I am having

trouble getting to sleep and don't need to get up in the morning.

Good luck!

Melinda

Melinda M. Kaufman

Zoloft

I have been on Zoloft for three years now. I'm hooked, like a drug

addict. If I forget one pill, I'll get so irritated and angry that

I'm afraid I'll harm myself or somebody else some day. I called my

shrink yesterday and asked if I'm doing the right thing decreasing my

dose VERY slowly. He first suggested it is safe to half the dose from

100 mg to 50 mg but I told him NO WAY!!! So he said ok, my system is

all right: I cut a little bit off of the pill every day, and intend

to get rid of them in about a year or a year and a half. He also told

me that my reaction is known as a side effect, the reaction to

forgetting just one pill!!! He said it is extremly uncomman, but is

known to the medical world. Nobody ever warned me or told me it is

possible to react this way...

Any experience anybody? Is it more comman to react in this way if you

have a depression caused by fibromyalgia or CFS????

Maarit....

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I have tried St.'s Wort a few years ago, it did not help any...

Maarit....

> Maarit,

> I am so sorry to hear the problem you are having! I wonder if you

could do more to help yourself get off it. I mean, modify its effects

by herbs or supplements while continuing to decrease the dosage.

Maybe some good naturopath or such could help?

> I once read of someone who, as they tapered of Prozac, took

increasing doses of St.'s Wort-with the help of a practitoner.

> I hope it won't really take as long as you suggest.

> Best,

> Adrienne

> Zoloft

>

>

> I have been on Zoloft for three years now. I'm hooked, like a

drug

> addict. If I forget one pill, I'll get so irritated and angry

that

> I'm afraid I'll harm myself or somebody else some day. I called

my

> shrink yesterday and asked if I'm doing the right thing

decreasing my

> dose VERY slowly. He first suggested it is safe to half the dose

from

> 100 mg to 50 mg but I told him NO WAY!!! So he said ok, my system

is

> all right: I cut a little bit off of the pill every day, and

intend

> to get rid of them in about a year or a year and a half. He also

told

> me that my reaction is known as a side effect, the reaction to

> forgetting just one pill!!! He said it is extremly uncomman, but

is

> known to the medical world. Nobody ever warned me or told me it

is

> possible to react this way...

>

> Any experience anybody? Is it more comman to react in this way if

you

> have a depression caused by fibromyalgia or CFS????

>

> Maarit....

>

>

>

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I was just giving that as an example. Maybe you can take something natural that

would ease the withdrawl was my point. I suppose that would still leave you with

the depression to deal with.

Adrienne

Zoloft

>

>

> I have been on Zoloft for three years now. I'm hooked, like a

drug

> addict. If I forget one pill, I'll get so irritated and angry

that

> I'm afraid I'll harm myself or somebody else some day. I called

my

> shrink yesterday and asked if I'm doing the right thing

decreasing my

> dose VERY slowly. He first suggested it is safe to half the dose

from

> 100 mg to 50 mg but I told him NO WAY!!! So he said ok, my system

is

> all right: I cut a little bit off of the pill every day, and

intend

> to get rid of them in about a year or a year and a half. He also

told

> me that my reaction is known as a side effect, the reaction to

> forgetting just one pill!!! He said it is extremly uncomman, but

is

> known to the medical world. Nobody ever warned me or told me it

is

> possible to react this way...

>

> Any experience anybody? Is it more comman to react in this way if

you

> have a depression caused by fibromyalgia or CFS????

>

> Maarit....

>

>

>

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They don't call these drugs -- Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, et al -- the divorce

drugs for nothing. What you describe is a very common scenario. The drugs

fundamentally change who you are and they flatline your emotions. Don't expect

to

get her back until she's off this drug.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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They don't call these drugs -- Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, et al -- the divorce

drugs for nothing. What you describe is a very common scenario. The drugs

fundamentally change who you are and they flatline your emotions. Don't expect

to

get her back until she's off this drug.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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In a message dated 1/1/05 7:45:12 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I think I was

> reading a study the other day in which Healy (the British author) gave

>

> Prozac to so-called " normal " undepressed people, and they developed Mania!!!

>

Yes, this is true. And it also made them horribly suicidal. They FDA is a

whore for Big Pharma. You can't believe anything they say either. I am almost

sure that somewhere in the PIL for Zoloft there is a euphemism for

activiation of bi-polar. They cleverly disguise these things. First of all,

you do not

know for SURE that you have this gene because they have never heretofore

isolated such a gene -- this is a THEORY!!! If your father does not have BP,

then

I simply do not believe that your grandfather having it -- or something they

called BP (remember, they misdx all the damn time, despite his suicide) that

you are GENETICALLY predisposed to this " illness' which from everything I've

read that you're written was simply a case of hypomania (referring to your

private e-mail) (which almost everyone gets) after which you were taken off this

drug WAY TOO FAST (horrible formula for getting you off the drug -- who's idea

was THAT??) which then caused serious withdrawal symptoms which MIMIC BP!!!

Are you with me???? Almost every single person who goes through SSRI DTs gets

labeled with BP. It's the mental illness du jour, and they achieved their goal

by getting you on MORE drugs to make MORE money off the initial drug that

CAUSED your problem. As for litigation, you hoeing a rough road here because if

you insist on using this " acitivation " defense, they will hammer you with the

fact that according to your OWN theory, you would've gotten BP eventually

anyway and therefore are NOT entitled to damages. I haven't looked at your

website (but I will in a bit), but what I need to do is look at the Zoloft PIL

--

those clever buggers can disguise mania in a hundred different ways.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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In a message dated 1/1/05 7:45:12 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I think I was

> reading a study the other day in which Healy (the British author) gave

>

> Prozac to so-called " normal " undepressed people, and they developed Mania!!!

>

Yes, this is true. And it also made them horribly suicidal. They FDA is a

whore for Big Pharma. You can't believe anything they say either. I am almost

sure that somewhere in the PIL for Zoloft there is a euphemism for

activiation of bi-polar. They cleverly disguise these things. First of all,

you do not

know for SURE that you have this gene because they have never heretofore

isolated such a gene -- this is a THEORY!!! If your father does not have BP,

then

I simply do not believe that your grandfather having it -- or something they

called BP (remember, they misdx all the damn time, despite his suicide) that

you are GENETICALLY predisposed to this " illness' which from everything I've

read that you're written was simply a case of hypomania (referring to your

private e-mail) (which almost everyone gets) after which you were taken off this

drug WAY TOO FAST (horrible formula for getting you off the drug -- who's idea

was THAT??) which then caused serious withdrawal symptoms which MIMIC BP!!!

Are you with me???? Almost every single person who goes through SSRI DTs gets

labeled with BP. It's the mental illness du jour, and they achieved their goal

by getting you on MORE drugs to make MORE money off the initial drug that

CAUSED your problem. As for litigation, you hoeing a rough road here because if

you insist on using this " acitivation " defense, they will hammer you with the

fact that according to your OWN theory, you would've gotten BP eventually

anyway and therefore are NOT entitled to damages. I haven't looked at your

website (but I will in a bit), but what I need to do is look at the Zoloft PIL

--

those clever buggers can disguise mania in a hundred different ways.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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Hi . My daughter had a similar experience. She was on 100 mg of Zoloft

when she started having obsessive thoughts that she wanted to get seriously

injured and then she started self injuring. She also started having panic

attacks during this period as well. Her psychiatrist suggested raising the dose

to

150 mg. I was worried about doing this, but he said it was the only way to

know if the med was causing problems or if she needed a higher dose to fix the

problems. Well, for her, within 2 weeks of raising the dose everything got

back under control. It was definitely the right decision at the time. She is

currently on 200 mg and doing well. I hope you are able to get some answers

soon. Good luck. Kim

In a message dated 3/12/2005 6:51:27 PM Central Standard Time,

annabellot@... writes:

My son Jake has bad thought OCD and was given Zoloft 50mg to take

october last year, the results where fantastic hes symptoms halved

and he was able to attend school for the first time in a year.

On a visit to the phych last month Jake explained he had been having

bad thoughts about killing people and was afraid it would happen.The

phych answer by saying that there are a small % of people taking

Zoloft that do become homacidal but not to worry he wasnt one of them.

Now Jake will not take the MEDS and he has really starting to have

problems, it seems to get worse each day. He is (as i say) climbing

the walls, having probs consentrating,becoming increasingly difficult

to calm after a bad thought upsets him and now emotions are pouring

out and frustration sends him into a rage.The anxiety is much worse

than before Zoloft i have noticed as well.

What i need is to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences

and any tips on how to pursuade Jake that he needs the meds. if not

Zoloft then another that doesnt cause (%homacidal tendancies)

Thanks for listening and Jake

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,

I'm not sure how old Jake is. I'll share my thoughts on how this

would work with my son, Cody, 14. If this were him saying the same

thing about now not wanting to take the meds....I'd immediately stop

trying to break through a 'brick wall' like that one - once he puts

up a wall I've learned to walk away from it - he is normally a

compliant, intelligent, thoughtful child and his brick walls - which

I assume are ocd related - are impregnable.

It seems to me Jake now sees zoloft as bad/contaminated/dangerous =

brick wall....save your strength for winnable fights!

I would say 'okay', no more zoloft. I would explain that there are

other non-identical medications. I would say, " I don't want to talk

about zoloft...you aren't taking anymore zoloft - but we'll ask the

doctor for another med, not zoloft, and we'll very slowly build up

the dose until it either starts to work or it's clear it isn't going

to work, then we'll try another. The other meds are different from

Zoloft otherwise they wouldn't be made, and they wouldn't be offered

as alternative treatments.

Then I would show him, read to him, the sections of articles and

books that point out that ocd people with their bad thoughts are the

LEAST likely to ever carry out their bad thoughts - these thoughts

are intrusive, popping into your mind and interrupting your normal

thoughts, coming out of nowhere. The thoughts are unwanted and

unresistable, unstoppable. And they are inappropriate, against the

person's very nature.

Experts agree that ocd people are usually good people - that's why

the thoughts bother them so much. The kinds of people who WOULD do

these things are not particularly bothered by the thoughts in the

first place. [some of you may notice I was reading " Tormenting

Thoughts and Secret Rituals " by Ian Osborn this morning :>

But, I guess my main point, is that if this was my son, I'd see a

losing cause trying to get him to take anymore zoloft. Andy, I'd

give the psychiatrist a call and let him know that the comment about

that small percentage of people, while well intentioned and useful

information for most people, was a huge trigger for Jake and should

be avoided at all costs in the future.

>

> Hello everyone its a while since ive posted as all has been going

in

> the right direction.....and then.

> My son Jake has bad thought OCD and was given Zoloft 50mg to take

> october last year, the results where fantastic hes symptoms halved

> and he was able to attend school for the first time in a year.

> On a visit to the phych last month Jake explained he had been

having

> bad thoughts about killing people and was afraid it would

happen.The

> phych answer by saying that there are a small % of people taking

> Zoloft that do become homacidal but not to worry he wasnt one of

them.

> Now Jake will not take the MEDS and he has really starting to have

> problems, it seems to get worse each day. He is (as i say) climbing

> the walls, having probs consentrating,becoming increasingly

difficult

> to calm after a bad thought upsets him and now emotions are pouring

> out and frustration sends him into a rage.The anxiety is much worse

> than before Zoloft i have noticed as well.

> What i need is to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences

> and any tips on how to pursuade Jake that he needs the meds. if not

> Zoloft then another that doesnt cause (%homacidal tendancies)

> Thanks for listening and Jake

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,

I don't have anything new to add, just wanted to reinforce that I agree with

everything has just said. Fighting with your son over this is going to be

a losing battle. Hopefully you will find another med that works as well. (My dd

age 13 started on Zoloft and switched to Luvox which has worked very well for

her.) Good Luck!

Let us know how things work out.

Sharon

klwicklund77 <k777thorpe@...> wrote:

,

I'm not sure how old Jake is. I'll share my thoughts on how this

would work with my son, Cody, 14. If this were him saying the same

thing about now not wanting to take the meds....I'd immediately stop

trying to break through a 'brick wall' like that one - once he puts

up a wall I've learned to walk away from it - he is normally a

compliant, intelligent, thoughtful child and his brick walls - which

I assume are ocd related - are impregnable.

It seems to me Jake now sees zoloft as bad/contaminated/dangerous =

brick wall....save your strength for winnable fights!

I would say 'okay', no more zoloft. I would explain that there are

other non-identical medications. I would say, " I don't want to talk

about zoloft...you aren't taking anymore zoloft - but we'll ask the

doctor for another med, not zoloft, and we'll very slowly build up

the dose until it either starts to work or it's clear it isn't going

to work, then we'll try another. The other meds are different from

Zoloft otherwise they wouldn't be made, and they wouldn't be offered

as alternative treatments.

Then I would show him, read to him, the sections of articles and

books that point out that ocd people with their bad thoughts are the

LEAST likely to ever carry out their bad thoughts - these thoughts

are intrusive, popping into your mind and interrupting your normal

thoughts, coming out of nowhere. The thoughts are unwanted and

unresistable, unstoppable. And they are inappropriate, against the

person's very nature.

Experts agree that ocd people are usually good people - that's why

the thoughts bother them so much. The kinds of people who WOULD do

these things are not particularly bothered by the thoughts in the

first place. [some of you may notice I was reading " Tormenting

Thoughts and Secret Rituals " by Ian Osborn this morning :>

But, I guess my main point, is that if this was my son, I'd see a

losing cause trying to get him to take anymore zoloft. Andy, I'd

give the psychiatrist a call and let him know that the comment about

that small percentage of people, while well intentioned and useful

information for most people, was a huge trigger for Jake and should

be avoided at all costs in the future.

__________________________________________________

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 3:30:11 PM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

The information about SSRIs and their effects is much more abundant,

accessible and

alarming now compared to my initial research before commencing the drug on

1998.

This is yet another case of a drug that should never have been put on the

market. All of the symptoms you describe are part and parcel of taking these

drugs. None of what you listed is a surprise to me, nor to anyone who has

studied the effects of these drugs on the general health of the people taking

them.

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To all those involved , im 42 year old male on Lexapro with all the side

effects considered I still went on the anti depressant. Lexapro does level one

out, at least for me it did . If one can deal with the side effect of being in

the bathroom more than desired its fine. I can handle that . The sexual side

effects- have not effected me . Everything still works just fine.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:23:26 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

> I wonder how Zoloft impaires sexual function.

> I am 22 I have still been suffering with severe testicular pain.

> Looks as if I may be losing them becasue of this.

> It has lasted now since 18 almost 19.

> I am so scared and hate this shit.

> It sucks all this stuff.

> But you have to do what you have to do.

You might have the cart before the horse. Many people with low

Testosterone are diagnosed as depressed and prescribed meds for

depression when just getting their T levels up will cure most of their

problem. With the pain and the fact you're here I'm guessing you have

low T levels?

Don't take this as an invite to stop Zoloft. You need to tape off

these things and you need to be monitored while you do, but it's a

possibility you might want to raise with your doctor - that is - that

your issues may stem from hormone levels more than depression.

- - - -

Just another albino black sheep

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Thanks very much!

retrogrouch@... wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:23:26 -0800 (PST), you

wrote:

> I wonder how Zoloft impaires sexual function.

> I am 22 I have still been suffering with severe testicular pain.

> Looks as if I may be losing them becasue of this.

> It has lasted now since 18 almost 19.

> I am so scared and hate this shit.

> It sucks all this stuff.

> But you have to do what you have to do.

You might have the cart before the horse. Many people with low

Testosterone are diagnosed as depressed and prescribed meds for

depression when just getting their T levels up will cure most of their

problem. With the pain and the fact you're here I'm guessing you have

low T levels?

Don't take this as an invite to stop Zoloft. You need to tape off

these things and you need to be monitored while you do, but it's a

possibility you might want to raise with your doctor - that is - that

your issues may stem from hormone levels more than depression.

- - - -

Just another albino black sheep

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I had no problem with my liver levels, I did have trouble with my blood

pressure and the runs.

I actually had worse diarrhea with the Zoloft then with the Ursodiol.

Kathy, WV

dx 6/01

stage 3/4 PBC

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I've been on the maximum dose of zoloft for 2 years and haven't any problems.

Side effects such as dowsyness, diarrhea etc. usually subside in a week or two.

I think more of us have had problems with Wellbutrin. My hepatologist told me

that many of his patients see an increase in energy level on a dose of 150 mg.

Regards

Elaine

Long Island NY

I was just prescribed Zoloft for GAD(General Anxiety Disorder). Are

any of you here on this and what side effects have you had. Also,

did any of your liver levels go up if you are taking this?

Thanks!

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>

> Message: 8

> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:59:43 EDT

> From: mom2you2@...

> Subject: Re: Zoloft

>

> I had no problem with my liver levels, I did have trouble with my blood

> pressure and the runs.

>

> I actually had worse diarrhea with the Zoloft then with the Ursodiol.

>

>

>

> Kathy, WV

> dx 6/01

> stage 3/4 PBC

>

>

>

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DP - My son also had a fear of storms, thunder, high winds, etc. He used to

worry about the pool toys blowing away. This was the first obsession to

disappear when he started Zoloft. He, too, was extremely tired in the

beginning. We then started giving him his meds before bed at night and this

seems to

have alleviated that and has also helped with sleep issues.

In a message dated 8/12/2006 9:19:20 PM Central Standard Time,

adelem@... writes:

Its not helping that

his biggest fear is storms and we have had thunder storms, rain, and

dark clouds almost everyday this summer, ugg we are tired!

DP

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He's currently on 150 mg and has been for a while now. I think when we went

from 100 mg to 150 mg is when we saw the biggest difference. He also takes

50 mg of Luvox with this and also 60 mg of Strattera. ADHD is really the

least of our worries, but the Strattera also seems to have an

" anti-anxiety/anti-depressant " effect in him.

I do remember though that the storm/pool toy thing was the first to

disappear initially. Funny thing - our summer has been hectic and we moved

this past

week. He missed a couple of days of medication and really gave us a scare

with very dark/depressed agitated mood. At one point a storm was brewing and

the first thing out of his mouth was " we have pool toys. " Needless to say,

he's back on his medication schedule consistently and we're seeing improvement

already. He has some real stickler obsessions that we're beginning to think

will never be touched by medication. For example, he only eats with plastic

ware (forks, spoons, bowls, etc). Germs and " ick " play a role with that.

He also will not go to the dentist - I always thought it was a gag reflex

thing - He finally explained it as a fear of the dental instruments falling

down

his throat and then being rushed to the hospital and then dying (he

associates hospitals/death). For now, we just concentrate on day to day

functioning

and he really has experienced a significant improvement in overall quality of

life since starting the meds almost two years ago.

In a message dated 8/13/2006 9:48:09 AM Central Standard Time,

adelem@... writes:

What dosage were you on when your son started getting better?

Thanks

DP

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