Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Thanks for your input. I will think about some of the ideas. Especially the two cloth grocery bags that she can just lift and insert to book bag, if she can get to her locker between some class. Right now she says the bus gets there too late for her to get to her locker first thing in the am. Maybe that will change. Then her classes really are crisscrossed every period across the building and up or down the stairs so it is tough to get to classes. We are switching one class out but I don't know that that will change the pattern. I wish she had a study hall but that is not offered here. We did the map and the patterning to walk before school started so that has been done, but there are still heavy crowds and distances to get through. Today, we packed her lunch so maybe she can go to her locker during lunch now. The lines are so long at school that she didn't have time to eat the last two days.. It is rough right now, but she is still in school and that is progress. I am debating whether or not to drive her to school. She so wants me to, but the bus is very convenient and it is the only way she will ever meet kids in our neighborhood, I believe. She has been here 3 years and knows no one because she rarely leaves her room. Our Nurse and Counselor are very nice, but they don't have time to walk her around etc.. and it is high school.. she doesn't exactly want me there either, but the cloth bag might just do the trick.. Thanks.. I will find a use for all those old bags I got at educational conferences when I worked in the schools.From: E.C. <e.c.bernard@...> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 2:13:44 PMSubject: ( ) now heavy backpack was Reintro Dear Sandee, As a seventh grade teacher, I train parents to run a clinic during the study hall opposite lunch to help students manage their lockers and book bags. I don’t know about your daughter’s building, but let me tell you about my building that houses 2000 middleschoolers. We teachers expect the students to learn when to go to their lockers. It is a skill that some avoid because they are terrified that they will be late to class. If she were in my building, I, or one of my parent volunteers, would sit down and look at when she is near her locker and help her to figure out when to go to her locker and switch out bags. We would put her am binders and materials in a cloth bag (like they use for groceries) and her pm stuff in another bag. No one sees the bag. Just lift it out and hang it in the locker and grab the other one and slide it in the book bag. (This is preferable to a bag with wheels if the student has to climb stairs. With wheels, they stop to pick up the bag and other students aren’t thinking about a wheeled bag and they push forward, for me it is a safety issue. The students who use the elevator use the wheeled bags, but in our building it is setting your child up as a target for the bullies.) Then I would walk with your daughter so that she could use my watch to see that indeed there is time to stop, open the locker and make it to class, even if it feels like there isn’t time. You should find a map of the building, and trace her classes – more than likely she can go to her locker, even if it is on the way to lunch. Don’t be diverted with the feeling her classes are all over, in reality there is almost always a logical time from an adult’s eyes. If a student can’t use a regular lock, we provide one with numbers that are aligned and opens more quickly. As for heavy books, we tell our students to bring their books home and leave them there as we have a class set. Yet some students insist on lugging them. Check to see if that is the case – she just may have so many books because she needs to bring them home and then the problem will go away. How would a parent find me so that the student is helped? Usually a parent would call the guidance office or the IEP teacher, or the assistant principal and explains that her child needs extra help and that while most students learn this over the course of the next few weeks, your child needs to figure this out now because of anxiety or visits to the nurse. Usually an IEP teacher or counselor or kindly secretary will help. If not, if you are able to pick her up at school and trace her classes and show her what I described above, or else do it before school then that would help. We have so many requests, that this is now my duty rather than monitoring a study hall. Most buildings have someone who will help, if none of the other people can help, try the homeroom teacher. Let us know how it works. E.C. 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Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 She did not make the bus again today because she couldn't get there on time after going to her locker. When I picked her up again the nurse and secretary were standing there and I mentioned the problem she is having and they asked why I didn't get her a rolling backpack. I guess they are allowed. I just didn't know it, and most students don't know it. So, we got her one. Even if it is bad on stairs, at least it will help the rest of the way. She got her books today and they are huge, too. Her binders are mostly 1" with one requested 3". I took the advice of only putting a few pieces of paper in each one.. Making some progress. She may make it after all. I can see her growing up before my eyes.. Don't know if it is the Intuniv or High School or a combination but I am hopeful again.. Thanks for the ideas. I would not have thought of all of them myself. From: sandee C <irsandee@...> Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 10:46:55 AMSubject: Re: ( ) now heavy backpack was Reintro Thanks for your input. I will think about some of the ideas. Especially the two cloth grocery bags that she can just lift and insert to book bag, if she can get to her locker between some class. Right now she says the bus gets there too late for her to get to her locker first thing in the am. Maybe that will change. Then her classes really are crisscrossed every period across the building and up or down the stairs so it is tough to get to classes. We are switching one class out but I don't know that that will change the pattern. I wish she had a study hall but that is not offered here. We did the map and the patterning to walk before school started so that has been done, but there are still heavy crowds and distances to get through. Today, we packed her lunch so maybe she can go to her locker during lunch now. The lines are so long at school that she didn't have time to eat the last two days.. It is rough right now, but she is still in school and that is progress. I am debating whether or not to drive her to school. She so wants me to, but the bus is very convenient and it is the only way she will ever meet kids in our neighborhood, I believe. She has been here 3 years and knows no one because she rarely leaves her room. Our Nurse and Counselor are very nice, but they don't have time to walk her around etc.. and it is high school.. she doesn't exactly want me there either, but the cloth bag might just do the trick.. Thanks.. I will find a use for all those old bags I got at educational conferences when I worked in the schools.From: E.C. <e.c.bernard@ comcast.net> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 2:13:44 PMSubject: ( ) now heavy backpack was Reintro Dear Sandee, As a seventh grade teacher, I train parents to run a clinic during the study hall opposite lunch to help students manage their lockers and book bags. I don’t know about your daughter’s building, but let me tell you about my building that houses 2000 middleschoolers. We teachers expect the students to learn when to go to their lockers. It is a skill that some avoid because they are terrified that they will be late to class. If she were in my building, I, or one of my parent volunteers, would sit down and look at when she is near her locker and help her to figure out when to go to her locker and switch out bags. We would put her am binders and materials in a cloth bag (like they use for groceries) and her pm stuff in another bag. No one sees the bag. Just lift it out and hang it in the locker and grab the other one and slide it in the book bag. (This is preferable to a bag with wheels if the student has to climb stairs. With wheels, they stop to pick up the bag and other students aren’t thinking about a wheeled bag and they push forward, for me it is a safety issue. The students who use the elevator use the wheeled bags, but in our building it is setting your child up as a target for the bullies.) Then I would walk with your daughter so that she could use my watch to see that indeed there is time to stop, open the locker and make it to class, even if it feels like there isn’t time. You should find a map of the building, and trace her classes – more than likely she can go to her locker, even if it is on the way to lunch. Don’t be diverted with the feeling her classes are all over, in reality there is almost always a logical time from an adult’s eyes. If a student can’t use a regular lock, we provide one with numbers that are aligned and opens more quickly. As for heavy books, we tell our students to bring their books home and leave them there as we have a class set. Yet some students insist on lugging them. Check to see if that is the case – she just may have so many books because she needs to bring them home and then the problem will go away. How would a parent find me so that the student is helped? Usually a parent would call the guidance office or the IEP teacher, or the assistant principal and explains that her child needs extra help and that while most students learn this over the course of the next few weeks, your child needs to figure this out now because of anxiety or visits to the nurse. Usually an IEP teacher or counselor or kindly secretary will help. If not, if you are able to pick her up at school and trace her classes and show her what I described above, or else do it before school then that would help. We have so many requests, that this is now my duty rather than monitoring a study hall. Most buildings have someone who will help, if none of the other people can help, try the homeroom teacher. Let us know how it works. E.C. Bernard. www.ecbernard. org __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5355 (20100810) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5355 (20100810) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Oh, that is help my Liz could really use! She always claims not to have time to go her locker.I am hoping it will be part of her plan. From: e.c.bernard@...Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:13:44 -0400Subject: ( ) now heavy backpack was Reintro Dear Sandee, As a seventh grade teacher, I train parents to run a clinic during the study hall opposite lunch to help students manage their lockers and book bags. I don’t know about your daughter’s building, but let me tell you about my building that houses 2000 middleschoolers. We teachers expect the students to learn when to go to their lockers. It is a skill that some avoid because they are terrified that they will be late to class. If she were in my building, I, or one of my parent volunteers, would sit down and look at when she is near her locker and help her to figure out when to go to her locker and switch out bags. We would put her am binders and materials in a cloth bag (like they use for groceries) and her pm stuff in another bag. No one sees the bag. Just lift it out and hang it in the locker and grab the other one and slide it in the book bag. (This is preferable to a bag with wheels if the student has to climb stairs. With wheels, they stop to pick up the bag and other students aren’t thinking about a wheeled bag and they push forward, for me it is a safety issue. The students who use the elevator use the wheeled bags, but in our building it is setting your child up as a target for the bullies.) Then I would walk with your daughter so that she could use my watch to see that indeed there is time to stop, open the locker and make it to class, even if it feels like there isn’t time. You should find a map of the building, and trace her classes – more than likely she can go to her locker, even if it is on the way to lunch. Don’t be diverted with the feeling her classes are all over, in reality there is almost always a logical time from an adult’s eyes. If a student can’t use a regular lock, we provide one with numbers that are aligned and opens more quickly. As for heavy books, we tell our students to bring their books home and leave them there as we have a class set. Yet some students insist on lugging them. Check to see if that is the case – she just may have so many books because she needs to bring them home and then the problem will go away. How would a parent find me so that the student is helped? Usually a parent would call the guidance office or the IEP teacher, or the assistant principal and explains that her child needs extra help and that while most students learn this over the course of the next few weeks, your child needs to figure this out now because of anxiety or visits to the nurse. Usually an IEP teacher or counselor or kindly secretary will help. If not, if you are able to pick her up at school and trace her classes and show her what I described above, or else do it before school then that would help. We have so many requests, that this is now my duty rather than monitoring a study hall. Most buildings have someone who will help, if none of the other people can help, try the homeroom teacher. Let us know how it works. E.C. Bernard. www.ecbernard.org __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5355 (20100810) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5355 (20100810) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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