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Geri

You advised 1200mg of calcium, i take 600mg of Caltrate

(calcium and vitamin D) each day, it looks as if i should double my

dose. I do try to drink as much soy milk as possible, and have found a

brand that i quite like. I read that with liver disease animal fats are

a no no (they overload the liver). As i was very sick when i read this

i tried to cut animal fats out as much as possible, and have got used

to the alternatives. Fosomax to help stop the bone desity from

deteriorating, i will ask my chemist if they have this drug in

Australia.

Massage the fatty parts of the base of the thumb for headache i haven't

heard of this before, but i will give it a try. it won't do any harm

thats for sure.

Have a good day

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I wasn't even aware that we needed vitamin D for bone density loss until

recently. In fact, I thought I was taking it and just realized I wasn't,

but the doctor specifically mentioned the need for Calcium and vitamin D

therapy. I got the impression that Fosomax offers that. If Fosomax is a

brand name, perhaps we can get the generic name so you can ask your

pharmacist about it. It's definitely a good idea for you to take some kind

of supplement since you've been on Prednisone therapy. I get the feeling

that this is an area that many GI doctors are overlooking. I know that

mine did.

Calcium has additional benefits besides helping prevent bone density loss.

My husband has been taking it, under doctor's orders, since he had a heart

attack in 1996. I had a very large, exceptionally large kidney stone,

removed in 1993 by lithotripsy (they *blast* it into smithereens!) and I

would have thought that calcium should be avoided because of that, since if

you have a predisposition to have stones, they're likely to form over and

over. Apparently it doesn't work that way.

I don't know that rubbing the fatty part of the thumb is a legitimate

headache remedy. Maybe it's psychological, but if it works, why not? The

other day my husband had hiccups and I told him to chew on an ice cube.

The hiccups stopped and he said he'd never heard of ice working that way.

I told him that I hadn't either, but the ice took his mind off the hiccups,

so apparently that was all he needed.

I am still very upset about . I just read the e-mail from her cousin

a few minutes ago. Sometimes life seems so incredibly unfair.

Take care of yourself. You (and all of you) have become some of my closest

friends and very much like family. I think I can handle threat to my own

life more than I can to those I care about.

Geri

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DaniGran@... wrote:

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> From: DaniGran@...

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> Pat B -

>

> I've been taking predisone for about a month now, and I've also taken it on

> and off for a number of years and I've never heard of needing calcium with

> it. Your Dr. has recommended this for you?

> Has anyone else heard of this? It has me a little concerned.

>

> le

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I was told to be sure and take it by several MDs. I am 66 so maybe the age,

but doubt it as have been told this for at least 10yrs. Betty. Always check

with your MD

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My doctor just gave me a nasal spray of calcium to use. She said it

does not go through your liver. It is a prescription med. It is call

Miacalcin (calcitonin-salmon) Nasal Solution. The directions are to use

one spray into one nostril daily alternation nostrils each day.

I figure anything that will help me and not have to go through my liver

is great!

Nina

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Nina The nasal apray sounds great I am going to ask my Dr. I hate the

pills they constipate me Thanks

Pa.

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Dear T:

I haven't heard anything bad about Vitamin K, although I am allergic to

synthetic vitamin K. I can't take some multivitamins because of it. I also

can't take the

Viactive because it has vitamin K in it. I've been taking two tablets of

Tums every night (600 mg of calcium) although I am taking it for dual reason.

1. For the calcium, and 2. It helps with my morning stomachache.

When I was in real bad shape with the hepatitis, my doctor gave me a shot of

vitamin K because my pro-time looked so bad. I got a terrible rash at the

shot sight that lasted for weeks. I think that those of you who take the

Viactive should let your doctors know about the vitamin K that it contains.

Just my opinion.

Kathy (AIH)

Seattle area

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Problem with viactiv is that it has sugar in it and we diabetics cant take

it

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Hopefully Viactiv will come out with an alternative version that's

acceptable for diabetics. It realy is so much easier to take than calcium

in pill form.

Take care,

Geri

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Hello Pam,

You are so worried about the Calcium. Me too. The two highest food sources

of calcium i know of are sesame seeds and kelp. Not dairy. Kelp is a

vegetable staple so you can kill two birds with one stone! I don't eat kelp

now, but i can see myself incorporating it, now that i know about it. I get

ezekiel bread with sesame seeds on it at the HFS. And soy milk (West Soy

PLUS) has as much calcium as milk! It's fortified.

Ann

in Florida

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Dear Ann,

Does the soy milk taste anything like regular milk?

Marlida

--- MAMZEL150@... wrote:

> Hello Pam,

> You are so worried about the Calcium. Me too. The

> two highest food sources

> of calcium i know of are sesame seeds and kelp. Not

> dairy. Kelp is a

> vegetable staple so you can kill two birds with one

> stone! I don't eat kelp

> now, but i can see myself incorporating it, now that

> i know about it. I get

> ezekiel bread with sesame seeds on it at the HFS.

> And soy milk (West Soy

> PLUS) has as much calcium as milk! It's fortified.

>

>

>

>

> Ann

> in Florida

>

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Not to me it doesn't. I don't mind putting it in my cereal. I eat barley

flakes for breakfast, it is a neutral. But I didn't like it by itself in a

glass. Steph

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> I'm wondering what calcium supplements everyone is taking?

>

I take calcium supplements in the form of Hydroxyapatite, which I was told

is easier to assimilate than other forms. I get mine from Puritan's Pride -

they call it BONE REINFORCER WITH HYDROXYAPATITE - Product # 7220 or 7222.

They're online at www.puritan.com, and quite reasonable, compared to other

brands like Metagenics.

Marilyn

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According to Colgan calcium citrate and calcium carbonate are the

best forms. He also suggests taking all your mineral supplements at night,

because the mineral flux in the body that maintains bone growth is greatest

during sleep.

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Re: CALCIUM

> I'm wondering what calcium supplements everyone is taking?

>

I take calcium supplements in the form of Hydroxyapatite, which I was told

is easier to assimilate than other forms. I get mine from Puritan's Pride -

they call it BONE REINFORCER WITH HYDROXYAPATITE - Product # 7220 or 7222.

They're online at www.puritan.com, and quite reasonable, compared to other

brands like Metagenics.

Marilyn

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In a message dated 10/10/2000 9:16:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cbaker@... writes:

<< Hi Deb,

What type of calcium are you taking? When do you take it? I take mine at bed

time.

aloha

CB >>

Hi CB, The Calcium I have is Calcium Magnesium made by Pioneer

(microcrystalline hydroxyapatite (MCH) and citrate malate) It says take 2

tablets 2x a day. I only took 2 a day not even the 4 that I am suppose to

take.

Thank You

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Hi Deb,

What type of calcium are you taking? When do you take it? I take mine at bed

time.

aloha

CB

Hi everybody,

I have another question, blood tye O is suppose to take calcium, right? Well

when I take it I get really tired and sometimes a headache and my back about

where my lungs are hurts. Has anyone heard of this because of calcium? I

wonder if I should stop taking it or if there is another way of getting it

because we are not suppose to have the milk and I have rarely drank milk

anyways.

Thanks Again.

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Hi,

I've had the same experience with Ca tablets. Until only a few days ago I took 4 250 mg Ca2+ a day... and it made me feel VERY tired. I did some research and learned that the tablets I used contained an ingredient called aspartam (that's the swedish word for it, don't know the english equivalent). I don't know if the aspartam is what makes me drowsy, but it seems likely since it has been proven to lower the bloodsugar levels. I don't know why it is present in the tablet to begin with... but there must be other aspartam-free alternatives. I hope I find one soon, since I do a lot of sport I try to keep my Ca intake slightly above normal, which is VERY hard without the tablets.

Regards,

Jon

Calcium>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:09:56 EDT>>Hi everybody,>I have another question, blood tye O is suppose to take calcium, right? >Well>when I take it I get really tired and sometimes a headache and my back >about>where my lungs are hurts. Has anyone heard of this because of calcium? I>wonder if I should stop taking it or if there is another way of getting it>because we are not suppose to have the milk and I have rarely drank milk>anyways.>Thanks Again.>Deb_________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the mailing list.

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In a message dated 10/12/2000 9:45:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

merikramer@... writes:

<< I did some research and learned that the tablets I used contained an

ingredient called aspartam (that's the swedish word for it, don't know the

english equivalent). I don't know if the aspartam is what makes me drowsy,

but it seems likely since it has been proven to lower the bloodsugar levels.

I don't know why it is present in the tablet to begin with... but >>

Hi, In reading the label on the bottle I have next to Boron it says

aspartate: glycinate: citrate. Is that aspertame you are talking about? I

just don't know what to do about this I know I should be taking calcium and

this one was recommended as being very good. It also lists the calcium as

being 1,000 mg per 4 tablets (daily) and the Magneisum is 500 mg per 4

tablets. So if the magneisum is suppose to be higher as you mentioned maybe

thats part of the problem?

Deb

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Hi Deb it could be where they get the calcium from or the ratio of calcium

to the other ingred. I and my son also react to a particular calcium tablet

.. I don't know if it is one of the other ingred but I react also to zinc. I

cannot take zinc and it is in these particular calcium tablets that I have

so I only take them just before that time of month now and then but I find I

can take magnesium tablets with calcium as an ingred and I don't react so it

could be the ratio of calcium to magnesium. I think the magnesiom has to be

higher than calcium. I will check my tablets. sherry

>From: DHigg76532@...

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Calcium

>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:09:56 EDT

>

>Hi everybody,

>I have another question, blood tye O is suppose to take calcium, right?

>Well

>when I take it I get really tired and sometimes a headache and my back

>about

>where my lungs are hurts. Has anyone heard of this because of calcium? I

>wonder if I should stop taking it or if there is another way of getting it

>because we are not suppose to have the milk and I have rarely drank milk

>anyways.

>Thanks Again.

>Deb

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Aspartame is called NutraSweet or Equal in US...it is a VERY dangerous food additive which has been linked to MS, cancer, epilepsy, etc. Log onto the website for it, NutraSweet, etc and read about the negative effects....it is being banned in most European countries but is put into loads of stuff here in the US.

I have a friend and her husband + 2 kids who were hospitalized after drinking a case od diet soda in the hot summer sun and developed serious symptoms...all traced back to aspartame!

MK

Jon Kronander <jonkronander@...> wrote:

Hi,

I've had the same experience with Ca tablets. Until only a few days ago I took 4 250 mg Ca2+ a day... and it made me feel VERY tired. I did some research and learned that the tablets I used contained an ingredient called aspartam (that's the swedish word for it, don't know the english equivalent). I don't know if the aspartam is what makes me drowsy, but it seems likely since it has been proven to lower the bloodsugar levels. I don't know why it is present in the tablet to begin with... but there must be other aspartam-free alternatives. I hope I find one soon, since I do a lot of sport I try to keep my Ca intake slightly above normal, which is VERY hard without the tablets.

Regards,

Jon

Calcium>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:09:56 EDT>>Hi everybody,>I have another question, blood tye O is suppose to take calcium, right? >Well>when I take it I get really tired and sometimes a headache and my back >about>where my lungs are hurts. Has anyone heard of this because of calcium? I>wonder if I should stop taking it or if there is another way of getting it>because we are not suppose to have the milk and I have rarely drank milk>anyways.>Thanks Again.>Deb_________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the mailing list.

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In a message dated 10/12/00 3:29:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cbaker@... writes:

<< could be the ratio of calcium to magnesium. I think the magnesium has to

be

higher than calcium. >>

I thought that I read years ago that the calcium should be twice the

magnesium in the pill.

Sharon, Ontario, Canada

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Hi Deb and Sherry,

You wrote: I find I

can take magnesium tablets with calcium as an ingred and I don't react so it

could be the ratio of calcium to magnesium. I think the magnesium has to be

higher than calcium. I will check my tablets. sherry * * * * * * * I think

that the ratio is half/half. That is what I take.

aloha

CB

Hi Deb it could be where they get the calcium from or the ratio of calcium

to the other ingred. I and my son also react to a particular calcium tablet

.. I don't know if it is one of the other ingred but I react also to zinc. I

cannot take zinc and it is in these particular calcium tablets that I have

so I only take them just before that time of month now and then but I find I

can take magnesium tablets with calcium as an ingred and I don't react so it

could be the ratio of calcium to magnesium. I think the magnesiom has to be

higher than calcium. I will check my tablets. sherry

>From: DHigg76532@...

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Calcium

>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:09:56 EDT

>

>Hi everybody,

>I have another question, blood tye O is suppose to take calcium, right?

>Well

>when I take it I get really tired and sometimes a headache and my back

>about

>where my lungs are hurts. Has anyone heard of this because of calcium? I

>wonder if I should stop taking it or if there is another way of getting it

>because we are not suppose to have the milk and I have rarely drank milk

>anyways.

>Thanks Again.

>Deb

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At www.healthcatchers.com under Osteoporosis you can find information.

Also under A Comparison of Calcium Suplements and under Absorbtion. I am not

linked in any way to this business, just for your information.

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You know, I feel really good doing the half/half thing, but let us ask some

of our holistic people. Rhonda?? Natasha?? Tabitha?? Steve?? Edna?? Eyde??

?? anyone??

aloha

CB

In a message dated 10/12/00 3:29:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cbaker@... writes:

<< could be the ratio of calcium to magnesium. I think the magnesium has to

be

higher than calcium. >>

I thought that I read years ago that the calcium should be twice the

magnesium in the pill.

Sharon, Ontario, Canada

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RE: Calcium

> You know, I feel really good doing the half/half thing, but let us ask

some

> of our holistic people. Rhonda?? Natasha?? Tabitha?? Steve?? Edna?? Eyde??

> ?? anyone??

> aloha

> CB

>

From " The Family Guide to Homeopathy " by Dr Lockie

Magnesium : If taking calcium as well take 2 parts of calcium to 1 part

of magnesium.

Calcium : Do not give at the same time of day as magnesium and manganese

(but doesn't say why not)

I know it is not much but hope it helps some.

LnL

Steve

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