Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 You do a trial with ala and see if it creates symptoms. Keep in mind that some people's hair tests do not meet counting rules until after they have done some rounds. So, if that person has known mercury exposure through vaccination, metal fillings, or a lot of fish etc....it's worth trying some ala. Not meeting rules does not always mean there is no mercury in the body or brain. It depends what other things you see on the hair test. What does aluminum, tin, silver and antimony look like? What is lithium look like? Are there indicators for adrenal fatigue (which would point to mercury in the body)? etc. Basically, ala is an antioxidant and if you have no brain Hg, it will do nothing to you. If you do, you will either see side effects when you take it or feel better. > > I'm sorry if this is something simple that I'm just not understanding, > but if a hair test doesn't meet counting rules (mineral transport is > okay), it's a good indication that there's no mercury body burden. > But how do you tell if you just have mercury in the brain? > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Dear and group: I and other family members have tried a few different fancy formulas, and it never worked out. We would feel better for a few days, but then get worse. I guess I just feel uncomfortable with already-made formulas. I think herbs, vitamins, and minerals should be more tailored to the person. It just seems like everytime we have used an already-made formula, some things in it helped us, and some things in it made us worse. Thus, I am at the current belief that for long-term, only multivitamin and multimineral formulas close to the RDA should be used, and then add additional herbs, vitamins, and minerals for each's needs. We all wish we could take one pill or one formula and get better, but I just haven't seen that yet. That's why we are all spending years to get " cured " . Its a journey, but it sure is worth it. I had my fillings removed, 13 of them, and it is just part of the journey. I didn't want to of course; I thought surely I could do things to make me well without amalgam removal. But I took some herbal chelation concoction, and it make my teeth hurt, and I started getting worse. That convinced me that I really couldn't. I stubbornly learned that it is a journey, a lot of work, a lot of research, a lot of money, and a lot of time. But, the miracles that we have had have been worth it all, of course, and they started immediately. My current outlook is that I am now happy knowing how to get better, even if it is a journey. At least now I have the knowledge; whereas before, I was like the majority of the population, living in pessimism as if my children could never be " normal " . Those days are gone, they are going to regular school now. They are not cured, but they are stable on supplements, and I do believe I can get them " cured " to the point that only an occasional treatment will be necessary. Knowledge is power. And faith will give you the motivation to proceed. Heidi ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Thank you, Jan for responding. The reason I'm asking is I have 4 amalgams. My hair test didn't meet counting rules (but is just one away from rule 2 - so I still don't meet them). It also doesn't indicate adrenal fatigue (although I do have it). The mercury is low and the aluminum is in the yellow almost to the red (but I had been taking Tums for a few days, just a few days before I cut my hair (and then there's deodorant). And arsenic is mid-yellow (we had high arsenic in our water that was finally removed over a year ago). Plus yesterday I went to a naturopath, and he did a biofeedback test using the Phazx Bodyscan 2010. Found all of my imbalances. He prescribed me some homeopathic remedies and other supplements to help restore homeostasis. One of the supplements is Intra-Max, one of those organic, expensive, complex all-in-one liquid supplements. But it has ALA in it (25 mg). We didn't discuss my amalgams. I need to call him back Monday (not in office today) before I start taking that. Would this not be safe to take while I still have amalgams? Thank you, > > > > I'm sorry if this is something simple that I'm just not > understanding, > > but if a hair test doesn't meet counting rules (mineral transport is > > okay), it's a good indication that there's no mercury body burden. > > But how do you tell if you just have mercury in the brain? > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Thanks, Heidi, for your reply. I understand completely (I need to get mine out). Was wondering if when you took the herbal chelating concoction and your teeth hurt, was it all of your teeth, or just the ones with fillings (well, I guess you had 13 fillings, so that's much of your whole mouth)? Did you follow Andy's protocol following the amalgam removal right away? How long did it take you to get 13 fillings removed? Did you get symptoms? Thanks! > > Dear and group: > > I and other family members have tried a few different fancy formulas, and it > never worked out. We would feel better for a few days, but then get worse. > I guess I just feel uncomfortable with already-made formulas. I think > herbs, vitamins, and minerals should be more tailored to the person. It just > seems like everytime we have used an already-made formula, some things in it > helped us, and some things in it made us worse. Thus, I am at the current belief > that for long-term, only multivitamin and multimineral formulas close to the > RDA should be used, and then add additional herbs, vitamins, and minerals > for each's needs. We all wish we could take one pill or one formula and get > better, but I just haven't seen that yet. That's why we are all spending years > to get " cured " . Its a journey, but it sure is worth it. I had my fillings > removed, 13 of them, and it is just part of the journey. I didn't want to of > course; I thought surely I could do things to make me well without amalgam > removal. But I took some herbal chelation concoction, and it make my teeth > hurt, and I started getting worse. That convinced me that I really couldn't. > I stubbornly learned that it is a journey, a lot of work, a lot of research, > a lot of money, and a lot of time. But, the miracles that we have had have > been worth it all, of course, and they started immediately. My current > outlook is that I am now happy knowing how to get better, even if it is a journey. > At least now I have the knowledge; whereas before, I was like the majority > of the population, living in pessimism as if my children could never be > " normal " . Those days are gone, they are going to regular school now. They are > not cured, but they are stable on supplements, and I do believe I can get them > " cured " to the point that only an occasional treatment will be necessary. > Knowledge is power. And faith will give you the motivation to proceed. > > Heidi > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 The fillings hurt. I just used a regular dentist who was experienced with amalgam removal, but would not take the extra precautions everyone recommends. He told me, " I don't use that stuff (safety precautions like dammers and oxygen) because I just don't " . Well, I am sure it was not the best thing to do, but I didn't know how to find a good dentist at the time. And I would have had to drive a couple of hours at least to find one. Anyhow, yes I think I am worse for it, but I am on supplements Without them, I would be in trouble, and I will be doing Andy's chelation protocol soon. I have been doing much research and have been visiting this board as part of that, and I now feel that Andy gets my vote for chelation. I got the fillings out, one quandrant at a time. Thus, I did that part correctly. Its been about 4 months since my last removal. They say symptoms peak at about 3 months after removal and then start decreasing. Well, that is me. But remember, I am on supplements to keep the symptoms at bay. I guess I would recommend to you to chelate much quicker with the DMSA than I am doing. I wanted to do research first. Well, my current research and experiential knowledge is to take nutritional supplements to stabilize symptoms, but then chelate for the cure. Because after a year of being pretty much symptom-free, I am my ASD children, the symptoms still return when the supplements stop. Thus, the toxins must come out, or I may have to be on these things forever, and I am pretty much sick of dishing out pills 3 times a day. But it is nice living without those horrible symptoms, so its worth it. Heidi ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Thank you for that, Heidi. I wish you well. Would you mind telling me which supplements are working for you? Thanks, > > The fillings hurt. I just used a regular dentist who was experienced with > amalgam removal, but would not take the extra precautions everyone recommends. > He told me, " I don't use that stuff (safety precautions like dammers and > oxygen) because I just don't " . Well, I am sure it was not the best thing to > do, but I didn't know how to find a good dentist at the time. And I would have > had to drive a couple of hours at least to find one. Anyhow, yes I think I > am worse for it, but I am on supplements Without them, I would be in > trouble, and I will be doing Andy's chelation protocol soon. I have been doing > much research and have been visiting this board as part of that, and I now feel > that Andy gets my vote for chelation. I got the fillings out, one quandrant > at a time. Thus, I did that part correctly. Its been about 4 months since > my last removal. They say symptoms peak at about 3 months after removal and > then start decreasing. Well, that is me. But remember, I am on supplements > to keep the symptoms at bay. I guess I would recommend to you to chelate > much quicker with the DMSA than I am doing. I wanted to do research first. > Well, my current research and experiential knowledge is to take nutritional > supplements to stabilize symptoms, but then chelate for the cure. Because after > a year of being pretty much symptom-free, I am my ASD children, the symptoms > still return when the supplements stop. Thus, the toxins must come out, or I > may have to be on these things forever, and I am pretty much sick of dishing > out pills 3 times a day. But it is nice living without those horrible > symptoms, so its worth it. > > Heidi > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 > > > > The fillings hurt. I just used a regular dentist who was > experienced with > > amalgam removal, but would not take the extra precautions > everyone recommends. > > He told me, " I don't use that stuff (safety precautions like > dammers and > > oxygen) because I just don't " . Well, I am sure it was not the > best thing to > > do, but I didn't know how to find a good dentist at the time. > And I would have > > had to drive a couple of hours at least to find one. Anyhow, yes > I think I > > am worse for it, but I am on supplements Without them, I would > be in > > trouble, and I will be doing Andy's chelation protocol soon. I > have been doing > > much research and have been visiting this board as part of that, > and I now feel > > that Andy gets my vote for chelation. I got the fillings out, > one quandrant > > at a time. Thus, I did that part correctly. Its been about 4 > months since > > my last removal. They say symptoms peak at about 3 months after > removal and > > then start decreasing. Well, that is me. But remember, I am on > supplements > > to keep the symptoms at bay. I guess I would recommend to you to > chelate > > much quicker with the DMSA than I am doing. I wanted to do > research first. > > Well, my current research and experiential knowledge is to take > nutritional > > supplements to stabilize symptoms, but then chelate for the > cure. Because after > > a year of being pretty much symptom-free, I am my ASD children, > the symptoms > > still return when the supplements stop. Thus, the toxins must > come out, or I > > may have to be on these things forever, and I am pretty much sick > of dishing > > out pills 3 times a day. But it is nice living without those > horrible > > symptoms, so its worth it. > > > > Heidi > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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