Re: Oral EDTA - not being tolerated , be really grateful for any thoughts

February 24, 2007

Hi Steph,

This has been discussed many, many times on here, but in short, don't give EDTA

to persons who are mecury toxic...makes them worse. And why the horsetail

grass???

Go to www.onibasu.com and type in EDTA or EDTA and hallcutler and you'll

come up with all kinds of reasons not to give EDTA. The more I read of this dr

the more confused I am as to why people visit her.

IMHO, give oral dmsa 1/4-1/2 mg per lb every 4 hours day and night around the

clock for 3 days. After 3-4 rounds add in oral Ala at 1/4-1/2 mg per lb and give

both every 3 hours during the day and every 4 at night for three days.

NCD is not a proven chelator, it's a supplement that has benefited some kids,

but has aluminum in it.

[ ] Oral EDTA - not being tolerated , be really grateful

for any thoughts

Our son was prescribed oral EDTA to take with horsetail grass. We've

tried this at half a cap, quarter of a cap, within a short time he

goes into a rage and starts banging his head. We've been told might

be lack of zinc so upped that. I think we've been very lucky over the

years because usually he responds positively but on this one, not at

all. He is very high in lead - we know that from his hair, his fecal

metals, his UTM, his poryphirin test and also fairly high in mercury

according to his poryphirin test. Dr Usman is not keen to give him

DMSA.

I wondered if others had found a way to give oral EDTA that didn't

cause reactions? Or should we just stick to Beyond Clean and quit the

oral chelators. We want the lead out of course. What about NCD -

can that chelate lead? He tolerates that very well.

He has had bad gut impaction which we think is now clear after several

months of effort but suspect that his whole digestive system is now

quite sensitised - he presses his tummy a lot. Can EDTA aggravate a

sensitive stomach/gut? Feel like we're going back to the beginning

again! But he has gained a lot of language in the past six months so

we really don't want to quit we're just not used to these set backs

and his head banging and arm biting are pretty scary to witness

Steph, UK, mum of Tom, 8.

February 24, 2007

Steph,

Our little grandson had good response to lead/mercury problems using

DMSA. Blood lead levels were high[as were hair; no porphyrins done]

over a sustained period with mainframe doing nothing

but 'monitoring.' I took EDTA myself once I had all amagam out-can't

tell you how AWFUL I felt[backache, stomache ache and headache]. I

can relate to the head banging!! It took a long time to resolve a

couple of days worth of edta indiscretion. I'm now a firm believer

of Culter's NO edta for Hg poisoned.

>

> Our son was prescribed oral EDTA to take with horsetail grass.

We've

> tried this at half a cap, quarter of a cap, within a short time he

> goes into a rage and starts banging his head. We've been told

might

> be lack of zinc so upped that. I think we've been very lucky over

the

> years because usually he responds positively but on this one, not

at

> all. He is very high in lead - we know that from his hair, his

fecal

> metals, his UTM, his poryphirin test and also fairly high in

mercury

> according to his poryphirin test. Dr Usman is not keen to give him

> DMSA.

>

> I wondered if others had found a way to give oral EDTA that didn't

> cause reactions? Or should we just stick to Beyond Clean and quit

the

> oral chelators. We want the lead out of course. What about NCD -

> can that chelate lead? He tolerates that very well.

>

> He has had bad gut impaction which we think is now clear after

several

> months of effort but suspect that his whole digestive system is now

> quite sensitised - he presses his tummy a lot. Can EDTA aggravate

a

> sensitive stomach/gut? Feel like we're going back to the beginning

> again! But he has gained a lot of language in the past six months

so

> we really don't want to quit we're just not used to these set backs

> and his head banging and arm biting are pretty scary to witness

>

> Steph, UK, mum of Tom, 8.

>

February 24, 2007

>

> Our son was prescribed oral EDTA to take with horsetail grass. We've

> tried this at half a cap, quarter of a cap, within a short time he

> goes into a rage and starts banging his head. We've been told might

> be lack of zinc so upped that. I think we've been very lucky over the

> years because usually he responds positively but on this one, not at

> all. He is very high in lead - we know that from his hair, his fecal

> metals, his UTM, his poryphirin test and also fairly high in mercury

> according to his poryphirin test. Dr Usman is not keen to give him

> DMSA.

DMSA is better for lead.

> I wondered if others had found a way to give oral EDTA that didn't

> cause reactions? Or should we just stick to Beyond Clean and quit the

> oral chelators. We want the lead out of course. What about NCD -

> can that chelate lead? He tolerates that very well.

>

> He has had bad gut impaction which we think is now clear after several

> months of effort but suspect that his whole digestive system is now

> quite sensitised - he presses his tummy a lot. Can EDTA aggravate a

> sensitive stomach/gut?

Yes, it causes a lot of nausea. If you are going to give it (not

that I'm recommending it), start with very small amounts and work

up.

--

Feel like we're going back to the beginning

> again! But he has gained a lot of language in the past six months so

> we really don't want to quit we're just not used to these set backs

> and his head banging and arm biting are pretty scary to witness

>

> Steph, UK, mum of Tom, 8.

>

February 24, 2007

Hi

Thanks for this.

The horsetail plus EDTA is supposed to chelate Alluminium. Which Tom

is also high in!

But frankly I'm most concerned to get the lead out for now!

Steph x

>

> Hi Steph,

>

> This has been discussed many, many times on here, but in short,

don't give EDTA to persons who are mecury toxic...makes them worse.

And why the horsetail grass???

>

> Go to www.onibasu.com and type in EDTA or EDTA and hallcutler

and you'll come up with all kinds of reasons not to give EDTA. The

more I read of this dr the more confused I am as to why people visit her.

>

> IMHO, give oral dmsa 1/4-1/2 mg per lb every 4 hours day and night

around the clock for 3 days. After 3-4 rounds add in oral Ala at

1/4-1/2 mg per lb and give both every 3 hours during the day and every

4 at night for three days.

>

> NCD is not a proven chelator, it's a supplement that has benefited

some kids, but has aluminum in it.

>

> [ ] Oral EDTA - not being tolerated , be

really grateful for any thoughts