Re: The luxury of an AS diagnosis...

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It is SOOOO Worth it! And its exactly what our tax dollars should be used for!

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Hi Marie,

I got someone someone over today from the Coordinated Intake , Developmental Services.

She brought a lot of paperwork to fill out, and apply for services.

According to her, we will get $$ for Special Services at home (up to $10,000)(to use for personal development of the child, for parental relief, for help with therapy exercises etc.), $$ for respite, a monthly check (up to $410.00 if your annual income is less then about $40,000) for Assitance for children with severe disabilities, a disability tax credit.

It is a lot of paperwork, but I seems to be worth it.

Veerle.Marie Downey <rmdowneyrogers> wrote:

Wow I guess I have a lot to learn

From my understanding here in my province of New Brunswick we have been told that children with ASD get better services in Alberta than in Ontario and in Alberta services last longer than in Ontario as well.

That is why we ruled out moving to Ontario as our twin boys are already 11. We did consider Alberta though because services there we w ere told go to age 18 and here our boys are already without many services that would be helpful and our income is too low to pay for them plus the trained workers have to come from another province as ours doesn't have enough to go around either.

Interesting information. Gives me more to ponder. Thanks

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( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...> > > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional accurately diagnose your children...> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating yourself up for not being able to figure it out... > > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who colored his families- family of origin and then blended family- with all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful because of his ignorance... > > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise... I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being correctly diagnosed in th e 2000's... especially the ones who are on the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate- Asperger's kids... > > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones were Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS- committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my first year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid... no one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED- Emotionally Disturbed... but the school d istricts don't want to apply that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something about it... > > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$ to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding academically? > > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I can't make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is... thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia. .. this after he flew from Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on and off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me... > > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD and subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws and all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC> > Carm Cole> Cats never strike a pose that isn't photogenic. ~Lillian Braun~> Photography> http://www.pbase.com/carmcole > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM> > > > > ---------------------------------> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 9:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new >

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Sounds wonderful Veerle,

I hope and pray you are able to access some wonderful services for your 6 yr old son. From what I have heard the services in Ontario are very high quality, so take advantage of them. Yes the paperwork trail can seem rather overwhelming but you will probably find that a lot of it is duplicated from service to service, which should make it easier to fill out.

Because my boys are older (age 11 and my dd is an adult now) getting services is much more difficult, and we have all we are going to ever receive in NB, unless the government changes its policies. Most of the time now the fight is to hold on to what we have and not lose it.

My monthly cheque is slightly more for both my boys. I hope the respite system there is better as the respite system here is silly. We are supposed to receive 48hrs of respite monthly but they only pay us $100 for the 1st child and because I have twins the 2nd one is only worth $50. So I get $150 for 48 hrs which is a joke!

No special needs worker is going to look after my ASD twins for 48hrs for only $150. The special needs workers here charge $10 per hr plus expenses per child and could charge me more than that as I have twins. At $10 per hr in order to have 48hrs of respite I need to pay out $480 plus expenses which was over 1/2 my hubbys income for 1 weekend alone. Trust me didn't happen ever.

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( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...> > > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional accurately diagnose your children...> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating yourself up for not being able to figure it out... > > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who colored his families- family of origin and then blended family- with all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful because of his ignorance... > > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise... I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being correctly diagnosed in the 2000's... especially the ones who are on the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate- Asperger's kids... > > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones were Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS- committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my first year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid... no one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED- Emotionally Disturbed... but the school districts don't want to apply that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something about it... > > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$ to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding academically? > > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I can't make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is... thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia... this after he flew from Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on and off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me... > > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD and subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws and all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC> > Carm Cole> Cats never strike a pose that isn't photogenic. ~Lillian Braun~> Photography> http://www.pbase.com/carmcole > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM> > > > > ---------------------------------> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 9:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new >

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WOW Marie.. I am so sorry your services are so lacking

I have an idea that I have posed here to my friends who are also not able to obtain adequate respite

Contact your local high school staff. As about a suitable

Student who is perhaps looking into getting some

Experience with a special needs child ( or twins !) That you are looking for someone who might be interested in this field. The students in Ontario are required to do 40 hours volunteer time in order to obtain their diploma. Discussing your needs with the school councellor and others can be a win/ win situation. You will have to fill out a couple of sheets.. Really easy .. And this verifies the hours the student has done. You will get some respite.. And you are helping educate future teachers on the ways of the autism world!

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Sounds wonderful Veerle,

I hope and pray you are able to access some wonderful services for your 6 yr old son. From what I have heard the services in Ontario are very high quality, so take advantage of them. Yes the paperwork trail can seem rather overwhelming but you will probably find that a lot of it is duplicated from service to service, which should make it easier to fill out.

Because my boys are older (age 11 and my dd is an adult now) getting services is much more difficult, and we have all we are going to ever receive in NB, unless the government changes its policies. Most of the time now the fight is to hold on to what we have and not lose it.

My monthly cheque is slightly more for both my boys. I hope the respite system there is better as the respite system here is silly. We are supposed to receive 48hrs of respite monthly but they only pay us $100 for the 1st child and because I have twins the 2nd one is only worth $50. So I get $150 for 48 hrs which is a joke!

No special needs worker is going to look after my ASD twins for 48hrs for only $150. The special needs workers here charge $10 per hr plus expenses per child and could charge me more than that as I have twins. At $10 per hr in order to have 48hrs of respite I need to pay out $480 plus expenses which was over 1/2 my hubbys income for 1 weekend alone. Trust me didn't happen ever.

Marie

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( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...> > > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional accurately diagnose your children...> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating yourself up for not being able to figure it out... > > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who colored his families- family of origin and then blended family- with all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful because of his ignorance... > > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise... I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being correctly diagnosed in the 2000's... especially the ones who are on the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate- Asperger's kids... > > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones were Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS- committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my first year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid... no one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED- Emotionally Disturbed... but the school districts don't want to apply that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something about it... > > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$ to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding academically? > > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I can't make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is... thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia... this after he flew from Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on and off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me... > > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD and subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws and all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC> > Carm Cole> Cats never strike a pose that isn't photogenic. ~Lillian Braun~> Photography> http://www.pbase.com/carmcole > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM> > > > > ---------------------------------> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 9:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new >

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Great idea thanks

We did have an awesome gal who had just finished off her 4 yr teacher ed degree and was substitute teaching but she had experience and requested the full pay and she was worth it. She is now in the NWT under the Teacher Induction program teaching a combined Grade 4, 5, & 6 class with only 10 students. She was wonderful and our boys miss her a lot.

I may look into that once school starts here, but I would definitely want someone reliable and willing to learn too. Our high school students are not required to do that unless they choose the coop program and then I think it has to be with a actual place of employment, but I can check it out.

Thanks again

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( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...> > > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional accurately diagnose your children...> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating yourself up for not being able to figure it out... > > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who colored his families- family of origin and then blended family- with all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful because of his ignorance... > > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise... I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being correctly diagnosed in the 2000's... especially the ones who are on the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate- Asperger's kids... > > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones were Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS- committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my first year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid... no one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED- Emotionally Disturbed... but the school districts don't want to apply that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something about it... > > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$ to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding academically? > > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I can't make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is... thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia... this after he flew from Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on and off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me... > > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD and subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws and all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC> > Carm Cole> Cats never strike a pose that isn't photogenic. ~Lillian Braun~> Photography> http://www.pbase.com/carmcole > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM> > > > > ---------------------------------> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 9:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new >

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Remind them it looks GREAT on a resume !! Darn I was hoping that they were required to do the volunteer time like our kids are.

My daughter and her boyfriend are going to the NWT!! Yellowknife ! They are doing a conference there with their teacher as representatives for native children in Ontario!!! My daughters bio father was full Mohawk. I want her to know both sides of the culture.. And some of the issues involved. I think she will do well and so will her boyfriend who is also part native.

Its hard for the siblings of a special needs child to have their own goals . She is not diagnosed with any disability.

-- Re: ( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...

Great idea thanks

We did have an awesome gal who had just finished off her 4 yr teacher ed degree and was substitute teaching but she had experience and requested the full pay and she was worth it. She is now in the NWT under the Teacher Induction program teaching a combined Grade 4, 5, & 6 class with only 10 students. She was wonderful and our boys miss her a lot.

I may look into that once school starts here, but I would definitely want someone reliable and willing to learn too. Our high school students are not required to do that unless they choose the coop program and then I think it has to be with a actual place of employment, but I can check it out.

Thanks again

Marie

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( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...> > > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional accurately diagnose your children...> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating yourself up for not being able to figure it out... > > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who colored his families- family of origin and then blended family- with all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful because of his ignorance... > > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise... I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being correctly diagnosed in the 2000's... especially the ones who are on the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate- Asperger's kids... > > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones were Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS- committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my first year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid... no one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED- Emotionally Disturbed... but the school districts don't want to apply that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something about it... > > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$ to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding academically? > > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I can't make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is... thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia... this after he flew from Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on and off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me... > > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD and subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws and all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC> > Carm Cole> Cats never strike a pose that isn't photogenic. ~Lillian Braun~> Photography> http://www.pbase.com/carmcole > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM> > > > > ---------------------------------> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 9:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new >

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Is it like that in the United States also? Are there services that

maybe I should take advantage of for my son? Thanks .

> > Marie I a m in Ontario Canada and received lots

> of services in my sons daycare

> > He is now in a self contained classroom and gets OT as well.. As

> specialized IEP for his aspergers

> > Are you in Ontario? My son qualifies for disability and gets

> funding for that too! Is there any way I can help you navigate the

> system a bit? Not sure what province you are in.

> > I know it can be tricky and things vary from province to

> province.. But I am here to help if I can.

> > HUGGS

> > .. Mom to Chase and several more

> >

> >

> > -- Re: ( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...

> >

> >

> > It took even longer in Canada for Aspergers to be recognized

> and my dd didn't receive her DX until she was 14 yrs old (2002), 3

> yrs (1999) after my identical twin boys were both DX with HFA NOS,

> which was later modified to 2 separate DXs, 1 son Aspergers

(modified

> DX 2001), the other sons DX unchanged. Our pediatric neurologist

> said he couldn't DX our other son Aspergers because of his speech

> delays. Our boys were 3 yrs old when originally DX.

> >

> > Interestingly enough our pediatric neurologist on one of our

> follow up apts looked at my dh and said " You realize you have

> Aspergers as well, don't you, but I am a pediatric neurologist and

> you are too old for me to DX now, but if I had saw you when you

were

> little I would have never DX you as hyperactive, I would have DX

you

> as Autistic. "

> >

> > He offered to refer my dh to someone who could DX him but my dh

> didn't see the need of it as he had coped his whole life with it

and

> done pretty well. It is on my dh medical file and both our family

> doctor and my boys social worker agree he has it, but he has no

> official DX.

> >

> > Also although my dd received an official DX it changed absolutely

> nothing for us in the way of services. The DX did help her to

> understand why she was different socially, and that made it worth

> it. Our provincial social services are so overwhelmed that in order

> to receive help your DX must be of some severity and hers is mild

> partly because she is female and partly because she was already 14

> when DX. Also we were already receiving services for our twin boys

> so they felt it wasn't right for us to access anymore funding for

our

> dd.

> >

> > Lots of services have been unavailable here such as ABA therapy,

> and social skills groups. We have been fighting for years now for

> these services to be created for our children so they can improve

and

> the province is starting to create them, but my boys were already 7

> before the y were even started. In 2006 our more severe son finally

> started receiving ABA services through the school system. He was 9

> 1/2 yrs old at the time. Our other son receives no ABA services as

> he is not severe enough to qualify.

> >

> > So we have done everything on our own for our dd and have made

> many mistakes along the way, and several things alone for our twins

> as well. I so totally agree with you. I would have loved to have

> known then what I know now, when I was raising her. Hindsight is

> definitely 20/20.

> >

> > Marie

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> >

> >

> > ( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...

> >

> >

> > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional

> accurately diagnose your children...

> >

> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help

> your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating

> yourself up for not being able to figure it out...

> >

> > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge

> has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological

> brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who

> colored his families- family of origin and then blended family-

with

> all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not

> allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful

> because of his ignorance...

> >

> > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise...

> I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being

> correctly diagnosed in th e 2000's... especially the ones who are

on

> the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate-

> Asperger's kids...

> >

> > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted

> that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no

> understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones

were

> Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS-

> committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a

> classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my

first

> year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining

> our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a

> couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm

> sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid...

no

> one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED-

> Emotionally Disturbed... but the school d istricts don't want to

apply

> that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something

> about it...

> >

> > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors

> asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume

> that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are

> smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$

> to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding

> academically?

> >

> > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly

> thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I

can't

> make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing

> something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock

> the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose

> himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is...

> thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia. .. this after he flew

from

> Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>

> >

> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a

> week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on

and

> off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me...

> >

> > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-

> last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH

> took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD

and

> subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws

and

> all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC

> >

> > Carm Cole

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Hi Chris.

It never ceases to amaze me how different things are from province to province, minimum wage, jobs, gas prices, housing, food, medical services, education, etc. etc. etc. The only consistency you can count on is the inconsistency of what is available and what is offered in each province you check out.

I wonder when they instituted the volunteer high school program that you are referring too as it wasn't in existence when I graduated from Grade 13 in Ontario, but that was a long time ago. LOL

We have a program similiar here with nurses but not high school students, where they are required to do some volunteer work each semester and we can get student nurses in our home. But the main goal of that is to educate them about autism. They work with us, so it is not respite.

I think our health community is sadly lacking in instruction when it comes to dealing with special needs as well as our educational community, so it is very beneficial for them and at my household, with my experience trust me they learn plenty.

I have native ancestry as well so I can definitely relate, although mine goes back further than your daughter's does. My great grandfather was full Cree from Northern Ontario but my father was the so called "black sheep" of the family so I know little about my background. Please tell you daughter to enjoy herself and learn lots.

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( ) The luxury of an AS diagnosis...> > > I find myself envying all of you who had some professional accurately diagnose your children...> > At least you can draw from all the resources out there and help your kids instead of wondering what the heck is wrong... beating yourself up for not being able to figure it out... > > When I tell you all that my step-son is 27 and to our knowledge has never been diagnosed... is despised by his older biological brother who has written him off as this major pain in the neck who colored his families- family of origin and then blended family- with all kinds of negative behavior... on a recent visit home would not allow him to stay with him, his wife and new baby... is fearful because of his ignorance... > > The media would have you believe that AUTISM is on the rise... I'm sure it's not.... it's just that kids are actually being correctly diagnosed in the 2000's... especially the ones who are on the high end of the autistic spectrum... Those who can communicate- Asperger's kids... > > As a retired teacher I am SO completely and thoroughly disgusted that so many kids slipped through the cracks...no diagnosis and no understanding... I can actually look back and I know which ones were Asperger's... one of my former students who was definitely AS- committed suicide... in his early 20's... He was taken out of a classroom and put into my classroom halfway through the year my first year teaching... When my students heard this young man was joining our class they were distraught because he was so difficult... a couple years later my husband had the younger brother also AS I'm sure... and again no Dx... no understanding... just a weird kid... no one liked... Most of these kids should have been classified ED- Emotionally Disturbed... but the school districts don't want to apply that label either... that would mean they'd have to do something about it... > > I sit here and cry as I write this... Were all the counselors asleep at the switch? Had they never heard of it? I have to assume that is the reality of it... or was it because these kids are smart... they didn't want to have to squander special education $$$ to meet their emotional needs when they were succeeding academically? > > With a Masters in Elementary Ed...and retired... I am honestly thinking about looking into a PhD-specialized to AS to see if I can't make a difference... Mostly I think I'm just so angry about sensing something was horribly askew, but not being given the key to unlock the door... My AS-BIL is 68- no diagnosis... he tries to diagnose himself... has NO CLUE how horribly socially inappropriate he is... thinks he is an introvert with agoraphobia... this after he flew from Phoenix to Buffalo- alone to attend a 50th HS Reunion... <SIGH>> > I just spent the better part of the last month with them... a week with my BIL and mid-July- mid-August with my step-son... on and off... so this is why this is all so fresh and upsetting to me... > > ? about Social Security Eligibility... Social Security Disability-last January after my step-son had quit yet another job... my DH took him to a counselor- and she seemed to think he could get SSD and subsidized housing... again we are not privy to WHY... HIPA laws and all... his main diagnosis could be Acute Chronic Depression... CC> > Carm Cole> Cats never strike a pose that isn't photogenic. ~Lillian Braun~> Photography> http://www.pbase.com/carmcole > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM> > > > > ---------------------------------> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 16/08/2007 9:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new >

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