Re: Aspies can't lie???

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( ) girls w/ AS

My son is the one dx'd with AS, but now I'm wondering about my 9 y.o.DD as well. I read on this board that girls show different symptoms.I also was noticing the difference in the movie Mozart and the Whale(I heard it was accurate, I don't know). What about girls?Here she is in a nutshell...**Angry, severe tantrums at times, particularly when she was about 4,then again recently.**Severe separation anxiety at <6 months, then again for a 3 monthperiod during 2nd grade. Even though she loved school and herteacher, had friends there, etc, she didn't want me to leave her, tothe point of holding onto me for a very long time each morning, withlots of crying, running into the parking lot to stay with me, havingto be bear hugged by the teacher's aid to keep her in the classroom. Weepy to happy to angry for no apparent reason for the past few months(maybe just hormones...? I hope, and not bipolar disorder!)**Fixation on sea animals and mermaids for a few years, replaced by afixation on dogs for the past year. She has memorized facts aboutLOTS of dog breeds. The dogs at the dog park are her friends, shetalks about them like they are old pals, and remembers all of them byname.**Shoe fetish! Maybe that just comes from being a girl. She drawsthem, designs them, tries them on every time we go shopping, begs formore shoes.**High IQ, great in school, she has lots of "school friends" butrarely asks for friends to come over. She is artistic, and is in apublic school with an arts emphasis. African drumming is her newfavorite subject and her constant drumming is kind of driving us crazy.**She doesn't have much empathy for anyone, kind of self-centered.**She is fine with eye contact, and she is not as honest as my sonwith AS. I read somewhere that aspies can't lie. That doesn't fit her.**Chewing on EVERYTHING, a few food texture problems but not as severeas DS.**Craving sensory experiences, seems to not feel pain. Only reacts todiscomfort if she is really tired. She has always been that way, evenas a toddler falling down all the time. **She can ride a bike, unlike my son, but it took her a while to learnand she got really, really, really angry many times during the process.**Lacks athletic skills, but she is going to gymnastics and is doingpretty well. For both kids, it has been kind of like physical therapy.I'm beginning to read Attwood's book, so I'm sure more similaritieswill come to me, but it's dinner time so I've gotta run.

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Atwood says they can lie. But the lie comes in later than in a typical child due to social immaturity and that the lies are rather transparent and they aren't quite good at it.

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Yes, this is definitely true in my son's case. He's now 9 and still

won't lie. He is truthful to a fault! He is also totally shocked

when he sees someone else lie. He'll need to become more savvy or

they're going to eat him alive in middle school.

During his second grade year his truthfulness even caused me to lose

what I thought was a good friendship. There were two kids in his

class who had been ganging up and bullying him. This was going on a

little while before it got so bad I had to speak to their mothers who

I knew. They spoke to their sons and things were better.

My " friend " was on a soapbox condemning these mean boys who would say

such horrible things to .....when suddenly very matter-of-fact

he tells her that HER daughter was also teasing him!!! Whoa. A few

days later she is telling me that he is manipulating me, and how she

thinks he is misdiagnosed and there is absolutely nothing wrong with

him, basically that I am making up his problems. Meanwhile here is a

kid who couldn't manipulate his way out of a paper bag..and who tells

on himself for every minor infraction!

I let that friendship go. I guess I should thank him, LOL! It's

difficult for some people to see these kids have difficulties at

times because they can appear merely quirky when they are high-

functioning.

--Kim

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> Atwood says they can lie. But the lie comes in later than in a

typical child due to social immaturity and that the lies are rather

transparent and they aren't quite good at it.

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now that makes sense... because my kids do lie but it's not like the evidence isn't usually sitting right there in front of our eyes. Either the boys are doing some of the things we ask them about or we have VERY clever dogs that are very busy while we are sleeping messing up the house and leaving out all their sandwich fixings and leaving lights on. Clever PUPS!! Thanks Ann, Toni

( ) Re: Aspies can't lie???

Atwood says they can lie. But the lie comes in later than in a typical child due to social immaturity and that the lies are rather transparent and they aren't quite good at it.

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I would have to disagree with that theory though. My son often lies to get his younger brother in trouble ( " Jakey hit me " when he clearly didn't) or to get our attention. His all-time best was when he came running into his classroom yelling that the sink was overflowing. His teacher ran back with him only to find that it wasn't overflowing at all. Owen smiled at her and said, " Just kidding. "

On 11/26/07, Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

now that makes sense... because my kids do lie but it's not like the evidence isn't usually sitting right there in front of our eyes. Either the boys are doing some of the things we ask them about or we have VERY clever dogs that are very busy while we are sleeping messing up the house and leaving out all their sandwich fixings and leaving lights on. Clever PUPS!! Thanks Ann, Toni

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Atwood says they can lie. But the lie comes in later than in a typical child due to social immaturity and that the lies are rather transparent and they aren't quite good at it.

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and they get even better at lying when they are teens

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From: kbtoni@...Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:43:18 -0500Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Aspies can't lie???

now that makes sense... because my kids do lie but it's not like the evidence isn't usually sitting right there in front of our eyes. Either the boys are doing some of the things we ask them about or we have VERY clever dogs that are very busy while we are sleeping messing up the house and leaving out all their sandwich fixings and leaving lights on. Clever PUPS!! Thanks Ann, Toni

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Atwood says they can lie. But the lie comes in later than in a typical child due to social immaturity and that the lies are rather transparent and they aren't quite good at it.

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--- Lowry <flyballmom@...> wrote:

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> and they get even better at lying when they are

> teens

> Wags! Wags! Wags!

I totally have to agree with that one! My aspie

certainly does lie. To get out of things. But he can

be so annoying with it. I'll ask him something, and

he'll reply, " No. " Even when he knows the answer is

yes. Then he'll change his mind-just in jest! He LOVES

to do that to me!

-Melinda

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--- Lowry <flyballmom@...> wrote:

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> and they get even better at lying when they are

> teens

> Wags! Wags! Wags!

I totally have to agree with that one! My aspie

certainly does lie. To get out of things. But he can

be so annoying with it. I'll ask him something, and

he'll reply, " No. " Even when he knows the answer is

yes. Then he'll change his mind-just in jest! He LOVES

to do that to me!

-Melinda

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Looks like I have a lot to look forward to. My son is only 4. No lies yet and I am just reading books. It is good to hear the various experiences of everyone out there. It is kind of overwhelming what a large spectrum this is and trying to figure out where your child falls on it. We just got the diagnosis in August and are out of the country. In Indonesia, in fact. We are high-tailing it back home in June though. Man-oh-man have we been stressed-out.

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