Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Can they be sued for providing misleading info and not providing the whole truth? I think it is typical for health depts. to have this stance. Of course the health dept. employees themselves may not know about exemptions (but I would imagine that surely the health dept. directors know about exemptions). I previously worked at a health dept. as a Clinical Nutritionist and I DID NOT know there were exemptions. It apparently is a well kept secret. Are there any federal laws requiring that the whole truth be told in these types of immunization outreach ads? Newspaper article > My children deliver the little community paper to our neighborhood once a week. I was glancing through it last night when this headline caught my eye, " Health Department Helping Parents. " Well, it turned out to be all about how important immunizations are and that they are " required " for children who attend school in Kentucky. It went on to say that a child won't be allowed to remain in school without updated immunizations. > > How convenient, too, that the school and health department will be open later hours and having special immunization clinics set up to make sure children get their shots My kids thought I was going a bit bonkers when I got angry reading the article. I showed them how the article was full of lies. That there was no mention of exemptions. That their use of " required " and " must have " and " won't be allowed to attend school without them " are all blatant lies! > > So, I told my children I was going to write a letter to the editor of the paper and request that they publish Kentucky's law on exemption for immunizations. (I will conveniently provide that for them of course!) : ) I really doubt that they will print my letter (they print some letters to the editor). > > My children thought it was pretty cool that I'm going to do this. I also have talked with them in length about avoiding these shots for the children they may have some day (they are 12 and 13). > > Just wanted to vent. It makes me so mad that no one ever mentions exemptions. I've seen signs out all over in front of schools reminding people to get their childrens' " mandatory " immunizations before school. : ( > > Kay > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Good for you! I noticed for my dd's elementary school that they DID mention exemptions in the policy book,but I doubt most parents take the time to read the whole thing.I did and I don't even know if I will ps or hs my kids when the time comes.To bad you could not have added a flyer to to the paper mentioning the exemptions,but I am sure that is probably a no-no. sara Newspaper article My children deliver the little community paper to our neighborhood once a week. I was glancing through it last night when this headline caught my eye, " Health Department Helping Parents. " Well, it turned out to be all about how important immunizations are and that they are " required " for children who attend school in Kentucky. It went on to say that a child won't be allowed to remain in school without updated immunizations. How convenient, too, that the school and health department will be open later hours and having special immunization clinics set up to make sure children get their shots My kids thought I was going a bit bonkers when I got angry reading the article. I showed them how the article was full of lies. That there was no mention of exemptions. That their use of " required " and " must have " and " won't be allowed to attend school without them " are all blatant lies! So, I told my children I was going to write a letter to the editor of the paper and request that they publish Kentucky's law on exemption for immunizations. (I will conveniently provide that for them of course!) : ) I really doubt that they will print my letter (they print some letters to the editor). My children thought it was pretty cool that I'm going to do this. I also have talked with them in length about avoiding these shots for the children they may have some day (they are 12 and 13). Just wanted to vent. It makes me so mad that no one ever mentions exemptions. I've seen signs out all over in front of schools reminding people to get their childrens' " mandatory " immunizations before school. : ( Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 The thing that made me so mad was the article stated it was " Kentucky state law " to have your children fully immunized to enter public school! That is soo not true! Grrr... Yeah I would just use their words and say, " You have provided incomplete/incorrect information for your readers regarding state immunization laws.Kentucky state laws require students entering public schools to have completed the required list of immunizations,or to have a written vaccination exemption on file.Our state allows both medical and religious exemptions.Please inform your readers of this. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Thank you to those who offered your suggestions and comments. I'll let you know if my letter gets published in the paper. Hey, if it stops just one child from getting unnecessarily jabbed, it will be worth it! Kay The thing that made me so mad was the article stated it was " Kentucky state law " to have your children fully immunized to enter public school! That is soo not true! Grrr... Yeah I would just use their words and say, " You have provided incomplete/incorrect information for your readers regarding state immunization laws.Kentucky state laws require students entering public schools to have completed the required list of immunizations,or to have a written vaccination exemption on file.Our state allows both medical and religious exemptions.Please inform your readers of this. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 I'm not sure Sandy. It sure seems like they could (and should) be sued for it. I am a former RN and never knew there were exemptions for vaccinations, either. I guess it's a secret that they really hope no one finds out. Kay ********* Can they be sued for providing misleading info and not providing the whole truth? I think it is typical for health depts. to have this stance. Of course the health dept. employees themselves may not know about exemptions (but I would imagine that surely the health dept. directors know about exemptions). I previously worked at a health dept. as a Clinical Nutritionist and I DID NOT know there were exemptions. It apparently is a well kept secret. Are there any federal laws requiring that the whole truth be told in these types of immunization outreach ads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 It sounds like you have much to offer the list, Doc. It would be nice to know more about you. How about an introduction? Kay Believe you could make a good case for fraud, though might be an uphill fight. So, what else is new??!! Maybe better would be to file a motion for an injunction...that the health dept. provide reliable, accurate information for parents. I believe that is the way I would go. Incidentally, I appreciated hearing your story. Good for you, Kay!! Lot of lies about HIV=AIDS, too, as I have increasingly come to see over the last few years. Please don't let ANYONE you know take AZT and other antivirals, as these are dreadfully toxic. Anyone desiring more of the complete story may email me directly. No ax to grind..just facts. --Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 If you are writing the information for the public, I'd definitely mention the long term lifestyle changes that are so important for success. Surgery isn't the magic pill that many people think it is. Make sure they know that weight gain post surgery is possible if dietary and lifestyle changes aren't maintained. I'd also mention the typical complications....blood clots, wound infections (more prominent in open cases), death, etc. Just my two cents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 If you send me the article or a copy of the newspaper... I can scan it for you and put it into a PDF file so that you can send it to anyone you like, . Alice Newspaper article Some of you will remember and others of you may not know this yet, but back in October I had contacted the local paper on doing an article on Annika and finally last night we finished up the article. It will be running in the local paper a week from this coming Wednesday, so that would be January 26th. The bad news is that I had hoped that this article would go on their website but it will not. They don't place the part B stories on the site. But the good news is that I asked him to email me a copy of the story so I can send it out. He first said that if I gave him the few emails he would do it but I told him that there are too many to give him so if he could send it to me that would be just awesome. So he will. For those at Northern Voices that don't know, he did come to NV back before Thanksgiving and did interview some of the parents there and spent time in the classroom so this will be part of the article. I will be picking up extra copies of the actual paper and can get them for those that want an actual hard copy. Please let me know if you want a copy of the paper so that I can make sure that I buy enough. Otherwise I will have the story via email that I can send out too. Either way just let me know. Have a great weekend and here's hoping the article is going to be as good as I hope it will be. Mom of 4 Marcus 14 12 Jon 10 Annika 2.5 Bilateral implant 3/1/04 Hookup 3/25/04 spastic diaplegic CP ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 If you send me the article or a copy of the newspaper... I can scan it for you and put it into a PDF file so that you can send it to anyone you like, . Alice Thanks Alice. I will do that. I can't wait!!! Mom of 4 Marcus 14 12 Jon 10 Annika 2.5 bilaterally implanted 3/1/04 hookup 3/25/04 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 You can also find the article in the Children’s Corner under the Children’s CI Stories at HYPERLINK " http://www..com/ " www..com. This makes it easier for those who can’t get into the programs. Alice <For those that want to read Annika's article, I did add the article to the files area on the list serv. Just sign into the group, click on files and look for Annika's article folder. I believe on one of them I did not create the folder so there are just two files for Annika's article. It comes as two because the article covered two pages in the newspaper. Any problems just let me know. > HYPERLINK " http://us.adserver./l?M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2532114/rand=117332979 " -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 2/1/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 2/1/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 : I read through the two pages of the News Paper article on Annika's journey to hearing and Alan and your determination to win over this battle. Wonderful article!! Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Hi , The link you typed did not work for me, it stated it could not find the article. I'd love to read it though! - __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Hmm....alright let me try again!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Great article. I'll check the one out at your website shortly. A mom with 3 SDS kids is at Duke again today. They had talked about doing a double transplant with them, too. Said they would only do 2 at a time and not all three. She had told me a few weeks ago that Duke has done families with two kids and done the transplants at the same time. Would you mind if I pass this article along to her? ~Pattie~ " What matters is not great deeds, but great love. " ~ St. Therese of Lisieux Family website: www.shwachman.50megs.com _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Newspaper article Hi, All ~ Here's the link to an article about our family, that is in our local newspaper today . It's a follow-up on a story they did last year when we were down at Duke for a double BMT. http://www.dailypress.com/features/family/dp-13754sy0may02,0,5097950.story -today's article http://www.nhffoundations.net/synapse/news/fullstory_public.cfm?articleid=21 298 <http://www.nhffoundations.net/synapse/news/fullstory_public.cfm?articleid=2 1298 & website=nhffoundations.net/TatemXHIM> & website=nhffoundations.net/TatemXHIM - last year's article, posted on our foundation webpage Have a great day, ~ Tatem, VA Mom of Kaitlyn,13 (healthy donor for brothers' double BMT) ,10 (XHIM, 1 yr. post BMT @ Duke) , 6 (XHIM, 1 yr. post BMT @ Duke) www.caringbridge.org/va/tatem _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Great article, ! I really like how much emphasis the reporter put on Kaitlyn too! Mom to Conner (11, possible combined immune deficiency, Asperger's, mild CP, partial seizures, asthma, GERD, Hashimoto's disease and resolved adrenal insufficiency), Hayden (11, unknown PID, PDD-NOS, IBS and moderate hearing loss/aided), Evan (11, unknown PID, asthma and mild hearing loss/unaided), and Kelsey - (10, unknown PID, asthma) Please visit us at www.caringbridge.org/in/connersmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I found this article very interesting. Autistic kids fall victim to parents who run amok Sunday, June 04, 2006 DEBORAH KENDRICK Anyone who has been a parent has at least one terrible moment where caring for a child seemed unbearable. Inconsolable infants, recalcitrant toddlers, preschoolers who refuse to sleep. I know; I had mine. Once, my 2-year-old son screamed and shook his crib until . . . what? Until I thought I'd strangle him or drown us both? Who knows? What I did, in fact, was go outside, closing the door behind me, and stand in the blissful silence. I breathed. I probably prayed. And I breathed some more. Then, because parents love their children more than life itself, I went back indoors, lifted my baby out of his crib, and administered whatever caretaking machinations were required until he was satisfied and we both were smiling. None of my children is autistic. They did, however, have special needs, because all children have special needs. But no amount of rationalization or putting myself in another mother's shoes can assist me in wrapping my mind around the actions of McCarron or Agnes DeGroot these past few weeks. DeGroot and her husband, Nicolaas, are charged with setting fire to their apartment in Linn County, Oregon, on May 14. Police reports indicate they locked the windows and door and left. Inside was 19- year-old DeGroot, who neighbors heard pounding on the walls. He died four days later. He was autistic. And then there was little McCarron. She was diagnosed with autism at age 2. Her paternal grandfather describes her as a child who laughed at being tickled, said " I love you " and played with dolls. But autism means many different things in the lives of many children. In 's case, she didn't always sleep well, and she learned to communicate more slowly than " typical " toddlers. Her mother, a physician, and her father, an engineer, had agreed to live apart 20 months in order to get quality services in another state. Finally, though, they agreed it was time to bring the family back together at their home near Peoria, Ill. We'll never know what the little girl might have become or how she might have flourished in her upscale neighborhood with both parents. On May 13, Dr. McCarron confessed to putting a plastic bag over her 3- year-old's head until she suffocated. What is wrong with these people? And now there's Autism Every Day,a13-minute film aired at a New York City fundraiser and again on MSNBC. Some disabilityrights leaders fear it could persuade some people that raising an autistic child is so unbearable that murder, suicide or some combination thereof is understandable. That's where Adolf Hitler's slaughtering crusade began: Put those poor imperfect babies out of their misery and an bring end to their parents' suffering. One mom in Autism Every Day states pathetically that her child will never marry. " How do you know that? " is what my heart is screaming at her. Did anyone know when Temple Grandin was 3 or 6 or 10 that she would become a world renowned scientist and writer? I've heard parents of deaf kids, blind kids, kids with Down syndrome and other disabilities make the same kinds of pronouncements: My child will never (fill in the blank). To all of them I say no human can predict what another human will accomplish. One parent can raise a child who is brilliant, athletic and gifted, but turns out to be a murderer, arsonist, or thief. Another can raise a child who has significant disabilities but becomes an inventor, political leader or humanitarian. To raise a child with autism is a daunting task that takes boundless reserves of energy, vigilance and devotion. As a society, we need to help parents who have been assigned such jobs for which they never applied. But to justify hurting or murdering any child is garbage. A child is the greatest gift there is. A parent who destroys that gift deserves no pity. Deborah Kendrick is a Cincinnati writer and advocate for people with disabilities. dkkendrick@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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