Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 I can't say I was ever angry with God, but I do get angry. I do have my little pity parties. I get mad because I can't get just any teenage baby sitter to watch so I can go out. I get mad because I can't just send him to Sunday school and have a joyous time in my own Sunday school/church. I get mad because when I do have someone watch him, I get the was so bad stories, or worse, they end up bringing him to me 15 minutes later and I still have to deal with him, and I don't get my time at all at church. I do yell when my little rubber band gets stretched too tight (like right about now). I do catch my self asking why he does things, and then answering myself like I suddenly remembered, oh, yea, it's because he's autistic. I do wish sometimes that he was JUST DS, and the autism would go away. And I am very thankful for psychiatric drugs, and then feel guilty for that. I had better stop, before this becomes a rant, and nothing to do with your post. I would say go ahead and mention feelings. None of us are super women. We handle it, but not always gracefully, more out of necessity. And if I hear one more time how I handle it so gracefully and never whine about my situation........I'll scream loud enough for our friends across the pond to hear me... Loriann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 Hi, Everyone..........The lady from our local paper (Kankakee) will be coming Tuesday to interview myself and Gareth for the article on dual dx. I am a bit hestitient about opening up feeling-wise. I'd like other opinions to share with the world here. You can e-mail me privately if you want. Basically, I need to know feelings............am I the only one who was angry with God and the world for this autism crap when it showed it's ugly face? I had just gotten use to the DS child. Do others get so upset with their kids, that they feel an institution is right down the road (before meds, I seriously considered this)? Do other people yell at their kids to stop doing things that we know they have no control over? I am always telling Gareth he's driving me nuts when he gets into his rocking and growling mode. Am I the only one who thanks God for psychotic drugs and feels guilty about it at the same time? Should I just accept my son the way he is without meds? I want so much for him to be a functional human being........meds are the only way for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 Feelings? We get to feel??? Let me just say that I am *tired.* When it was just DS, people were comfortable. We butted heads here and there, but no one felt he couldn't be taught. Now that it's ds/asd, I'm the 'teacher' not the parent getting support. No one's teaching him anything all that extra ordinary. Im *tired* of doing the research. So...how do I fell most days? *tired* But when he grins and runs up to me for a hug and a kiss, the world is right once more. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 I honestly thought was heading for an institution as well before I learned how to teach him better ( for the most part ) behavior. I was, and still am occasionally, thoroughly furious at the double blow. Mad at God on the one hand, grateful for helping me deal with it on the other. I see no reason to not express feelings, but I understand what you may be afraid of. I certainly don't want pity, and I don't want anyone else to say I am whining ( even though I do all the time). What I would really like is for others to just be aware that I can't treat the same way I treat my other kids and how they treat theirs. I have to be louder, firmer, more dramatic, stricter in all ways for him to " get it " at all. I am not being mean or cruel. I am trying to teach him the best way I know how in order to ( I hope and pray) allow him the chance to participate in our world. That is what I wish others would realize. ine ---------- > From: mfroof@... > egroups > Subject: Re:Newspaper article > Date: Sunday, May 28, 2000 5:21 PM > > Hi, Everyone..........The lady from our local paper (Kankakee) will be > coming Tuesday to interview myself and Gareth for the article on dual dx. I > am a bit hestitient about opening up feeling-wise. I'd like other opinions > to share with the world here. You can e-mail me privately if you want. > Basically, I need to know feelings............am I the only one who was angry > with God and the world for this autism crap when it showed it's ugly face? I > had just gotten use to the DS child. Do others get so upset with their kids, > that they feel an institution is right down the road (before meds, I > seriously considered this)? Do other people yell at their kids to stop > doing things that we know they have no control over? I am always telling > Gareth he's driving me nuts when he gets into his rocking and growling mode. > Am I the only one who thanks God for psychotic drugs and feels guilty about > it at the same time? Should I just accept my son the way he is without meds? > I want so much for him to be a functional human being........meds are the > only way for that to happen. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Old school buds here: > 1/4057/10/_/691668/_/959559724/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2000 Report Share Posted May 29, 2000 In a message dated 05/28/2000 7:23:25 PM Central Daylight Time, mfroof@... writes: << am I the only one who was angry with God and the world for this autism crap when it showed it's ugly face? I had just gotten use to the DS child. >> No, Margaret, you are definitely not the only one! Sometimes I just don't know who else to be angry with but God. Who else has control? I sometimes feel like " Hey God, wasn't DS and a whole bunch of medical problems ENOUGH? Why autism too? Can't you give the poor kid a break? " Then I'll hear about someone else's child who has cancer or died or something, and I feel guilty for feeling that way. Sigh... <<Do others get so upset with their kids, that they feel an institution is right down the road (before meds, I seriously considered this)?>> Yes, Margaret, we actually toured two residential facilities because things with had gotten so rough that I became depressed, my husband's health was going down the tubes due to chronic stress (he is diabetic), my teenage daughter was doing tons of extra-curricular activities probably to be out of the house as much as possible, and my 5 year old son was reacting to all the stress with behavior problems! We felt like our family life was spinning out of control and totally revolving around and her needs and behaviors. Now that she has the proper DX of autism, is on an effective medication, and we are finally getting some in-home support, things have improved and we are no longer feeling like a residential placement is around the corner for her. It's difficult to admit that I actually considered this, but I truly feared my family might not survive intact. Bob's father, who was also diabetic, died at 52 - Bob is 50. I felt desperate to make some kind of change, but couldn't bear the thought of no longer being under my care in my house. There was no win-win solution. Many times I prayed, " Lord, why did you send me this child to love and then make it impossible for me to care for her at home? Please help us! " The day after we visited the 2nd facility, I read the Disability Solutions on DS-ASD and the rest is history! << Do other people yell at their kids to stop doing things that we know they have no control over? I am always telling Gareth he's driving me nuts when he gets into his rocking and growling mode. >> Again, no, Margaret - you are not alone here. I get so frustrated sometimes by her behavior that I can feel myself losing my temper and have to go away from her for a time out of my own. Even though I know she can't help the way she is, that doesn't necessarily make it easier to take. << Am I the only one who thanks God for psychotic drugs and feels guilty about it at the same time? Should I just accept my son the way he is without meds? I want so much for him to be a functional human being........meds are the only way for that to happen. >> You are absolutely not the only one who thanks God for meds!! I am thankful for Risperdal every single day since she began taking it and have thanked God because it has meant that I can keep her at home. I don't feel guilty about giving her medication because I can see how much it has improved the quality of her life as well as ours. is so much happier now, my husband's health is better, my teenage daughter is spending more time at home, and my son has settled down considerably. I figure, what's to feel guilty about? I do accept the way she is. The fact that I give her meds does not mean that I don't accept her the way she is. It simply means that I accept the fact that she needs them in order to achieve her fullest potential in life, and I'm immensely grateful that they exist. To me it is no different than giving my teenage daughter Cardizem every morning for the rhythym problem she has with her heart. This particular problem is benign in that it is not life-threatening, but it does make her very uncomfortable and interferes with her daily functioning, so I give her the med and she feels much better. She doesn't need it to live, but she needs it to live with the quality that I wish for her. Same for . I know this was long, but I could relate to it so well. I hope it helps. Good luck with the interview! Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Donna, At the risk of opening the " Religion can " , I have to say I basically agree with you. God doesn't make bad things happen, but he uses bad things for good. If you're a Christian, Satan has to ask God if he can do something to you. Sometimes God will allow it in order to make you a better person, bring someone else to him, etc. Or maybe it's for the better (eternity speaking) for the child who was affected. And please don't flame me, that's just my opinion. Loriann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Your point about the free will does actually fit how I feel. I'm speaking strictly of saved people. God sometimes allows things to happen to draw us closer to him. Before I became a Christian (and I've only been one for about 8 years -after was born), God had to bring me to my knees before I would come to Him for answers. I lost my husband (I chose to divorce him), my son (I didn't want to put through a custody battle so I gave physical custody to DH, maintaining joint custody in major decisions), my childhood memories (because I had repressed memories come forward of my grandfather molesting me), my job (got fired on trumped up charges that had they been true, they would have prosecuted, but since they weren't, they just fired me), and my reputation (I got black-balled). Would I chose to go through that again? No. Would I give it back? No, because it brought me to God. Everytime good things are happening, I tend to forget to praise God for it. I don't want that to sound like when things are going good, and one forgets to praise God, He'll strike you down. That's not what I mean. But when bad things do happen, I draw closer and lean on Him more. We live in an unsaved world, because of free will. Just as I wouldn't want to MAKE a friend love me, God doesn't make any of us love Him. Let's face it, our kingdom is yet to come, this world belongs to Satan. God's desire is for all of us to be saved and have a relationship with Him, and for all the pain to be taken away, and some day it will. In the mean time, I have Him to strengthen me through my trials. Loriann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 In a message dated 5/28/00 8:23:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mfroof@... writes: << Basically, I need to know feelings............am I the only one who was angry with God and the world for this autism crap when it showed it's ugly face? >> Well, I wasn't mad at God. I wasn't mad at Him when Maddie was born with DS either though. I have long since come to terms with my version of God in my life and that is that life is what happens and God is up there coaching us. Truthfully, if I thought God allowed this to happen to Maddie, I'd be more than mad at Him. There's just too much evil and anguish in this world for me to allow myself to believe someone is up there orchestrating it for whatever reason. I know this sort of goes against the grain of what many Christians believe, but it's what I feel in my heart to be true---my version of the real meaning of *free will*. But believe me, I have my times that I'm angry and it's usually at life. I have my cry or whatever else it may take and carry on. ANd Margaret, sometimes it takes a lot more than that!!!! But IMO, the anger is a very normal thing. <<Am I the only one who thanks God for psychotic drugs and feels guilty about it at the same time? Should I just accept my son the way he is without meds? I want so much for him to be a functional human being........meds are the only way for that to happen.>> I don't think you should ever feel guilty for using medicines that help Gareth (note that Maddie is not on meds--just saying that so you know). And I feel that Gareth being on meds has nothing to do with whether or not you accept him. You've already demonstrated that you accept and love Gareth. And you're doing an excellent job. One of the things that I personally have a BIG problem with is feeling sorry for Maddie. Weird, huh? Since I can't STAND for someone to feel sorry for me. I remember those first few months after Maddie was born being overwhelmed with pity for my baby. I honestly never felt angry, but I was devastated by my pity. I didn't want to feel sorry for a child of my own. It took me quite a long time to get over it and them WHAM......out came the autism. I must tell the truth and say that at 6 1/2, I am still dealing with my pity feelings for Maddie----but this time they don't bother me as much as when I dealt with the DS. Maybe I feel it's more appropriate...I dunno. I've been too busy just dealing to delve, ya know?!? But Margaret, no person's feelings on the issue are wrong or right---they're just unique to that person. Many of us have those similar feelings at various times in our life........but you love Gareth and are doing the absolute best for him that you know how. No one in this entire world could ever ask or want for more!! {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}] And always vent away!!! We ALL always care and never judge!! THat's what I love about this list!! I genuinely feel I can speak from the heart and not be judged!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 > Basically, I need to know feelings............am I the only one who > was angry > with God and the world for this autism crap when it showed it's ugly > face? I get very angry that Matt behaves the way he does, and I think I get more angry the others (DH in particular) sees this as much as me not diciplining him as his medical condition with behaviorial implications. Do others get so upset with > their kids, > that they feel an institution is right down the road (before meds, > I > seriously considered this)? Lately, I have been thinking more and more about this. Especially during his track breaks from school, I just get so down because I CANNOT provide the consistency that he needs to function optimally. Or even function at all. I keep thinking that maybe someone else can do it better. I know that no one else can love him the way we do, (Except for maybe Mrs. Ray, his 1st grade teacher), but he needs more than just love. I'd better stop, tears tear up a computer! o other people yell at their kids to > stop > doing things that we know they have no control over? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I > Am I the only one who thanks God for psychotic drugs and feels > guilty about > it at the same time? I had to put Matt on a drug for long term alcoholics and heroine addicts at age 4. Talk about looks from the pharmacists! Should I just accept my son the way he is > without meds? > I want so much for him to be a functional human being........meds > are the > only way for that to happen. > I am torn with this too. Sorry I couldnt' help. Just co-miserate! S ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 AMEN MARY!!! VERY WELL SAID......LEAH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Donna, I am a Christian, too, and I also believe that life is what happens and God is coaching and supporting us. To me, it would be very hard to love a god who put things on you ,just to see if you could handle it! I was very angry at " life " when Reuben was born with all his problems. (He had open heart surgery when he was 5 weeks old.) But if I didn't have God to depend on and get us through, I don't think we could make it. He is our strength. I just have a " pity party " when I get really down. Rant, and rave, and cry. Then I crawl up in God's lap (so to speak) and He makes it better! ita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 In a message dated 5/30/00 2:13:05 PM Central Daylight Time, duffey48@... writes: << I genuinely feel I can speak from the heart and not be judged!! >> I agree 100%. There is no judgement here. I feel only acceptance. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 In a message dated 5/30/00 5:03:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hsmyangel@... writes: << And please don't flame me, that's just my opinion. >> Loriann, I would never flame you. That's the wonder of this list!!! Never mind that I respect your opinion. <<God doesn't make bad things happen, but he uses bad things for good>> I also don't want to open the *religion can* because I'm sure everybody here has their own philosophy.....but since you're asking me.....I don't believe the above. That statement still makes for a very manipulative God and I choose not to believe that's how it works. I won't go into examples since we could all just read the front page of the newspaper. See, I believe it's called free will....something I learned at a very early age. But when I was six and learned free will, it meant to say yes or no to temptation. I think as an adult, it's much more complicated than that. As an adult, it's all in how you deal with the *hand you are dealt*. Let's face it; we all know or at least have heard of people who have kids with DS or kids with autism and are NOT dealing.......matter of fact, kids are being abused or worse. I choose to believe that God didn't plan this----that life happened and that free will happened and that if we love God and pray to Him for faith and strength, we can get beyond our sorrows and work towards bettering the world. That's just what *I* feel. << Sometimes God will allow it in order to make you a better person, bring someone else to him, etc. >> Well, the reason this statement doesn't work for me is because there is so much agony in the world, that the number of suffering is beyond us. I just can't believe that God is up there saying that millions of babies and children *have* to die to prove a point......or to save one...what about the ones that were lost. What makes the ones sacrificed so much less important than those saved? That may work in war theories although I still have a hard time with that. I *do* however feel truly blessed that Maddie was brought to us. If we are better people, it's because she has shown us how to be. Was that because of God? Maybe? But I prefer to think that it was because of our family and trust in each other, which indeed comes from our faith in God. BUT, that doesn't happen to a lot of people and it's my belief that it's false to think that just assuming it's *in God's hands* makes it all turn out ok. ANd life may sound rosy from everything I just said....BUT you all know better. Maddie pooped all over the furniture for the FOURTH time this week (I am calling POttery Barn for a specific cover for our furniture so it doesn't get destroyed more). We went down the shore (against my wishes) at my DH's parent's house because he just really wants to be there (HA HA). Poop everywhere and DH and I were scrubbing and cleaning up all weekend. Maddie is throwing up everywhere also, so I just keep baby wipes and wet cloth handy (GI doc has STILL not called----I'm ready to blow a gasket). I am beyond worried about her reflux condition and losing major successes that have taken us SO long.........But I pray for energy and strength and the ability to communicate my anxieties and angers to those I love. That's what I pray for. And I believe it *is* being Christian. It's what I believe.......may be different than your beliefs. I am a practicing Catholic and have issues with the Church.... you can bet. But I follow a basic philosophy that gets me through.....isn't that really what it's all about! Heck, I've had this discussion numerous times------this is the first time I've said this much....because I feel comfortable!!! Loriann, I admire you for speaking your opinion and hope you respect mine.....I already know you do...{{{{{Hugs}}}] Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2000 Report Share Posted May 31, 2000 In a message dated 5/30/00 5:54:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, heirbornpr@... writes: << Then I crawl up in God's lap (so to speak) and He makes it better! ita >> Wow ita!! I really like that phrase!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2001 Report Share Posted March 26, 2001 Isn't it amazing how the DoD continues to tout how this vaccine has been approved since 1970 and yet they still don't know the proper route of injection nor how many doses are effective? Proof positive that this 1970 FDA approved vaccine is still an experimental vaccine! I do believe that the 1995 and 1999 Investigational New Drug applications submitted by Dr. Myers also proves this fact. I can tell the CDC, FDA and DoD right now how to improve the adverse effects reporting procedures! STOP intimidating, threatening, and giving false medical diagnosis to those that report an adverse reaction to this witch's brew!!! Also, give the troops the proper information on how to report a problem with this vaccine!!! And that bit of honest advise didn't cost millions to research! Marie, thanks for the info and if you run across the link to this story, please post it would you? Bill Marie Schatz wrote: > > Associated Press -Lansing: Anthrax testing to begin > I'm sorry I don't have a link but I'm sure you guys can find it. > Basically it says: > that new tests could begin next week - they will be coordinated by the CDC. > Also says military leaders plan to restart the program early in 2002 if the govt approves Bioports vaccine process at renovated labs. > " The studies that may begin next week won't determine whether there are long-term health effects associated with the vacine. But another branch of the CDC...will look at some safety issues related to the drug and the procedures for reporting adverse effects " . > " The project will seek to determine if the vaccine can protect recipients who receive fewer doses than now required by the FDA and the military " > The human clinical tests will seek to determine whether the anthrax vaccine is best administered under the skin or directly into a muscle........ > > So they are spending millions to determine: > > if intramuscular injections reduce swelling and rashes and > whether the vaccine protects monkey's vs. anthrax with fewer shots > > Great (heavy heavy sarcasm). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Do you have the email address of the reporter? Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 I sent the front page, scroll down to article, click on article and at the bottom of article is his name and email address Coleen AtTheLake wrote: > Do you have the email address of the reporter? > > Rita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Tony Cappasso can be reached at 788-1543 or tony.cappasso@... Article: http://www.sj-r.com/news/Wednesday/n.htm =-) Cheryl http://www.lymeinfo.net >Do you have the email address of the reporter? >Rita -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 Thanks Autumn, I'll be checking it on Sat. le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 KEWL! I'm going to check it out. Thanks for sending! Pattie Newspaper article From Autumn (Mom to Mark Cd5-Cd19 PID) Just thought I would let you all know that our local paper did a follow up story on Mark (first one was done in the summer). Mark will be featured on the front page of The Oakland Press Saturday edition (2-16-02). You can read the article on Saturday by going to: www.theoaklandpress.com A warm welcome to all the newcomers~ Always, Autumn ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Autumn, Now neat! I read the article and I still am just amazed at the strength that you and your family have, especially Mark with all that he goes through. What a great kid you have there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Autumn, Now neat! I read the article and I still am just amazed at the strength that you and your family have, especially Mark with all that he goes through. What a great kid you have there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 In a message dated 2/15/02 3:52:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, autti@... writes: > www.theoaklandpress.com > > Autumn, A great article on Mark! Im sorry he has to continue the shot until August, but if it keeps him going then Ill be praying for less side affects. Did he get his Tony Hawk skateboard? I'll be praying for you and your husband........I know how hopeless it can feel when you can't do something to help. Our local paper also did a write up on .....if your interested it can be found at http://www.chicoer.com/display/inn_recess/recess1.txt le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 In a message dated 8/7/03 9:09:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, srippetoe@... writes: > Can they be sued for providing misleading info and not providing the whole > truth? Believe you could make a good case for fraud, though might be an uphill fight. So, what else is new??!! Maybe better would be to file a motion for an injunction...that the health dept. provide reliable, accurate information for parents. I believe that is the way I would go. Incidentally, I appreciated hearing your story. Good for you, Kay!! Lot of lies about HIV=AIDS, too, as I have increasingly come to see over the last few years. Please don't let ANYONE you know take AZT and other antivirals, as these are dreadfully toxic. Anyone desiring more of the complete story may email me directly. No ax to grind..just facts. --Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 The thing that made me so mad was the article stated it was " Kentucky state law " to have your children fully immunized to enter public school! That is soo not true! Grrr... I'll have to word my letter carefully so they won't throw it in the " crack pot " pile. : ) I thought I would say something like, " While it may be recommended that children's immunizations are up to date in order to attend public school, medical and religious exemptions are permitted under Kentucky law #XYZ which states such and such... " Kay ************** Good for you! I noticed for my dd's elementary school that they DID mention exemptions in the policy book,but I doubt most parents take the time to read the whole thing.I did and I don't even know if I will ps or hs my kids when the time comes.To bad you could not have added a flyer to to the paper mentioning the exemptions,but I am sure that is probably a no-no. sara Newspaper article My children deliver the little community paper to our neighborhood once a week. I was glancing through it last night when this headline caught my eye, " Health Department Helping Parents. " Well, it turned out to be all about how important immunizations are and that they are " required " for children who attend school in Kentucky. It went on to say that a child won't be allowed to remain in school without updated immunizations. How convenient, too, that the school and health department will be open later hours and having special immunization clinics set up to make sure children get their shots My kids thought I was going a bit bonkers when I got angry reading the article. I showed them how the article was full of lies. That there was no mention of exemptions. That their use of " required " and " must have " and " won't be allowed to attend school without them " are all blatant lies! So, I told my children I was going to write a letter to the editor of the paper and request that they publish Kentucky's law on exemption for immunizations. (I will conveniently provide that for them of course!) : ) I really doubt that they will print my letter (they print some letters to the editor). My children thought it was pretty cool that I'm going to do this. I also have talked with them in length about avoiding these shots for the children they may have some day (they are 12 and 13). Just wanted to vent. It makes me so mad that no one ever mentions exemptions. I've seen signs out all over in front of schools reminding people to get their childrens' " mandatory " immunizations before school. : ( Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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