Re: any advice on detox and healing us moms

[Guest guest]

>

> my questions to those of you who have started taking

> supplements and detoxing yourself (moms) what are you

> doing (steps)

Enzymes, certain supplements.

>> and things that you are doing that

> require prescriptions,

Nothing

>> who are you seeing for your

> care.

Noone but myself and certain internet message boards like this one.

> I have lupus and had amalgams on all teeth as a child,

> so I am toxic and I want to take responsibilty for my

I have a " preliminary lupus " dx, which has been mostly resolved now

with the interventions I have done. I am hoping to begin chelation on

myself in a few months.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I am on the following supplements:

Multi vitamins,

B complex

Methyl B 12

Multi minerals

Additional magnesium glycinate, and aminoacid chelate

GFCF diet and beginning the rice free diet as well, (natural and organic food

only and very rarely eating out). I was on Houston Enzymes but had to remove

the problem food as enzymes were not addressing my issues, largly ezcema on my

neck and eye lids.

probiotics

Zinc

MSM

5-HTP

Glutathione

Melatonin

EFAs

Removed all my dental amalgams using a holistic dentist.

And plan to begin chelation in a couple of months.

I am not using a dr but doing the research myself with the help of message

boards and additional reading.

I was rapidly developing the symptoms of Fibromyalgia but the supplements

alone have made a big difference and I am more or less doing well except when

it gets humid and rainy for too many days in a row.

Hope this is helpful.

Haleh

[Guest guest]

I have a lupus diagnosis and had high positive ANAs for 7 years before having my

amalgams removed and replaced with gold (not recommended, but I needed bridges

and

have short interlocking teeth)...my ANAs have been negative ever since.

ANA is anti-nuclear antibodies, which means your body is attacking the nuclei of

your

cells. It is a screening test for lupus.

Autoimmune-prone strains of mice develop positive ANAs when exposed to mercury.

Peace,

Kathy E.

> >

> > my questions to those of you who have started taking

> > supplements and detoxing yourself (moms) what are you

> > doing (steps)

>

>

> Enzymes, certain supplements.

>

>

> >> and things that you are doing that

> > require prescriptions,

>

>

> Nothing

>

>

> >> who are you seeing for your

> > care.

>

>

> Noone but myself and certain internet message boards like this one.

>

>

> > I have lupus and had amalgams on all teeth as a child,

> > so I am toxic and I want to take responsibilty for my

>

>

> I have a " preliminary lupus " dx, which has been mostly resolved now

> with the interventions I have done. I am hoping to begin chelation on

> myself in a few months.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

I would be very interested in hearing how many other moms of ASD kids have an

autoimmune disorder. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and Sjogen's Syndrome, with are

both autoimmune. My Brittany has Raynaud;s as well as the autoimmune reaction to

her DPT at 6 months of age, causing epilespy.

Just curious if there is a connection here or not?

Thanks

Kathleen Eickwort <Kathleen_E@...> wrote:

I have a lupus diagnosis and had high positive ANAs for 7 years before having

my

amalgams removed and replaced with gold (not recommended, but I needed bridges

and

have short interlocking teeth)...my ANAs have been negative ever since.

ANA is anti-nuclear antibodies, which means your body is attacking the nuclei of

your

cells. It is a screening test for lupus.

Autoimmune-prone strains of mice develop positive ANAs when exposed to mercury.

Peace,

Kathy E.

> >

> > my questions to those of you who have started taking

> > supplements and detoxing yourself (moms) what are you

> > doing (steps)

>

>

> Enzymes, certain supplements.

>

>

> >> and things that you are doing that

> > require prescriptions,

>

>

> Nothing

>

>

> >> who are you seeing for your

> > care.

>

>

> Noone but myself and certain internet message boards like this one.

>

>

> > I have lupus and had amalgams on all teeth as a child,

> > so I am toxic and I want to take responsibilty for my

>

>

> I have a " preliminary lupus " dx, which has been mostly resolved now

> with the interventions I have done. I am hoping to begin chelation on

> myself in a few months.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

I heard a lecture by Dr. Cave, MD who has about 2400 ASD kids in her

medical

practice and she said it is the kids from autoimmune families and the kids whose

mothers

are Rh negative and got thimerosal-containing RhoGam, especially during

pregnancy, who

were affected by autism.

The RhoGam shots during pregnancy and other prenatal mercury exposure caused the

most severe symptoms. These are the families that are unable to excrete mercury

in, for

example, the first baby hair, so it stays in the body and causes damage. This

goes along

with Mady Hornig's mouse studies showing that the lupus-prone mice when injected

with

amounts of mercury similar to and timed developmentally the same as what the

kids were

given in the 90s and early 2000s, proportionally, were affected neurologically

in similar

ways.

I would say there is lots of evidence of a connection. I was aware of this

connection seven

years before Ben was even born, when I read about the lupus-prone mice

developing lupus

ANAs just like the ones I did when I moved to the house near the power plant

that was

spewing out mercury through a cracked smokestack. (And the mercury was measured

high

in my RBCs, too.) Interestingly, the pattern of the ANAs was also nucleolar,

unusual for

lupus but exactly the same as the mice in the studies I was reading, when

exposed to

mercury or silver nitrate. In one study, half of the people with nucleolar

antibodies had

lupus, half had scleroderma, but only 2% of lupus patients had anti-nucleolar

antibodies

(antibodies where the body reacts to the nucleolus within the nucleus of the

cells).

Peace,

Kathy E.

> I have a lupus diagnosis and had high positive ANAs for 7 years before

having my

> amalgams removed and replaced with gold (not recommended, but I needed bridges

and

> have short interlocking teeth)...my ANAs have been negative ever since.

>

> ANA is anti-nuclear antibodies, which means your body is attacking the nuclei

of your

> cells. It is a screening test for lupus.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/10/2006 7:02:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

danasview@... writes:

I would be very interested in hearing how many other moms of ASD

kids have an autoimmune disorder. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and

Sjogen's Syndrome, with are both autoimmune. My Brittany has Raynaud;s

as well as the autoimmune reaction to her DPT at 6 months of age,

causing epilespy.

>

> Just curious if there is a connection here or not?

Metal toxicity is a common connection.

dont know if this counts, but, i had gestational diabetes with my affected

son (right now, full blown diagnosis) and i have metal fillings (almagamoms

sp?).

vicki

[Guest guest]

Some paragraphs from these links...

Enzymes are the most heat-sensitive nutrients. As mentioned earlier, food

enzymes are generally destroyed when heated at 118°F (47.78°C) for longer than

15 minutes, and this happens whether the food is baked, boiled, broiled, canned,

fried, pasteurised, roasted, steamed or especially microwaved. Dr Howell

observed this and reasoned that enzyme-deficient food must force the body to use

up metabolic enzymes to digest food. He compared it to a bank account. If you

continually drain your resources and never replenish your holdings, at some

point you are bankrupt. In the case of enzymes, degenerative disease occurs,

with old age following soon afterwards. We are told all the time, " Oh, your

symptoms are related to old age; better get used to it " . Culturally, this seems

true because we have observed it since childhood. We even expect to grow old

with the accompanying health issues associated with old age because we have been

told so.

Granted, our progression from infancy through adolescence and adulthood involves

changes and the appearance of " ageing " . But what if there were substances

naturally occurring in the food and within our bodies that were responsible for

the rate at which we grew older? Dr Howell equated that the length of life was

proportional to the amount of enzymes exhausted in digestion. In other words,

one's length of life is influenced by how much our metabolic enzymes are used to

digest cooked food. Since enzymes are shifted from their metabolic uses,

especially from the immune system, to digest cooked food, we will age faster.

Could this be what Ponce de León was looking for in his legendary " fountain of

youth " ? Some researchers may have given us a clue.

In the 1980s, Dr Roy Walford of UCLA conducted numerous laboratory experiments

on animals. He reduced their food intake and found that their length of life

extended beyond what was considered normal. He suggested that all one had to do

was not eat so much in order to have a healthier and longer life. Walford stated

the obvious, but he may have missed the real point.

Dr Howell found that in fasting there is an increase in available enzymes in the

body due to the lack of food, especially cooked food. In the absence of food,

the body has more enzymes for repair and healing. As an example, there are

approximately 64 different types of enzymes circulating in the blood to clear

waste and prevent the build-up of plaque. When the body is short-changed of

these enzymes, there will be an unnatural build-up of plaque. Why would there be

a lack of these enzymes in the blood? When cooked food is eaten, enzymes for

digesting it must be found somewhere in the body. It is here that metabolic

enzymes are shifted from their normal functions to the role of digestion,

leaving the body primed for future disease.

Signs of Enzyme Deficiencies

Symptoms of mineral and vitamin deficiencies occur relatively quickly. They are

recognised to cause specific illness. Enzyme deficiencies, outside of genetic or

birth defects, take longer periods to be noticed and have only begun to be

recognised in some circles of the medical community. What, then, are typical

signs and symptoms of the more common enzyme deficiencies?

.. If you have problems digesting carbohydrates, you may experience

airborne-sourced allergies, diarrhoea, fibromyalgia or attention deficit

disorder (ADD or ADHD).

.. If you cannot digest fats, you may experience constipation, gallbladder

problems, heart disease or hormone imbalances.

.. If you cannot adequately digest protein, you may experience constipation,

arthritis or other inflammatory conditions, anxiety or panic attacks,

premenstrual syndrome or immune system disorders.

.. If you are unable to break down plant fibre, you may experience constipation,

eczema or other skin-related problems, recurrent yeast/fungal infestations or

excessive weight gain.

The above conditions are also the result of diets high in those foods associated

with the enzyme deficiency. In fact, the foods one craves are those that create

dietary stress due to one's inability to digest them completely. They are also

the foods one has either allergies or hypersensitivities towards because of the

failure to be able to digest them, i.e., because of the deficiency of that

particular enzyme.

People may crave certain foods because of the enzymes found within the food,

which the body needs. But being cooked and destroyed, those enzymes do nothing

for the craving-so we eat more of the same thing, telling ourselves we should

not.

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If you cannot completely digest what you eat, several things may happen.

.. Firstly, the undigested food remnants pass through the brush-border of the

intestinal tract into the blood and lymphatic systems. White blood cells are

stimulated to find the offending material and finish breaking it down. This is

known as digestive leukocytosis. It is an automatic response every time you eat

cooked/processed food. It was thought to be a " normal " reaction to eating, ever

since the early 1800s. However, it was shown to be an unnatural response in the

1930s by Dr Kautchakoff.5 He proved by careful monitoring of patients'

blood that only cooked-not raw-foods caused the reaction.

.. Secondly, the body may begin to consume more than is necessary. Overeating is

one way of compensating for deficiencies of nutrients. The deficiencies are not

due to the conscious restriction of a particular food. As stated previously by

Dr Howell, cooking food destroys all enzymes, thus food will not be entirely

broken down into the micronutrients necessary for cellular utilisation. It is

like taking something the size of your house down to the size of a grain of sand

in order to get inside the cell to nourish it. Enzymes are the only material

capable of splitting food into usable nutrients. Given that undigested food

cannot adequately nourish cells, the brain will direct the person to eat more of

something to make up for what the body did not get from partial digestion. When

this happens over long periods, weight gain occurs with continued loss of

metabolic enzymes.

Food cravings are another sign of incomplete digestion. What we crave tends to

be the food we do not digest very well. The hypothalamus dictates what we eat

based on the chemistry of the blood. So when we eat a particular food and have

cravings for it later, it is a sign we did not digest it very well. We will

continue to eat more of it because there is something in that food we need but

did not get. It has been suggested we are craving the enzymes inherent in that

food before it was heated. Those enzymes we are chronically missing normally

would be found in the food we crave. Dr Howell noted that animals fed

cooked/processed food often resorted to eating their own faeces. He found it was

to replace the food enzymes lost in the cooking process.

The enzyme amylase is a good example of the above. Amylase is one of the major

carbohydrate- digesting enzymes. It is found in the kernels of grains and in

starchy vegetables. By cooking those foods, amylase is destroyed and our body

must secrete amylase from other organs, such as the salivary glands. Amylase is

known as an IgG histamine blocker. It stabilises the mast cells and basophils

that release histamine at the start of inflammatory conditions. One could say

amylase is the body's own natural antihistamine. Antihistamines are prescribed

for allergies, dermatitis and other histamine-type reactions. It has been

observed clinically that people who eat excessive amounts of simple

carbohydrates most often are those with histamine-related health

problems-airborne allergen reactions, allergic reactions to insect bites and bee

stings, sinusitis and other eye-, ear- and nose-related health issues. Sinus or

frontal headaches are frequently associated with chronic amylase deficiency.

In Western society, patients with fibromyalgia tend to have a history of

excessive intake of refined carbohydrates. Aside from the occasional discussion,

there is little distinction made in the general media between simple and complex

carbohydrates. People choose what is convenient. The fast food industry is based

on this notion of convenience. However, when closely examined, most of what is

considered convenient has detrimental effects on our health. The excessive

consumption of carbohydrates will cause chronic depletion of amylase. This may

result in the typical histamine conditions and pain found in fibromyalgia.

It is also thought fibromyalgia is related to excessive waste in the body.

Undigested remains of disproportionate carbohydrate consumption can accumulate

in tissue, since the body cannot eliminate it properly. This might partially

explain the patient response to palpation at several lymphatic trigger points

when being diagnosed. The lymph system removes waste from the body. Yet, this

will not occur very well when too much food is eaten, causing a virtual backing

up of the " plumbing " . Using highly concentrated enzymes with patients who have

histamine reactions alleviates the response within a very short time and without

the side effects associated with conventional antihistamines.

.. Thirdly, undigested food allows parasites and other pathogenic micro-organisms

to live off the waste inside the body. Incomplete digestion allows bacteria to

ferment carbohydrates and putrefy protein, giving off gas. The bloating that

occurs after meals is the result of this. It is trapped gas, unable to move

through the colon. The accumulation of undigested food in the intestinal tract

leads to intestinal toxaemia. It is also known as indicanuria and is responsible

for a number of health-related problems.

Eliminating Nutritional Stress

In the field of enzyme nutrition therapy, it is not just a matter of

supplementing with concentrated enzymes. It is equally important to make the

necessary dietary modifications limiting the intake of those foods known to be

dietary stress factors for each individual patient. This is determined through a

24-hour urinalysis and Digestive Challenge Test© as developed by Dr Loomis. It

is believed that the only real disease is stress. It is how the body reacts to

stress that determines what signs and symptoms of disease manifest in the body.

Within Dr Loomis's system, we work with the following:

.. Modifying diet to reduce dietarystress factors;

.. Greatly improving digestion through intake of plant-based enzymes;

.. Improving bowel elimination by nutritionally supporting those organs involved;

.. Stopping or reducing inflammation;

.. Improving immune function with concentrated enzymes;

.. Supporting the autonomic nervous system with acidic/alkaline minerals;

.. Nutritionally supporting the endocrine system for proper hormonal production.

There is a type of domino effect involved here. By improving dietary intake, you

eliminate nutritional stress. Using plant-based enzymes with meals, the

nutrients from food will be better digested, transported and utilised and waste

will be more easily eliminated. When food is more completely digested, the body

gets the nutrients rather than the pathogenic organisms.

Improving bowel elimination ensures a reduction in toxins being re-absorbed

through the bowels back into the blood and lymph systems. This also prevents

unwanted growth of pathogenic organisms.

Inflammation can be caused by irritation from undigested food both within the

gut and in its passage into the surrounding tissue. Leaky gut syndrome is the

current name given to this phenomenon. The one area where enzymes show

consistent results is in reducing inflammation. Well-documented studies indicate

enzymes resolve inflammation and pain in half the normal time.7, 8, 9 If chronic

inflammation exists anywhere, the body develops stress in its attempts to

resolve it. Over time, this exhausts the adrenals and our immune system, making

it easier for detrimental outside influences to affect the body adversely.

Enzymes in Cardiovascular Disease

Cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in the Western world.

[Guest guest]

>

> I would be very interested in hearing how many other moms of ASD

kids have an autoimmune disorder. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and

Sjogen's Syndrome, with are both autoimmune. My Brittany has Raynaud;s

as well as the autoimmune reaction to her DPT at 6 months of age,

causing epilespy.

>

> Just curious if there is a connection here or not?

Metal toxicity is a common connection.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My oldest child is ASD, I have ADD and probable arthritis and sensory issues, my

mother has lupus/raynauds and newly diagnosed asthma, my one brother has

multiple digestive issues and social issues, my other brother became diabetic at

age 4 and has tremors in his hands bad enough to go on medication to treat, my

father (Gulf War Vet) has colitis and is alway sick. Every person who is

vaccinated in my family has issues. My second child wasn't vaccinated but was a

Rhogam baby...small issues. My daughter was not a Rhogam baby (no more babies)

and is also unvaccinated. She is so smart/healthy and completely NT.

There is a connection.

Ken Maher <kwmaher29@...> wrote:

I would be very interested in hearing how many other moms of ASD kids have an

autoimmune disorder. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and Sjogen's Syndrome, with are

both autoimmune. My Brittany has Raynaud;s as well as the autoimmune reaction to

her DPT at 6 months of age, causing epilespy.

Just curious if there is a connection here or not?

Thanks

Kathleen Eickwort <Kathleen_E@...> wrote:

I have a lupus diagnosis and had high positive ANAs for 7 years before having

my

amalgams removed and replaced with gold (not recommended, but I needed bridges

and

have short interlocking teeth)...my ANAs have been negative ever since.

ANA is anti-nuclear antibodies, which means your body is attacking the nuclei of

your

cells. It is a screening test for lupus.

Autoimmune-prone strains of mice develop positive ANAs when exposed to mercury.

Peace,

Kathy E.

> >

> > my questions to those of you who have started taking

> > supplements and detoxing yourself (moms) what are you

> > doing (steps)

>

>

> Enzymes, certain supplements.

>

>

> >> and things that you are doing that

> > require prescriptions,

>

>

> Nothing

>

>

> >> who are you seeing for your

> > care.

>

>

> Noone but myself and certain internet message boards like this one.

>

>

> > I have lupus and had amalgams on all teeth as a child,

> > so I am toxic and I want to take responsibilty for my

>

>

> I have a " preliminary lupus " dx, which has been mostly resolved now

> with the interventions I have done. I am hoping to begin chelation on

> myself in a few months.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

I've heard many people with ASD kids that have autoimmune disease in

the family. My father's side of the family all had diabetes. My

husband's family also has much diabetes. My mother has scleroderma

(which changed from systemic to localized with high dose vitamin E

therapy). We also have many allergies. At one time I had an elevated

rheumatoid factor and was told by my doctor to expect some form of

autoimmune problem in the future because of my family history. It

returned to normal on it's own and so far I've had no problems.

[Guest guest]

I am planning on having my amalgams replaced soon but what is SAFE

to replace them with? I've heard porcelain is also toxic because it

is formed in a nickel mold.

> > >

> > > my questions to those of you who have started taking

> > > supplements and detoxing yourself (moms) what are you

> > > doing (steps)

> >

> >

> > Enzymes, certain supplements.

> >

> >

> > >> and things that you are doing that

> > > require prescriptions,

> >

> >

> > Nothing

> >

> >

> > >> who are you seeing for your

> > > care.

> >

> >

> > Noone but myself and certain internet message boards like this

one.

> >

> >

> > > I have lupus and had amalgams on all teeth as a child,

> > > so I am toxic and I want to take responsibilty for my

> >

> >

> > I have a " preliminary lupus " dx, which has been mostly resolved

now

> > with the interventions I have done. I am hoping to begin

chelation on

> > myself in a few months.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That article about enzyme deficiencies is very very interesting to

me. I was reading a little about this on the Enzymedica site too,

and it has a part where you can take a short test to see which

category you fit into (in terms of which enzymes you are deficient

in). But my question is, what is the easiest and most cost-

effective way to combat this issue? Combination of eating more raw

foods and enzymes? After I took that test I mentioned, it was

determined that I was very protease deficient and slightly amalyse

deficient (sp?), so the recommendations for me include 3 different

types of their enzymes each day, in large quantities, in addition to

modified diet. I went to a webiste to order them for a trial run,

and noticed it would be about $80/month for me to follow their

recommendations - there is absolutely no way I can afford that.

$30/month would be really pushing it. I guess this is my main gripe

with all of these more natural cures - I take 3 different

prescriptions for asthma and allergies that end up costing me $10

total for a 3-month supply, yet to try these enzymes it will be

$80/month? Does anyone have any suggestions, because as you can

probably tell from my tone, I'm getting a little frustrated here...

I'd also (first and foremost) like to find the right enzymes for my

daughter, but the cost has left me sitting on the sidelines of this

board! As it is we spend around $150/month on her stuff - probably

a pittance compared to some of you, but we're at the breaking point

here!

Kerri

[Guest guest]

I take a multivitamin, 400 mg of B2, omega threes, mg/cal supplement

and various misc. supplements that vary--occasional enzymes and

probiotics. Most of the things I give my son I try out on myself

first.

I had my amalgams out by a holistic dentist and my son and I both

started on dmsa at the start of the year.

My son has Asperger's. I don't have anything technically other than

migraines (mainly hormonal) that had become pretty debilitating,

insomnia and I am starting to have issues with lethargy and

disorganization. Both my parents had some neurological issues

before they died--different doctors said different things, you know

the drill.

My new physician is " integrative light " and my son sees a DAN!

doctor. My migraines temporarily got worse immediately following

the amalgam removals but now seem to be turning the corner (knock on

wood!!!) Lately I've had more energy too.

>

> my questions to those of you who have started taking

> supplements and detoxing yourself (moms) what are you

> doing (steps) and things that you are doing that

> require prescriptions, who are you seeing for your

> care. ( even moms who have started chelation, I want

> your stories as well.) I appreciate all advice and as

> I have lupus and had amalgams on all teeth as a child,

> so I am toxic and I want to take responsibilty for my

> health to be there for my son, and possible other

> children one day.

> Selena

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerri,

I'm brand-new on this list so I'm not familiar with all the products

people are talking about. But I wanted to mention that I've had very

good luck with an enzyme product I get from my doctor. It's called

Similase, by Tyler Plant Enzymes. The cost is $40 for 180 capsules,

which lasts either one month or two months, depending on how much you use.

Here's what it contains:

Amylase

Protease I, II, III, IV

Lipase I, II

Lactase I, II

Phytase

Cellulase I, II

Sucrase (invertase)

Maltase (malt diastase)

Other ingredients: natural polysaccharide capsule and cellulose

Best,

G.

Kerri wrote:

> But my question is, what is the easiest and most cost-

> effective way to combat this issue? Combination of eating more raw

> foods and enzymes?...it would be about $80/month for me to follow their

> recommendations....

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for the info. I'll look into it.

Kerri

>

> > But my question is, what is the easiest and most cost-

> > effective way to combat this issue? Combination of eating more

raw

> > foods and enzymes?...it would be about $80/month for me to

follow their

> > recommendations....

>