Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 God, does that sound familiar. My son's thing right now is tape. He wants me to keep pulling off a piece so he can put it on something. Or he wants to put things on or around objects. Like especially the metal thing on a pen...he wants it to be put on a piece of paper so it lines up perfectly over and over again. I am about to lose my mind! > > Does anyone have any advice for me on this? > My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. > Just now, he had 2 tiny pieces of lego, he kept handing them to me to > snap them together, so I did and handed them back to him, and he would > pull them apart and hand them back to me to be put back together, and > so on... > After about 30 or 40 times, I finally put them in my pocket hoping he > would forget about them (if I didn't, it would go on and on and on...) > He threw himself on my bed, and screamed, and cried hysterically for a > good 20 minutes or more. > This is typical at my house. It's very hard to deal with him- he's non- > verbal so you can't tell him to stop or reason with him because he > doesn't understand you. > Any advice would be really appreciated, because I just don't know what > to do when he melts down like that. > Thanks. > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 When my kids do these things, it is yeast. My daughter's latest yeast thing is needing to rip paper into tiny equal pieces, with many permutations on how that's supposed to go, and what can go wrong with that; at least it doesn't involve participation. lol. Consider increasing your yeast protocol, or get one, if you don't have one. Amy > > > > Does anyone have any advice for me on this? > > My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. > > Just now, he had 2 tiny pieces of lego, he kept handing them to me > to > > snap them together, so I did and handed them back to him, and he > would > > pull them apart and hand them back to me to be put back together, > and > > so on... > > After about 30 or 40 times, I finally put them in my pocket hoping > he > > would forget about them (if I didn't, it would go on and on and > on...) > > He threw himself on my bed, and screamed, and cried hysterically > for a > > good 20 minutes or more. > > This is typical at my house. It's very hard to deal with him- he's > non- > > verbal so you can't tell him to stop or reason with him because he > > doesn't understand you. > > Any advice would be really appreciated, because I just don't know > what > > to do when he melts down like that. > > Thanks. > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. Hi For us, OCD /repetitive behaviours like you describe are viral indicators. Increasing / adding anti-viral supplements should help out. Good luck :-) Quote
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Almost a week ago, I started him on Nystatin for yeast, but I don't think I am giving him any anti-viral supplements. Could you tell me what some anti-viral supplements would be? Thanks. Amber. On 1/7/06, Haks <cathy@...> wrote: > > My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. > > > > > Hi > > For us, OCD /repetitive behaviours like you describe are viral indicators. > Increasing / adding anti-viral supplements should help out. > > Good luck > > :-) > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Almost a week ago, I started him on Nystatin, will that eventually help this? Amber. On 1/7/06, noahsmom7898 <noahsmom7898@...> wrote: > > When my kids do these things, it is yeast. My daughter's latest > yeast thing is needing to rip paper into tiny equal pieces, with > many permutations on how that's supposed to go, and what can go > wrong with that; at least it doesn't involve participation. lol. > > Consider increasing your yeast protocol, or get one, if you don't > have one. > > Amy > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any advice for me on this? > > > My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. > > > Just now, he had 2 tiny pieces of lego, he kept handing them to > me > > to > > > snap them together, so I did and handed them back to him, and he > > would > > > pull them apart and hand them back to me to be put back > together, > > and > > > so on... > > > After about 30 or 40 times, I finally put them in my pocket > hoping > > he > > > would forget about them (if I didn't, it would go on and on and > > on...) > > > He threw himself on my bed, and screamed, and cried hysterically > > for a > > > good 20 minutes or more. > > > This is typical at my house. It's very hard to deal with him- > he's > > non- > > > verbal so you can't tell him to stop or reason with him because > he > > > doesn't understand you. > > > Any advice would be really appreciated, because I just don't > know > > what > > > to do when he melts down like that. > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Could you tell me what some anti-viral supplements would be? Hi Amber OLE (olive leaf extract) is useful. The enzyme " Virastop " by Enzymedica is very effective - best given on an empty stomach which can be tricky. A high dose Vit A protocol is also effective (look it up on Dana's site). Others mention Lauricidin and Monolaurin as good antivirals but I have not used these. Beware that as you eliminate the viruses, the yeast will probably get worse (sigh!). Dana (the yeast expert) recently noted that her best success against yeasts has been with Biotin and No Fenol. In the past we'd heard best successes with rotating different anti-fungals so none of the many different varieties of yeast can get too well established. The Nystatin you're using is a good start, but won't necessarily knock out all the different types of yeast. Introducing a probiotic which helps colonize the gut with good guys also helps as then there's less room for the bad guys. Good luck :-) Quote
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Here is are two links with information on viruses, one on enzymes and viruses and the other on more general viral information along with other supplements besides enzymes that may help with viruses: http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QI7AQ8tFfQP7LTNqp2_DVYqmTnq0Wr0PIx_iENYvOMz apJUxtE9hboLhekDHqQxuNgDxTgyzMU-je_tCOB2-/Viral%20Information%20and% 20Resources.htm . Quote
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 Hi : Is this second url for real? Re: I really need help > Here is are two links with information on viruses, one on enzymes and > viruses and the other on more general viral information along with > other supplements besides enzymes that may help with viruses: > > http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm > > http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QI7AQ8tFfQP7LTNqp2_DVYqmTnq0Wr0PIx_iENYvOMz > apJUxtE9hboLhekDHqQxuNgDxTgyzMU-je_tCOB2-/Viral%20Information%20and% > 20Resources.htm > > . > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 > > Does anyone have any advice for me on this? > My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. OCD behaviors, for my son, meant virus issues. I use ViraStop enzyme, OLE, and a few other things for this. Dana Quote
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 > A high dose Vit A protocol is also effective (look it up on Dana's site). My page http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm > Beware that as you eliminate the viruses, the yeast will probably get worse > (sigh!). Dana (the yeast expert) recently noted that her best success > against yeasts has been with Biotin and No Fenol. And Candidase, and GSE is the hard hitter. >>Introducing a probiotic which helps colonize the > gut with good guys also helps as then there's less room for the bad guys. This is a good idea also. Dana Quote
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 You could also check out the viral file in the files section. It has a list, although it is an incomplete one. Anita > > Could you tell me what some anti-viral supplements would be? > > > > Hi Amber > > OLE (olive leaf extract) is useful. The enzyme " Virastop " by Enzymedica is > very effective - best given on an empty stomach which can be tricky. > > A high dose Vit A protocol is also effective (look it up on Dana's site). > Others mention Lauricidin and Monolaurin as good antivirals but I have not > used these. > > > > Beware that as you eliminate the viruses, the yeast will probably get worse > (sigh!). Dana (the yeast expert) recently noted that her best success > against yeasts has been with Biotin and No Fenol. In the past we'd heard > best successes with rotating different anti-fungals so none of the many > different varieties of yeast can get too well established. The Nystatin > you're using is a good start, but won't necessarily knock out all the > different types of yeast. Introducing a probiotic which helps colonize the > gut with good guys also helps as then there's less room for the bad guys. > > > > Good luck > > :-) > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 I don't think he is obsessing over the lego pieces, I think he is obsessing over interacting with mommy. He doesn't know how, though, so he is doing something like the baby who keeps dropping food off the highchair to watch the grownups put it together. Note that he threw himself on *your* bed when he melted down. Actually I think this is a good thing...you just need to know how to take advantage of it...next time continue to interact with him, but change what you do, just a little, to challenge him. Put together three pieces or put one on your nose instead to make him laugh...it's an opportunity for " circles of interaction " that Greenspan talks about in The Child with Special Needs...hope I got that author right. Yep, it's Stanley, though, not the financial guy... Make a small change in his game, so he has to change what he is doing. BTW that is a very good book. It sounds to me like your son is trying to draw you into his world. And he is very persistant about it. Do you use PECS or some other visual way to communicate with him? Please excuse the advice but you asked for some... Peace, Kathy E. Kathleen_E@... -- In , " kennetheriklucy " <eislerfamily@g...> wrote: > > Does anyone have any advice for me on this? > My almost 5 yr old asd son obsesses over little objects. > Just now, he had 2 tiny pieces of lego, he kept handing them to me to > snap them together, so I did and handed them back to him, and he would > pull them apart and hand them back to me to be put back together, and > so on... > After about 30 or 40 times, I finally put them in my pocket hoping he > would forget about them (if I didn't, it would go on and on and on...) > He threw himself on my bed, and screamed, and cried hysterically for a > good 20 minutes or more. > This is typical at my house. It's very hard to deal with him- he's non- > verbal so you can't tell him to stop or reason with him because he > doesn't understand you. > Any advice would be really appreciated, because I just don't know what > to do when he melts down like that. > Thanks. > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 Hi Dana, I recently finished vitamin A protocol. I gave him synthetic vitamin A 40000 IU(twinlab) for two days and now give him one and a half spoon of clo every day for mainteneance. But I do not see any unusual behavior either way. Since I was suspecting his regression after measles shot I guess I will have to retry about 6 month later. Do you think this is an ok idea? I am giving my son 20 capsules of virastop mixed in small amount of yogurt now since he can't swallow capsules. Do you think it is still effective enough. It says that it should be given in empty stomach and I do not see any signs either way yet(he is on virastop for 1 week now). Also I know that I have to reduce dosage gradually after three weeks. But do I give him none eventually or I have to give him maintenance dosage every day? My son is autistic with lots of ocd behavior. And I'd like to try other ways if there are more options. When you were using ole together with virastop, in what ratio did you use these two together? Thanks! Connie > > A high dose Vit A protocol is also effective (look it up on Dana's > site). > > > My page > > http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm > > > > Beware that as you eliminate the viruses, the yeast will probably > get worse > > (sigh!). Dana (the yeast expert) recently noted that her best success > > against yeasts has been with Biotin and No Fenol. > > > And Candidase, and GSE is the hard hitter. > > > >>Introducing a probiotic which helps colonize the > > gut with good guys also helps as then there's less room for the bad > guys. > > > This is a good idea also. > > Dana > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Did anybody get this second link up? A tiny url? Re: I really need help > Here is are two links with information on viruses, one on enzymes and > viruses and the other on more general viral information along with > other supplements besides enzymes that may help with viruses: > > http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm > > http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QI7AQ8tFfQP7LTNqp2_DVYqmTnq0Wr0PIx_iENYvOMz > apJUxtE9hboLhekDHqQxuNgDxTgyzMU-je_tCOB2-/Viral%20Information%20and% > 20Resources.htm > > . > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Posted January 10, 2006 > > Hi Dana, > > I recently finished vitamin A protocol. I gave him synthetic vitamin A 40000 IU(twinlab) for > two days You wrote 40,000. It needs to be 400,000. And I used TwinLab, altho it has since been discontinued. The TwinLab I used was retinyl acetate, which has a 15% potency loss. So I had to use 500,000 IU per day to make up for that. Info here http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm >>But I > do not see any unusual behavior either way. Since I was suspecting his regression after > measles shot I guess I will have to retry about 6 month later. Do you think this is an ok > idea? I had to do it twice, the second time was more than 500,000 IU, plus I had to add OLE. I did the two protocols one month apart, altho it is recommended to do 6 months apart. > I am giving my son 20 capsules of virastop mixed in small amount of yogurt now since he > can't swallow capsules. Do you think it is still effective enough. Probably, altho you can try giving it mixed in honey, that might be more effective. It says that it should be > given in empty stomach and I do not see any signs either way yet(he is on virastop for 1 > week now). Also I know that I have to reduce dosage gradually after three weeks. Why do you reduce the dose of ViraStop? I had to give high doses of anti-virals for an entire year. >>When you were using ole together with virastop, in what ratio did you use these > two together? 2000mg OLE plus 4 capsules ViraStop 3x per day. Dana Quote
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