Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism >> I totally agree with her on that, there are NO miracle cures but there is lots of hope and kkids improving all over the place. If the mainstream emdics knew this we would hardly need these groups would we? You need to come to the TA conference in Bournemouth and see and hear it for yourself - so does your paed but I have already sent flyers to EVERY SINGLE paed in the UK and not one single one of them has responded............ www.TreatingAutismConferences.com Hope to see you soon! Mandi Rodwell Team TA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I'm shocked, not even one ! Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Dear Gloria and , Don't be discouraged. Years ago the " best pediatric neurologist on the East Coast " told us that patterning was a useless thing to do for our daughter. We, of course, ignored him, and patterned and had miraculous results. Most of the medical profession is years and years behind in helpful things to do. They are not the people to consult. I guess You know about DAN doctors (Defeat Autism Now)? And to read about patterning: _www.IAHP.org_ (http://www.IAHP.org) Have a good heart. Your son can get better -- can be healed! with Love, Francine In a message dated 1/29/2007 3:24:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, carlchiv@... writes: We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since we feel discourage. Thanks Gloria and Zamora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 How many people are coming to the conference? 220 and counting, registrations flying in now........................ Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Gloria, My son has not been diagnosed with Autism, but has some of the behaviors, Hand flapping, mild obsessions. He is dev. delayed with major speech delays, so our situation is a little different. Our Pediatrician also thought the diet, enzymes, etc. was a bunch of " hocus pocus " 6 years ago when we started the diet and a little later the enzymes. Now she is amazed at the changes in him and is always telling me that we have brought him so much farther than she ever thought he would be. The diet and supplements you can do without a Dr, as we did. Now our Pediatrician will sign if we need a Dr note for testing or at the school for them to give our son his enzymes. Just wanted to let you know that you dont have to be discouraged just because a regular Dr is not convinced that the diet and supplements can help. Hugs, Rhonda in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 If any of us listened to narrow minded pediatricians then there wouldn't be this list! My dd's pediatrician told us nothing was wrong with dd for 2 years! She has PDD-NOS ultimately diagnosed because a pre-school screening clearly showed she had issues. I think all of us have run across doctors like that. Did she have anything constructive to say? What procedures was she referring to? Did she have any recommendations, suggestions? I would guess she didn't because she is uneducated about biomedical. There is so much hope! My dd has made so much progress with biomedical interventions along with traditional speech therapy and OT. Are you seeing a DAN! doctor? Have you read Enzymes for Autism by DeFelice or Children with Starving Brains by McCandless? Check out www.danasview.net. She recovered her son diagnosed with classic Kanner's autism with biomedical. Please do not let one person dim your hopes or spirit. There are pediatricians out there that will support what you are pursuing and may even help you along. We are all here for you as well. Good luck, > > We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep > throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise > her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any > therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the > biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful > since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of > put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. > She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your > opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since > we feel discourage. > > Thanks > Gloria and Zamora > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi, It's hard to read between the lines with emails....Was her response totally negative or just a warning about doing biomedical therapies? I ask because my two sons' (who are ASD) ped is not happy that we are doing chelation or have stopped vaccines....However, they will write scrips for any tests we need. One of the three docs said he understood as a parent that we need to know that we have done all we can to help our sons. Plus he sees that they are doing very well. I have learned to have a thick skin with people who would other wise not understand our kids...(They look normal....) or our therapies.... My response would be if to go with your gut....If the doc was just warning that there are quacks out there, then I wouldn't take it personally. If they seemed belittling or looked down their nose to you, then I would find another doctor.... Sorry I couldn't be of more help...But I'm sure others will be able to give you more insight. Good luck. in NJ carlchiv10 <carlchiv@...> wrote: We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since we feel discourage. Thanks Gloria and Zamora --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Gloria and , I agree that there is no " miracle cure " for autism, but a lot of research and effort sure can make a huge difference. As you go down this path, you will learn how doctors like your pediatrician know precious little about the body and all of its complexities. Unfortunately, these wonderful docs have left it up to us to figure it out.... Anne > > We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep > throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise > her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any > therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the > biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful > since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of > put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. > She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your > opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since > we feel discourage. > > Thanks > Gloria and Zamora > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 HI Mandi, How many people are coming to the conference? Elaine From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Mum231ASD@... Sent: 29 January 2007 20:57 Autism Treatment Subject: Re: Lack of hope from pediatrician In a message dated 29/01/2007 20:22:57 GMT Standard Time, carlchivmsn writes: She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism >> I totally agree with her on that, there are NO miracle cures but there is lots of hope and kkids improving all over the place. If the mainstream emdics knew this we would hardly need these groups would we? You need to come to the TA conference in Bournemouth and see and hear it for yourself - so does your paed but I have already sent flyers to EVERY SINGLE paed in the UK and not one single one of them has responded............ www.TreatingAutismConferences.com Hope to see you soon! Mandi Rodwell Team TA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 28/01/2007 13:12 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 28/01/2007 13:12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 That is terrible Mandi that not one paed in the country is at all interested! What a society we live in. Peta x- -- In Autism Treatment , Mum231ASD@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 29/01/2007 20:22:57 GMT Standard Time, carlchiv@... > writes: > > She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism > > > >> I totally agree with her on that, there are NO miracle cures but there is > lots of hope and kkids improving all over the place. If the mainstream > emdics knew this we would hardly need these groups would we? > > You need to come to the TA conference in Bournemouth and see and hear it > for yourself - so does your paed but I have already sent flyers to EVERY SINGLE > paed in the UK and not one single one of them has responded............ > > _www.TreatingAutismConferences.com_ > (http://www.TreatingAutismConferences.com) > > Hope to see you soon! > > Mandi Rodwell > Team TA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 My daughter's first doc said your chilodhas autism We don't know what causes it and there is no cure.........................Then I learned of GFCF diet and asked him about it ..........He said why would you want to do that ....What can you feed her ? I t won't help.................Glad I ignored him. Lots of kids are getting better....Keep up the good work for your child Jen <misheemom@...> wrote: Hi, It's hard to read between the lines with emails....Was her response totally negative or just a warning about doing biomedical therapies? I ask because my two sons' (who are ASD) ped is not happy that we are doing chelation or have stopped vaccines....However, they will write scrips for any tests we need. One of the three docs said he understood as a parent that we need to know that we have done all we can to help our sons. Plus he sees that they are doing very well. I have learned to have a thick skin with people who would other wise not understand our kids...(They look normal....) or our therapies.... My response would be if to go with your gut....If the doc was just warning that there are quacks out there, then I wouldn't take it personally. If they seemed belittling or looked down their nose to you, then I would find another doctor.... Sorry I couldn't be of more help...But I'm sure others will be able to give you more insight. Good luck. in NJ carlchiv10 <carlchiv@...> wrote: We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since we feel discourage. Thanks Gloria and Zamora --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Pediatricians cannot give you hope. They are hopeless when it comes to autism. Only self-study and the Internet can give you hope and, hopefully, success. On The View today they showed a completely cured, formerly autistic child, or so he seemed. They also showed a child still impaired at 17. Stay around awhile and you will learn hope. --- <misheemom@...> wrote: > Hi, > It's hard to read between the lines with > emails....Was her response totally negative or just > a warning about doing biomedical therapies? I ask > because my two sons' (who are ASD) ped is not happy > that we are doing chelation or have stopped > vaccines....However, they will write scrips for any > tests we need. One of the three docs said he > understood as a parent that we need to know that we > have done all we can to help our sons. Plus he sees > that they are doing very well. > I have learned to have a thick skin with people > who would other wise not understand our kids...(They > look normal....) or our therapies.... > > My response would be if to go with your gut....If > the doc was just warning that there are quacks out > there, then I wouldn't take it personally. If they > seemed belittling or looked down their nose to you, > then I would find another doctor.... > Sorry I couldn't be of more help...But I'm sure > others will be able to give you more insight. Good > luck. > in NJ > > carlchiv10 <carlchiv@...> wrote: > We took our son to his pediatrician today, > because our son has strep > throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are > consulting. We advise > her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we > where following any > therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting > to introduce the > biomedical approach. She immediately told us to > really be careful > since none of these procedures are medically > approved. That kind of > put our hopes down, since we are new and starting > with this treatment. > She told us that there is no miracle cure for > autism. What is your > opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly > appreciated since > we feel discourage. > > Thanks > Gloria and Zamora > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Search > Marketing. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 When we took my dd to the pediatrician because we didn't know what was wrong, she said we needed to stop feeding her canned food and excessive sugar. She didn't even ask us what her diet was, just said that. No mention of autism, ADHD... nothing, just no canned food and take her to the school district. After the school district gave us a diagnosis of autism, we took her back and the pediatrician looked her in the face and said, " yep, no eye contact. Education is the only thing that will help, it will improve but not cure her. " Lot of help that was. As far as " no miracle cures " , your pediatrician is right. A miracle is something that can not happen in nature. Biomed addresses issues that are going on in our children's bodies that are affecting their neurological functioning. This is not a " miracle " so much as it is applied knowledge to help your child's body heal itself. It might seem like a miracle to your pediatrician, because many doctors put biomed and non-traditional forms of medicine on the same plane as witch doctors and faith healers. It might take you awhile to sort through everything. Sometimes I feel positively overwhelmed with the assortment of different supplements, therapies and such that people are utilizing. The diet and enzymes are a good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 There is no miracle cure for Autism. There are however, miraculous improvements to be found with various treatments. Our children vary so much that what works for one, may not work for another, or the dose has to be altered or administered with another supplement, treatment, etc. It is amazing, when your child has no language, refuses to be held, hates noise of any kind, lines their toys up without actively playing appropriately with them, what you consider to be miraculous. One treatment may allow noises to be tolerated that previously were unbearable, another treatment may produce speech, yet another may correct a bowel problem, either chronic diarrhea or constipation. In and of themselves they are not cures for autism, but they are improvements and your child will feel better for having healed to the degree that these things are possible. Dr. Megson is the one doctor that said the truest thing I've found ( and I've been at this for several years and have flown all around the Country). It took a couple of years for my child to degenerate to this degree, it will take a couple of years for my child to get better. No truer words have been spoken to me. My child is Autistic and we get knocked back a step or two when he gets ill. But, he is in 1st grade and he does beautifully. The only thing that distinguishes him from his classmates are his blue tinted eyeglasses and tiltboard. And when I volunteer in class and I help several students that write backwards, or have other vision issues, I know they'd benefit from some tinted lenses and a tiltboard too. Once your child starts to improve, you realize you'll settle for nothing less, and you realize how you now have to double time it, just to catch them up to their peers. It can be done, parents like us are doing it all over the world, you are hindered only by your circumstances. You'll either overcome them or you won't, but do not believe for one minute that it isn't possible. My son was diagnosed severe autistic at age 3. He had no language, spun, banged his head, lined up toys and was the developmental equivalent of a 6 mo. old on some motor skills and an 18 mo. in other areas. I was told that I'd be lucky if he ever dressed himself. Now he tells his 2 year old sister to " wait a minute, you can't go out in the cold without your jacket zipped " as he zips it up for her and puts on her gloves. Good luck to you. But don't look to general Doctors for consolation, encouragement or advice. You'll have to find a specialist, and it may cost you your house, many of us have blown through our savings so many times that it's no longer existent, we're financially and physically wiped out. But we are emotionally flying high on the days our kids master a new task or lose a diagnose or prove a doctor or prediction wrong. We don't stay high for too long, there is always something else to be overcome, new ground to break or old ground to be recovered either due to illness, a food infraction or supplement adjustment. But there it is all the same, progress. Lack of hope from Pediatrician We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since we feel discourage. Thanks Gloria and Zamora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 She has probably heard about some of the many kids who have regressed on the DAN! protocol which includes too high doses, dangerous challenge tests, and too infrequent dosing. Please educate yourself about AC's protocol and consider using it. S S <p>We took our son to his pediatrician today, because our son has strep <br> throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are consulting. We advise <br> her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we where following any <br> therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting to introduce the <br> biomedical approach. She immediately told us to really be careful <br> since none of these procedures are medically approved. That kind of <br> put our hopes down, since we are new and starting with this treatment. <br> She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. What is your <br> opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly appreciated since <br> we feel discourage. <br> <br> Thanks <br> Gloria and Zamora<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 > > We took our son to his pediatrician today, > > because our son has strep > > throat. This is a new pediatrician that we are > > consulting. We advise > > her that our son is autistic, then she ask if we > > where following any > > therapy for him and we told her yes we are starting > > to introduce the > > biomedical approach. She immediately told us to > > really be careful > > since none of these procedures are medically > > approved. That kind of > > put our hopes down, since we are new and starting > > with this treatment. > > She told us that there is no miracle cure for > > autism. What is your > > opinion regarding this? Any response will be greatly > > appreciated since > > we feel discourage. > > > > Thanks > > Gloria and Zamora > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > The fish are biting. > > Get more visitors on your site using Search > > Marketing. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Want to start your own business? > Learn how on Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./r-index > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 > >She immediately told us to really be careful > since none of these procedures are medically approved. But we all know how useless that is -- medically approved procedures are what got us autistic kids in the first place. > She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism. She doesn't know what's talking about. Can you find a more open-minded doctor, or at least use her only for broken bones and things like that? Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 WOWEE, thats alot already, at what point are you going to say thats enough, no more people, when we are packed in so tight we cant sit down even if we wanted too ;+)) >>720 could have seats, there is big balcony area - they use this room for concerts, but I don't like heights so 350 on the ground floor would suit me, 250 is our original target and WE will meet it - failure is not an option for Team TA.............. Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Mandi, that is so nice to hear re late bookings, let us know if you getany from the mainstream. >>we have 20 mainstream health profs, about 12 medics GP's with ASD kids I think mostly, 3 medics registered this morning, two Psychiatrists in LD posts and one rather famous GP parent of ASD, anti biomed............hmm I rang him to let him know the score and have decided to let him in (God help me) btw excuse my French but is that shithead brian deer going to show hisugly face? >>he can try, won;t do him any good Though Dr K thinks we should let him in!! Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Do we have henchwomen/men to keep this person in order??! >>I told him there will be 220 parents in the room who know your face and your name......we do have security - men in black No heckling will be tolerated, period! Or I set YOU on him LOL Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 WOWEE, thats alot already, at what point are you going to say thats enough, no more people, when we are packed in so tight we cant sit down even if we wanted too ;+)) Well done Mandi and team for spreading the word!!! Nikki - mwauhh > > > In a message dated 29/01/2007 21:12:07 GMT Standard Time, > Elaine.Rankin@... writes: > > How many people are coming to the conference? > > > 220 and counting, registrations flying in now........................ > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Mandi, that is so nice to hear re late bookings, let us know if you get any from the mainstream. btw excuse my French but is that shithead brian deer going to show his ugly face? Natasa > > > In a message dated 30/01/2007 09:28:55 GMT Standard Time, > nikkigoian44714@... writes: > > WOWEE, thats alot already, at what point are you going to say thats > enough, no more people, when we are packed in so tight we cant sit > down even if we wanted too ;+)) > > > > >>720 could have seats, there is big balcony area - they use this room for > concerts, but I don't like heights so 350 on the ground floor would suit me, > 250 is our original target and WE will meet it - failure is not an option for > Team TA.............. > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 >>we have 20 mainstream health profs, about 12 medics GP's with ASD kids I think mostly, 3 medics registered this morning, two Psychiatrists in LD posts and one rather famous GP parent of ASD, anti biomed............hmm I rang him to let him know the score and have decided to let him in (God help me) blimey Mandi, that’s amazing! Well done! Sara x  -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Do we have henchwomen/men to keep this person in order??! Margaret > > In a message dated 30/01/2007 12:58:01 GMT Standard Time, > neno@... writes: > > Mandi, that is so nice to hear re late bookings, let us know if you get > any from the mainstream. > > >>we have 20 mainstream health profs, about 12 medics GP's with ASD kids I > think mostly, 3 medics registered this morning, two Psychiatrists in LD posts > and one rather famous GP parent of ASD, anti biomed............hmm I rang him > to let him know the score and have decided to let him in (God help me) > > > > btw excuse my French but is that shithead brian deer going to show his > ugly face? > >>he can try, won;t do him any good Though Dr K thinks we should let him > in!! > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Biomedical is not a a " miracle cure " , it's a lot of hard work, expense, research, major balancing act, and often lifestyle change that for many people results in positive results. (A miracle is a phenomena we can't explain... " S S > She told us that there is no miracle cure for autism.<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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