Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 In a message dated 15/06/2006 13:56:44 GMT Daylight Time, david@... writes: Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on Wimpole Street in London. >>>You can order the test ourself through _www.Directlabs.com_ (http://www.Directlabs.com) in the US which is cheaper thanordering the same test form the UK - they send them to DDI but you can order that on-line at IDWL in Surrey. You can click on the link fo IDWL on this sites LINKS page under labs and testing _www.TreatingAutism.com_ (http://www.TreatingAutism.com) Also come join the UK/European group - th elink to that is on the welcome page of above site Yes I believe tuna can contribute in the way you decribe and I ate lots of tuna during my pregancy for the same reason and because back then they told us eating fish was healthy................... Mandi in Dorset UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Dear , My co-worker friend swears that her son got autism from her eating a diet almost entirely of fish during her pregnancy. There are many reports of mercury-contaminated tuna and other fish. I remember a report of a little boy who did, in fact, develop neurological disorders from eating tuna every day. His condition improved after tuna was removed from his diet (and he probably did receive other medical help). So it is very possible that your son developed autism from his birth mother's diet. The mercury in the vacs could also have contributed to his developing autism. Also, do you know if his birth mother was given Rhogam or MMR before, during, or just after birth? My son was born injured from Rhogam and MMR vacs that were given to me postpartum (after miscarriage) before his conception. His childhood vacs further injured him. Mercury is not the only cause of autism. The MMR vac causes autism and it contains no mercury. The vaccine strain of the measles virus, as well as the other poisonous agents in vacs, attack the digestive tract and the myelin sheath on the nervous system. Autism develops from this. Wishing you all the best, Debby In a message dated 6/15/2006 8:57:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david@... writes: I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as our situation is quite unique. My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since then he has developed fantastically well given where he started from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at times. Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) in her county. So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone believe this is even possible? I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair tested. Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on Wimpole Street in London. Thank you for your thoughts & comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 IMO, if the mercury damage had occurred in utero, while the nervous system was developing, there would be much more severe problems than you seem to have. There were probably some effects, such as the early gut problems you mention, and then the vaccine pushed him over the edge. But that's just my opinion, [ ] Is TUNAFISH the cause of my son's Autism? I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as our situation is quite unique. My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since then he has developed fantastically well given where he started from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at times. Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) in her county. So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone believe this is even possible? I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair tested. Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on Wimpole Street in London. Thank you for your thoughts & comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Hi >So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a >similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a >factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone >believe this is even possible? Our local health article a month back said this : Do not each the same fish more than twice a week & it's best to consume fishes from certain deep regions. Almost all fishes invariably has a trace amounts of toxins in them, it could be mercury, arsenic or something else. Fishes caught near the coast which has industrial plants are more prone to contain more toxins. I'm not sure if I remember correctly but it I think it says that fishes with scales are less prone to absorbing toxins in the sea compared to fishes that are slimy (probably eel) - my memory is not too good on this. At one time I ate canned tunas twice per day when my job in the computer centre requires me to be in the centre over long hours & I think I don't feel that clear-headed at that time - well maybe I'm wrong as it could be due to job stress (long hours & demanding management .....). I've misplaced the article but I felt most articles published in it quotes quite established sources. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 , probably a mixed bag, probably the tuna didn't help the mercury situation, in addition to the immunizations, but the high protein content of the tuna and the good fats is probably responsible for his nice intellect. He sounds like our girl, right down to the early reading and telling time, and my dd did not eat tuna, but did consume tons of protein in the form of meat, milk and eggs. High protein during gestation is correlated with higher IQ's in babies. What is different is that she never showed any sign of autism (and I have poured over the hundreds of hours of videotape we have on her from birth) until she was about 2.9 months, relatively late. But like your boy, she rebounded quickly with just supplements or a lot of her symptoms were ameliorated with just cod liver oil and a good multivitamin. I too, was very hesitant to do the full biomed, but glad we did as she has done beautifully. Wishing you lots of luck with your boy. [ ] Is TUNAFISH the cause of my son's Autism? I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as our situation is quite unique. My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since then he has developed fantastically well given where he started from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at times. Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) in her county. So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone believe this is even possible? I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair tested. Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on Wimpole Street in London. Thank you for your thoughts & comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 > So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a > similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a > factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone > believe this is even possible? Sure it's possible. Any exposure to Hg, whatever the source, contributes to toxicity. Then it depends upon the person's biochemistry how and where and to what degree that gets expressed. > > I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because > our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the > risks. I'm not sure what risks you mean. Chelation has risks, but only if there's Hg toxicity, because the risk is from dragging the metals around the body and redistribution. I guess there are risks of supplementation, that there could be negative short-term reactions. Certainly you can count on the risk of buying things you don't end up using, lol. More and more people are chelating much less affected siblings, or themselves, because the risk of leaving the metals in is of developing some awful conditions later on. I'm on some political lists (nothing to do with autism) and it's amazing how many adults have " mystery syndromes " in which they're getting progressively sicker, no doctors can figure out what's going on, and they have a host of neurological symptoms everyone here is familiar with. It's way worth it, IMO, to chelate and use other biomed treatments to avoid getting to that point. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he > broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he > had for over two months. Sounds like something in there was really not tolerated. Multis are a big problem for exactly that reason -- no way to figure out what the problem was. I'd suggest starting him on supps one at a time so you can see what's helping and what's tolerated. The supp file here at A-M is really helpful for figuring that out. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I have to reply to this post b/c its been in the back on my mind too. My son is also 4 and high funct. ASD. I have two boys a year apart. I was pg two years in a row. I think all the time, how can one have this and not the other, didnt I do everything the same? But no. My first son ( ASD) I did everything I thought I was suppose to, including eating alot of fish. Tuna and salmon (which now I have found out its farm raised and pretty much toxic). I had my first son vaccinated., right on schedule like a " good mom " , ugh! During my second pregnancy I was sick the whole time and could only eat fruit and veggies. My second son had a few vaccinations in the begining but then I couldnt keep up with the schedule and then I just quit. He never did get the MMR. The first one I thought I did everything right and he turns out to be Hg poisoned. My second son, I felt like I wasnt on top of it, not eatting the fish and not keeping up with the vaccinations and now he's fine. Go figure. There was a show on Montell about parents who thought it was the tuna fish was the cause. It was several years ago, but very interesting. Its probably a combination of both. Toxic fish and toxic vaccinations...? I cant get all caught up in the WHY. I do better when I focus on the what.. what can be done. Things need to change.... and on that note I am gonna go email Pres. Bush again... heehee, it just makes me laugh every time I do it, but what the hell. take care, K Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: , probably a mixed bag, probably the tuna didn't help the mercury situation, in addition to the immunizations, but the high protein content of the tuna and the good fats is probably responsible for his nice intellect. He sounds like our girl, right down to the early reading and telling time, and my dd did not eat tuna, but did consume tons of protein in the form of meat, milk and eggs. High protein during gestation is correlated with higher IQ's in babies. What is different is that she never showed any sign of autism (and I have poured over the hundreds of hours of videotape we have on her from birth) until she was about 2.9 months, relatively late. But like your boy, she rebounded quickly with just supplements or a lot of her symptoms were ameliorated with just cod liver oil and a good multivitamin. I too, was very hesitant to do the full biomed, but glad we did as she has done beautifully. Wishing you lots of luck with your boy. [ ] Is TUNAFISH the cause of my son's Autism? I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as our situation is quite unique. My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since then he has developed fantastically well given where he started from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at times. Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) in her county. So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone believe this is even possible? I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair tested. Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on Wimpole Street in London. Thank you for your thoughts & comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I have heard that the first child is more at risk as they will take the mother's mercury load. [ ] Is TUNAFISH the cause of my son's Autism? I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as our situation is quite unique. My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since then he has developed fantastically well given where he started from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at times. Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) in her county. So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone believe this is even possible? I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair tested. Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on Wimpole Street in London. Thank you for your thoughts & comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 If you have dental amlgams or had dental work done while pregnant, that also plays a role. My nephew with ASD is the oldest, there was a miscarriage prior. He regressed right after the DPT. S S <p>I have heard that the first child is more at risk as they will take the mother's mercury load.<br> <br> <br> <br> [ ] Is TUNAFISH the cause of my son's Autism?<br> <br> I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as <br> our situation is quite unique.<br> <br> My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His <br> regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & <br> babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about <br> 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & <br> poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod <br> liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since <br> then he has developed fantastically well given where he started <br> from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than <br> anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or <br> above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can <br> tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at <br> times.<br> <br> Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in <br> Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he <br> wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to <br> thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so <br> his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug <br> mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid <br> the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she <br> thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say <br> ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice <br> per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in <br> environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) <br> in her county.<br> <br> So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a <br> similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a <br> factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone <br> believe this is even possible?<br> <br> I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because <br> our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the <br> risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he <br> broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he <br> had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has <br> the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again <br> on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair <br> tested.<br> <br> Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of <br> DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on <br> Wimpole Street in London.<br> <br> Thank you for your thoughts & comments<br> <br> <br> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 So was that DPT at 14 months? My nephew lost all speech for a year after his. The tuna certainly didn't help. If the birth mother was eating tuna one to two times per day she probably wasn't eating much healthy (other) food. S S <p>I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as <br> our situation is quite unique.<br> <br> My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His <br> regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & <br> babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about <br> 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & <br> poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod <br> liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since <br> then he has developed fantastically well given where he started <br> from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than <br> anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or <br> above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can <br> tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at <br> times.<br> <br> Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in <br> Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he <br> wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to <br> thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so <br> his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug <br> mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid <br> the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she <br> thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say <br> ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice <br> per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in <br> environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) <br> in her county.<br> <br> So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a <br> similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a <br> factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone <br> believe this is even possible?<br> <br> I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because <br> our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the <br> risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he <br> broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he <br> had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has <br> the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again <br> on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair <br> tested.<br> <br> Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of <br> DDI? 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Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 On the Montel show which he has long segement on Autism there was a mom on there who was a major fitness/health buff that all she ate was tuna for the most part during her pregenancy. I don't have to tell you the outcome. > <p>I realise that my question is provacative but please bear with me as <br> > our situation is quite unique.<br> > <br> > My son is now 4.5 yrs old and was diagnosed ASD at 2.5 yrs. His <br> > regression was fairly standard, he lost speech (about 5 words) & <br> > babbling at 14 months and his ONLY gut problem was reflux until about <br> > 8 months. Otherwise no gut issues at all, with very good digestion & <br> > poo. Intensive speech therapy, organic foods, Nordic Natural cod <br> > liver oils all helped get his speech back at 3 years old and since <br> > then he has developed fantastically well given where he started <br> > from. While he is still slightly Autistic, more Asperger's than <br> > anything, his language caught up very fast and he is now average or <br> > above in most areas and is reading, very bright with numbers & can <br> > tell time perfectly. We feel very lucky but it has been hell at <br> > times.<br> > <br> > Our situation is unique because my son was adopted from birth in <br> > Texas. Fortunately, because he was coming back to England with us he <br> > wasn't given his Hepatitis B vaccine. In the UK his only exposure to <br> > thiomersal was his ACT-HibDTP vaccines which had 50ug per dose, so <br> > his total exposure is 2 doses x 50ug thiomersal x 50% mercury = 50ug <br> > mercury. HOWEVER, my son's birthmom was a very young girl who hid <br> > the pregnancy for 6 months and ate tuna fish all the time because she <br> > thought it was healthy and would keep her weight down. When I say <br> > ate it all the time, I mean she ate it at least once per day or twice <br> > per day. Where she lived in Texas was also very high in <br> > environmental mercury - there were major mercury mines (now closed) <br> > in her county.<br> > <br> > So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a <br> > similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a <br> > factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone <br> > believe this is even possible?<br> > <br> > I haven't gone down the full blown biomedical route mainly because <br> > our son has progressed so well and I wasn't sure it was worth the <br> > risks. We had him on Spectrum Support I for a while but then he <br> > broke out in a very bad rash that covered his entire body which he <br> > had for over two months. I also had him tested for MTHFR and he has <br> > the less severe C677T polymorphism. We are ready to start him again <br> > on the very light Spectrun Support, but first I want to get his hair <br> > tested.<br> > <br> > Does anyone know of a lab in the UK that can test to the standard of <br> > DDI? Our consultant recommended us to The Doctors Laboratoty on <br> > Wimpole Street in London.<br> > <br> > Thank you for your thoughts & comments<br> > <br> > <br> > </p> > </div> > > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> > <span width= " 1 " style= " color: white; " /></span> > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> > </body> > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> > <head> > <style type= " text/css " > > <!-- > #ygrp-mlmsg {font:84.5% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font- size:small;*font:x-small;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;*font-size:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin: 0 0 1em 0; > } > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear: both; > } > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px; > font-family: Verdana; > font-size: 77%; > margin: 0; > } > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding: 0 1px; > } > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear: both; > margin: 25px 0; > white-space:nowrap; > color: #666; > text-align: right; > } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float: left; > white-space:nowrap; > } > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana; > font-size: 77%; > padding: 15px 0; > } > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana; > font-size: 77%; > border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding: 5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px; > } > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee; > margin-bottom: 20px; > padding: 2px 0 8px 8px; > } > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size: 77%; > font-family: Verdana; > font-weight: bold; > color: #333; > text-transform: uppercase; > } > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding: 0; > margin: 2px 0; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none; > clear: both; > border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold; > color: #ff7900; > float: right; > width: 2em; > text-align:right; > padding-right: .5em; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold; > } > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration: none; > } > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; > } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color: #999; > font-size: 77%; > } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding: 6px 13px; > background-color: #e0ecee; > margin-bottom: 20px; > } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding: 0 0 0 8px; > margin: 0; > } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square; > padding: 6px 0; > font-size: 77%; > } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none; > font-size: 130%; > } > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color: #eee; > margin-bottom: 20px; > padding: 0 8px; > } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding: 8px 0; > } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial; > font-weight: bold; > color: #628c2a; > font-size: 100%; > line-height: 122%; > } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none; > } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; > } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin: 0; > } > o {font-size: 0; } > .MsoNormal { > margin: 0 0 0 0; > } > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size: 120%; > } > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4} > --> > </style> > </head> > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> > </html><!--End group email --> > > <p> > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 The mercury in tuna contributes to some kids' toxic load. I have read articles about wealthy people who ate a lot of seafood high in mercury and eventually had their hair fall out, muscle aches, trouble thinking ,etc. which was attributed to mercury poisoning. So . . . yes, it can be a part of the toxic load. Other causes could be closeness to a coal-fired power plant, the mother's fillings, her vaccines during pregnancy, broken thermometers, the child's fillings, and of course, the child's diet of seafood. In some cases, it may be a large part of that child's load. Oh, and let's not forget the child's vaccinations, if any. Barb Re: [ ] Is TUNAFISH the cause of my son's Autism? Hi >So my question to the board is this, has anyone ever heard of a >similar case in which a constant diet of fish was found to be a >factor in mercury poisoning or a child becoming ASD? Does anyone >believe this is even possible? Our local health article a month back said this : Do not each the same fish more than twice a week & it's best to consume fishes from certain deep regions. Almost all fishes invariably has a trace amounts of toxins in them, it could be mercury, arsenic or something else. Fishes caught near the coast which has industrial plants are more prone to contain more toxins. I'm not sure if I remember correctly but it I think it says that fishes with scales are less prone to absorbing toxins in the sea compared to fishes that are slimy (probably eel) - my memory is not too good on this. At one time I ate canned tunas twice per day when my job in the computer centre requires me to be in the centre over long hours & I think I don't feel that clear-headed at that time - well maybe I'm wrong as it could be due to job stress (long hours & demanding management .....). I've misplaced the article but I felt most articles published in it quotes quite established sources. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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