Behavior problems..adrenal issue maybe, questions

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My 4 year old is on AC protocol with dmsa/ala. He has done 15 rounds

that went well. We do battle yeast off and on of course. He is on

all the vites and such as well, probiotics.

Lately we have been having a horrible time with him. My hubby and I

are ready to run for the hills. He has been so impossible. He does

not listen to anyone, he is mouthy, and defiant..and extremely

stubborn.

We have always had some issues like this with him, they come and go.

They were getting better and had become more manageable with

chelation. But not lately. He is also waking up incredibly early for

some reason the past two weeks or so. Like 5 am...and he will not go

back to sleep. This happens with or without melatonin. He goes down

at night fine. Just wakes early.

I keep thinking I am overlooking or missing something here. I can't

beleive he is this horrible for no reason. Discipline seems to have

no effect on him. He doesn't care if he goes in time out..he will

repeat the ill behavior again. He has taken to calling us names when

he doesn't like things.

Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the dark..as I

did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue. We are on

Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't think

his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils dialate and

don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted. His pupils

reacted worse than mine do. I started him on 1/4 cap of Adrenal

extract today. Is this the rigth route to go? And since his hair

test did not meet counting rules...just high for other

metals..wouldn't this mean he has mercury somewhere? If his adrenals

are showing fatigue?

Sorry this is so long..but I have got to help him, my husband is

pretty close to resorting to spanking him, which I don't beleive is

the answer. He is on GSE and probiotics. I am seeing yeast on his

tongue and a rash on his bum. So maybe yeast and adrenals are the

problem? Am I on the right track?

[Guest guest]

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> My 4 year old is on AC protocol with dmsa/ala. He has done 15 rounds

> that went well. We do battle yeast off and on of course. He is on

> all the vites and such as well, probiotics.

>

> Lately we have been having a horrible time with him. My hubby and I

> are ready to run for the hills. He has been so impossible. He does

> not listen to anyone, he is mouthy, and defiant..and extremely

> stubborn.

Try inositol and maybe 5 HTP.

> We have always had some issues like this with him, they come and go.

> They were getting better and had become more manageable with

> chelation. But not lately. He is also waking up incredibly early for

> some reason the past two weeks or so. Like 5 am...and he will not go

> back to sleep. This happens with or without melatonin. He goes down

> at night fine. Just wakes early.

Try time release melatonin to KEEP him down.

> I keep thinking I am overlooking or missing something here. I can't

> beleive he is this horrible for no reason. Discipline seems to have

> no effect on him.

Which is a really clear indication it is a biochemical problem, not a behavioral

one.

> He doesn't care if he goes in time out..he will

> repeat the ill behavior again. He has taken to calling us names when

> he doesn't like things.

>

> Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the dark..as I

> did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue. We are on

> Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't think

> his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils dialate and

> don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted. His pupils

> reacted worse than mine do. I started him on 1/4 cap of Adrenal

> extract today. Is this the rigth route to go?

Yes. Try it. Give him plenty and see if it helps.

>And since his hair

> test did not meet counting rules...just high for other

> metals..wouldn't this mean he has mercury somewhere? If his adrenals

> are showing fatigue?

No, not necessarily, the other metals may do it.

If you are chelating you'll get the mercury.

You MAY be in the middle of the " stall " period if it IS mercury, and what you

are seeing

may be his body starting to dump it. THis can be hard to figure out until it is

all over.

> Sorry this is so long..but I have got to help him, my husband is

> pretty close to resorting to spanking him, which I don't beleive is

> the answer.

ly, let your husband give it a try. If it doesn't work after a few days

your husband will

probably " get it " that it must be biochemical, and it it might work well enough

to reduce

the number of outbursts for a while and let the pills have some time to work.

> He is on GSE and probiotics. I am seeing yeast on his

> tongue and a rash on his bum. So maybe yeast and adrenals are the

> problem? Am I on the right track?

Sounds like it to me.

If it is mercury you may be in for a few months of this, but in that case it is

doubly

important to fight it.

If the issues seem impulsive or sudden, try some GABA too.

Andy

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Jan, I don't have the answer to your question, I'm wondering

about this flashlight check. What exactly are you looking for? I

don't understand this. Do you mind explaining it please?

Wyndie

>

>

> Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the dark..as I

> did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue. We are on

> Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't think

> his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils dialate and

> don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted. His pupils

> reacted worse than mine do.

[Guest guest]

> My 4 year old is on AC protocol with dmsa/ala. He has done 15 rounds

> that went well. We do battle yeast off and on of course. He is on

> all the vites and such as well, probiotics.

>

> Lately we have been having a horrible time with him. My hubby and I

> are ready to run for the hills. He has been so impossible. He does

> not listen to anyone, he is mouthy, and defiant..and extremely

> stubborn.

Several things caused this for my son. Giving supplements when they

were no longer required, too high or too low doses of certain

supplements, EFAs without mito cocktail, yeast, bad bacteria, viruses,

recently mineral deficiency, probably others that I have not written.

It does sound biomedical. Sorry I can't give more specific info.

Dana

[Guest guest]

One way to check for adrenal fatigue is to go into the bathroom.

Stand in front of the mirror. Turn out the lights. Use a flashlight

shown into the eye from the side. Have the person look into the

mirror while you are doing this. Their pupil should constrict in

response to the light and should stay constricted. If it constricts

and then dialates and keeps trying to constrict/dialate this is a

result of adrenal fatigue. This method is described on

NaturalThyroidHormones group. Adrenals are responsible for this

function in the eye and thus the reason many with adrenal fatigue

are light sensitive.

> >

> >

> > Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the

dark..as I

> > did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue. We

are on

> > Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't

think

> > his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils dialate

and

> > don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted. His

pupils

> > reacted worse than mine do.

>

[Guest guest]

What do you do for adrenal fatigue? Is this considered a medical condition?

-- [ ] Re: Behavior problems..adrenal issue maybe,

questions

One way to check for adrenal fatigue is to go into the bathroom.

Stand in front of the mirror. Turn out the lights. Use a flashlight

shown into the eye from the side. Have the person look into the

mirror while you are doing this. Their pupil should constrict in

response to the light and should stay constricted. If it constricts

and then dialates and keeps trying to constrict/dialate this is a

result of adrenal fatigue. This method is described on

NaturalThyroidHormones group. Adrenals are responsible for this

function in the eye and thus the reason many with adrenal fatigue

are light sensitive.

> >

> >

> > Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the

dark..as I

> > did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue. We

are on

> > Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't

think

> > his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils dialate

and

> > don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted. His

pupils

> > reacted worse than mine do.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is a medical condition, but good luck finding a doctor who

actually recognizes it or can properly test for it. Usually a saliva

test is what you would want them to do. We are using a glandular

product called Adrenal Cortex Extract by Nutricology. It works very

well, it is organic and contains the right stuff to support adrenals

so they can heal up and later on work on their own.

Adrenal fatigue usually occurs from longer term mercury exposure or

with chelation in removing the metals. Metals are a stressor on the

adrenals. In turn, if the adrenals are untreated, you will see

hypothyroid issues develop. The thyroid tries to make up for what

the tired adrenals can't do, and thus thyroid fatigue.

In any event, others choose to treat this through a doctor using

things like Cortef, or Isocort. We chose to naturally treat it and

assist the body with healing and eventually recovering it's own

function. You can order Adrenal Cortex Extract at Iherb.com

They have the best prices. You may find some useful information on

NaturalThyroidHormones group in the files section on adrenals and

treating them.

I have found this to be KEY for me and my dtr..and now possibly my

son. For years I had this edgy, couldn't sleep, short fuse, nervous,

feeling. Stressed or frazzles, over reacted, sensitive to light and

noise...I didn't realize it was related to adrenal function.

Taking that supplement has made those things go away and I no longer

seek antideppressants to keep me calm.

There are also herbs many people use to support the adrenals like

Licorice root.

> > >

> > >

> > > Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the

> dark..as I

> > > did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue. We

> are on

> > > Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't

> think

> > > his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils dialate

> and

> > > don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted. His

> pupils

> > > reacted worse than mine do.

> >

>

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>

[Guest guest]

This is me! I hope the saliva test that I finish tonight will shed

some light. I already have a prescription of cortef filled and am

dying to start it tommorrow. I hope this helps me feel better. I get

so agitated over everything and don't really want to be in my own

skin. If it wasn't for the Cortef prescription I have I would be

seeking Zoloft or something tommorrow to help lower my stressed out

feeling. Wish me luck! Maybe the light sensitivity I have been

batteling will go away as well.

> For years I had this edgy, couldn't sleep, short fuse, nervous,

> feeling. Stressed or frazzles, over reacted, sensitive to light and

> noise...I didn't realize it was related to adrenal function.

>

> Taking that supplement has made those things go away and I no

longer

> seek antideppressants to keep me calm.

>

> There are also herbs many people use to support the adrenals like

> Licorice root.

>

>

I am going to look into these other options as well

Thanks, Melinda

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your explanation Jan! I performed the flashlight test

on myself, and no suprise, I continued dialating and compensating.

I will do this on my kids in the morning. I appreciate you taking

time to explain it. One more peice of the puzzle for my kids...

Wyndie

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> > > >

> > > > Anyway..I used the flashlight to check his pupils in the

> > dark..as I

> > > > did with myself and dtr..for we both have adrenal fatigue.

We

> > are on

> > > > Cortex extract for it. I never thought to check him..I don't

> > think

> > > > his hair test indicated it as our did. But his pupils

dialate

> > and

> > > > don't contrict much at all, nor do they stay constricted.

His

> > pupils

> > > > reacted worse than mine do.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

>

> What do you do for adrenal fatigue?

Info here

http://www.drrind.com/adrensupport.asp

Dana

[Guest guest]

We are using a glandular

> > product called Adrenal Cortex Extract by Nutricology.

Is this the same product Adrenal Cortex by Allergy Research found at

illnessisoptional.com ?

Jeni Lynn

[Guest guest]

Yes

>

> We are using a glandular

> > > product called Adrenal Cortex Extract by Nutricology.

>

> Is this the same product Adrenal Cortex by Allergy Research found at

> illnessisoptional.com ?

>

> Jeni Lynn

>