Food allergy testing

[Guest guest]

We did with Aletess Lab and it cost $125 for 96 food sensitivity and 12 food

allergy panel.

--- Cornejo <jennifercornejo@...> wrote:

> I was wondering where do you go to have food allergy testing done? We have

> Kaiser, so I am guessing not through our insurance. How expense is that?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for GFCF and dyes

and preservatives?

Thanks!

Jalene

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> Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Nell, is right, eliminating them is the easiest and least expensive way.

However, if you have a child who is reacting to more than a few things,

eliminating one might not show you anything. For example, if milk and red dye

and eggs are a problem, then eliminating milk but keeping the red dye and eggs

are likely to show a child still reactive and then the assumption is that it is

not the milk.

I am chasing down a new blood test called L.E.A.P., that Mark Schauss has

investigated and used for his dd. I don't know if there are any provisions for

dyes and preservatives, but I can ask.

I was interested in the test as I have suspicions we are dealing with a

mold/yeast allergy/sensitivity. We only get yeast this time of year, she has

tinea versicolor (yeast on the skin, only in the humid summers). The LEAP test

has a section for molds.

We have had the test which showed nothing and I have known more than a few

who have used the IGG testing to no avail.

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

>

> Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Jalene,

Gluten and casein issues are not regular allergies . I think it's IgG or IgA

tests to check for those but only work if the individual is still on G and C.

Consider NAET for the others. www.naet.com

S S

Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for GFCF and dyes

and preservatives?<br>

<br>

Thanks!<br>

<br>

Jalene<br>

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>

> We have had the test which showed nothing and I have known

more than a few who have used the IGG testing to no avail.

Yes, because if there's a leaky gut then whatever the kid has been

eating is going to cause a reaction since particles of it have been

getting out of the gut. Houston enzymes would be the first thing to

start healing the gut. Doris Rapp in " Is This Your Child? " has a more

complete version of an elimination diet, which fixes the problem

points out of multiple intolerances -- essentially you start

out eating a very restricted diet for a few days, stuff that almost no

one has problems with, and then add a new thing every day. I think

Andy recommends the same thing in " Amalgam Illness " .

I've always wanted to do it (for myself as well as n), but

haven't ever mustered up the nerve.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Yes, you're correct Nell, it has been a long time since I read Doris Rapp's

book, but starting with just two food items and moving beyond that would be a

very effective way to gauge just what is causing a reaction.

Would not work for what I suspect is our problem, though, mold, as mold is in

the air, everyone takes in molds when they breathe, particularly in the humid

summers. Really hoping that is not our trigger as if you are sensitive to

anything else, it's a pain to avoid it, but you can, you don't have to breathe

it.

That book scared me so bad, I wanted to just put her on tofu after I read it,

must have blocked it out of my awareness. Thanks for bringing this up, as if we

can't get the insurance clearance for the leap testing, we will consider this.

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

>

> We have had the test which showed nothing and I have known

more than a few who have used the IGG testing to no avail.

Yes, because if there's a leaky gut then whatever the kid has been

eating is going to cause a reaction since particles of it have been

getting out of the gut. Houston enzymes would be the first thing to

start healing the gut. Doris Rapp in " Is This Your Child? " has a more

complete version of an elimination diet, which fixes the problem

points out of multiple intolerances -- essentially you start

out eating a very restricted diet for a few days, stuff that almost no

one has problems with, and then add a new thing every day. I think

Andy recommends the same thing in " Amalgam Illness " .

I've always wanted to do it (for myself as well as n), but

haven't ever mustered up the nerve.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Sorry it’s taken me so long to respond to the LEAP inquiries but I was on

the road and just got back.

The LEAP test is not inexpensive as it goes for $495 and looks at 123 foods

and 27 food additives (including Red, Blue and Yellow dye #40). The main

difference between and LEAP is that the former looks only at the

release of pro-inflammatory leukotrienes, prostaglandins, and cytokeines

from lymphocytes while LEAP looks at these responses from all cells so it

picks up what misses. You can read a bit more about the test at

www.nowleap.com <http://www.nowleap.com/> .

Mark Schauss

www.markschauss.com <http://www.markschauss.com/>

P.S. Hope to have my daughters 2nd test up on my blog site by later today.

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Cochran

Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:47 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Food allergy testing

Nell, is right, eliminating them is the easiest and least expensive way.

However, if you have a child who is reacting to more than a few things,

eliminating one might not show you anything. For example, if milk and red

dye and eggs are a problem, then eliminating milk but keeping the red dye

and eggs are likely to show a child still reactive and then the assumption

is that it is not the milk.

I am chasing down a new blood test called L.E.A.P., that Mark Schauss has

investigated and used for his dd. I don't know if there are any provisions

for dyes and preservatives, but I can ask.

I was interested in the test as I have suspicions we are dealing with a

mold/yeast allergy/sensitivity. We only get yeast this time of year, she has

tinea versicolor (yeast on the skin, only in the humid summers). The LEAP

test has a section for molds.

We have had the test which showed nothing and I have known more than a

few who have used the IGG testing to no avail.

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

>

> Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Mark for posting this, however when I contacted someone about this test,

a nutritionist answered and answered my questions. She reported the test at $800

and something and said she would assist in a query of the insurance to see if it

was covered.

Could this be the same thing?

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

>

> Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

Nell

[Guest guest]

If your child can stay still long enough, try testing his pulse while

resting a few times to get his baseline rate. After that try out foods on a

single basis and see if the pulse rate goes up. Elevated pulse will occur

when the body mounts a response to an allergen....not sure in all cases but

it certainly worth trying out. I think I read this in Doris Rapp's book.

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

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>

> >

> > Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

> GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

>

> You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

> diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

> day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

> mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

> cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

> oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

>

> Nell

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

It could be. If a nutritionist is involved there is a higher cost from them

(not from Carbon Based). Also, there is a way to get it covered by

insurance if a physician is available to sign off on it. Then the cost is a

$195 co-pay.

Mark Schauss

www.markschauss.com

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Cochran

Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:11 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Food allergy testing

Thanks, Mark for posting this, however when I contacted someone about this

test, a nutritionist answered and answered my questions. She reported the

test at $800 and something and said she would assist in a query of the

insurance to see if it was covered.

Could this be the same thing?

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

>

> Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Mark,

Are you saying you offer it from Carbon Based? Does the dr order it from Carbon

Based? Can you get it through insurance at Carbon Based?

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

>

> Does anyone know if you can get food allergy testing specific for

GFCF and dyes and preservatives?

You can do an elimination test for them. Just remove them from the

diet for a month or so and then eat a lot of the suspect food in one

day and see what happens. Test the foods individially, and avoid

mixtures -- i.e. when you're testing wheat, use plain wheat bread or

cereal (with no additives at all), not pizza, because the cheese and

oil and possible preservatives might confuse the result.

Nell

[Guest guest]

> That book scared me so bad, I wanted to just put her on tofu after I

read it, must have blocked it out of my awareness.

LOL I know just what you mean. I happened to see the book at a

relative's -- who knows what they were doing with it -- before I had

any clue what was going on with n. It so overwhelmed me I hid it

for about a year.

She has another book called " Out Toxic World -- A Wake-Up Call " that I

bought to give her the support but I haven't been able to face more

than a few pages. Someday.

Nell

[Guest guest]

One problem we had with just trying to observe whether new foods were

causing a reaction (building from a few foods) is that with IgG reactions,

you can have a reaction after a few DAYS, or it may take a certain amount of

the food to cause a reaction. So for us the testing was well worth it- I was

pulling out my hair trying to figure it out. The bad news is- we didn't

rotate foods as suggested because removing so many favorite foods was

already very difficult, so about 9 months later he started having new

sensitivities based on his new favorites.

[Guest guest]

Ahhh, very interesting, and now I am back to full circle, seeing, again, that a

lot of times allergies, and yeast are a product of a dysfunctional immune system

and when deprived of previous foods will many times shift to new foods.

I have read of this shifting phenomenon before and it is the best reason not to

try food elimination diets, although doesn't always happen, wish I could figure

out when it does.

Reminds me also of something that I read about researchers finding the same

allergens in healthy people as they do in allergy sufferers, even in the same

amounts, the difference is the healthy people could detoxify the histamine,

those with compromised immune systems.....could not.

Thanks, ,

[ ] Re: Food allergy testing

One problem we had with just trying to observe whether new foods were

causing a reaction (building from a few foods) is that with IgG reactions,

you can have a reaction after a few DAYS, or it may take a certain amount of

the food to cause a reaction. So for us the testing was well worth it- I was

pulling out my hair trying to figure it out. The bad news is- we didn't

rotate foods as suggested because removing so many favorite foods was

already very difficult, so about 9 months later he started having new

sensitivities based on his new favorites.