Re: early puberty - Calcium D-Glucarate

[Guest guest]

We gave Calcium d-glucarate at 200 mgs per day. Melatonin is also said to help

with precocious puberty.

[ ] early puberty - Calcium D-Glucarate

My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had mature

body odor for yrs. I'm concerned how early this is but sure if I take

her to the MD they'll say 8yrs is in the normal range. She is not ASD

but anxiety/SM. She's doing well on that front with magnesium, 5-HTP

& inositol, & probiotics. Yeast has always been her main issue. I

was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth

hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested &

natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either

of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last

thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice

I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same

stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )

[Guest guest]

> We gave Calcium d-glucarate at 200 mgs per day. Melatonin is also

said to help with precocious puberty.

>

>

,

Did you give it for early puberty? Do you feel it helped? Are there

any side effects you need to watch for? Thank you so much.

Is it ok to take melatonin if there don't seem to be any apparent

sleep problems? She used to be a horrible sleeper but that has

resolved with getting yeast under control.

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I can say with a great degree of confidence that your child has Precocious

Puberty caused by autism. Its too long to explain the science here. Basically,

your child has too much testosterone because the testosterone is trapped within

testosterone-mercury sheets. Poor kid is clogged up with testosterone. Listen

to Dr. Geier:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

For ASD kids with very high testosterone, chelation is minimally successful.

You need to bring the testosterone down and perhaps shut it off until you can

chelate. Two methods of doing this:

1. Diflucan / Nizoral have a side-effect of testosterone reduction but may

not do this effectively enough.

2. Lupron will stop the testosterone but is reported to have side-effects --

especially for adults.

By the way, if you take her to an MD be sure to say that you suspect

" precocious puberty " and insist that she get tested (they will check her

testosterone level). I would also test your son as well.

Be sure to listen to the Geiers!

I really don't think the calcium or other things you mentioned are the issue

here. Email me with any questions -- I have just gone through this same thing!

hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had mature

body odor for yrs. I'm concerned how early this is but sure if I take

her to the MD they'll say 8yrs is in the normal range. She is not ASD

but anxiety/SM. She's doing well on that front with magnesium, 5-HTP

& inositol, & probiotics. Yeast has always been her main issue. I

was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth

hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested &

natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either

of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last

thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice

I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same

stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

No, we did not have precocious puberty, here, was just in her multivitamin as

some consider calcium-d-glucarate as helping excrete environmental toxins.

We did not have sleeping problems either, but the melatonin was helpful as an

antioxidant and I have read that it is the lack of melatonin in the body that

causes the precocious puberty.

[ ] Re: early puberty - Calcium D-Glucarate

> We gave Calcium d-glucarate at 200 mgs per day. Melatonin is also

said to help with precocious puberty.

>

>

,

Did you give it for early puberty? Do you feel it helped? Are there

any side effects you need to watch for? Thank you so much.

Is it ok to take melatonin if there don't seem to be any apparent

sleep problems? She used to be a horrible sleeper but that has

resolved with getting yeast under control.

[Guest guest]

We have just been down this path with my daughter. She has been

showing signs of precocious puberty (at 7). Her hormone tests showed

elevation of both testosterone and estrogen. We tried Calcium

D-Glucarate and DIM for the estrogens, but the levels continued to

elevate. She has been on melatonin for years (for sleep). We are now

looking at the Geier's protocol, but have made no decisions as yet.

Kathy T.

>

>

>

> hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

> My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had

mature

> body odor for yrs. I'm concerned how early this is but sure if I take

> her to the MD they'll say 8yrs is in the normal range. She is not ASD

> but anxiety/SM. She's doing well on that front with magnesium, 5-HTP

> & inositol, & probiotics. Yeast has always been her main issue. I

> was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth

> hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested &

> natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either

> of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last

> thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice

> I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same

> stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

> Do You Y

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter (NT) started showing signs of puberty at about age 8 too.

I didn't realize at the time what was going on. It is mercury in the

adrenals, hypothalmus, and pituitary that leads to poor adrenal

function. The adrenals try to work harder to pump out more cortisol,

but can't ever seem to make enough. The extra testoterone comes from

the adrenals that are trying to work harder.

The solution is to chelate the metals out of the adrenals, hypothalmus

and pituitary and to supply the right nutrients in diet and

supplements for these organs to heal.

It took way too long for me to find this out. We are just starting to

chelate her this year.

J

> > My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had

> mature

> > body odor for yrs. I'm concerned how early this is but sure if I take

> > her to the MD they'll say 8yrs is in the normal range. She is not ASD

> > but anxiety/SM. She's doing well on that front with magnesium, 5-HTP

> > & inositol, & probiotics. Yeast has always been her main issue. I

> > was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth

> > hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested &

> > natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either

> > of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last

> > thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice

> > I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same

> > stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> > Do You Y

> >

>

[Guest guest]

How much meat and dairy does she consume? The hormones they use for animals

play a role in precocious puberty in those who eat them.

S S

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> > My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had<br>

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> > was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth <br>

> > hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested & <br>

> > natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either <br>

> > of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last <br>

> > thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice <br>

> > I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same <br>

> > stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )<br>

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[Guest guest]

Its reported by Dr. Geier that austistic kids with high testosterone can not be

effectively chelated because of the existence of mercury-testosterone sheets

which can not be effectivley penetrated by a chelating agent.

lindajaytee <lindajaytee@...> wrote:

My daughter (NT) started showing signs of puberty at about age 8 too.

I didn't realize at the time what was going on. It is mercury in the

adrenals, hypothalmus, and pituitary that leads to poor adrenal

function. The adrenals try to work harder to pump out more cortisol,

but can't ever seem to make enough. The extra testoterone comes from

the adrenals that are trying to work harder.

The solution is to chelate the metals out of the adrenals, hypothalmus

and pituitary and to supply the right nutrients in diet and

supplements for these organs to heal.

It took way too long for me to find this out. We are just starting to

chelate her this year.

J

> > My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had

> mature

> > body odor for yrs. I'm concerned how early this is but sure if I take

> > her to the MD they'll say 8yrs is in the normal range. She is not ASD

> > but anxiety/SM. She's doing well on that front with magnesium, 5-HTP

> > & inositol, & probiotics. Yeast has always been her main issue. I

> > was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth

> > hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested &

> > natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either

> > of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last

> > thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice

> > I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same

> > stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> > Do You Y

> >

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> How much meat and dairy does she consume? The hormones they use for

animals play a role in precocious puberty in those who eat them.

> S S

>

Not too much, actually. She prefers pasta, fruits, and veggies. When

she does drink milk its organic.

[Guest guest]

> Hello ,

>

> I can say with a great degree of confidence that your child has

Precocious Puberty caused by autism. Its too long to explain the

science here. Basically, your child has too much testosterone

because the testosterone is trapped within testosterone-mercury

sheets.

I don't understand what testosterone has to do with puberty starting

in a female. If you can explain this that might help me. Also I

can say with great certainty that she doesn't have autism.

Poor kid is clogged up with testosterone. Listen to Dr. Geier:

>

> http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

> For ASD kids with very high testosterone, chelation is minimally

successful. You need to bring the testosterone down and perhaps

shut it off until you can chelate. Two methods of doing this:

>

> 1. Diflucan / Nizoral have a side-effect of testosterone

reduction but may not do this effectively enough.

>

> 2. Lupron will stop the testosterone but is reported to have

side-effects -- especially for adults.

>

> By the way, if you take her to an MD be sure to say that you

suspect " precocious puberty " and insist that she get tested (they

will check her testosterone level). I would also test your son as

well.

Unfortunately, I don't actually have a MD right now I'd trust to

take her to.

> Be sure to listen to the Geiers!

I've started to. So far I haven't heard anything that seems to

apply to my dd. They also said they haven't treated any girls.

[Guest guest]

> My daughter (NT) started showing signs of puberty at about age 8

too.

> I didn't realize at the time what was going on. It is mercury in

the

> adrenals, hypothalmus, and pituitary that leads to poor adrenal

> function. The adrenals try to work harder to pump out more

cortisol,

> but can't ever seem to make enough. The extra testoterone comes

from

> the adrenals that are trying to work harder.

>

> The solution is to chelate the metals out of the adrenals,

hypothalmus

> and pituitary and to supply the right nutrients in diet and

> supplements for these organs to heal.

>

> It took way too long for me to find this out. We are just

starting to

> chelate her this year.

>

> J

,

Thanks for your reply. We did a trial of chelation with her ~1yr

ago and didn't see any improvements or changes so we decided to

stop. Maybe we should do a hair test and see if she does in fact

have deranged mineral transport. Her brother responded well to

chelation right away.

What supplements & diet things are you doing to support the

adrenals,hypothalmus, and pituitary?

[Guest guest]

Wow! I assumed that autism treatment had parents of autistics --

like me. Guess I was wrong.

Testosterone has EVERYTHING to do with puberty. Girls have testosterone too.

If your child is nuerotypical, then go to a regular pediatrician and tell them

you suspect prococious puberty and insist on testing. If you don't trust your

MD, the tests are standard ones done in a lab with a blood test -- even your MD

can't get that wrong! -- all covered by insurance

You said so far you have not listened to all of Dr. Geier's video. If your

daughter is NT, then you are right, it does not apply to her.

hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

> Hello ,

>

> I can say with a great degree of confidence that your child has

Precocious Puberty caused by autism. Its too long to explain the

science here. Basically, your child has too much testosterone

because the testosterone is trapped within testosterone-mercury

sheets.

I don't understand what testosterone has to do with puberty starting

in a female. If you can explain this that might help me. Also I

can say with great certainty that she doesn't have autism.

Poor kid is clogged up with testosterone. Listen to Dr. Geier:

>

> http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

> For ASD kids with very high testosterone, chelation is minimally

successful. You need to bring the testosterone down and perhaps

shut it off until you can chelate. Two methods of doing this:

>

> 1. Diflucan / Nizoral have a side-effect of testosterone

reduction but may not do this effectively enough.

>

> 2. Lupron will stop the testosterone but is reported to have

side-effects -- especially for adults.

>

> By the way, if you take her to an MD be sure to say that you

suspect " precocious puberty " and insist that she get tested (they

will check her testosterone level). I would also test your son as

well.

Unfortunately, I don't actually have a MD right now I'd trust to

take her to.

> Be sure to listen to the Geiers!

I've started to. So far I haven't heard anything that seems to

apply to my dd. They also said they haven't treated any girls.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

OK, I did some quick research on SM -- never heard of it before now. Is this a

mercury toxicity issue? Have you tested her for mercury?

If this is a mercury issue, then the Geier protocal may be of use to her. If

you did not hear anything of use, you need to go back and listen again. Dr.

Geier does have female patients who are doing well. I know of at least 1

parent.

If you like, I can give you their email and you can talk to them. Its up to

you.

Best of luck.

Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

Wow! I assumed that autism treatment had parents of autistics --

like me. Guess I was wrong.

Testosterone has EVERYTHING to do with puberty. Girls have testosterone too.

If your child is nuerotypical, then go to a regular pediatrician and tell them

you suspect prococious puberty and insist on testing. If you don't trust your

MD, the tests are standard ones done in a lab with a blood test -- even your MD

can't get that wrong! -- all covered by insurance

You said so far you have not listened to all of Dr. Geier's video. If your

daughter is NT, then you are right, it does not apply to her.

hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

> Hello ,

>

> I can say with a great degree of confidence that your child has

Precocious Puberty caused by autism. Its too long to explain the

science here. Basically, your child has too much testosterone

because the testosterone is trapped within testosterone-mercury

sheets.

I don't understand what testosterone has to do with puberty starting

in a female. If you can explain this that might help me. Also I

can say with great certainty that she doesn't have autism.

Poor kid is clogged up with testosterone. Listen to Dr. Geier:

>

> http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

> For ASD kids with very high testosterone, chelation is minimally

successful. You need to bring the testosterone down and perhaps

shut it off until you can chelate. Two methods of doing this:

>

> 1. Diflucan / Nizoral have a side-effect of testosterone

reduction but may not do this effectively enough.

>

> 2. Lupron will stop the testosterone but is reported to have

side-effects -- especially for adults.

>

> By the way, if you take her to an MD be sure to say that you

suspect " precocious puberty " and insist that she get tested (they

will check her testosterone level). I would also test your son as

well.

Unfortunately, I don't actually have a MD right now I'd trust to

take her to.

> Be sure to listen to the Geiers!

I've started to. So far I haven't heard anything that seems to

apply to my dd. They also said they haven't treated any girls.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for your reply. We did a trial of chelation with her ~1yr

> ago and didn't see any improvements or changes so we decided to

> stop.

What chelators, dose, frequency were you using?

> Maybe we should do a hair test and see if she does in fact

> have deranged mineral transport.

That would be a good idea. There are other things that show up on the

hair test too. My daughter's test showed the adrenal signs very

clearly (mine does as well).

If there are side effects with chelation that would confirm toxicity.

My daughter got fatigue and headaches at the end of her first ALA

chelation rounds.

I expect chelation will be a long slow process.

> Her brother responded well to

> chelation right away.

>

> What supplements & diet things are you doing to support the

> adrenals,hypothalmus, and pituitary?

>

That's a good question. My daughter is resistant to supplementation,

so this is quite a challenge. I am hoping she will supplement more as

time goes on.

Right now, I try to encourage her to take 1-2 T cod liver oil per day

(she does occasionally). I cook small fresh fish when I can find it

in the stores. The essential fats are important for brain healing,

the vitamin A for immunity, and she was tested to be low in vitamin D.

I try to get vitamins and minerals into her by preparing fresh

vegetable and fruit juices, lots of soup broths made from meaty bones

and vegetables, salads and dips with fresh vegs extra virgin olive oil

lemon juice and avocado, blender drinks with fresh berries protein

powder and other things. Some supplements can go in the blender

drinks. At least her diet is very good.

I have the very basic, basic supplements set out for her (Mg, Zn, vit

C, B50, vit E, milk thistle, molybdenum). She takes them very

occasionally.

If the 'pile' of supplements looks too big, she won't take any at all.

So far she has done several rounds of 5 mg ALA per dose and will be

doing a round of 10 mg this weekend.

It's going to take forever at this rate.

J

>

>

[Guest guest]

> OK, I did some quick research on SM -- never heard of it before

now. Is this a mercury toxicity issue? Have you tested her for

mercury?

>

> If this is a mercury issue, then the Geier protocal may be of

use to her. If you did not hear anything of use, you need to go

back and listen again. Dr. Geier does have female patients who are

doing well. I know of at least 1 parent.

>

> If you like, I can give you their email and you can talk to

them. Its up to you.

>

> Best of luck.

I just sent you an email. We haven't done a hair test on her. We

did one on her older brother. He has AS. Its overwhelming at times

with two kids with issues as many here know. You have to pick and

choose sometimes. We know she had less exposure than her brother.

She has no amalgams and did not get her kidergarten boosters. Her

brother responded very well to chelation so we did a trail with her

and she didn't respond. I did finish the Geiers video and I think

it might apply to her. I would like their email.

[Guest guest]

My daughter also started early puberty, with pubic hair at age 8. She just

turned 11 (this week!) and so far, thankfully, has not started her period, but

has small breasts, armpit hair, etc. Very sad, since this is a little girl who

still loves Barney and children's singalongs. I suspect the melatonin I've been

giving her over the years probably contributed to this problem, since we don't

give her meats with hormones. I've had other parents tell me that melatonin can

contribute to early puberty but I haven't done any " official " research.

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From: " lindajaytee " <lindajaytee@...>

My daughter (NT) started showing signs of puberty at about age 8 too.

I didn't realize at the time what was going on. It is mercury in the

adrenals, hypothalmus, and pituitary that leads to poor adrenal

function. The adrenals try to work harder to pump out more cortisol,

but can't ever seem to make enough. The extra testoterone comes from

the adrenals that are trying to work harder.

The solution is to chelate the metals out of the adrenals, hypothalmus

and pituitary and to supply the right nutrients in diet and

supplements for these organs to heal.

It took way too long for me to find this out. We are just starting to

chelate her this year.

J

> > My just turned 8yr old is developing pubic hair. She's had

> mature

> > body odor for yrs. I'm concerned how early this is but sure if I take

> > her to the MD they'll say 8yrs is in the normal range. She is not ASD

> > but anxiety/SM. She's doing well on that front with magnesium, 5-HTP

> > & inositol, & probiotics. Yeast has always been her main issue. I

> > was reading the archives and know all the stuff about soy and growth

> > hormones, ect. In the archives Calcium D-Glucarate was suggested &

> > natural progesterone cream. Does anyone have experience with either

> > of these two with a child. She's ~72lbs btw. Puberty is the last

> > thing this little girl needs to deal with. If anyone has any advice

> > I'd appreciate it. (btw, her older AS brother by 3 yrs is in the same

> > stage of puberty but ahead by about 1-2 months. How fair is that?! )

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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How long a trial, which chelator(s), what dose, what route? Different people

(even within the same family) respond differently to different supplement,

interventions, etc.

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Thanks for your reply. We did a trial of chelation with her ~1yr <br>

ago and didn't see any improvements or changes so we decided to <br>

stop. Maybe we should do a hair test and see if she does in fact <br>

have deranged mineral transport. Her brother responded well to <br>

chelation right away.<br>

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What supplements & diet things are you doing to support the <br>

adrenals,hypothalmu<wbr>s, and pituitary?<br>

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Do you have an acupuncturist in the area, some of them can balance hormones.

Might be worth a consultation, at least.

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> How much meat and dairy does she consume? The hormones they use for <br>

animals play a role in precocious puberty in those who eat them.<br>

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Not too much, actually. She prefers pasta, fruits, and veggies. When <br>

she does drink milk its organic.<br>

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> How long a trial, which chelator(s), what dose, what route?

Different people (even within the same family) respond differently to

different supplement, interventions, etc.

> S S (a different )

We did oral ALA every 3hrs (4 @ night). I can't remember exactly how

many rounds we did.

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Would you guess two rounds? Ten? Twenty?

S S

> How long a trial, which chelator(s), what dose, what route? <br>

Different people (even within the same family) respond differently to <br>

different supplement, interventions, etc.<br>

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We did oral ALA every 3hrs (4 @ night). I can't remember exactly how <br>

many rounds we did. <br>

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> What chelators, dose, frequency were you using?

We did ALA every 3 hrs @ 12.5mg, 3 on 4 off. We didn't see anyting

positive or negative.

> If the 'pile' of supplements looks too big, she won't take any at

all.

That sounds just like my dd. She'll only take the little pills

too. Right now its magnesium liquid, 5-HTP, inositol powder, and

biotin. She refuses the nordic naturals I'd like her to take.

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> So far she has done several rounds of 5 mg ALA per dose and will be

> doing a round of 10 mg this weekend.

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> It's going to take forever at this rate.

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Wishing you lots of luck with the chelation!

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> Would you guess two rounds? Ten? Twenty?

> S S

(trying this reply again, sorry it goes through twice) Ok if your

gonna make me guess I think 4, about a months worth.

PS Thanks for the accupunture idea. There is one near by who works

with kids. I think I'll give that a try.

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> > How long a trial, which chelator(s), what dose, what route? <br>

> Different people (even within the same family) respond differently

to <br>

> different supplement, interventions, etc.<br>

> > S S (a different )<br>

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> We did oral ALA every 3hrs (4 @ night). I can't remember exactly

how <br>

> many rounds we did. <br>

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My daughter also started early puberty, with pubic hair at age 8. She

just turned 11 (this week!) and so far, thankfully, has not started

her period, but has small breasts, armpit hair, etc. Very sad, since

this is a little girl who still loves Barney and children's

singalongs. I suspect the melatonin I've been giving her over the

years probably contributed to this problem, since we don't give her

meats with hormones. I've had other parents tell me that melatonin can

contribute to early puberty but I haven't done any " official " research.

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Thanks for letting me know. That's encouraging actually. Happy

birthday to your dd. Have you been chelating her? Did you do anyting

specific to address the puberty?

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I think Andy suggests 5-10 rounds for a chelation trial.

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> Would you guess two rounds? Ten? Twenty?<br>

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(trying this reply again, sorry it goes through twice) Ok if your <br>

gonna make me guess I think 4, about a months worth. <br>

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PS Thanks for the accupunture idea. There is one near by who works <br>

with kids. I think I'll give that a try. <br>

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Can some be incorporated into her food? Some things mix nicely into smoothies

(If she's ok with fruit), others like liquid EFAs can be poured over rice,

potatoes, millet, or quinoa and veggies (after they're cooked). The brand

(Health From the Sun) I use tastes like melted butter.

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> What chelators, dose, frequency were you using?<br>

<br>

We did ALA every 3 hrs @ 12.5mg, 3 on 4 off. We didn't see anyting <br>

positive or negative.<br>

<br>

> If the 'pile' of supplements looks too big, she won't take any at <br>

all.<br>

<br>

That sounds just like my dd. She'll only take the little pills <br>

too. Right now its magnesium liquid, 5-HTP, inositol powder, and <br>

biotin. She refuses the nordic naturals I'd like her to take.<br>

<br>

> <br>

> So far she has done several rounds of 5 mg ALA per dose and will be<br>

> doing a round of 10 mg this weekend.<br>

> <br>

> It's going to take forever at this rate.<br>

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> J<br>

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Wishing you lots of luck with the chelation!<br>

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