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In a message dated 13/10/2006 13:28:51 GMT Standard Time,

_Shepard@... writes:

Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro

in regards to heavy metals.

S S

So what are you suggesting about Cilantro?

regards

CS

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Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro in

regards to heavy metals.

S S

<p>I just got this today and thought I should share it with you

all.<br>

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Sudha<br>

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In a message dated 13/10/2006 16:55:35 GMT Standard Time,

_Shepard@... writes:

That it's contraindicated because of the challenge of keeping a steady

amount in the bloodstream and risk of redistribution.

S S

Once you raise glutathione over 12 months or so - and your bodys glutathione

pathways have opened up - why would you need to worry about redistribution?

Your bodys glutathione system would mop any metals circulating even if you

take Cilantro albeit at a low dosage.

Regards

CS

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That it's contraindicated because of the challenge of keeping a steady amount in

the bloodstream and risk of redistribution.

S S

<br>

Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro

<br>

in regards to heavy metals.<br>

S S<br>

<br>

So what are you suggesting about Cilantro?<br>

<br>

<br>

regards<br>

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In a message dated 13/10/2006 13:54:00 GMT Daylight Time, bhammanuk@...

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Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro

in regards to heavy metals.

S S

So what are you suggesting about Cilantro?

>>Read the link and yuo'll find out

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Many people on this list have detox pathways that aren't working properly or

don't work the same way as those of people who are not mercury-toxic.

S S

Once you raise glutathione over 12 months or so - and your bodys glutathione

<br>

pathways have opened up - why would you need to worry about redistribution?<br>

<br>

Your bodys glutathione system would mop any metals circulating even if you <br>

take Cilantro albeit at a low dosage.<br>

<br>

<br>

Regards<br>

CS<br>

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>

> Hi Sudha,

> I use cilantro religiously with my family.

And don't forget that your son was already chelated with DMSA (and was

it ALA too?, for how long?), so his body burden of metals was already

reduced and he will be at lower risk of damage from the cilantro

moving metals into the brain and organs.

It is the people who are severely toxic, have mercury in critical

places, and already have frail health who will be damaged the most by

cilantro. I don't mind warning people that the risk of severe

worsening comes with cilantro use. There are lots of stories from

adults in various archives confirming this. And lots of those adults

wish someone had told them before they used foolish protocols.

> >

> > I just got this today and thought I should share it with you all.

> >

> > http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html

> >

> >

Why would anyone want to use something as risky as cilantro when we

already have a 'natural' chelator? ALA is about as natural as anyone

could hope for - it is found in every human body. We know exactly

what it is and it has been studied extensively. The inconvenience is

taking doses every 3 h. That is the way to ensure that the metals

keep moving until they leave the body. If anyone thinks that they can

just dose cilantro at random and get metals to leave the body they are

wrong. Cilantro would have to be dosed at the half life of the active

ingredient too. Problem is no one knows what the active ingredient,

no one knows when to take the next dose, and we can't even be sure

that it would take metals out of the body because the proper research

hasn't been done (and some of the reports that have been done are

contradictory). To jump on a bandwagon because of research that Omura

has done is foolish. Go and look at his papers and see for yourself

all the flaws.

The other problem with ALA is that there isn't big money to be made

out of it so it doesn't get attention. All sorts of companies want to

jump on the cilantro band wagon and spread false rumours so that they

can enjoy the profits.

J

> > Sudha

> >

>

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In a message dated 14/10/2006 02:56:15 GMT Standard Time,

lindajaytee@... writes:

And don't forget that your son was already chelated with DMSA (and was

it ALA too?, for how long?), so his body burden of metals was already

reduced and he will be at lower risk of damage from the cilantro

moving metals into the brain and organs.

It is the people who are severely toxic, have mercury in critical

places, and already have frail health who will be damaged the most by

cilantro. I don't mind warning people that the risk of severe

worsening comes with cilantro use. There are lots of stories from

adults in various archives confirming this. And lots of those adults

wish someone had told them before they used foolish protocols.

****Any chelator should only be used after preparing your body first which

I imagine can take over 12 minths.

Regards

CS

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In a message dated 14/10/2006 07:16:15 GMT Standard Time,

raquelerro@... writes:

There was a time I craved cilantro, however, check the archives and

the F & Q, cilantro is dangerous.

Raquel

*****I have been ill with CFS for 16 years.

It has taken me 12 mionths to propare my body.

I have detoxed and detoxing all the major detox organs before taking

Cilantro.

I am getting positive results.

regards

CS

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Thanks for all the information. I appreciate it.

I am still new to all this and am still in the process of educating

myself. One question I have is whether cilantro has been found

dangerous as a 'mercury chelator' only or in its general use because

cilantro and coriander (seeds and powdered form) are an integral and

very dominant part of our Indian cuisine (practically all the foods)

from many generations before ours. My older kids who have had the

same vaccinations and other metal exposure, if any, as my 3rd ASD son

have no problems. Could it have been the Indian foods which took care

of it without my even being aware of it? My 3rd son has not been

eating enough of Indian foods until recently.

One thing about Indian foods is that coriander seeds and leaves are

used in conjunction with many other spices (like turmeric, cumin,

fenugreek, asafeotida, and many more) and with plenty of vegetables,

coconut, etc and in a 'certain' proportion and is also used

consistently by default. So it could be the formula as a whole that

works.

Perhaps it might be safe from Indian point of view to use cilantro

and its seeds because they know how to use it and how much and with

what to use it not as a chelator specifically but as part of diet.

I will be seeing a DAN nutritionist for the first time next month and

will ask her for her opinions also.

Thanks once again.

With best wishes,

Sudha

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It's a problem for people with mercury toxicity and probably not a good idea for

anyone with mercury amalgam dental fillings. Cilantro is also used in Mexican

cooking.

S S

<p>Thanks for all the information. I appreciate it.<br>

<br>

I am still new to all this and am still in the process of educating <br>

myself. One question I have is whether cilantro has been found <br>

dangerous as a 'mercury chelator' only or in its general use because <br>

cilantro and coriander (seeds and powdered form) are an integral and <br>

very dominant part of our Indian cuisine (practically all the foods) <br>

from many generations before ours. My older kids who have had the <br>

same vaccinations and other metal exposure, if any, as my 3rd ASD son <br>

have no problems. Could it have been the Indian foods which took care <br>

of it without my even being aware of it? My 3rd son has not been <br>

eating enough of Indian foods until recently. <br>

<br>

One thing about Indian foods is that coriander seeds and leaves are <br>

used in conjunction with many other spices (like turmeric, cumin, <br>

fenugreek, asafeotida, and many more) and with plenty of vegetables, <br>

coconut, etc and in a 'certain' proportion and is also used <br>

consistently by default. So it could be the formula as a whole that <br>

works.<br>

<br>

Perhaps it might be safe from Indian point of view to use cilantro <br>

and its seeds because they know how to use it and how much and with <br>

what to use it not as a chelator specifically but as part of diet. <br>

<br>

I will be seeing a DAN nutritionist for the first time next month and <br>

will ask her for her opinions also.<br>

<br>

Thanks once again.<br>

<br>

With best wishes,<br>

<br>

Sudha<br>

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In a message dated 15/10/2006 13:54:10 GMT Standard Time,

_Shepard@... writes:

It's a problem for people with mercury toxicity and probably not a good idea

for anyone with mercury amalgam dental fillings. Cilantro is also used in

Mexican cooking.

S S

*********I dont think it is if you spend considerable time raising

glutatione and replete glutathione whilst taking it. Im actually talking from

experience!

Regards

CS

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In a message dated 15/10/2006 17:14:48 GMT Standard Time,

mommy.boy@... writes:

Sudha,

We don't want to use Cilantro as a chelator right away without the body

being ready for chelation. I wouldn't use it at all if metals are present as

a chelator because we need to be sure that the chelator is effective- can

grab the metal and transport it all the way out of the body - an arduous

journey. I would use something that the biochemsitry is understood.

****When you have raised Glutathione over a considerable length of time and

you repleting at the same time with Glutathione why would you need to worry

about redistribution??

Having said that, I know of people who have chelated with known chelators as

discussed on this list and after a while, after finishing that, used herbal

chelators to further mop up- they saw results! But their body was ready then

and no redistribution occurred.

So one needs to get the order right.

But I do use coriander and cilantro sparingly in food spices as I am used to

doing.

***I believe the Indian spices are the best thing to use in your cooking

once Glutathione levels are up.

Regards

Cs

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Sudha,

We don't want to use Cilantro as a chelator right away without the body

being ready for chelation. I wouldn't use it at all if metals are present as

a chelator because we need to be sure that the chelator is effective- can

grab the metal and transport it all the way out of the body - an arduous

journey. I would use something that the biochemsitry is understood.

Having said that, I know of people who have chelated with known chelators as

discussed on this list and after a while, after finishing that, used herbal

chelators to further mop up- they saw results! But their body was ready then

and no redistribution occurred.

So one needs to get the order right.

But I do use coriander and cilantro sparingly in food spices as I am used to

doing.

On 10/15/06, sudha_vaidya <sudha_vaidya@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for all the information. I appreciate it.

>

> I am still new to all this and am still in the process of educating

> myself. One question I have is whether cilantro has been found

> dangerous as a 'mercury chelator' only or in its general use because

> cilantro and coriander (seeds and powdered form) are an integral and

> very dominant part of our Indian cuisine (practically all the foods)

> from many generations before ours. My older kids who have had the

> same vaccinations and other metal exposure, if any, as my 3rd ASD son

> have no problems. Could it have been the Indian foods which took care

> of it without my even being aware of it? My 3rd son has not been

> eating enough of Indian foods until recently.

>

> One thing about Indian foods is that coriander seeds and leaves are

> used in conjunction with many other spices (like turmeric, cumin,

> fenugreek, asafeotida, and many more) and with plenty of vegetables,

> coconut, etc and in a 'certain' proportion and is also used

> consistently by default. So it could be the formula as a whole that

> works.

>

> Perhaps it might be safe from Indian point of view to use cilantro

> and its seeds because they know how to use it and how much and with

> what to use it not as a chelator specifically but as part of diet.

>

> I will be seeing a DAN nutritionist for the first time next month and

> will ask her for her opinions also.

>

> Thanks once again.

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Sudha

>

>

>

>

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Sudha,

I chelated using cilantro. I began eating lunch most days at a restaurant

that used a lot of cilantro. The food was doing so much to help me get well

that I began researching what it was about the food that was helping me.

The food was organic and some of the spices helped my respiratory problems.

I ate there for 6 months before I joined this list and learned that cilantro

is a chelator. Because what I was doing happened to be working, I continued

it for about 10 more months before negative side-effects forced me to stop.

A big problem with cilantro is that no one knows what is in the cilantro

which acts as a chelator so there is no way to figure out how to dose it

properly. I just tripped across something that worked for me but I really

can't tell anyone how to replicate my experiences.

I have not participated much on this list this year. But last year (and

probably the year before), I did write some about my first-hand experiences

with using cilantro. If you use Onibasu to search this list for " Michele

cilantro " , you should come across some of my posts on the topic. My website

back then was called " Michele's World " and I had a different signature line,

so don't let that confuse you. :-)

HTH,

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In a message dated 16/10/2006 01:16:06 GMT Standard Time,

talithamichele@... writes:

Sudha,

I chelated using cilantro. I began eating lunch most days at a restaurant

that used a lot of cilantro. The food was doing so much to help me get well

that I began researching what it was about the food that was helping me.

The food was organic and some of the spices helped my respiratory problems.

I ate there for 6 months before I joined this list and learned that cilantro

is a chelator. Because what I was doing happened to be working, I continued

it for about 10 more months before negative side-effects forced me to stop.

A big problem with cilantro is that no one knows what is in the cilantro

which acts as a chelator so there is no way to figure out how to dose it

properly. I just tripped across something that worked for me but I really

can't tell anyone how to replicate my experiences.

I have not participated much on this list this year. But last year (and

probably the year before), I did write some about my first-hand experiences

with using cilantro. If you use Onibasu to search this list for " Michele

cilantro " , you should come across some of my posts on the topic. My website

back then was called " Michele's World " and I had a different signature line,

so don't let that confuse you. :-)

HTH,

***You should never consider going anywhere near a chelator until your

glutathione levels are up which can take considerable time.

Regards

CS

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