Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 In a message dated 13/10/2006 13:28:51 GMT Standard Time, _Shepard@... writes: Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro in regards to heavy metals. S S So what are you suggesting about Cilantro? regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro in regards to heavy metals. S S <p>I just got this today and thought I should share it with you all.<br> <br> <a href= " http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html " >http:\ //www.rawfoodi<wbr>nfo.com/articles<wbr>/art_cilantrorem<wbr>heavymetals.<wbr>ht\ ml</a><br> <br> Sudha<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 In a message dated 13/10/2006 16:55:35 GMT Standard Time, _Shepard@... writes: That it's contraindicated because of the challenge of keeping a steady amount in the bloodstream and risk of redistribution. S S Once you raise glutathione over 12 months or so - and your bodys glutathione pathways have opened up - why would you need to worry about redistribution? Your bodys glutathione system would mop any metals circulating even if you take Cilantro albeit at a low dosage. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 That it's contraindicated because of the challenge of keeping a steady amount in the bloodstream and risk of redistribution. S S <br> Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro <br> in regards to heavy metals.<br> S S<br> <br> So what are you suggesting about Cilantro?<br> <br> <br> regards<br> CS<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi Sudha, I use cilantro religiously with my family. I sprinkle it on almost every meal we eat. I appreciate this info! My best, Tami W Gavin's mom > > I just got this today and thought I should share it with you all. > > http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html > > > Sudha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 In a message dated 13/10/2006 13:54:00 GMT Daylight Time, bhammanuk@... writes: Please read the FAQs of this list for info about the problems with cilantro in regards to heavy metals. S S So what are you suggesting about Cilantro? >>Read the link and yuo'll find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Many people on this list have detox pathways that aren't working properly or don't work the same way as those of people who are not mercury-toxic. S S Once you raise glutathione over 12 months or so - and your bodys glutathione <br> pathways have opened up - why would you need to worry about redistribution?<br> <br> Your bodys glutathione system would mop any metals circulating even if you <br> take Cilantro albeit at a low dosage.<br> <br> <br> Regards<br> CS<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 > > Hi Sudha, > I use cilantro religiously with my family. And don't forget that your son was already chelated with DMSA (and was it ALA too?, for how long?), so his body burden of metals was already reduced and he will be at lower risk of damage from the cilantro moving metals into the brain and organs. It is the people who are severely toxic, have mercury in critical places, and already have frail health who will be damaged the most by cilantro. I don't mind warning people that the risk of severe worsening comes with cilantro use. There are lots of stories from adults in various archives confirming this. And lots of those adults wish someone had told them before they used foolish protocols. > > > > I just got this today and thought I should share it with you all. > > > > http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html > > > > Why would anyone want to use something as risky as cilantro when we already have a 'natural' chelator? ALA is about as natural as anyone could hope for - it is found in every human body. We know exactly what it is and it has been studied extensively. The inconvenience is taking doses every 3 h. That is the way to ensure that the metals keep moving until they leave the body. If anyone thinks that they can just dose cilantro at random and get metals to leave the body they are wrong. Cilantro would have to be dosed at the half life of the active ingredient too. Problem is no one knows what the active ingredient, no one knows when to take the next dose, and we can't even be sure that it would take metals out of the body because the proper research hasn't been done (and some of the reports that have been done are contradictory). To jump on a bandwagon because of research that Omura has done is foolish. Go and look at his papers and see for yourself all the flaws. The other problem with ALA is that there isn't big money to be made out of it so it doesn't get attention. All sorts of companies want to jump on the cilantro band wagon and spread false rumours so that they can enjoy the profits. J > > Sudha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 In a message dated 14/10/2006 02:56:15 GMT Standard Time, lindajaytee@... writes: And don't forget that your son was already chelated with DMSA (and was it ALA too?, for how long?), so his body burden of metals was already reduced and he will be at lower risk of damage from the cilantro moving metals into the brain and organs. It is the people who are severely toxic, have mercury in critical places, and already have frail health who will be damaged the most by cilantro. I don't mind warning people that the risk of severe worsening comes with cilantro use. There are lots of stories from adults in various archives confirming this. And lots of those adults wish someone had told them before they used foolish protocols. ****Any chelator should only be used after preparing your body first which I imagine can take over 12 minths. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 In a message dated 14/10/2006 07:16:15 GMT Standard Time, raquelerro@... writes: There was a time I craved cilantro, however, check the archives and the F & Q, cilantro is dangerous. Raquel *****I have been ill with CFS for 16 years. It has taken me 12 mionths to propare my body. I have detoxed and detoxing all the major detox organs before taking Cilantro. I am getting positive results. regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 There was a time I craved cilantro, however, check the archives and the F & Q, cilantro is dangerous. Raquel > > > > I just got this today and thought I should share it with you all. > > > > http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html > > > > > > Sudha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Thanks for all the information. I appreciate it. I am still new to all this and am still in the process of educating myself. One question I have is whether cilantro has been found dangerous as a 'mercury chelator' only or in its general use because cilantro and coriander (seeds and powdered form) are an integral and very dominant part of our Indian cuisine (practically all the foods) from many generations before ours. My older kids who have had the same vaccinations and other metal exposure, if any, as my 3rd ASD son have no problems. Could it have been the Indian foods which took care of it without my even being aware of it? My 3rd son has not been eating enough of Indian foods until recently. One thing about Indian foods is that coriander seeds and leaves are used in conjunction with many other spices (like turmeric, cumin, fenugreek, asafeotida, and many more) and with plenty of vegetables, coconut, etc and in a 'certain' proportion and is also used consistently by default. So it could be the formula as a whole that works. Perhaps it might be safe from Indian point of view to use cilantro and its seeds because they know how to use it and how much and with what to use it not as a chelator specifically but as part of diet. I will be seeing a DAN nutritionist for the first time next month and will ask her for her opinions also. Thanks once again. With best wishes, Sudha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 It's a problem for people with mercury toxicity and probably not a good idea for anyone with mercury amalgam dental fillings. Cilantro is also used in Mexican cooking. S S <p>Thanks for all the information. I appreciate it.<br> <br> I am still new to all this and am still in the process of educating <br> myself. One question I have is whether cilantro has been found <br> dangerous as a 'mercury chelator' only or in its general use because <br> cilantro and coriander (seeds and powdered form) are an integral and <br> very dominant part of our Indian cuisine (practically all the foods) <br> from many generations before ours. My older kids who have had the <br> same vaccinations and other metal exposure, if any, as my 3rd ASD son <br> have no problems. Could it have been the Indian foods which took care <br> of it without my even being aware of it? My 3rd son has not been <br> eating enough of Indian foods until recently. <br> <br> One thing about Indian foods is that coriander seeds and leaves are <br> used in conjunction with many other spices (like turmeric, cumin, <br> fenugreek, asafeotida, and many more) and with plenty of vegetables, <br> coconut, etc and in a 'certain' proportion and is also used <br> consistently by default. So it could be the formula as a whole that <br> works.<br> <br> Perhaps it might be safe from Indian point of view to use cilantro <br> and its seeds because they know how to use it and how much and with <br> what to use it not as a chelator specifically but as part of diet. <br> <br> I will be seeing a DAN nutritionist for the first time next month and <br> will ask her for her opinions also.<br> <br> Thanks once again.<br> <br> With best wishes,<br> <br> Sudha<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 In a message dated 15/10/2006 13:54:10 GMT Standard Time, _Shepard@... writes: It's a problem for people with mercury toxicity and probably not a good idea for anyone with mercury amalgam dental fillings. Cilantro is also used in Mexican cooking. S S *********I dont think it is if you spend considerable time raising glutatione and replete glutathione whilst taking it. Im actually talking from experience! Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 In a message dated 15/10/2006 17:14:48 GMT Standard Time, mommy.boy@... writes: Sudha, We don't want to use Cilantro as a chelator right away without the body being ready for chelation. I wouldn't use it at all if metals are present as a chelator because we need to be sure that the chelator is effective- can grab the metal and transport it all the way out of the body - an arduous journey. I would use something that the biochemsitry is understood. ****When you have raised Glutathione over a considerable length of time and you repleting at the same time with Glutathione why would you need to worry about redistribution?? Having said that, I know of people who have chelated with known chelators as discussed on this list and after a while, after finishing that, used herbal chelators to further mop up- they saw results! But their body was ready then and no redistribution occurred. So one needs to get the order right. But I do use coriander and cilantro sparingly in food spices as I am used to doing. ***I believe the Indian spices are the best thing to use in your cooking once Glutathione levels are up. Regards Cs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sudha, We don't want to use Cilantro as a chelator right away without the body being ready for chelation. I wouldn't use it at all if metals are present as a chelator because we need to be sure that the chelator is effective- can grab the metal and transport it all the way out of the body - an arduous journey. I would use something that the biochemsitry is understood. Having said that, I know of people who have chelated with known chelators as discussed on this list and after a while, after finishing that, used herbal chelators to further mop up- they saw results! But their body was ready then and no redistribution occurred. So one needs to get the order right. But I do use coriander and cilantro sparingly in food spices as I am used to doing. On 10/15/06, sudha_vaidya <sudha_vaidya@...> wrote: > > Thanks for all the information. I appreciate it. > > I am still new to all this and am still in the process of educating > myself. One question I have is whether cilantro has been found > dangerous as a 'mercury chelator' only or in its general use because > cilantro and coriander (seeds and powdered form) are an integral and > very dominant part of our Indian cuisine (practically all the foods) > from many generations before ours. My older kids who have had the > same vaccinations and other metal exposure, if any, as my 3rd ASD son > have no problems. Could it have been the Indian foods which took care > of it without my even being aware of it? My 3rd son has not been > eating enough of Indian foods until recently. > > One thing about Indian foods is that coriander seeds and leaves are > used in conjunction with many other spices (like turmeric, cumin, > fenugreek, asafeotida, and many more) and with plenty of vegetables, > coconut, etc and in a 'certain' proportion and is also used > consistently by default. So it could be the formula as a whole that > works. > > Perhaps it might be safe from Indian point of view to use cilantro > and its seeds because they know how to use it and how much and with > what to use it not as a chelator specifically but as part of diet. > > I will be seeing a DAN nutritionist for the first time next month and > will ask her for her opinions also. > > Thanks once again. > > With best wishes, > > Sudha > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sudha, I chelated using cilantro. I began eating lunch most days at a restaurant that used a lot of cilantro. The food was doing so much to help me get well that I began researching what it was about the food that was helping me. The food was organic and some of the spices helped my respiratory problems. I ate there for 6 months before I joined this list and learned that cilantro is a chelator. Because what I was doing happened to be working, I continued it for about 10 more months before negative side-effects forced me to stop. A big problem with cilantro is that no one knows what is in the cilantro which acts as a chelator so there is no way to figure out how to dose it properly. I just tripped across something that worked for me but I really can't tell anyone how to replicate my experiences. I have not participated much on this list this year. But last year (and probably the year before), I did write some about my first-hand experiences with using cilantro. If you use Onibasu to search this list for " Michele cilantro " , you should come across some of my posts on the topic. My website back then was called " Michele's World " and I had a different signature line, so don't let that confuse you. :-) HTH, -- Michele -- almost free of Limbo and searching for a new " signature " . :-) talithamichele@... Portal to my Websites: www.atraceofme.com " Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 In a message dated 16/10/2006 01:16:06 GMT Standard Time, talithamichele@... writes: Sudha, I chelated using cilantro. I began eating lunch most days at a restaurant that used a lot of cilantro. The food was doing so much to help me get well that I began researching what it was about the food that was helping me. The food was organic and some of the spices helped my respiratory problems. I ate there for 6 months before I joined this list and learned that cilantro is a chelator. Because what I was doing happened to be working, I continued it for about 10 more months before negative side-effects forced me to stop. A big problem with cilantro is that no one knows what is in the cilantro which acts as a chelator so there is no way to figure out how to dose it properly. I just tripped across something that worked for me but I really can't tell anyone how to replicate my experiences. I have not participated much on this list this year. But last year (and probably the year before), I did write some about my first-hand experiences with using cilantro. If you use Onibasu to search this list for " Michele cilantro " , you should come across some of my posts on the topic. My website back then was called " Michele's World " and I had a different signature line, so don't let that confuse you. :-) HTH, ***You should never consider going anywhere near a chelator until your glutathione levels are up which can take considerable time. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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