Viral Issues Surfaced - HELP - What To Do Now?

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Hi All,

Yesterday we began a chelation round. My son was doing great going

into the round. We started yesterday morning at our usual dose: 10

mgs DMSA, 13 mgs ALA, every three hours. For the beginning of the

day he was fine. Towards the afternoon we saw better language, less

repetive and more expansive than normal. He was doing some nice

play. Then after the 5:00 dose, he said " feeling hotter and

hotter. " I took his temp and it registered at 102.5, so I stopped

chelation. This is a kid who hasn't run any kind of fever since I

had him on Virastop and OLE months ago, and then the fevers were

lower and very short lived. I put him in a tepid bath and tried to

run without any ibuprofen as long as I could, but towards 8:30 pm it

was clear he was in a lot of pain. He was screaming and screaming,

hadn't eaten, hadn't pooped, and wasn't sleeping. He did remain

pretty well hydrated. We broke down and gave him some ibuprofen at

9:00. He ate some dinner and then slept pretty well and for almost

12 hours. This morning he is looping on his phrases, including some

old ones we hadn't seen for quite some time. Organic speech seems to

be gone. I am trying to figure out what to do. I think a big

contributing factor on this one was that I had started him 4 days ago

on some Uva Ursi to combat a bacteria issue that I couldn't otherwise

get on top of. I had planned to run it only for up to seven days,

depending on what we were seeing. It seemed to be working. His

poops went from green to brown, and became better textured. His

language and recall was better. On the Uva Ursi we saw nothing bad

except somewhat decreased appetite, though he was still eating fairly

well, and lots of good.

My gut tells me that we lost a good opportunity to chase down some

virus. What do I do now? Do I try to chase it down? I would love

to throw some Virastop at him, but the last few times I have tried to

introduce it, he has complained of stomach aches. He is on Valtrex

(has been for months) and a little bit of OLE. He is running a bit

warmer than usual, but nothing too high (in the 99s). He pooped this

morning and it almost looked normal.

Sorry this is so rambling. Just trying to find out what others would

do if faced with this.

Anne

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Yikes. After reading back through some other posts, it occured to me

that maybe what we were seeing was die-off reaction. It is pretty

clear we had a pretty bad bacterial infection. Does die off happen

with bacteria as well as with yeast? Funny thing is that my son's

tongue, which had been beautiful before all of this, is now looking a

little yeasty. I gave him some GSE (just two drops) with no-phenol

before considering this possibility, so we may be in for some more

surprises here. I have not given the uva ursi this morning, though I

am considering it.

All suggestions/comments/etc invited.

Anne

>

> Hi All,

>

> Yesterday we began a chelation round. My son was doing great going

> into the round. We started yesterday morning at our usual dose: 10

> mgs DMSA, 13 mgs ALA, every three hours. For the beginning of the

> day he was fine. Towards the afternoon we saw better language,

less

> repetive and more expansive than normal. He was doing some nice

> play. Then after the 5:00 dose, he said " feeling hotter and

> hotter. " I took his temp and it registered at 102.5, so I stopped

> chelation. This is a kid who hasn't run any kind of fever since I

> had him on Virastop and OLE months ago, and then the fevers were

> lower and very short lived. I put him in a tepid bath and tried to

> run without any ibuprofen as long as I could, but towards 8:30 pm

it

> was clear he was in a lot of pain. He was screaming and screaming,

> hadn't eaten, hadn't pooped, and wasn't sleeping. He did remain

> pretty well hydrated. We broke down and gave him some ibuprofen at

> 9:00. He ate some dinner and then slept pretty well and for almost

> 12 hours. This morning he is looping on his phrases, including

some

> old ones we hadn't seen for quite some time. Organic speech seems

to

> be gone. I am trying to figure out what to do. I think a big

> contributing factor on this one was that I had started him 4 days

ago

> on some Uva Ursi to combat a bacteria issue that I couldn't

otherwise

> get on top of. I had planned to run it only for up to seven days,

> depending on what we were seeing. It seemed to be working. His

> poops went from green to brown, and became better textured. His

> language and recall was better. On the Uva Ursi we saw nothing bad

> except somewhat decreased appetite, though he was still eating

fairly

> well, and lots of good.

>

> My gut tells me that we lost a good opportunity to chase down some

> virus. What do I do now? Do I try to chase it down? I would love

> to throw some Virastop at him, but the last few times I have tried

to

> introduce it, he has complained of stomach aches. He is on Valtrex

> (has been for months) and a little bit of OLE. He is running a bit

> warmer than usual, but nothing too high (in the 99s). He pooped

this

> morning and it almost looked normal.

>

> Sorry this is so rambling. Just trying to find out what others

would

> do if faced with this.

>

> Anne

>

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> My gut tells me that we lost a good opportunity to chase down some

> virus. What do I do now? Do I try to chase it down? I would love

> to throw some Virastop at him, but the last few times I have tried to

> introduce it, he has complained of stomach aches. He is on Valtrex

> (has been for months) and a little bit of OLE. He is running a bit

> warmer than usual, but nothing too high (in the 99s). He pooped this

> morning and it almost looked normal.

Anne,

I think I'd do nothing, or maybe, because I know that feeling of

thinking " maybe if I just.... " I might consider bumping up the OLE,

depending on his history with it.

Thanks for writing that up. It does sound like you're really making

progress.

Nell

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>

> Yikes. After reading back through some other posts, it occured to me

> that maybe what we were seeing was die-off reaction. It is pretty

> clear we had a pretty bad bacterial infection. Does die off happen

> with bacteria as well as with yeast?

Anne,

Yes, it did here. And uva ursi worked well too. I was thinking after I

hit send to my other answer that Dana was just talking about Virastop

working on bacteria too, so maybe there's something going on there.

(not my intentional vagueness, lol)

Nell