Re: Rough Chelation Again

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What is your dosing schedule like? Are you doing 3 days on and 11 days off?

carolynw4 <carolynw4@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,

I've been chelating for 1 year and 3 months now using TDDMPS. I'm

dosing every four hours because that's what my doctor and I have

found works best for me. If I wait until eight hours to dose I get

a rash. When I started I could only handle a total of eight drops

per day using this dosage schedule. I'm not up to 40 drops each

day.

Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time. I'm

so tired. I'm getting atleast 7-8 hours each night which is

normally enough for me. I have huge bags under my eyes from the

minute I wake up in the morning. I'm on many of the suggested

vitamins to use during chelation. There's many so I'm not going to

list them here unless someone wants to know.

I had a fecal metals test done about a month ago and I had off the

charts Cadmium. My result was 1.29 and the reference range is

below .50

Antimony, Bismuth, Copper, Nickel, Thallium, Tungsten were all in

the yellow and over the reference range. All the other heavy metals

except for mercury were pretty close to being in the yellow.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Should I cut back on the

amount of DMPS or should I just try to ride it out?

Carolyn

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I'm doing 3 days on and 4 days off.

>

> What is your dosing schedule like? Are you doing 3 days on and 11

days off?

[Guest guest]

Are you taking something for yeast? Did you have a hair test and apply counting

rules? You didn't get a flu shot, did you? I presume you have NO mercury

amalgam dental fillings...

S S

carolynw4%40 " >carolynw4 (DOT) <wbr>com</a>> wrote: Hi

Everyone,<br>

<br>

I've been chelating for 1 year and 3 months now using TDDMPS. I'm <br>

dosing every four hours because that's what my doctor and I have <br>

found works best for me. If I wait until eight hours to dose I get <br>

a rash. When I started I could only handle a total of eight drops <br>

per day using this dosage schedule. I'm not up to 40 drops each <br>

day. <br>

<br>

Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time. I'm <br>

so tired. I'm getting atleast 7-8 hours each night which is <br>

normally enough for me. I have huge bags under my eyes from the <br>

minute I wake up in the morning. I'm on many of the suggested <br>

vitamins to use during chelation. There's many so I'm not going to <br>

list them here unless someone wants to know. <br>

<br>

I had a fecal metals test done about a month ago and I had off the <br>

charts Cadmium. My result was 1.29 and the reference range is <br>

below .50 <br>

<br>

Antimony, Bismuth, Copper, Nickel, Thallium, Tungsten were all in <br>

the yellow and over the reference range. All the other heavy metals <br>

except for mercury were pretty close to being in the yellow. <br>

<br>

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Should I cut back on the <br>

amount of DMPS or should I just try to ride it out? <br>

<br>

Carolyn <br>

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Maybe you should switch to the 3/11 schedule, it might be easier on your system.

It is worth a try.

carolynw4 <carolynw4@...> wrote: I'm doing 3 days on and 4 days

off.

>

> What is your dosing schedule like? Are you doing 3 days on and 11

days off?

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>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been chelating for 1 year and 3 months now using TDDMPS. I'm

> dosing every four hours because that's what my doctor and I have

> found works best for me. If I wait until eight hours to dose I get

> a rash. When I started I could only handle a total of eight drops

> per day using this dosage schedule. I'm not up to 40 drops each

> day.

>

An increase of 5x is quite a large increase of dose.

I am chelating with oral DMPS. When I increased the dose from 18 to

25 mg the fatigue was too much. When I dropped the dose back down I

was ok. After a very long time at 18 mg I was eventually able to

increase to 25 mg and stay there without the fatigue.

J

> Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time. I'm

> so tired. I'm getting atleast 7-8 hours each night which is

> normally enough for me. I have huge bags under my eyes from the

> minute I wake up in the morning. I'm on many of the suggested

> vitamins to use during chelation. There's many so I'm not going to

> list them here unless someone wants to know.

>

> I had a fecal metals test done about a month ago and I had off the

> charts Cadmium. My result was 1.29 and the reference range is

> below .50

>

> Antimony, Bismuth, Copper, Nickel, Thallium, Tungsten were all in

> the yellow and over the reference range. All the other heavy metals

> except for mercury were pretty close to being in the yellow.

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Should I cut back on the

> amount of DMPS or should I just try to ride it out?

>

> Carolyn

>

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Hi Carolyn

Are you using the supplements Andy recommends for cadmium chelation?

They are a bit different than just mercury - emphasis on keeping urine

pH high, a few extra supplements for energy problems, adrenal support,

etc. Cadmium isn't very nice to your adrenals or kidneys, or your

heart. This information is on pages 95-96 and 242-243 of the Hair Test

book.

(I'm assuming that a high urine Cd result means that you have

cadmium " issues " - this may or may not be the case. Cadmium is hard to

get rid of, so good for you!)

Hope this helps

Rene

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

>

> Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time. I'm

> so tired. > I had a fecal metals test done about a month ago and I

had off the

> charts Cadmium. My result was 1.29 and the reference range is

> below .50

> Carolyn

>

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I'm about to start my son on oral DMPS. He's 14 and about 117 pounds. The

doctor prescribed 50 mg every 8 hours for 3 days on and 11 off. Does this

seem too high? (I already have the capsules. Can I just give half of one

capsule if too high?)

Also, she wants to do a challenge test of 250 mg and then proceed with the

normal dose of 50 mg for the rest of the 3 days. (Does that seem dangerous?)

Carla

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> Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time. I'm

> so tired. I'm getting atleast 7-8 hours each night which is

> normally enough for me. I have huge bags under my eyes from the

> minute I wake up in the morning. I'm on many of the suggested

> vitamins to use during chelation. There's many so I'm not going to

> list them here unless someone wants to know.

Yeast overgrowth will make me tired.

Mineral deficiency will make me tired.

Certain supplements will make me REALLY sleepy, narcoleptic, so I have

to take them at night. And, the supplements which do this are

constantly changing, which can be frustrating and occasionally dangerous.

B vitamins are the worst for making me sleepy. I actually use them as

a sleeping aid/pill.

Dana

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>

> Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time. I'm

> so tired. I'm getting atleast 7-8 hours each night which is

> normally enough for me. I have huge bags under my eyes from the

> minute I wake up in the morning.

Have you had any thyroid or adrenal testing?

Nell

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The dr. go by weight, but when I tried the td-dmps and started very low

and tried working up to the target dose given by the dr., I found out

that my son was getting too much, and it gave him disburbing strange

symptoms, he complained of being hot a lot, and his bun and creatinine

numbers got all screwed up on his blood work so I gave up on td-dmps and

went back the the conservative dr. who only used glutathione, and/or

metal-free. I found out from the vendor of td-dmps that my son's

symptoms meant we had exceeded a threshold for my son and he was being

given too much. You have to be careful with following their

instructions as they are not always right. Some kids are more sensitive

than others.

>>> <carla925@...> 12/8/2006 10:29:25 AM >>>

I'm about to start my son on oral DMPS. He's 14 and about 117 pounds.

The

doctor prescribed 50 mg every 8 hours for 3 days on and 11 off. Does

this

seem too high? (I already have the capsules. Can I just give half of

one

capsule if too high?)

Also, she wants to do a challenge test of 250 mg and then proceed with

the

normal dose of 50 mg for the rest of the 3 days. (Does that seem

dangerous?)

Carla

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I am 160 pounds and I only take 12.5 mg of dmsa. And that was hard

to take at first. Double check the dosing per pound in the files for

dmps. No challege tests..they are not useful and can make him

sicker. Search the old posts on this one. Yes, it's dangerous!

>

> I'm about to start my son on oral DMPS. He's 14 and about 117

pounds. The

> doctor prescribed 50 mg every 8 hours for 3 days on and 11 off.

Does this

> seem too high? (I already have the capsules. Can I just give

half of one

> capsule if too high?)

>

> Also, she wants to do a challenge test of 250 mg and then proceed

with the

> normal dose of 50 mg for the rest of the 3 days. (Does that seem

dangerous?)

>

> Carla

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't do the challenge test. 250 mg is too high a dose and still runs the risk

of redistribution (pushing mercury into the brain) even following it with

regular doses.

S S

<p>I'm about to start my son on oral DMPS. He's 14 and about 117

pounds. The <br>

doctor prescribed 50 mg every 8 hours for 3 days on and 11 off. Does this <br>

seem too high? (I already have the capsules. Can I just give half of one <br>

capsule if too high?)<br>

<br>

Also, she wants to do a challenge test of 250 mg and then proceed with the <br>

normal dose of 50 mg for the rest of the 3 days. (Does that seem

dangerous?)<br>

<br>

Carla <br>

<br>

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I don't feel the 3/11 schedule would work for me because about the

day before I'm supposed to start chelating again, I start to feel

yucky.

For yeast, Im taking Candex by NOW and probiotics. I had a hair

test before starting chelation and applied the counting rules. Yes,

I did fit as mercury toxic. I didn't get a flu shot, and I have no

mercury amalgam dental fillings.

Yes, I'm using several of the vitamins Andy suggests. I'm using B

Vitamins, Vitamin D, C, & E, zinc, calcium, magnesium, and acetyl-l-

carnitine. Those are along with many other supplements.

The high Cd was in my fecal. TD DMPS removes metals mostly through

the fecal and not the urine.

I have yeast, but can't seem to get rid of it. I have had thyroid

and adrenal testing done. My thyroid is fine and so is my adrenal.

My DHEA was really high, but my doctor said that's from stress.

Carolyn

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How about switching to DMSA? Oral, not transdermal.

Pam

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been chelating for 1 year and 3 months now using TDDMPS. I'm

> dosing every four hours because that's what my doctor and I have

> found works best for me. If I wait until eight hours to dose I get

> a rash. When I started I could only handle a total of eight drops

> per day using this dosage schedule. I'm not up to 40 drops each

> day.

>

> Things were going really well, but I've hit another rough time.

I'm

> so tired. I'm getting atleast 7-8 hours each night which is

> normally enough for me. I have huge bags under my eyes from the

> minute I wake up in the morning. I'm on many of the suggested

> vitamins to use during chelation. There's many so I'm not going to

> list them here unless someone wants to know.

>

> I had a fecal metals test done about a month ago and I had off the

> charts Cadmium. My result was 1.29 and the reference range is

> below .50

>

> Antimony, Bismuth, Copper, Nickel, Thallium, Tungsten were all in

> the yellow and over the reference range. All the other heavy

metals

> except for mercury were pretty close to being in the yellow.

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Should I cut back on the

> amount of DMPS or should I just try to ride it out?

>

> Carolyn

>

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> I have had thyroid

> and adrenal testing done. My thyroid is fine and so is my adrenal.

> My DHEA was really high, but my doctor said that's from stress.

If you haven't already, you could check your lab results with the

women at naturalthyroidhormones group. Unfortunately most doctors

don't know how to read those labs correctly. I went through an

internist and an endocrinologist who said my thyroid was fine, and it

took a long long time to get at what I really needed. And when you're

feeling that wall of fatigue, getting stuff sorted out and making

appointments, etc is so hard.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Challenges are always dangerous. We don't do them, period.

Barb

Re: [ ] Re: Rough Chelation Again

I'm about to start my son on oral DMPS. He's 14 and about 117 pounds. The

doctor prescribed 50 mg every 8 hours for 3 days on and 11 off. Does this

seem too high? (I already have the capsules. Can I just give half of one

capsule if too high?)

Also, she wants to do a challenge test of 250 mg and then proceed with the

normal dose of 50 mg for the rest of the 3 days. (Does that seem dangerous?)

Carla