Re: First Round DMSA Kidney Pain Kelle

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Hi to all who replied...

what a scary few hours I've had. After I wrote about the kidney pain I

got nauseas and shakey so I searched the archives of another group and

found a note about acid urine and the ability of cadmium to be dumped

in the kidneys with acid urine. I tested and my urine was acidic, so I

took some bicarb while having a bout of hysteria, during which I rang

my naturopath friend who said STOP the DMSA for now. The bicarb mustve

kicked in coz I calmed down and feel alright now, albeit a little sore

around my lower back and still having little rushes of teary sadness

and deranged thoughts.

It has confirmed that metals are a bit of a big issue for me,

something I wasn't convinced of coz my hair test showed them as being

low. Seeing as I have MCS, it's reasonable to assume I'm a poor

excreter of toxins and now I think my suspicion that metals have

caused havoc with my liver detox pathways has been confirmed without

doubt if a small dose of DMSA can cause such a stir.

I had the last of my amalgams removed two weeks ago.

The dosage was 5mg every four hours round the clock, I was planning

three days on, three days off but I'm going to chill out for a bit

longer before I start again.

I'll check out the flank pain coz I can't be sure if it was kidney

pain, coz it was my lower back. It's what used to hurt a lot the days

after I took drugs when I was a speed junky so I kinda assumed, but I

read that kidneys are a bit higher on your body. My ache is definitely

lower back.

I started on the Milk thistle two weeks ago, had pretty extreme

fogginess/forgetfulness on 1mL/day (2:1, I think, mix tincture) which

I was mistakenly taking at night, as I found out today. So the plan

for now is to forget the DMSA until I can tolerate 1mL milk thistle

per day in split doses- another mistake I was making (after working up

from one drop three times a day) while doing saunas regularly.

Footsies had a similar reaction for me...everything just recirculates

in my body, can't get out, so I might do them once a week. THEN try

the DMSA again, but 5mg per day.

Such a sensmo I am and imaptient to get clean.

Oh well, at least now I know what's been my trouble all these years.

Thanks,

Kelle

> >

> > HI all, I have only had 2 doses of DMSA today as my first day of

chelation

> > and my kidneys are hurting. I am drinking plenty of water. Should

I knock

> > back the dose more or quit it?

> >

> > Kelle

> >

>

>

> Hi Kelle,

>

> On rounds 9 & 10 for me, I had some marked flank pain on my lower

right rear/side torso,

> and muscle spasms. I upped the magnesium (took more during the

round at the

> nighttime doses). Never had it again.

>

> If you search Onibasu and put in " flank pain " , you should pull up

some posts from the

> archives.

>

> Not saying it's NOT your kidney, but my understanding is the flank

pain is not uncommon.

>

> Your dose for your weight and timing?

>

> in Illinois

>

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kelle,

I don't have the energy to read back through this entire thread...

but did you have a baseline CBC/Metabolic Panel run prior to

beginning chelation? Some bloodwork to check your kidney and liver

function?

I would do that. Can Naturopaths function like MDs in your state?

Write prescriptions, draw blood and such?

Pam

>

> Hi to all who replied...

> what a scary few hours I've had. After I wrote about the kidney

pain I

> got nauseas and shakey so I searched the archives of another group

and

> found a note about acid urine and the ability of cadmium to be

dumped

> in the kidneys with acid urine. I tested and my urine was acidic,

so I

> took some bicarb while having a bout of hysteria, during which I

rang

> my naturopath friend who said STOP the DMSA for now. The bicarb

mustve

> kicked in coz I calmed down and feel alright now, albeit a little

sore

> around my lower back and still having little rushes of teary

sadness

> and deranged thoughts.

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Comments interspersed.

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<p>Hi to all who replied...<br>

what a scary few hours I've had. After I wrote about the kidney pain I<br>

got nauseas and shakey so I searched the archives of another group and<br>

found a note about acid urine and the ability of cadmium to be dumped<br>

in the kidneys with acid urine. I tested and my urine was acidic, so I<br>

took some bicarb while having a bout of hysteria, during which I rang<br>

my naturopath friend who said STOP the DMSA for now. The bicarb mustve<br>

kicked in coz I calmed down and feel alright now, albeit a little sore<br>

around my lower back and still having little rushes of teary sadness<br>

and deranged thoughts. <br>

It has confirmed that metals are a bit of a big issue for me,<br>

something I wasn't convinced of coz my hair test showed them as being<br>

low.

*Was it a DDI hair elements test? Did you apply the counting rules?

Seeing as I have MCS, it's reasonable to assume I'm a poor<br>

excreter of toxins and now I think my suspicion that metals have<br>

caused havoc with my liver detox pathways has been confirmed without<br>

doubt if a small dose of DMSA can cause such a stir.<br>

<br>

I had the last of my amalgams removed two weeks ago.<br>

<br>

The dosage was 5mg every four hours round the clock, I was planning<br>

three days on, three days off but I'm going to chill out for a bit<br>

longer before I start again.<br>

<br>

I'll check out the flank pain coz I can't be sure if it was kidney<br>

pain, coz it was my lower back. It's what used to hurt a lot the days<br>

after I took drugs when I was a speed junky so I kinda assumed, but I<br>

read that kidneys are a bit higher on your body. My ache is definitely<br>

lower back. <br>

<

*Kidneys are high, such that you would wonder if the pain could be lower lungs.

You could experiment with some foot reflexology to try to determine what areas

of your feet are tender and compare to a reflexology map to determine what

organs those areas correspond to.

br>

I started on the Milk thistle two weeks ago, had pretty extreme<br>

fogginess/forgetful<wbr>ness on 1mL/day (2:1, I think, mix tincture) which<br>

I was mistakenly taking at night, as I found out today. So the plan<br>

for now is to forget the DMSA until I can tolerate 1mL milk thistle<br>

per day in split doses- another mistake I was making (after working up<br>

from one drop three times a day) while doing saunas regularly.<br>

Footsies had a similar reaction for me...everything just recirculates<br>

in my body, can't get out, so I might do them once a week. THEN try<br>

the DMSA again, but 5mg per day. <br>

*How's your diet? What supps are you taking?

Such a sensmo I am and imaptient to get clean. <br>

Oh well, at least now I know what's been my trouble all these years.<br>

<br>

Thanks, <br>

Kelle<br>

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Kelle,

Have you tried a sauna for detox? Perhaps NCD might be milder for you.

Barb

[ ] Re: First Round DMSA Kidney Pain Kelle

Hi to all who replied...

what a scary few hours I've had. After I wrote about the kidney pain I

got nauseas and shakey so I searched the archives of another group and

found a note about acid urine and the ability of cadmium to be dumped

in the kidneys with acid urine. I tested and my urine was acidic, so I

took some bicarb while having a bout of hysteria, during which I rang

my naturopath friend who said STOP the DMSA for now. The bicarb mustve

kicked in coz I calmed down and feel alright now, albeit a little sore

around my lower back and still having little rushes of teary sadness

and deranged thoughts.

It has confirmed that metals are a bit of a big issue for me,

something I wasn't convinced of coz my hair test showed them as being

low. Seeing as I have MCS, it's reasonable to assume I'm a poor

excreter of toxins and now I think my suspicion that metals have

caused havoc with my liver detox pathways has been confirmed without

doubt if a small dose of DMSA can cause such a stir.

I had the last of my amalgams removed two weeks ago.

The dosage was 5mg every four hours round the clock, I was planning

three days on, three days off but I'm going to chill out for a bit

longer before I start again.

I'll check out the flank pain coz I can't be sure if it was kidney

pain, coz it was my lower back. It's what used to hurt a lot the days

after I took drugs when I was a speed junky so I kinda assumed, but I

read that kidneys are a bit higher on your body. My ache is definitely

lower back.

I started on the Milk thistle two weeks ago, had pretty extreme

fogginess/forgetfulness on 1mL/day (2:1, I think, mix tincture) which

I was mistakenly taking at night, as I found out today. So the plan

for now is to forget the DMSA until I can tolerate 1mL milk thistle

per day in split doses- another mistake I was making (after working up

from one drop three times a day) while doing saunas regularly.

Footsies had a similar reaction for me...everything just recirculates

in my body, can't get out, so I might do them once a week. THEN try

the DMSA again, but 5mg per day.

Such a sensmo I am and imaptient to get clean.

Oh well, at least now I know what's been my trouble all these years.

Thanks,

Kelle

> >

> > HI all, I have only had 2 doses of DMSA today as my first day of

chelation

> > and my kidneys are hurting. I am drinking plenty of water. Should

I knock

> > back the dose more or quit it?

> >

> > Kelle

> >

>

>

> Hi Kelle,

>

> On rounds 9 & 10 for me, I had some marked flank pain on my lower

right rear/side torso,

> and muscle spasms. I upped the magnesium (took more during the

round at the

> nighttime doses). Never had it again.

>

> If you search Onibasu and put in " flank pain " , you should pull up

some posts from the

> archives.

>

> Not saying it's NOT your kidney, but my understanding is the flank

pain is not uncommon.

>

> Your dose for your weight and timing?

>

> in Illinois

>