Re: Copper and Mercury toxicity.

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Supplementing zinc may help bring the copper down. You can also limit high

copper foods like nuts. You can start with DMSA while you're working on

lowering his copper, then retest and if copper is ok, add or switch to ALA. I

presume he has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings. It's also important to

determine if you have copper pipes or if he had lots of exposure to copper in

swimming pool chemicals.

S S

My son, who is 10 years old and weights 138 pounds, meets Andy's rules <br>

3 and 4. He also is copper toxic, 94 (ref. range 9.0 - 30). According <br>

to Andy's books I should not chelate with ALA because this could <br>

aggravate his copper toxicity, however if I chelate him with only DMSA <br>

it would not cross his blood brain barrier. It is my first time <br>

chelating, could anyone guide me please? <br>

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Give lots of molybdenum with each meal, and make sure you are giving

zinc. This will bring down the copper. Look in the onibasu

archives for andrewhallcutler and copper and you will get some good

information on dosing the molybdenum. I believe he recommended 1000

mcgs/day for my then 3.5 year old son.

Anne

>

> My son, who is 10 years old and weights 138 pounds, meets Andy's

rules <br>

> 3 and 4. He also is copper toxic, 94 (ref. range 9.0 - 30).

According <br>

> to Andy's books I should not chelate with ALA because this could

<br>

> aggravate his copper toxicity, however if I chelate him with only

DMSA <br>

> it would not cross his blood brain barrier. It is my first time

<br>

> chelating, could anyone guide me please? <br>

>

>

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Food Sources

Oysters and other shellfish, whole grains, beans, nuts, potatoes, and organ

meats (kidneys, liver) are good sources of copper. Dark leafy greens, dried

fruits such as prunes, cocoa, black pepper, and yeast are also sources of copper

in the diet.

(this list is from the Medline Plus website).

S S

<p>Also, make sure he is not getting current exposure to copper --

nuts<br>

and chocolate are sources of copper<br>

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> Hi everyone-<br>

> <br>

> My son, who is 10 years old and weights 138 pounds, meets Andy's rules <br>

> 3 and 4. He also is copper toxic, 94 (ref. range 9.0 - 30). According <br>

> to Andy's books I should not chelate with ALA because this could <br>

> aggravate his copper toxicity, however if I chelate him with only DMSA <br>

> it would not cross his blood brain barrier. It is my first time <br>

> chelating, could anyone guide me please?<br>

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My son is 10 years old, weights 150 lbs and is also copper toxic - too funny,

but sad. We have been supplementing extra zinc to lower copper - one form of

zinc that was suggested was monomethionine. We just did some blood work to see

if the copper is lower now because I am just dying to use ALA instead of

TD-DMSA. We have been chelating every other weekend for 11 months now. I think

it's time to use ALA. What about people who use ALA and don't do all the

blood/urine work-up. How do they know their copper is not high. Do they see

bad results from adding ALA?

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[ ] Re: Copper and Mercury toxicity.

Also, make sure he is not getting current exposure to

copper -- nuts

and chocolate are sources of copper

>

> Hi everyone-

>

> My son, who is 10 years old and weights 138 pounds, meets Andy's rules

> 3 and 4. He also is copper toxic, 94 (ref. range 9.0 - 30). According

> to Andy's books I should not chelate with ALA because this could

> aggravate his copper toxicity, however if I chelate him with only DMSA

> it would not cross his blood brain barrier. It is my first time

> chelating, could anyone guide me please?

>

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>>What about people who use ALA and don't do all the blood/urine

work-up. How do they know their copper is not high. Do they see bad

results from adding ALA?

I have never had my son tested for anything. He did not tolerate most

supplements before I started ALA, but when I started the ALA, he

seemed to do okay. Every 5 rounds or so, I tried adding certain

supplements. Zinc was one I was able to add earlier than most of the

others, and he seemed to improve when I added it.

So you can certainly try to add the ALA now, keep the zinc, and just

watch your child for symptoms that might indicate copper was

increasing too much.

Dana

[Guest guest]

And what would signs of copper toxicity be?

[ ] Re: Copper and Mercury toxicity.

>>What about people who use ALA and don't do all the blood/urine

work-up. How do they know their copper is not high. Do they see bad

results from adding ALA?

I have never had my son tested for anything. He did not tolerate most

supplements before I started ALA, but when I started the ALA, he

seemed to do okay. Every 5 rounds or so, I tried adding certain

supplements. Zinc was one I was able to add earlier than most of the

others, and he seemed to improve when I added it.

So you can certainly try to add the ALA now, keep the zinc, and just

watch your child for symptoms that might indicate copper was

increasing too much.

Dana

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> And what would signs of copper toxicity be?

For my son, hyper, inability to focus, teeth grinding, and a few other

things.

From my site, here are other things: Signs of toxicity: Irritation of

nose, mouth, and eyes, dizziness, headaches, vomiting, diarrhea,

stomach cramps. Liver and kidney damage and effects on the blood.

's disease, a genetic defect that results in accumulation of

copper in tissues, includes hepatic cirrhosis, brain damage and

demyelination, kidney damage, and hemolytic anemia. Patients may also

suffer from poor coordination, psychological impairment, tremors,

disturbed gait, rigidity, and eye opacities.

Dana