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Don't do challenge tests. They cause serious redistribution and the

doses are way high. EDTA is not good for mercury. DMPS is but not as

an IV and as a one time dose. Andy has said that kids on the

spectrum should not do IV chelation.

You can chelate him with dmsa/ala yourself or see if your doc is

willing to try oral dmsa, oral dmps etc. Maybe letting him know you

don't feel comfortable doing another one time IV dose. He may be

open to using Andy's protocol. IF not you can get him to prescribe

the dmsa..just dose it yourself. Or you can purchase it yourself.

What would be most effective is the dmsa/ala together. Did your

son's hair test indicate mercury according the Andy's counting

rules? (See files section)

You can purchase dmsa from www.vrp.com

It is $28.95 for 120 caps of 25mg each. Which you would be dividing

up so it last a long while. Dosing is 1/8 mg per pound given every

four hours. Every three if using ala with it.

Hair testing does not have to be done, but periodically just to keep

tabs on things like copper. Maybe say once or twice a year. We plan

to do once a year. Some here do every three months. Following the

recomended supplements for Andy's protocol are needed too.

>

> Hi,

>

> I really need some help here as I feel I am wasting precious

time.

> We started the DAN protocol in August. Our son is 4 years old.

In

> August the DAN dr. did the following:

>

> 1) put us on numerous supplements

> 2) did blood tests, stool analysis, performed 2 challenge tests

> (whcih I didn't know what that meant at the time)

> 3) nystatin

> 4) valtrex

> 5) LDN

>

> We then went back in October and he received an IV DMPS and IV

> EDTA. Our son's lead #'s went from 17 from the oral chelators, to

> 48 from the IV. The doctor said that the IV is much better at

> removing the metals. I am still learning here, but a one time

dose,

> is this redistrubuting the metals? I really hate to undermine

his

> knowledge because he is on our insurance and we really don't have

> the money to pay all expenses out of pocket.

>

> My main question is, should I get another IV? our son has been

very

> aggressive lately and bad visual stimming. His speech has

improved

> and hyperactivity has improved but he is soooo mean to his baby

> sister now.

>

> Also, since money is so tight for us, it seems that the ALA or

DMSA

> would be cheaper. If I choose to read Andy's protocol and follow

> it, how often do I need to get the hair tests? Would it be

> effective to do DMPS, EDTA and ala or DMSA together?

>

> Thanks!

> Jana

>

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Jana,

I know that IVs are very popular right now, but they certainly

wouldn't be my first choice for a four year old. I have read quite

a few very sad stories involving IVs and, for me, the risk is not

worth it. If your child pulled lead at 17 with oral chelators I

would think that oral chelators (AC protocol) would be an excellent

and safe choice for him.

Many people find, especially for kids with lead, that DMSA combined

with ALA is the best option. It is very inexpensive (bottles last

forever!). I do a hair test every 6 months, no more. They are

helpful, but not necessary. I also do blood tests every now and

then to monitor liver function.

I hope this helps,

Anita

>

> Hi,

>

> I really need some help here as I feel I am wasting precious

time.

> We started the DAN protocol in August. Our son is 4 years old.

In

> August the DAN dr. did the following:

>

> 1) put us on numerous supplements

> 2) did blood tests, stool analysis, performed 2 challenge tests

> (whcih I didn't know what that meant at the time)

> 3) nystatin

> 4) valtrex

> 5) LDN

>

> We then went back in October and he received an IV DMPS and IV

> EDTA. Our son's lead #'s went from 17 from the oral chelators, to

> 48 from the IV. The doctor said that the IV is much better at

> removing the metals. I am still learning here, but a one time

dose,

> is this redistrubuting the metals? I really hate to undermine

his

> knowledge because he is on our insurance and we really don't have

> the money to pay all expenses out of pocket.

>

> My main question is, should I get another IV? our son has been

very

> aggressive lately and bad visual stimming. His speech has

improved

> and hyperactivity has improved but he is soooo mean to his baby

> sister now.

>

> Also, since money is so tight for us, it seems that the ALA or

DMSA

> would be cheaper. If I choose to read Andy's protocol and follow

> it, how often do I need to get the hair tests? Would it be

> effective to do DMPS, EDTA and ala or DMSA together?

>

> Thanks!

> Jana

>

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> 4) valtrex

> 5) LDN

>

> We then went back in October and he received an IV DMPS and IV

> EDTA.

This combination is likely to cause SEVERE yeast overgrowth. If you

are only giving Nystatin to keep yeast under control, it is probably

not sufficient.

> My main question is, should I get another IV? our son has been very

> aggressive lately and bad visual stimming.

I think you answered your own question.

Try increasing your yeast protocol. GSE plus Candidase enzyme works

very well for my kids.

I used oral ALA for my kids.

Good luck.

Dana

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Thank you! I know, sometimes it takes writing it down and getting all the facts

out to see what's really happening!

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> 4) valtrex

> 5) LDN

>

> We then went back in October and he received an IV DMPS and IV

> EDTA.

This combination is likely to cause SEVERE yeast overgrowth. If you

are only giving Nystatin to keep yeast under control, it is probably

not sufficient.

> My main question is, should I get another IV? our son has been very

> aggressive lately and bad visual stimming.

I think you answered your own question.

Try increasing your yeast protocol. GSE plus Candidase enzyme works

very well for my kids.

I used oral ALA for my kids.

Good luck.

Dana

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