Re: DD Hair test results back- NT daughter off scale nickel... 5.5 lead..!

October 19, 2006

Does your son meet the counting rules? Check www.danasview.net for sources of

exposure.

S S

Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high

arsenic,

aluminium you name it, its high except mercury which is weird as it

pours out in the urine under challenges. My daughter also has elevated

lead 2.2, but nickel was off the page, also high tin and silver in both

of them. I think I should chelate her as well. Where would we pick up

the nickel?

Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec whole house

water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle of an

organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests on the

list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

Sue

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October 19, 2006

Metal fillings and caps/braces are sources of nickel. Anything

stainless steel. And you should chelate her as well. Nickel is toxic

too. Tin and silver are also components of metal fillings, and

solder used on copper pipes in houses prior to 1982.

> Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead,

also high arsenic,

> aluminium you name it, its high except mercury which is weird as

it

> pours out in the urine under challenges. My daughter also has

elevated

> lead 2.2, but nickel was off the page, also high tin and silver in

both

> of them. I think I should chelate her as well. Where would we pick

up

> the nickel?

>

> Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec whole

house

> water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle of an

> organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests on the

> list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

>

> Sue

>

October 20, 2006

" sue_lwsn " <sue@...> wrote:

> Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high arsenic,

> aluminium you name it

If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

Sue,

In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

" Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam illness

victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them. However,

exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of these may

help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary toxin. "

So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually isn't the

problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> its high except mercury which is weird as it

> pours out in the urine under challenges.

On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

" Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair MERCURY

levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that amalgam is

the mercury source. "

Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that mercury

poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It actually

shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals (the reason

for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other minerals

transport).

I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

> My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off the page,

> also high tin and silver in both of them.

If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can examine that

for deranged mineral transport too.

.

>

> Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec whole house

> water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle of an

> organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests on the

> list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

>

> Sue

>

October 20, 2006

Thanks so much again ! You are a great help to us. I'll email

the test to you now and would you mind putting it with the others

please?

Much obliged.

Sue

> > Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high

arsenic,

> > aluminium you name it

>

> If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

> http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

>

> Sue,

> In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam illness

> victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them. However,

> exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of these

may

> help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary

toxin. "

>

> So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually isn't the

> problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

>

> > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > pours out in the urine under challenges.

>

> On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair MERCURY

> levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that

amalgam is

> the mercury source. "

>

> Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that mercury

> poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It actually

> shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals (the

reason

> for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other minerals

> transport).

>

> I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

>

> > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off the

page,

> > also high tin and silver in both of them.

>

> If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can examine that

> for deranged mineral transport too.

>

> .

>

> >

> > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec whole

house

> > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle of

an

> > organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests on

the

> > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> >

> > Sue

> >

>

October 20, 2006

How would this play out in children with no amalgams? Exposure from

the womb of the mother?

Jeni Lynn

> > In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> > " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam illness

> > victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them.

However,

> > exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of

these

> may

> > help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary

> toxin. "

> >

> > So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually isn't the

> > problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> >

> > > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > > pours out in the urine under challenges.

> >

> > On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> > " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair MERCURY

> > levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that

> amalgam is

> > the mercury source. "

> >

> > Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that mercury

> > poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It

actually

> > shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals (the

> reason

> > for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other minerals

> > transport).

> >

> > I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

> >

> > > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off the

> page,

> > > also high tin and silver in both of them.

> >

> > If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can examine

that

> > for deranged mineral transport too.

> >

> > .

> >

> > >

> > > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec whole

> house

> > > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle of

> an

> > > organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests on

> the

> > > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> > >

> > > Sue

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2006

Ok Sue I've uploaded andra's hair test here:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

You are right, the Nickel is off the scale. At least she has normal

mineral transport, so no major mercury problems.

Comments from others are most welcome.

.

" sue_lwsn " <sue@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks so much again ! You are a great help to us. I'll email

> the test to you now and would you mind putting it with the others

> please?

>

> Much obliged.

>

> Sue

>

> > > Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high

> arsenic,

> > > aluminium you name it

> >

> > If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

> > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

> >

> > Sue,

> > In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> > " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam illness

> > victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them. However,

> > exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of these

> may

> > help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary

> toxin. "

> >

> > So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually isn't the

> > problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> >

> > > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > > pours out in the urine under challenges.

> >

> > On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> > " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair MERCURY

> > levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that

> amalgam is

> > the mercury source. "

> >

> > Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that mercury

> > poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It actually

> > shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals (the

> reason

> > for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other minerals

> > transport).

> >

> > I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

> >

> > > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off the

> page,

> > > also high tin and silver in both of them.

> >

> > If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can examine that

> > for deranged mineral transport too.

> >

> > .

> >

> > >

> > > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec whole

> house

> > > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle of

> an

> > > organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests on

> the

> > > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> > >

> > > Sue

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2006

Thanks . I have never had any amalgams and neither has

andra. The urine metal challenge has just come in and she has

seriously elevated lead at 28!! I know it can be hit and miss with

challenges but my son has been regularly challenge tested over the

past few years with lead never more than 13.

I will chelate her in the same way as we are doing the Cutler

protocol with because whatever metal really is creating a

problem none of it should be there in the first place so we'll be

doing the best thing for her, as we are doing for her brother.

Not much suprises me anymore, but this has. They said at parents

evening she has been lacking drive and focus in the classroom. I'm

not bloody suprised!!

Sue

> > > > Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high

> > arsenic,

> > > > aluminium you name it

> > >

> > > If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

> > > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> > > " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam

illness

> > > victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them.

However,

> > > exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of

these

> > may

> > > help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary

> > toxin. "

> > >

> > > So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually isn't

the

> > > problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> > >

> > > > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > > > pours out in the urine under challenges.

> > >

> > > On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> > > " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair MERCURY

> > > levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that

> > amalgam is

> > > the mercury source. "

> > >

> > > Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that mercury

> > > poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It

actually

> > > shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals (the

> > reason

> > > for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other minerals

> > > transport).

> > >

> > > I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

> > >

> > > > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off

the

> > page,

> > > > also high tin and silver in both of them.

> > >

> > > If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can examine

that

> > > for deranged mineral transport too.

> > >

> > > .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec

whole

> > house

> > > > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle

of

> > an

> > > > organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests

on

> > the

> > > > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> > > >

> > > > Sue

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2006

Sue,

Our daughter also had elevated nickel and chromium - neither was as

high as your child's and she also coulnted out toxic for mercury

toxicity at the same time. In trying to find the source I asked the

orthodontist just what was in those stainless steel appliances that

she'd worn for years-spacer bars, braces, retainer. They had 9+%

nickel and almost 20% chromium. I would bet the stainless steel caps

have similar content. These 2 were one of the first to come down with

chelation for our daughter. Just a thought....

> > > > > Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high

> > > arsenic,

> > > > > aluminium you name it

> > > >

> > > > If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

> > > > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

> > > >

> > > > Sue,

> > > > In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> > > > " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam

> illness

> > > > victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them.

> However,

> > > > exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of

> these

> > > may

> > > > help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary

> > > toxin. "

> > > >

> > > > So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually

isn't

> the

> > > > problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> > > >

> > > > > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > > > > pours out in the urine under challenges.

> > > >

> > > > On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> > > > " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair

MERCURY

> > > > levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that

> > > amalgam is

> > > > the mercury source. "

> > > >

> > > > Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that

mercury

> > > > poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It

> actually

> > > > shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals

(the

> > > reason

> > > > for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other

minerals

> > > > transport).

> > > >

> > > > I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

> > > >

> > > > > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off

> the

> > > page,

> > > > > also high tin and silver in both of them.

> > > >

> > > > If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can

examine

> that

> > > > for deranged mineral transport too.

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec

> whole

> > > house

> > > > > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the

middle

> of

> > > an

> > > > > organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests

> on

> > > the

> > > > > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sue

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2006

-Thanks ,

is your daughter free of the metal toxicity now or is it a work in

progress? I am glad you told me about the braces as my daughter's

teeth will need dental work to straighten them in the next few years

and I will need to take advice on this. One thing is for sure- no

Hg! I used to wear a brace as a child but has so far not had

anything done to her teeth.

Many thanks,

Sue

-- In , " mbrookh " <mbrookh@...> wrote:

>

> Sue,

> Our daughter also had elevated nickel and chromium - neither was

as

> high as your child's and she also coulnted out toxic for mercury

> toxicity at the same time. In trying to find the source I asked

the

> orthodontist just what was in those stainless steel appliances

that

> she'd worn for years-spacer bars, braces, retainer. They had 9+%

> nickel and almost 20% chromium. I would bet the stainless steel

caps

> have similar content. These 2 were one of the first to come down

with

> chelation for our daughter. Just a thought....

>

> > > > > > Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also

high

> > > > arsenic,

> > > > > > aluminium you name it

> > > > >

> > > > > If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

> > > > > http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg

> > > > >

> > > > > Sue,

> > > > > In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> > > > > " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam

> > illness

> > > > > victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them.

> > However,

> > > > > exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic

of

> > these

> > > > may

> > > > > help determine whether they are involved, or are the

primary

> > > > toxin. "

> > > > >

> > > > > So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually

> isn't

> > the

> > > > > problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> > > > >

> > > > > > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > > > > > pours out in the urine under challenges.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> > > > > " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair

> MERCURY

> > > > > levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm

that

> > > > amalgam is

> > > > > the mercury source. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that

> mercury

> > > > > poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It

> > actually

> > > > > shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals

> (the

> > > > reason

> > > > > for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other

> minerals

> > > > > transport).

> > > > >

> > > > > I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> > > > > http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder

> > > > >

> > > > > > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was

off

> > the

> > > > page,

> > > > > > also high tin and silver in both of them.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can

> examine

> > that

> > > > > for deranged mineral transport too.

> > > > >

> > > > > .

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high

spec

> > whole

> > > > house

> > > > > > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the

> middle

> > of

> > > > an

> > > > > > organic island full of nice people as someone else

suggests

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sue

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2006

Please don't do anymore challenge tests. They run the risk of redistribution

and are not particularly useful.

S S

Thanks . I have never had any amalgams and neither has

andra. The urine metal challenge has just come in and she has

seriously elevated lead at 28!! I know it can be hit and miss with

challenges but my son has been regularly challenge tested over the

past few years with lead never more than 13.

I will chelate her in the same way as we are doing the Cutler

protocol with because whatever metal really is creating a

problem none of it should be there in the first place so we'll be

doing the best thing for her, as we are doing for her brother.

Not much suprises me anymore, but this has. They said at parents

evening she has been lacking drive and focus in the classroom. I'm

not bloody suprised!!

Sue

> > > > Latest hair analysis show my son (ASD) 5.5 lead, also high

> > arsenic,

> > > > aluminium you name it

> > >

> > > If anyone wants to take a look at that test it is here:

> > > <a

href= " http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg " >http://i146.<\

wbr>photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg</a>

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > In Amalgam Illness (p29) Andy says:

> > > " Nickel is usually elevated in hair samples from amalgam

illness

> > > victims but does not appear to be a toxin in most of them.

However,

> > > exposure is ubiquitous. Some symptoms more characteristic of

these

> > may

> > > help determine whether they are involved, or are the primary

> > toxin. "

> > >

> > > So what Andy is saying is that the Nickel itself usually isn't

the

> > > problem - its often just a marker for mercury poisoning.

> > >

> > > > its high except mercury which is weird as it

> > > > pours out in the urine under challenges.

> > >

> > > On the subject of mercury Andy says (p178):

> > > " Mercury intoxication is possible even at very low hair MERCURY

> > > levels. Reasonably high silver, tin and nickel confirm that

> > amalgam is

> > > the mercury source. "

> > >

> > > Basically the whole point of the counting rules is that mercury

> > > poisoning doesn't usually show up as high hair mercury. It

actually

> > > shows up as *low* mercury combined with deranged minerals (the

> > reason

> > > for this is because mercury inhibits its own and other minerals

> > > transport).

> > >

> > > I recommend that you get hold of the amalgam illness book:

> > > <a

href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/#howtoorder " >http://www.noamalgam.com/#howto\

order</a>

> > >

> > > > My daughter also has elevated lead 2.2, but nickel was off

the

> > page,

> > > > also high tin and silver in both of them.

> > >

> > > If you want to email me your daughters hair test I can examine

that

> > > for deranged mineral transport too.

> > >

> > > .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Also I'm looking for a company that does really high spec

whole

> > house

> > > > water filters or maybe we shall live in a cave in the middle

of

> > an

> > > > organic island full of nice people as someone else suggests

on

> > the

> > > > list,as I am depressed with modern toxicity too!

> > > >

> > > > Sue

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Sue,

She may not meet the counting rules, but mercury and lead do not belong in the

human body and any is too much.

S S

t

Ok Sue I've uploaded andra's hair test here:

<a

href= " http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r265/Chelation/.jpg " >http://i146.<w\

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You are right, the Nickel is off the scale. At least she has normal

mineral transport, so no major mercury problems.

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