metals excretion with ALA

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

We have been chelating for about 9 months following Andy's

protocal. We have used oral DMSA at 12.5 mg for about 15 rounds and

we just added ALA about 4 rounds ago. We are using a DAN! and he

does the urine toxic metal test every 4th round. With each test

done on DMSA alone, my son has always excreted mercury and lead.

Lead is always in the elevated range (yellow) and mercury has been

elevated and the last few tests has been within the range (< 5.00

usually around a 3.0.) This last test we just did was the first

test since adding ALA. The ALA dose at the time of the test was

8.33 mg. This test continues to show lead elevated (its a 10 with a

reference range of <5.00. However, mercury is no longer detectable

in the urine. Since we added ALA, is the mercury no mainly coming

out in the stool? I know Andy doesn't put much weight on the tests,

but does anyone have any thoughts about this. Is the ALA that much

more powerful so the mercury is now in the stool? I'm just a little

suprised that it is no longer detectable in the urine. Any

thoughts are greatly appreciated? Interestingly, he has begun to

act a little more " autistic " (toe walking, spinning etc) since

adding the ALA in some areas and we are seeing some nice

improvements in other areas (receptive language, connectedness).

THANKS for any guidance!

[Guest guest]

Ala does cause the mercury to be excreted through the stool. Dmsa causes

mercury to be excreted via the urine. Could just be lucky timing the other three

rounds that you saw something or unlucky this testing.

Ala works on intercellular mercury, gets the mercury in the brain so not

surprised you are seeing a mix of bad and good symptoms. You should see the bad

symptoms subside a little when he is off the chelators.

Some people either reduce the Ala or try elevating the dmsa a little bit to

reduce side effects and keep the good stuff.

No, Andy would say the best judge of what is happening is to observe the child

over many rounds.

Make sure you are dosing the Ala every 3 hours, at a minimum and some kids need

ever 2-2.5 hours to reduce side effects so that is something you could try.

[ ] metals excretion with ALA

Hi All,

We have been chelating for about 9 months following Andy's

protocal. We have used oral DMSA at 12.5 mg for about 15 rounds and

we just added ALA about 4 rounds ago. We are using a DAN! and he

does the urine toxic metal test every 4th round. With each test

done on DMSA alone, my son has always excreted mercury and lead.

Lead is always in the elevated range (yellow) and mercury has been

elevated and the last few tests has been within the range (< 5.00

usually around a 3.0.) This last test we just did was the first

test since adding ALA. The ALA dose at the time of the test was

8.33 mg. This test continues to show lead elevated (its a 10 with a

reference range of <5.00. However, mercury is no longer detectable

in the urine. Since we added ALA, is the mercury no mainly coming

out in the stool? I know Andy doesn't put much weight on the tests,

but does anyone have any thoughts about this. Is the ALA that much

more powerful so the mercury is now in the stool? I'm just a little

suprised that it is no longer detectable in the urine. Any

thoughts are greatly appreciated? Interestingly, he has begun to

act a little more " autistic " (toe walking, spinning etc) since

adding the ALA in some areas and we are seeing some nice

improvements in other areas (receptive language, connectedness).

THANKS for any guidance!