Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Posted August 22, 2006 , As long as he rebounds quickly once the round is over, is fine. If you want to make him a little more comfortable you can reduce the dosage of Ala a little to maybe 5 mgs. Ala is powerful for some people. Then do 5 rounds before you increase it. Sounds like you are seeing great things! [ ] ALA questons Hi All, We just completed our 3rd round of chelation using oral ALA and DMSA. We completed about 15 rounds of DMSA only first. He weighs about 42 lbs and we dose him 12.5 DMSA and 8.33 ALA every 3 hours during the day and 4 at night. During the round, he dose fairly well. Actually, on day 1 and 2 he is fairly quiet, maybe a little spacey. On day 3 of the round, the stimming increases drastically. He doesn't usually seem really uncomfortable, just very stimmy and very demanding with what he wants. Is this typical or something I should be concerned with? Also, since adding ALA, he kind of holds his head a little. He will put his hand up by his ear (not over his ear) and hold it there a little. Almost seems like a little discomfort. He's never had sound sensitivity before, and he doesn't really seem like the sounds are bothering him, but just want to make sure I'm not doing any harm. Does this sound ok? Could he have a headache possibly?? This behavior usually happens both on round and off. Lastly, he seems to have a slight increase in some autistic behaviors since adding ALA. Specifically,he has never toe walked and now he does some. Also, he has never really spun around in circles and he was doing that yesterday a little. Should I be concerned about these new behaviors??? I just want to make sure I am doing no harm. Could all these behaviors be attributed to yeast as I do know that ALA has really stirred up yeast for him? We are seeing some small gains. His receptive language skills seem to have exploded. He is listening and following directions. Some more attempts at language (he is non-verbal). Also, one of his therapists commented that he seemed to be a different kid the last few weeks. Meaning, he wasn't as laid back and compliant as he had been. He was a little more fired up (which is very good for him), and somewhat difiant (again this is a good thing for him...he is NEVER difiant) His behavior is starting to be more typical for a 4 yr old. So, I guess I am just wanting to make sure that these small regressions are ok and that I'm not doing him any harm. Thanks so much for guidance! Quote
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Posted August 22, 2006 We saw a reduction of side effects by going to 2 hours during the day and 3 hours at night. --- shel4336 <shel4336@...> wrote: > Hi All, > > We just completed our 3rd round of chelation using > oral ALA and > DMSA. We completed about 15 rounds of DMSA only > first. He weighs > about 42 lbs and we dose him 12.5 DMSA and 8.33 ALA > every 3 hours > during the day and 4 at night. > > During the round, he dose fairly well. Actually, on > day 1 and 2 he > is fairly quiet, maybe a little spacey. On day 3 of > the round, the > stimming increases drastically. He doesn't usually > seem really > uncomfortable, just very stimmy and very demanding > with what he > wants. Is this typical or something I should be > concerned with? > Also, since adding ALA, he kind of holds his head a > little. He will > put his hand up by his ear (not over his ear) and > hold it there a > little. Almost seems like a little discomfort. > He's never had > sound sensitivity before, and he doesn't really seem > like the sounds > are bothering him, but just want to make sure I'm > not doing any > harm. Does this sound ok? Could he have a headache > possibly?? > This behavior usually happens both on round and off. > Lastly, he > seems to have a slight increase in some autistic > behaviors since > adding ALA. Specifically,he has never toe walked > and now he does > some. Also, he has never really spun around in > circles and he was > doing that yesterday a little. Should I be > concerned about these > new behaviors??? I just want to make sure I am > doing no harm. > Could all these behaviors be attributed to yeast as > I do know that > ALA has really stirred up yeast for him? > > We are seeing some small gains. His receptive > language skills seem > to have exploded. He is listening and following > directions. Some > more attempts at language (he is non-verbal). Also, > one of his > therapists commented that he seemed to be a > different kid the last > few weeks. Meaning, he wasn't as laid back and > compliant as he had > been. He was a little more fired up (which is very > good for him), > and somewhat difiant (again this is a good thing for > him...he is > NEVER difiant) His behavior is starting to be more > typical for a 4 > yr old. > > So, I guess I am just wanting to make sure that > these small > regressions are ok and that I'm not doing him any > harm. Thanks so > much for guidance! > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Posted August 22, 2006 >>Specifically,he has never toe walked and now he does > some. Also, he has never really spun around in circles and he was > doing that yesterday a little. Should I be concerned about these > new behaviors??? Both of these behaviors, especially spinning in circles, for my #2 son meant yeast overgrowth. > Could all these behaviors be attributed to yeast as I do know that > ALA has really stirred up yeast for him? Yes Dana Quote
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Posted August 22, 2006 , I get headaches if I don't take ALA at least every 3.5 hours. I've tried stretching it to every 4 hours at night but I will inevitably wind up with a nagging headache (not severe). I am not a person who gets headaches outside of chelation, so I think this is directly related to the ALA dosing. So, you might try to go to every 3 hours at night and see what happens. It will only take one round to figure it out. There is also the possibility of yeast overgrowth. Are you using anything as a preventative measure? I agree that the new defiance and assertiveness is a good thing; as long as it remains within reason. We see the same thing here. Pam > > Hi All, > > We just completed our 3rd round of chelation using oral ALA and > DMSA. We completed about 15 rounds of DMSA only first. He weighs > about 42 lbs and we dose him 12.5 DMSA and 8.33 ALA every 3 hours > during the day and 4 at night. > > During the round, he dose fairly well. Actually, on day 1 and 2 he > is fairly quiet, maybe a little spacey. On day 3 of the round, the > stimming increases drastically. He doesn't usually seem really > uncomfortable, just very stimmy and very demanding with what he > wants. Is this typical or something I should be concerned with? > Also, since adding ALA, he kind of holds his head a little. He will > put his hand up by his ear (not over his ear) and hold it there a > little. Almost seems like a little discomfort. He's never had > sound sensitivity before, and he doesn't really seem like the sounds > are bothering him, but just want to make sure I'm not doing any > harm. Does this sound ok? Could he have a headache possibly?? > This behavior usually happens both on round and off. Lastly, he > seems to have a slight increase in some autistic behaviors since > adding ALA. Specifically,he has never toe walked and now he does > some. Also, he has never really spun around in circles and he was > doing that yesterday a little. Should I be concerned about these > new behaviors??? I just want to make sure I am doing no harm. > Could all these behaviors be attributed to yeast as I do know that > ALA has really stirred up yeast for him? > > We are seeing some small gains. His receptive language skills seem > to have exploded. He is listening and following directions. Some > more attempts at language (he is non-verbal). Also, one of his > therapists commented that he seemed to be a different kid the last > few weeks. Meaning, he wasn't as laid back and compliant as he had > been. He was a little more fired up (which is very good for him), > and somewhat difiant (again this is a good thing for him...he is > NEVER difiant) His behavior is starting to be more typical for a 4 > yr old. > > So, I guess I am just wanting to make sure that these small > regressions are ok and that I'm not doing him any harm. Thanks so > much for guidance! > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Posted August 22, 2006 Yup. Stimminess can be yeast or just plain zoning out so as to not deal with the discomforts of detoxing. EXPECT symptoms of mercury poisoning to worsen (some, but not a lot) during chelation. Also, expect your child to be tired the next day. We do GSE throughout the chelation cycle and the day after. Barb (a veteran of 100+ rounds with my adult son.) [ ] ALA questons Hi All, We just completed our 3rd round of chelation using oral ALA and DMSA. We completed about 15 rounds of DMSA only first. He weighs about 42 lbs and we dose him 12.5 DMSA and 8.33 ALA every 3 hours during the day and 4 at night. During the round, he dose fairly well. Actually, on day 1 and 2 he is fairly quiet, maybe a little spacey. On day 3 of the round, the stimming increases drastically. He doesn't usually seem really uncomfortable, just very stimmy and very demanding with what he wants. Is this typical or something I should be concerned with? Also, since adding ALA, he kind of holds his head a little. He will put his hand up by his ear (not over his ear) and hold it there a little. Almost seems like a little discomfort. He's never had sound sensitivity before, and he doesn't really seem like the sounds are bothering him, but just want to make sure I'm not doing any harm. Does this sound ok? Could he have a headache possibly?? This behavior usually happens both on round and off. Lastly, he seems to have a slight increase in some autistic behaviors since adding ALA. Specifically,he has never toe walked and now he does some. Also, he has never really spun around in circles and he was doing that yesterday a little. Should I be concerned about these new behaviors??? I just want to make sure I am doing no harm. Could all these behaviors be attributed to yeast as I do know that ALA has really stirred up yeast for him? We are seeing some small gains. His receptive language skills seem to have exploded. He is listening and following directions. Some more attempts at language (he is non-verbal). Also, one of his therapists commented that he seemed to be a different kid the last few weeks. Meaning, he wasn't as laid back and compliant as he had been. He was a little more fired up (which is very good for him), and somewhat difiant (again this is a good thing for him...he is NEVER difiant) His behavior is starting to be more typical for a 4 yr old. So, I guess I am just wanting to make sure that these small regressions are ok and that I'm not doing him any harm. Thanks so much for guidance! Quote
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Posted August 22, 2006 Hi, we just finished our first round of oral dmsa and ala and he is doing lots of the same things. He finished yestarday and he is just so bossy still! And he seems to get very upset if things don't go his way, and just little things too. And today w/his speech therapist he was just out of it kinda. He was repeating things back when he hadn't been before... So, I'm not sure what to do about it either. I am going to do the high vit. A for the measles virus but I don't know if now is a good time or not. And is it okay to do that while giving him diflucan for yeast? > > Yup. Stimminess can be yeast or just plain zoning out so as to not deal with the discomforts of detoxing. EXPECT symptoms of mercury poisoning to worsen (some, but not a lot) during chelation. Also, expect your child to be tired the next day. We do GSE throughout the chelation cycle and the day after. > > Barb > (a veteran of 100+ rounds with my adult son.) > [ ] ALA questons > > > Hi All, > > We just completed our 3rd round of chelation using oral ALA and > DMSA. We completed about 15 rounds of DMSA only first. He weighs > about 42 lbs and we dose him 12.5 DMSA and 8.33 ALA every 3 hours > during the day and 4 at night. > > During the round, he dose fairly well. Actually, on day 1 and 2 he > is fairly quiet, maybe a little spacey. On day 3 of the round, the > stimming increases drastically. He doesn't usually seem really > uncomfortable, just very stimmy and very demanding with what he > wants. Is this typical or something I should be concerned with? > Also, since adding ALA, he kind of holds his head a little. He will > put his hand up by his ear (not over his ear) and hold it there a > little. Almost seems like a little discomfort. He's never had > sound sensitivity before, and he doesn't really seem like the sounds > are bothering him, but just want to make sure I'm not doing any > harm. Does this sound ok? Could he have a headache possibly?? > This behavior usually happens both on round and off. Lastly, he > seems to have a slight increase in some autistic behaviors since > adding ALA. Specifically,he has never toe walked and now he does > some. Also, he has never really spun around in circles and he was > doing that yesterday a little. Should I be concerned about these > new behaviors??? I just want to make sure I am doing no harm. > Could all these behaviors be attributed to yeast as I do know that > ALA has really stirred up yeast for him? > > We are seeing some small gains. His receptive language skills seem > to have exploded. He is listening and following directions. Some > more attempts at language (he is non-verbal). Also, one of his > therapists commented that he seemed to be a different kid the last > few weeks. Meaning, he wasn't as laid back and compliant as he had > been. He was a little more fired up (which is very good for him), > and somewhat difiant (again this is a good thing for him...he is > NEVER difiant) His behavior is starting to be more typical for a 4 > yr old. > > So, I guess I am just wanting to make sure that these small > regressions are ok and that I'm not doing him any harm. Thanks so > much for guidance! > > > > > > > > Quote
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