Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Posted August 26, 2006 Natasa, How old is your son and what amounts were you giving? Also, how quickly did you observe improvements? Thanks, Quote
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Posted August 26, 2006 I am forwarding something I posted on ldn board re brain inflammation: Dear .... I posted a while ago that our son had been on ldn since February with good results, in June we added some herbal supplements (after some extensive research of literature and studies!) and saw FANTASTIC improvements in all areas very soon. The first sup we started was Inflammation Control by Vitamin Research Products- it has two chinese herbs in it, both with powerful antiinflammatory action. The next one was SCUTELLARIA B. (also called Chinese Skullcap, we got the one by Solgar vitamins) also chinese, also has shown protective action against neuroinflammation amongst its many other beneficial effects. Lastly we added LICORICE as well as BACOPA (by Thorne) - traditional ayurvedic herb, again with some pretty amazing neuroprotective action. I am copying here some of the abstracts I have collected on some of these herbal properties. I guess what I am trying to say is that there are probably alternatives or things that can be give alongside ibuprofen etc. As I said our son has been doing extremely well on these herbs lately, we have seen explosion in language, socialisation, his pretend play is fantastic, his willingness to learn ... I could go on and on but in a bit of a rush, but in short the herbs ARE working in his case... (we have also lowered LDN lately, with no bad side effects, and have added nasal mb12 recently). I hope this helps someone, Best, Natasa p.s. have loads more papers on these if anyone is interested email me on neno @ dalmaholidays. co. uk (no spaces) FASEB J. 2003 Oct;17(13):1943-4. Epub 2003 Aug 1. Flavonoid wogonin from medicinal herb is neuroprotective by inhibiting inflammatory activation of microglia. Lee H, Kim YO, Kim H, Kim SY, Noh HS, Kang SS, Cho GJ, Choi WS, Suk K. Department of Anatomy and Neurobiology, Research Institute of Natural Science, Gyeongsang National University College of Medicine, 92 Chilam-dong, Jinju, Kyungnam 660-751, Korea. Wogonin (5,7-dihydroxy-8-methoxyflavone), a flavonoid originated from the root of a medicinal herb Scutellaria baicalensis Georgi, has been previously shown to have anti-inflammatory activities in various cell types including macrophages. In this work, we have found that wogonin is a potent neuroprotector from natural source. Wogonin inhibited inflammatory activation of cultured brain microglia by diminishing lipopolysaccharide-induced tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha), interleukin-1beta, and nitric oxide (NO) production. Wogonin inhibited NO production by suppressing inducible NO synthase (iNOS) induction and NF-kappaB activation in microglia. Inhibition of inflammatory activation of microglia by wogonin led to the reduction in microglial cytotoxicity toward cocultured PC12 cells, supporting a neuroprotective role for wogonin in vitro. The neuroprotective effect of wogonin was further demonstrated in vivo using two experimental brain injury models; transient global ischemia by four-vessel occlusion and excitotoxic injury by systemic kainate injection. In both animal models, wogonin conferred neuroprotection by attenuating the death of hippocampal neurons, and the neuroprotective effect was associated with inhibition of the inflammatory activation of microglia. Hippocampal induction of inflammatory mediators such as iNOS and TNF-alpha was reduced by wogonin in the global ischemia model, and microglial activation was markedly down-regulated by wogonin in the kainate injection model as judged by microglia-specific isolectin B4 staining. Taken together, our results indicate that wogonin exerts its neuroprotective effect by inhibiting microglial activation, which is a critical component of pathogenic inflammatory responses in neurodegenerative diseases. The current study emphasizes the importance of medicinal herbs and their constituents as an invaluable source for the development of novel neuroprotective drugs. PMID: 12897065 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] baicalin =flavoniod from Scutellaria B herb 3: Hunan Yi Ke Da Xue Xue Bao. 2000 Dec 28;25(6):519-21. [Effect of baicalin and dexamethasone on cytokines in brain tissue of infectious brain edema] [Article in Chinese] Yu Y, Yang YJ, Tao YG. Department of Pediatrics, Xiangya Hospital, Hunan Medical University, Changsha 410008. OBJECTIVE: To explore the effect of baicalin(BC) and dexamethasone(DXM) on interleukin-1 beta (IL-1 beta) and tumor necrosis factor alpha(TNF-alpha) in brain tissues of infectious brain edema. METHODS: The infectious brain edema model induced by pertussis bacilli(PB) was used. Brain water content(WC), content of Na+ and the levels of IL-1 beta, TNF-alpha were determined, and the morphological changes were observed under the light microscope. RESULTS: The results showed that the levels of WC, Na+, IL-1 beta and TNF-alpha in group PB were higher than those in group of normal saline(NS) (P < 0.01). And they were lower in groups BC and DXM than those in group PB(P < 0.05). In groups BC and DXM, there were no significant difference in the contents of water, Na+, IL-1 beta and TNF-alpha(P > 0.05). The water contents were positive linar correlated with IL-1 beta or TNF-alpha(P > 0.05). The water contents were positive linear correlated with IL-1 beta or TNF-alpha contents(r = 0.9381, 0.8349, P < 0.01). The structure of brain tissues in group NS was normal. In group PB, there were severe edema in brain tissues. In groups BC and DXM, the edema of brain tissues was reduced. CONCLUSIONS: The results suggest that the protective effect of BC and DXM against infectious brain edema were similar, the mechanism may be associated with the reduction of TNF-alpha and IL-1 beta. PMID: 12516391 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 4: Hunan Yi Ke Da Xue Xue Bao. 2000 Apr 28;25(2):109-12. [Protective effects of baicalin, mannitol and dexamethasone on infective brain edema in rats] [Article in Chinese] Cao LZ, Yu Y, Yang YJ. Department of Pediatrics of Xiangya Hospital, Hunan Medical University, Changsha 410008. OBJECTIVE: To compare the therapeutic effects of baicalin, mannitol and dexamethasone on infective brain edema(IBE) in rats. METHODS: Forty normal Sprague-Dawley(SD) rats (200 +/- 30) g by weight were divided into 5 groups randomly: (1) normal saline control group(NS, n = 8); (2) infective brain edema group (BE, n = 8); (3) mannitol treatment group(MAN, n = 8); (4) dexamethasone treatment group(DXM, n = 8); and (5) baicalin treatment group(BC, n = 8). Pertussis bacilli(PB, contained bacilli in 10.8 x 10(9), 0.2 ml-1.kg-1) were injected into the left carotid arteries through the left common carotid arteries by puncture to obtain BE models. The contents of brain water, sodium ion, potassium ion and blue in brain tissues were observed too. RESULTS: The contents of brain water, sodium ion, and EB in BE group were higher than those in BE group(P < 0.01), they decreased in MAN, DXM, BC groups and were lower than those in BE group(P < 0.01). In MAN, DXM, BC groups, there were no significant difference in the contents of brain water and sodium ion(P > 0.05). The EB content in BC group was higher than that in MAN and DXM groups(P < 0.01). The content of potassium ion in BE group was higher than that in MAN and DXM groups, the content of potassium ion was similar to that in NS group, but lower than that in BC group. Light microscope inspection in MAN, DXM and BC groups showed lessened brain edema, slight increase of perivascular space, and occasional nerve cell pyknotic nucleus. We found on nerve cell vacuolar degeneration in DXM group. CONCLUSION: Baicalin, mannitol and dexamethasone all have similar protective effects on infective brain edema in rats. PMID: 12212190 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Planta Med. 2006 Jan;72(1):65-8. Luteolin inhibits LPS-stimulated inducible nitric oxide synthase expression in BV-2 microglial cells. Kim JS, Lee HJ, Lee MH, Kim J, Jin C, Ryu JH. College of Pharmacy, Sookmyung Women's University, Seoul, Korea. Overproduction of nitric oxide (NO) by inducible nitric oxide synthase (iNOS) acts as a neurotoxic effector in the central nervous system, resulting in neurodegenerative diseases. From the alcoholic extracts of Perilla frutescens, we have purified an inhibitor of NO production in lipopolysaccharide (LPS)-activated microglia by activity-guided purification. The active compound was identified as luteolin by spectral analysis. Luteolin inhibited the NO production in LPS-activated microglia in a dose-dependent manner (IC50=6.9 microM). Luteolin also suppressed the degradation of I-kappaB-alpha, the expression of protein and mRNA of iNOS in LPS-activated microglia as observed in Western blot analysis and RT-PCR experiments. Luteolin may have beneficial effects in the treatment of neuro-inflammatory diseases through the inhibition of iNOS expression. PMID: 16450299 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 11: Arerugi. 1999 Apr;48(4):443-50. [inhibition of antigen-specific T helper type 2 responses by Perilla frutescens extract] [Article in Japanese] Ishihara T, Okamoto I, Masaki N, Kohno K, Tanimoto T, Ikegami H, Kurimoto M. Fujisaki Institute, Hayashibara Biochemical Laboratories, Inc. Perilla frutescens leaf extract (PFE) is known as a natural medicine with anti-allergic activities, although its mechanism of action remains unclear. In this study, we examined the effect of PFE on antigen-specific antibody and on cytokine production. Mice were immunized three times (weekly) with sugi basic protein (SBP), a major allergen of Japanese cedar pollen, in alum adjuvant. PFE was injected intraperitoneally into mice on day 2 before and on the day of each immunization with SBP in alum adjuvant. Serum anti-SBP IgE and IgG 1 antibody levels were significantly suppressed in mice injected with PFE. Furthermore, the production of interleukin (IL)-4, IL-5 and IL-10 by SBP-stimulated splenocyses also decreased in PFE-injected mice in a dose-dependent manner. However, PFE had no effect on either the serum anti-SBP IgG 2 a antibody levels or on interferon (INF)-gamma production by splenocytes. When splenocytes were stimulated with concanavalin A, there was no difference in cytokine production between mice injected with PFE and control mice injected with vehicle. SBP-specific T cell line established in the presence of PFE from the lymph node cells of mice immunized with SBP showed reduced IL-4, IL-5 and IL-10 production compared with that established in the absence of PFE. In contrast, comparable levels of IFN-gamma production were observed between these two T cell lines. These data suggest that PFE down-regulates Th 2-type cytokine production and prevents the Th 1/Th 2 balance from polarizing toward Th 2-type immune responses. PMID: 10355148 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 3: J Ethnopharmacol. 2006 Mar 8;104(1-2):286-9. Epub 2005 Dec 15. Anti-inflammatory activity of Bacopa monniera in rodents. Channa S, Dar A, Anjum S, Yaqoob M, Atta-Ur-Rahman. Department of Pharmacology and Therapeutics, Frontier Medical College, Abbottabad, Pakistan. shabanachanna@... <../../../../Autism_LDN/post?postID=nRRz4y5Vp58dSd5T8sZdTiJITkc_O7eIcGi_\ HMcAOMzL4qIu2bxtBKzyosJhHNR7J7MfRgvAp100OUFKynpFvA> The ethanol extract of Bacopa monniera (Scrophulariaceae) exhibited marked anti-inflammatory activity against carrageenan-induced paw edema in mice and rats, an acute inflammatory model. To assess the possible mechanism of anti-inflammatory action against carrageenan, the ethanol extract was treated with chemical mediators (histamine, serotonin, bradykinin, prostaglandin E(2) and arachidonic acid)-induced edema in rats. The extract selectively inhibited prostaglandin E(2)-induced inflammation. Thus, it may be inferred that B. monniera possesses significant anti-inflammatory activity that may well be relevant for its effectiveness in the healing of various inflammatory conditions in traditional medicine. PMID: 16343831 [PubMed - in process] 8: Phytother Res. 2003 Sep;17(8):870-5. Free radical scavenging capacity and protective effect of Bacopa monniera L. on DNA damage. Russo A, Izzo AA, Borrelli F, Renis M, Vanella A. Department of Biochemistry, Medical Chemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Catania, V.le A. Doria 6, 95125, Catania, Italy. alrusso@... <../../../../Autism_LDN/post?postID=4KbCJ27dY0QL7uhl3aIzxM3HzOKK4dkKlEZA\ mz49bZjzfCtJMWOyTndddA2xfNq7-pNNcnbzZXE> Bacopa monniera L. (family Scrophulariaceae) (BM) is an Ayurvedic medicine, clinically used for memory enhancing, epilepsy, insomnia and as a mild sedative. In this work, the free radical scavenging capacity of a methanol extract of BM and the effect on DNA cleavage induced by H2O2 UV-photolysis was investigated. In addition, we examined whether this plant extract is capable of reducing the hydrogen peroxide-induced cytotoxicity and DNA damage in human non-immortalized fibroblasts. It showed a dose-dependent free radical scavenging capacity and a protective effect on DNA cleavage. These results were confirmed by a significant protective effect on H2O2-induced cytoxicity and DNA damage in human non-immortalized fibroblasts. The antioxidant capacity of BM may explain, at least in part, the reported antistress, immunomodulatory, cognition-facilitating, antiinflammatory and antiaging effects produced by it in experimental animals and in clinical situations and may justify further investigation of its other beneficial properties. Moreover, this experimental evidence suggests that because of its antioxidant activity, this Ayurvedic drug may be useful in the treatment of human pathologies in which free radical production plays a key role. Copyright 2003 Wiley & Sons, Ltd. PMID: 13680815 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] J Rheumatol. 1997 Mar;24(3):436-41. Related Articles, Links The effects of traditional antirheumatic herbal medicines on immune response cells. Chang DM, Chang WY, Kuo SY, Chang ML. Rheumatology/Immunology/Allergy, Tri-Service General Hospital, Taipei, Taiwan, ROC. OBJECTIVE: Clinically, some traditional Chinese herbal medicines have been thought to be effective in treating rheumatic diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematosus. To examine the mechanism by which such herbal remedies might be effective, we investigated the ability of Tripterygium wilfordii Hook-f (TWHf) and tetrandrine (TTD) to affect human immune responsiveness in vitro. METHODS: We measured the ability of these agents to affect cytokine secretion from monocytes or T cells, prostaglandin E2 (PGE2) secretion from monocytes, IgG production from B cells, and the phagocytosis of bacteria by neutrophils. RESULTS: These studies revealed that both TWHf and TTD significantly inhibited interleukin-1 (IL-1), tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha), IL-6, and IL-8 secretion from monocytes, IgG secretion from B cells, and phagocytosis of bacteria by neutrophils; however, only TWHf inhibited IL-2 and IL-4 production from lymphocytes, and PGE2 secretion from monocytes. CONCLUSION: TWHf and TTD exert a powerful suppressive effect on human immune responses. This action might account for their therapeutic effectiveness in rheumatic diseases, and might support broader and more rigorous clinical trials. PMID: 9058645 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Curr Drug Metab. 2004 Apr;5(2):181-92. Related Articles, Links Chinese herbs as immunomodulators and potential disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs in autoimmune disorders. Ho LJ, Lai JH. Division of Gerontology Research, National Health Research Institute,Taipei, Taiwan, ROC. haungben@... <../../../../Autism_LDN/post?postID=DH_k3dk01ogGPIGzATIeL5fqjuy4LvnaEJnD\ 5PuxC9bL2Btego0ylrjOJ-nwDgGInNSPkNy0RkY8yDLtw2ZWva2XnP1b> Autoimmune diseases are a group of illnesses with multiple organ involvement. The prototype of this group of disorders is rheumatoid arthritis (RA) that aside from systemic organ involvement mainly presents with progressive destruction of many joints. Both activation and defective apoptosis of immune effector cells like T and B lymphocytes and macrophages play critical roles in the pathogenesis of autoimmune disorders. Current therapy for autoimmune diseases recommends a combination of several disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs) that preserve different immunomodulatory mechanisms. Because of limited success in prevention of RA joint destruction for currently available DMARDs, the development of more effective and less toxic DMARDs has been one of the major goals for pharmaceutical companies. The introduction of leflunomide and anti-tumor necrosis factor alpha therapies to the market recently serves as examples. In this context, the experience from ancient Chinese medicine gives an alternative consideration looking for potential DMARDs. Two commonly prescribed Chinese antirheumatic herbs are Tripterygium wilfordii hook f (TWHf) and tetrandrine (Tet) that preserve both anti-inflammatory and immunosuppressive effects. Importantly, the TWHf- or Tet-mediated immunomodulatory mechanisms are evidently different from the known DMARDs. The synergistic effects have also been demonstrated between these two Chinese antirheumatic herbs and DMARDs like FK506, cyclosporin and possibly chloroquine. Another potential Chinese herb for this consideration is Ginkgo biloba. This review summarizes evidence-based in vivo and in vitro studies on Chinese herbs as immunomodulators and potential DMARDs. Publication Types: * Review PMID: 15078195 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Posted August 26, 2006 > The first sup we started was Inflammation Control by Vitamin Research > Products- it has two chinese herbs in it, both with powerful > antiinflammatory action. Natasa, Do you know if there are any contraindication to taking antiinflammatories, or something to watch for as a kind of limit that you've gone far enough with them? BACOPA (by Thorne) - traditional > ayurvedic > herb, again with some pretty amazing neuroprotective action. Does the ayurvedic herb need to be matched to an ayurvedic type, or can anyone take it? > As I said our son has been doing extremely well on these herbs lately, > we have seen explosion in language, socialisation, his pretend play is > fantastic, his willingness to learn ... Great! SOunds like good news all around. Thanks for your post. Nell Quote
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Posted August 27, 2006 Hi, our son is 2.10. he was a big responder to SCdiet and then ldn, but the really big improvements came after we started the herbs - Inflammation Control we saw massive changes within days, then we started Candex, Huston ZymePrime enzymes and then the other herbs I mentioned relative close to each other so it is hard to judge, I believe all of them working together did the trick. Probably with Bacopa we saw a new burst in language after a few days on it. We also started nasal mb12 somewhere towards the end, which I feel did lots of good too. we followed dosage instruction on the bottles, adult doses divided by 4 (he weighs about 37-38lb) Best, Natasa > > Natasa, > > How old is your son and what amounts were you giving? Also, how quickly did > you observe improvements? > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Posted August 27, 2006 > > > The first sup we started was Inflammation Control by Vitamin Research > > Products- it has two chinese herbs in it, both with powerful > > antiinflammatory action. > > Natasa, > > Do you know if there are any contraindication to taking > antiinflammatories, or something to watch for as a kind of limit that > you've gone far enough with them? IT MOST LIKELY DEPENDS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL HERB - WE TEND TO KEEP TO BOTTLE DOSAGE INSTRUCTIONS RE DOSING (ADULT DOSES DIVIDED BY 4 AS HE WEIGHS ABOUT 38LB). I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE HERBS IN INFLAMMATION CONTROL IS BEST NOT GIVEN TOGETHER WITH OTHER CALCIUM CHANNEL BLOCKERS (like Nifedipine etc, I believe the only instance some of our kids might be on any of that type of medication is if they are prescribed as antiepileptics). I THINK AS WITH ALL OTHER THINGS ONE NEEDS TO START SLOW AND LOW AND OBSERVE REACTIONS. ALSO BE CAREFUL ABOUT GIVING LARGER DOSES FOR PROLONGED PERIODS OF TIME I GUESS.... I NOW INDEND TO TRY AND ACTUALLY ROTATE THESE HERBS, SORT OF GIVE 2 OR 3 HERBS AT A TIME .. > BACOPA (by Thorne) - traditional > > ayurvedic > > herb, again with some pretty amazing neuroprotective action. > > Does the ayurvedic herb need to be matched to an ayurvedic type, or > can anyone take it? NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF FOR THIS ONE, BUT READING ABOUT IT AND HOW IT WAS USED TRADITIONALLY MY SON WOULD DEFINITELY FALL INTO THAT 'TYPE CATERGORY'... > > As I said our son has been doing extremely well on these herbs lately, > > we have seen explosion in language, socialisation, his pretend play is > > fantastic, his willingness to learn ... > > Great! SOunds like good news all around. Thanks for your post. these herbs just sound so amazing, on paper at least (and I mean proper study papers, not marketing literature), there is potentially so much they could be doing for many kids... maybe it has to do with what other things have been going on, how the child is doing etc - my son had been doing ok on diets and ldn, maybe we just started the herbs at the exact right time for him, but something definitely worth trying IMO. Natasa > Nell > Quote
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