Phonics

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In a message dated 11/3/03 8:10:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,

leslie-kerrigan@... writes:

> Anyone have any advice here, because I know that the classroom teacher

> thinks the only way to teach her to read is sight words (which are

> important too, but I think I'd like to try both ways at this point).

> I'm impressed with her great grasp of phonics...... she is only 5, and

> I'll bet there are typical kids in her kindergarten who don't know all

> the letter sounds yet.

>

was unable to blend the letters to create words until last year (in

5th grade) ... the problem is one of SEQUENCING. Until she had a firm sense of

left to right sequencing, we stuck with sight reading. Suddenly we had a

breakthru last year and phonics became feasible. In her case it was

developmental

- when that part of her brain developed she was ready to learn to read

phonetically

Meanwhile some tools you might want to look into (to develop left to right

phonics skills):

Language Master (ask the school if they have one)

to see what it looks like:

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Clifford Reading CD ( LOVES this program - spends several hours a day

on it)

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Orton-Gillingham

Sensational Strategies for Teaching Beginning Readers

(use of multi-sensory techniques to develop phonics & sequencing skills)

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_ Becky

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Hi,

I just want to put my 2¢ teaching kids to read thought here from a teacher's

prospective. The method that Karol describes sounds good. There is another

way to teach phonics also and I just want to say that there is no right way and

that all kids will learn differently and will need various reading

strategies- not any one in isolation.

OK- so here goes. Look at the word cat- and this is sorta the blending thing

that someone was mentioning the other day- people will read the word from the

beginning letters to the vowel- so in cat- kids will see the 'c' and then the

'at' as the other part of the word. So it would be like this c makes the

sound ca (in this case) and at is " at " - ca + at = cat.

Ok another example- look at the word 'shin'- so the beginning up to the vowel

is 'sh' and then everything after the vowel is 'in'. So the sh gets

'blended' together and then the 'in', so its like 'sh'+'in'= shin.

Hard to explain in an email- but the books that explain this method are

called " Month by Month Phonics " by Dottie Hall and Pat Cunningham and there are

one

per grade- one for K, 1st grade, 2nd grade and 3rd grade and then an upper

grade one. There are lots of games and activities also which help reinforce

these skills.

OK- hope this helps someone out there- try all and anything that will work

for your child!

~ Mom to 13 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 9 NY

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<< A program my son did wonderful with is called Ball Stick Bird. I

bought it myself and used it at home.(I had a hard time convincing my

school that sight reading isn't the only way for my son.) I tried

Hooked on Phonics first. But I wasn't getting good results with it.

The premis to this program is they sound the words out like this ....

C.. H R

CA. HA RO

CAT HAPP ROCK (my son quickly got the idea that ck was

one sound.)

HAPPY ROCKE

ROCKET

And not C..A ..T

For some reason this method worked wonders for my son,

who before this has some sight words but was not transfering ANYTHING

or alot of times not even starting at the beginning letter of words

and totally guessing.

This program starts out very basic and builds up to very interesting

reading.

Karol mom to

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In a message dated 11/9/2003 3:38:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

linman42@... writes:

> . So it would be like this c makes the

> sound ca (in this case) and at is " at " - ca + at = cat.

>

> Ok another example- look at the word 'shin'- so the beginning up to the

> vowel

> is 'sh' and then everything after the vowel is 'in'. So the sh gets

> 'blended' together and then the 'in', so its like 'sh'+'in'= shin.

>

>

Not to mix apples'n oranges, but I like this approach for Liam, because we're

using a similar approach to get him to speak. His apraxia makes it hard for

him to say multi-syllable words. There are some words he can site read (CAT,

STOP, BARNEY) so I'm trying to get him to sound out Ba-ar-ney & sto -op,

matching up sounds and letters with words he already knows. I figure if

traditional auditory memory won't help him form the words maybe the visual image

will.

Kathy, Liam's mom( 5)

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Kathy,

I definately dont think you are mixing apples and oranges. many kids with

hearing and or speech problems also have problems with learning how to read

because of the phonics component. So, to try any and all methods I think will

work well for each child.

BTW- Barney- multi syllable word! LOL LOL LOL

Call me if you want me to explain it better to you. also ask his teacher if

she has the kindergarten edition and could she share it with the speech

teacher.

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Awesome ...i think i'm gonna look those books up... thanks jen

From: [mailto: linman42@...]toyman@...,

@...: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:53:16 ESTSubject: Re:

Re: phonicsHi,I just want to put my 2¢ teaching kids to read thought

here from a teacher's prospective. The method that Karol describes sounds good.

There is another way to teach phonics also and I just want to say that there is

no right way and that all kids will learn differently and will need various

reading strategies- not any one in isolation.OK- so here goes. Look at the word

cat- and this is sorta the blending thing that someone was mentioning the other

day- people will read the word from the beginning letters to the vowel- so in

cat- kids will see the 'c' and then the 'at' as the other part of the word. So

it would be like this c makes the sound ca (in this case) and at is " at " - ca +

at = cat. Ok another example- look at the word 'shin'- so the beginning up to

the vowel is 'sh' and then everything after the vowel is 'in'. So the sh gets

'blended' together and then the 'in', so its like 'sh'+'in'= shin.Hard to

explain in an email- but the books that explain this method are called " Month by

Month Phonics " by Dottie Hall and Pat Cunningham and there are one per grade-

one for K, 1st grade, 2nd grade and 3rd grade and then an upper grade one.

There are lots of games and activities also which help reinforce these

skills.OK- hope this helps someone out there- try all and anything that will

work for your child! ~ Mom to 13 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 9

NY

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Hi

Yes phonics are still taught in todays schools. I'm a Second Grade teacher

and as part of my curriculum I have to teach phonics, including the dreaded

soft and hard sounding letters that everyone has been mentioning.

Take care

Vickie

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Beth,

Thanks for the explanations in your last two posts. I was fortunate enough

to learn phonics in kindergarten. I've always considered myself to be a good

speller and aside from my level of hearing (mild to moderate loss from age

3-14), I attribute that ability to learning phonics. It's a shame phonics

are no longer taught in today's schools -- or are they?

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Deafblind/Postlingual

BTE hearing aid user 20 years

Severe-profound hearing loss 10 years

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Beth,

Makes sense. What I was saying is, never mind where the various words

came from, and just teach Englush. LOL

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

" I think there should be something in science called the " reindeer effect. "

I don't know what it would be, but I think it'd be good to hear someone say,

" Gentlemen, what we have here is a terrifying example of the reindeer

effect. "

--Jack Handley

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

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Beth,

A friend who teaches ESL found a wonderful book for me just before my CI

surgery. This book was from Alta Books and the drawings showed the tongue

placements for different sounds like /d/. I was surprised this book was

available

to ESL but not to speech therapists.

A.

In a message dated 7/7/2005 3:32:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

beth_brittney@... writes:

I teach kids phonics pretty much on a daily basis. I've taught ESL (English

as a Second Language) in the past, and more than likely, will have students

who are ESL again in the future.

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How do you get you child to understand and be able to hear and

differentiate ending sounds in words. They are now combining beginning

sounds and ending sounds interchangably on worksheets at school and

making them very difficult for my son to comprehend since he can't yet

hear or understand ending sounds.

How do I explain this to the school or get the school to provide a

tutor or remedial reading specialist to help him?

I can't be the only one having this problem.

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You old is your child? Has he been diagnosed with a hearing loss? What about auditory processing disorder?

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How do you get you child to understand and be able to hear anddifferentiate ending sounds in words. They are now combining beginningsounds and ending sounds interchangably on worksheets at school andmaking them very difficult for my son to comprehend since he can't yethear or understand ending sounds. How do I explain this to the school or get the school to provide atutor or remedial reading specialist to help him?I can't be the only one having this problem.

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You old is your child? Has he been diagnosed with a hearing loss? What about auditory processing disorder?

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How do you get you child to understand and be able to hear anddifferentiate ending sounds in words. They are now combining beginningsounds and ending sounds interchangably on worksheets at school andmaking them very difficult for my son to comprehend since he can't yethear or understand ending sounds. How do I explain this to the school or get the school to provide atutor or remedial reading specialist to help him?I can't be the only one having this problem.

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He can pick out the beginning sounds somewhat reliable, but cannot

separate the ending sound from the rest of the word to hear the ending

sounds. I had a cap test scheduled for yesterday at 11am, but the

foreign physician abandoned the test very quickly saying my son must

reliably repeat the words. Apparently they must hardly give them any

time to respond. I complained and they have rescheduled the test for

next Wednesday with a different female American audiologist.

>>> " Tracey Demmon, Audiologist " <SHI-Tracey@...> 9/11/2006

12:12:01 PM >>>

You old is your child? Has he been diagnosed with a hearing loss?

What about auditory processing disorder?

[Norton AntiSpam] phonics

How do you get you child to understand and be able to hear and

differentiate ending sounds in words. They are now combining

beginning

sounds and ending sounds interchangably on worksheets at school and

making them very difficult for my son to comprehend since he can't

yet

hear or understand ending sounds.

How do I explain this to the school or get the school to provide a

tutor or remedial reading specialist to help him?

I can't be the only one having this problem.