Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one to help us when Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the full-time gifted program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive 1-on-1 aides, no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes would be smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a former special ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she would get the best possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point we were facing the need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent had ever won a case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 Billion and they have extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until your money runs out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our son for the following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the skills to be able to move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a freshman in high school and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the right decision for him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the fire legally, but finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a different route. Sue > > Well, the advocate called me back yesterday. (fast huh?) And I was happy > about that and she had be tell her the whole story about what is going on > with . Can you believe that she seems to have this thinking that we > shouldn't put back into TLC because it is more restrictive!!! UH, yeah, > I believe that is what he needs to be successful though. She said she is > going to try to set his schedule so that he can succeed, but in a > regular/resource room class. They have already tried that and it ISN'T > working. would rather be back in the TLC program, he has told everyone > that. So, why does his therapist agree with me? I am thinking now that I > maybe don't want her to come to an IEP meeting. I don't have to sign the > papers she is sending me and then she wouldn't be able to anyways. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 She did mention that she has been here for a year and has been to just about every school in the system here. So, when the papers come I am just going to include a note that says we don't require her assistance and send it back to her. Our other issue with the school where our son goes to is a personal one. A few years ago our kids got taken away cause we were using drugs. (We are clean now and have been for almost 2 years!) The woman who is the head of the TLC program at my son's school was working at the time at Department of Family Services and was our son's case worker. I think she has too much of a personal connection with our family. This is another reason why I want him transferred to the school he is supposed to be in, which isn't her school. (Wow, that was incredibly hard to write, I don't want to be judged or anything.) > Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one > to help us when > Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the > full-time gifted > program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive > 1-on-1 aides, > no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes > would be > smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a > former special > ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she > would get the best > possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point > we were facing the > need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent > had ever won a > case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 > Billion and they have > extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until your > money runs > out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our > son for the > following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the > skills to be able to > move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a > freshman in high school > and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the > right decision for > him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the > fire legally, but > finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a > different route. > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 You won't be judged by me. I applaud you for being clean!! I am a recovering alcoholic (14 years 19 Jan) I KNOW how hard it is...It is hard to write that because not everyone understands addiction and think you can just quit...or that you are a 'bad' person.. I'd want to get away from her too because she probably already has judged you in her mind. Re: ( ) Re: Advocate Part 2 (vent) > She did mention that she has been here for a year and has been to just > about > every school in the system here. So, when the papers come I am just going > to include a note that says we don't require her assistance and send it > back > to her. > > Our other issue with the school where our son goes to is a personal one. A > few years ago our kids got taken away cause we were using drugs. (We are > clean now and have been for almost 2 years!) The woman who is the head of > the TLC program at my son's school was working at the time at Department > of > Family Services and was our son's case worker. I think she has too much of > a > personal connection with our family. This is another reason why I want > him > transferred to the school he is supposed to be in, which isn't her school. > > (Wow, that was incredibly hard to write, I don't want to be judged or > anything.) > > > > >> Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one >> to help us when >> Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the >> full-time gifted >> program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive >> 1-on-1 aides, >> no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes >> would be >> smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a >> former special >> ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she >> would get the best >> possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point >> we were facing the >> need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent >> had ever won a >> case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 >> Billion and they have >> extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until >> your >> money runs >> out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our >> son for the >> following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the >> skills to be able to >> move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a >> freshman in high school >> and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the >> right decision for >> him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the >> fire legally, but >> finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a >> different route. >> >> Sue > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Judged? NO!!! No one on this earth has the power to judge you! You obviously have made some amazing changes in your life and care very much for your children, otherwise you wouldn't be seeking support and help for him! Graves <inspiringmind@...> wrote: She did mention that she has been here for a year and has been to just about every school in the system here. So, when the papers come I am just going to include a note that says we don't require her assistance and send it back to her. Our other issue with the school where our son goes to is a personal one. A few years ago our kids got taken away cause we were using drugs. (We are clean now and have been for almost 2 years!) The woman who is the head of the TLC program at my son's school was working at the time at Department of Family Services and was our son's case worker. I think she has too much of a personal connection with our family. This is another reason why I want him transferred to the school he is supposed to be in, which isn't her school. (Wow, that was incredibly hard to write, I don't want to be judged or anything.) > Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one > to help us when > Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the > full-time gifted > program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive > 1-on-1 aides, > no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes > would be > smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a > former special > ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she > would get the best > possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point > we were facing the > need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent > had ever won a > case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 > Billion and they have > extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until your > money runs > out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our > son for the > following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the > skills to be able to > move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a > freshman in high school > and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the > right decision for > him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the > fire legally, but > finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a > different route. > > Sue --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thanks Toni and !! Congrats Toni on having almost 14 years of sobriety!! That's fabulous. My next step is to stop smoking...I actually started Chantix this morning. > Judged? NO!!! No one on this earth has the power to judge you! You > obviously have made some >amazing changes in your life and care very much > for your children, otherwise you wouldn't be seeking >support and help for > him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thank you, !! I need to quit smoking too. What is chantix?? Toni Re: ( ) Re: Advocate Part 2 (vent) > Thanks Toni and !! > > Congrats Toni on having almost 14 years of sobriety!! That's fabulous. > My > next step is to stop smoking...I actually started Chantix this morning. > > > > >> Judged? NO!!! No one on this earth has the power to judge you! You >> obviously have made some >amazing changes in your life and care very much >> for your children, otherwise you wouldn't be seeking >support and help >> for >> him! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Kudo's to you. I think many people are judgemental, but this group is probably the most understanding and helpful of many groups. Congrats on the 2 years. Don't be embarrassed or worried, be proud! 1. you have been clean that long 2. you obviously take responsability where it is due. That just made me feel even more impressed with you, just so you know! Thanks for sharing that~! B > > She did mention that she has been here for a year and has been to just about > every school in the system here. So, when the papers come I am just going > to include a note that says we don't require her assistance and send it back > to her. > > Our other issue with the school where our son goes to is a personal one. A > few years ago our kids got taken away cause we were using drugs. (We are > clean now and have been for almost 2 years!) The woman who is the head of > the TLC program at my son's school was working at the time at Department of > Family Services and was our son's case worker. I think she has too much of a > personal connection with our family. This is another reason why I want him > transferred to the school he is supposed to be in, which isn't her school. > > (Wow, that was incredibly hard to write, I don't want to be judged or > anything.) > > > > > > Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one > > to help us when > > Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the > > full-time gifted > > program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive > > 1-on-1 aides, > > no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes > > would be > > smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a > > former special > > ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she > > would get the best > > possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point > > we were facing the > > need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent > > had ever won a > > case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 > > Billion and they have > > extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until your > > money runs > > out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our > > son for the > > following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the > > skills to be able to > > move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a > > freshman in high school > > and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the > > right decision for > > him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the > > fire legally, but > > finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a > > different route. > > > > Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 , have you tried contacting your local Parent Information Training Center? Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Good luck on the smoking business! I quit smoking many years ago now and it was tough. The first week was awful! I used the patch. But hang in there, each week gets a little easier. Then before you know it, you are doing it! Roxanna Re: ( ) Re: Advocate Part 2 (vent) Thanks Toni and !! Congrats Toni on having almost 14 years of sobriety!! That's fabulous. My next step is to stop smoking...I actually started Chantix this morning. > Judged? NO!!! No one on this earth has the power to judge you! You > obviously have made some >amazing changes in your life and care very much > for your children, otherwise you wouldn't be seeking >support and help for > him! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Won't be judged by me either! Also a recovering alcoholic (10 months now, had tried for 2 years). Some people judge because they think a person whould be able to quit for their kids. Those in recovery know that it's not that easy, or we would have! Congrats on your sobriety. Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote: You won't be judged by me. I applaud you for being clean!! I am a recovering alcoholic (14 years 19 Jan) I KNOW how hard it is...It is hard to write that because not everyone understands addiction and think you can just quit...or that you are a 'bad' person.. I'd want to get away from her too because she probably already has judged you in her mind. Re: ( ) Re: Advocate Part 2 (vent) > She did mention that she has been here for a year and has been to just > about > every school in the system here. So, when the papers come I am just going > to include a note that says we don't require her assistance and send it > back > to her. > > Our other issue with the school where our son goes to is a personal one. A > few years ago our kids got taken away cause we were using drugs. (We are > clean now and have been for almost 2 years!) The woman who is the head of > the TLC program at my son's school was working at the time at Department > of > Family Services and was our son's case worker. I think she has too much of > a > personal connection with our family. This is another reason why I want > him > transferred to the school he is supposed to be in, which isn't her school. > > (Wow, that was incredibly hard to write, I don't want to be judged or > anything.) > > > > >> Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one >> to help us when >> Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the >> full-time gifted >> program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive >> 1-on-1 aides, >> no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes >> would be >> smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a >> former special >> ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she >> would get the best >> possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point >> we were facing the >> need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent >> had ever won a >> case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 >> Billion and they have >> extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until >> your >> money runs >> out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our >> son for the >> following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the >> skills to be able to >> move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a >> freshman in high school >> and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the >> right decision for >> him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the >> fire legally, but >> finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a >> different route. >> >> Sue > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 , I'm so proud of you for getting things together. It must have been the hardest thing in the world to do! Big Congrats! Liz Houston Essenfeld <lessen@...> wrote: Won't be judged by me either! Also a recovering alcoholic (10 months now, had tried for 2 years). Some people judge because they think a person whould be able to quit for their kids. Those in recovery know that it's not that easy, or we would have! Congrats on your sobriety. Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote: You won't be judged by me. I applaud you for being clean!! I am a recovering alcoholic (14 years 19 Jan) I KNOW how hard it is...It is hard to write that because not everyone understands addiction and think you can just quit...or that you are a 'bad' person.. I'd want to get away from her too because she probably already has judged you in her mind. Re: ( ) Re: Advocate Part 2 (vent) > She did mention that she has been here for a year and has been to just > about > every school in the system here. So, when the papers come I am just going > to include a note that says we don't require her assistance and send it > back > to her. > > Our other issue with the school where our son goes to is a personal one. A > few years ago our kids got taken away cause we were using drugs. (We are > clean now and have been for almost 2 years!) The woman who is the head of > the TLC program at my son's school was working at the time at Department > of > Family Services and was our son's case worker. I think she has too much of > a > personal connection with our family. This is another reason why I want > him > transferred to the school he is supposed to be in, which isn't her school. > > (Wow, that was incredibly hard to write, I don't want to be judged or > anything.) > > > > >> Some advocates are too tied in with the school system IMO. We hired one >> to help us when >> Ian was in third grade. I wanted an aide for him so he could stay in the >> full-time gifted >> program. The school responded that *no* students in our district receive >> 1-on-1 aides, >> no exceptions, and that he belonged in the ED program where class sizes >> would be >> smaller, but a gifted curriculum would not be available. Our advocate--a >> former special >> ed. teacher in the district--caved in and started telling us that she >> would get the best >> possible placement for him within the school's strictures. At that point >> we were facing the >> need to pursue the problem in the courts, but were hearing that no parent >> had ever won a >> case against our district. (It's annual operating budget exceeds $2 >> Billion and they have >> extremely good lawyers on their side who just keep you in court until >> your >> money runs >> out.) We opted to thank our advocate for her advice--and home school our >> son for the >> following 2 1/2 years while *I* worked with him 1-on-1 to give him the >> skills to be able to >> move back into general ed. on a full-time basis. He's currently a >> freshman in high school >> and doing very well academically. He also says home schooling was the >> right decision for >> him. Personally, I would have loved to hold the district's feet to the >> fire legally, but >> finances and energy just weren't there for the fight, so we went a >> different route. >> >> Sue > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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