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In message <001a01beddfb$7a67b7e0$0da8fcd1@rjiredff>, Livermore

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>Hi,

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>Just wanted to know if anyone with Achondroplasia sees a chiropractor and if

>it has helped you?

I agree with Fred. I wouldn't go to a chiropractor either. I went to one

several years ago for pain and stopped going because of the treatment he was

planning on doing.

Being a person of short stature and having Achondroplasia. I know its

important to keep the weight down and to not over exert ourselves. Our bodies

are delicate and need to be handled that way.

If one is of short stature and is experiencing pain it would be wise to check

out a specialist such as an orthopedic doctor that specializes in treating

people of short stature. That is the avenue I would pursue.

Helen

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Hi ,

I have talked to several people who also have this shoulder pain and some

got better after having their amalgmas and/or root canaled teeth replaced

and/or removed...I am in that process right now and am hoping that the

neck/shoulder pain leave with the amalgams....

LucindaLInda

chiropractor

>Thanks Ira,

>

>I will consider that. Right now I am getting physical therapy for my

shoulder which has been bothering me for a long time but recently gotten

worse.

>

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>On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:34:23 iramfine wrote:

>>From: iramfine@...

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>>In a message dated 03/29/2000 8:34:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>>mensa@... writes:

>>

>><< My other symptoms are joint achiness, numbness in hands which may be

due

>>to narrowing of disk space in the neck, EXTREME coldness--I

>> was in Miami, Florida a couple weeks ago and even got cold there at

times.

>>>>

>>

>>Hello, C from Michigan

>>

>>Welcome to the list. I have been diagnosed with spondylosis by my

>>chiropractor. This is the name of the condition where the area on the

spinal

>>column where the spinal cord goes through narrows over time, and puts

>>pressure on the nerves. Taking certain supplements, such as magnesium,

>>calcium, bone meal, boron, vitamin D, etc., may help to slow down this

>>condition which usually gets progressively worse. If you are prone to

>>osteoporosis, natural progesterone may also be very beneficial. If you

have

>>not been to a chiropractor, I urge you to make an appointment with one in

>>your area who is well-experienced. It is very likely that some of your

>>physical symptoms may be caused by pressure on the nerves, which could be

>>corrected. That is not to say that you do not have hypothyroidism, but

>>perhaps some of your symptoms could be eliminated or lessened.

>>

>>Sincerely,

>>Ira M. Fine

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I hope you are having your amalgams removed in the approved way.

There is a protocol for removal of amalgams, and for chelation of metals

after removal. The dentist is supposed to chip out the fillings not

just drill them. You need to be monitored by a doctor for mercury

levels, and DMSA chelation done at no more than 100mg a day. I have

not yet found a dentist or doctor that understands what they are supposed

to do, or that understands to do the protocol properly. I am currently

educating my doctors, and it is a battle, but armed with published NIH

information even these " experts " can learn. LTLDAB1@...

Hi ,

I have talked to several people who also have this shoulder pain and some

got better after having their amalgmas and/or root canaled teeth replaced

and/or removed...I am in that process right now and am hoping that the

neck/shoulder pain leave with the amalgams....

LucindaLInda

chiropractor

>Thanks Ira,

>

>I will consider that. Right now I am getting physical therapy for my

shoulder which has been bothering me for a long time but recently gotten

worse.

>

> C.-MI

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>AIM ID Naomi0321

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>On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:34:23 iramfine wrote:

>>From: iramfine@...

>>

>>In a message dated 03/29/2000 8:34:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>>mensa@... writes:

>>

>><< My other symptoms are joint achiness, numbness in hands which may be

due

>>to narrowing of disk space in the neck, EXTREME coldness--I

>> was in Miami, Florida a couple weeks ago and even got cold there at

times.

>>>>

>>

>>Hello, C from Michigan

>>

>>Welcome to the list. I have been diagnosed with spondylosis by my

>>chiropractor. This is the name of the condition where the area on the

spinal

>>column where the spinal cord goes through narrows over time, and puts

>>pressure on the nerves. Taking certain supplements, such as magnesium,

>>calcium, bone meal, boron, vitamin D, etc., may help to slow down this

>>condition which usually gets progressively worse. If you are prone to

>>osteoporosis, natural progesterone may also be very beneficial. If you

have

>>not been to a chiropractor, I urge you to make an appointment with one in

>>your area who is well-experienced. It is very likely that some of your

>>physical symptoms may be caused by pressure on the nerves, which could be

>>corrected. That is not to say that you do not have hypothyroidism, but

>>perhaps some of your symptoms could be eliminated or lessened.

>>

>>Sincerely,

>>Ira M. Fine

>>

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Thanks , I am in that process as well. When my dentist says " we need to

replace this filling " I say, good, replace it with a non metallic filling.

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On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:43:33 Daughetee wrote:

>Hi ,

>I have talked to several people who also have this shoulder pain and some

>got better after having their amalgmas and/or root canaled teeth replaced

>and/or removed...I am in that process right now and am hoping that the

>neck/shoulder pain leave with the amalgams....

>

>LucindaLInda

>

> chiropractor

>

>

>>Thanks Ira,

>>

>>I will consider that. Right now I am getting physical therapy for my

>shoulder which has been bothering me for a long time but recently gotten

>worse.

>>

>> C.-MI

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>>AIM ID Naomi0321

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>>

>>

>>

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>>On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:34:23 iramfine wrote:

>>>From: iramfine@...

>>>

>>>In a message dated 03/29/2000 8:34:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>>>mensa@... writes:

>>>

>>><< My other symptoms are joint achiness, numbness in hands which may be

>due

>>>to narrowing of disk space in the neck, EXTREME coldness--I

>>> was in Miami, Florida a couple weeks ago and even got cold there at

>times.

>>>>>

>>>

>>>Hello, C from Michigan

>>>

>>>Welcome to the list. I have been diagnosed with spondylosis by my

>>>chiropractor. This is the name of the condition where the area on the

>spinal

>>>column where the spinal cord goes through narrows over time, and puts

>>>pressure on the nerves. Taking certain supplements, such as magnesium,

>>>calcium, bone meal, boron, vitamin D, etc., may help to slow down this

>>>condition which usually gets progressively worse. If you are prone to

>>>osteoporosis, natural progesterone may also be very beneficial. If you

>have

>>>not been to a chiropractor, I urge you to make an appointment with one in

>>>your area who is well-experienced. It is very likely that some of your

>>>physical symptoms may be caused by pressure on the nerves, which could be

>>>corrected. That is not to say that you do not have hypothyroidism, but

>>>perhaps some of your symptoms could be eliminated or lessened.

>>>

>>>Sincerely,

>>>Ira M. Fine

>>>

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Hi LeeAnn, I go to a chiropractor and there are two very important things to

remember. You have to make sure you are seeing a GOOD chiropractor, once you

know he/she is a good chiro, then you must follow up with the visits. In the

beginning it usually hurts because things are being shifted around and the

muscles have adjusted to them, now you have to get everything back in place.

If you are icing a certain are make sure it is 10 minutes on and 10 minutes

off. I think you be happy with the results if you follow the chiros orders.

Best of Luck, Michele

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Hi, Lee Ann

I used to get massages until I realized that the day after a massage, I

could hardly move. At that time, I was dealing more with fibromyalgia than

PA, however, I believe, even after my fibro has been eclipsed by the PA,

that I would not be doing myself a favor to have that intensive a body work

done again. I was encouraged by a naturopath to find someone who does

therapeutic touch.

I do have a massage therapist here on the island who does energy balancing

work which is working with the aura and creative visualization using a plumb

bob and her energy field to work with the chakras and, if I follow/remember

how I feel after leaving one of my sessions with her, I can keep in pretty

good balance for several days thereafter. The trick for me is to do the

calming response breathing meditation where you breathe in through your nose

and exhale through your mouth, then repeat the drill only as you exhale say

to yourself, " calm body, calm mind " , or if you prefer, " calm body, active

mind " for whatever will serve you at the time. I have found that on the

intake breath, if I pause holding the breath for a nanosecond and then

complete the breath in and entirely exhale on the exhale portion, on the

next breath in, I get the full effect all the way down to the bottom of my

lungs and that really feels good!

Dr. Weil has a saying which I have posted on my refrigerator which

reads, " If today you can be aware of breathing for ten seconds more than you

were yesterday, you will have taken a measurable step toward expanded

consciousness, deeper communication between mind and body, and integration

of your physical, mental, and spiritual functions. I can recommend no

single more powerful-or more simple--daily practice to further your health

and well-being. "

I do try to follow that directive but I can find that it escapes me if I

happen to be feeling better one day than the day before.

Some days, I do experience the " racing effect " that others have reported,

and I find that the quieting response works but you have to keep at it

repeatedly until your body " listens " and responds to your intentions.

Some days, even that won't make a dent and then I just go to bed and sleep

in hopes I will awake in a different state.

I agree with Donna that to keep moving helps and to find something else to

occupy your mind when none of your " tricks " will work, at least lessens the

pain. It is a discipline (the breathing exercise), however and if not

practiced, atrophies (sp!?)

Maggie

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Thanks ,

How do you find a good chiropractor without trying several? I am afraid to

do that! :D

I may be laid up for months trying to find the right one. I am not so sure

the one I have seen is the best one but he is the only one in town.

My grandmother sees one that does not actually " crack " the back. I have

thought of seeing him but I hate to go through the pain if he is not that

good. Any suggestions?

Lee Ann

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Yes, LeeAnn, what says is all true. My dad is a chiropractor so

I'm speaking from experience here.

--Jay Vercellotti

>know he/she is a good chiro, then you must follow up with the visits. In

the

>beginning it usually hurts because things are being shifted around and the

>muscles have adjusted to them, now you have to get everything back in

place.

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Hi Lee Ann, I know it is almost impossible to find out how good a chiro is if

there is only one in your town. I would think that word of mouth is the

easiest way without having to test each one out. I know that Palmer

Chiropractic in Iowa is one of the top schools for Chiropractors and each

state should have Chiropractic Association, maybe if you got in touch with

them they could help you. Let me know how you do. Michele

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Hi Jow,

Yes, I have been going to a chiropractor for years. If I am really

sick, I break out into severe sweats before I leave the office. The adjustments

have kept me going. I don't know what I would do without him.

Connie, MI

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Definitely ask the chiro, they have to be used to this.

Mine gave me a diagnosis that had to do with what was wrong not anything to do

with autism.

Good luck, love chiropractic work!!!!

vilma_negron <vilma_negron@...> wrote:

I will be taking my son to a chiropractor this evening and since my

insurance does not cover autism, does anyone have any ideas what to

use for reasons.

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Definitely ask the chiro, they have to be used to this.

Mine gave me a diagnosis that had to do with what was wrong not anything to do

with autism.

Good luck, love chiropractic work!!!!

vilma_negron <vilma_negron@...> wrote:

I will be taking my son to a chiropractor this evening and since my

insurance does not cover autism, does anyone have any ideas what to

use for reasons.

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Our diagnosis was not associated with autism either. I am proud and blessed to

say that the pinch on my daughters brainstem was checked today, and it has been

releaved!! Her body is beginning to function correctly...especially the bowel

issues that have plagued her for years...All in a three week period of time. We

are still committed to seeing him three times a week for two more months, but

after seeing her scans and xrays today nothing could keep me away. She is

SOOOOOO much better. She has more color in her face, she is going to the

bathroom, she is communicating much more, her use of language is improving as

well, and her pupils are no longer as big as a saucer, she is sleeping better,

she is interacting with her peers more appropriately and (this is a big one) SHE

IS NOT FIXED ON HER GAMEBOY ANY MORE!!

I bet you will find out that there is a medical condition that is making your

child display some kind of symptom...but it is not " autism " . Not saying that the

diagnosis is wrong..but for my daughter, at least, her gut issues were not due

to her autism..or whatever you want to label it. But it was due to her brainstem

being pinched, and a pinched nerve in her lower back that controls the

bowel/large intestine.

Find out the information that relates to your child, and then you will most

likely have something tangible to show the insurance co.

Good luck tonight, let us know what you find out!

blessings, Debbie

lvchefmel <lvchefmel@...> wrote:

Definitely ask the chiro, they have to be used to this.

Mine gave me a diagnosis that had to do with what was wrong not anything to do

with autism.

Good luck, love chiropractic work!!!!

vilma_negron <vilma_negron@...> wrote:

I will be taking my son to a chiropractor this evening and since my

insurance does not cover autism, does anyone have any ideas what to

use for reasons.

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Debbie: Did the chiro offer any theories as to how her brainstem became pinched

and her lower back? During birth process? Did your daughter regress or were

there clues since she was born? I ask because my son also has gigantic pupils

and I have noticed this symptom since he was an infant. He is now three. Has

your chiro offered any info as to how to go about finding someone qualified to

diagnose such a condition? Thanks for any input......

Re: Chiropractor

Our diagnosis was not associated with autism either. I am proud and blessed to

say that the pinch on my daughters brainstem was checked today, and it has been

releaved!! Her body is beginning to function correctly...especially the bowel

issues that have plagued her for years...All in a three week period of time. We

are still committed to seeing him three times a week for two more months, but

after seeing her scans and xrays today nothing could keep me away. She is

SOOOOOO much better. She has more color in her face, she is going to the

bathroom, she is communicating much more, her use of language is improving as

well, and her pupils are no longer as big as a saucer, she is sleeping better,

she is interacting with her peers more appropriately and (this is a big one) SHE

IS NOT FIXED ON HER GAMEBOY ANY MORE!!

I bet you will find out that there is a medical condition that is making your

child display some kind of symptom...but it is not " autism " . Not saying that the

diagnosis is wrong..but for my daughter, at least, her gut issues were not due

to her autism..or whatever you want to label it. But it was due to her brainstem

being pinched, and a pinched nerve in her lower back that controls the

bowel/large intestine.

Find out the information that relates to your child, and then you will most

likely have something tangible to show the insurance co.

Good luck tonight, let us know what you find out!

blessings, Debbie

lvchefmel <lvchefmel@...> wrote:

Definitely ask the chiro, they have to be used to this.

Mine gave me a diagnosis that had to do with what was wrong not anything to do

with autism.

Good luck, love chiropractic work!!!!

vilma_negron <vilma_negron@...> wrote:

I will be taking my son to a chiropractor this evening and since my

insurance does not cover autism, does anyone have any ideas what to

use for reasons.

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Hi ,

Yes he believes it was an injury from birth trauma. I dont remember any symptoms

of autism during infancy, but one thing that should have been a clue was the

fact that she could not drink/nurse without crying right from the start. That

" symptom " only lasted for about three months. The theory is that the birth

trauma/pinch in the brainstem/ pinched nerves in lower spine in co-operation (so

to speak) with the mercury and live virus's in the immunizations was just to

much for her immune system. She did have MANY ear/sinus infections as a baby and

a toddler. The antibiotics just did further harm.

I am absolutely floored by the recovery being made at this point. The " light " is

ON!! And she is definately a different child. She appears to be recovering at a

very fast rate now. I am happy to say that we were also just told that she is

expected to recover fully!!

If you want to talk further, email me directly. I can give you my doctors email

address if you want to ask some questions. I know what he will tell you

though...He has never worked on an autistic child who did not have some sort of

subluxation...birth trauma....pinched nerve thing going on. Pretty amazing

information...

Blessings, Debbie

Erby & Fischer <elfischer@...> wrote:

Debbie: Did the chiro offer any theories as to how her brainstem became pinched

and her lower back? During birth process? Did your daughter regress or were

there clues since she was born? I ask because my son also has gigantic pupils

and I have noticed this symptom since he was an infant. He is now three. Has

your chiro offered any info as to how to go about finding someone qualified to

diagnose such a condition? Thanks for any input......

Re: Chiropractor

Our diagnosis was not associated with autism either. I am proud and blessed to

say that the pinch on my daughters brainstem was checked today, and it has been

releaved!! Her body is beginning to function correctly...especially the bowel

issues that have plagued her for years...All in a three week period of time. We

are still committed to seeing him three times a week for two more months, but

after seeing her scans and xrays today nothing could keep me away. She is

SOOOOOO much better. She has more color in her face, she is going to the

bathroom, she is communicating much more, her use of language is improving as

well, and her pupils are no longer as big as a saucer, she is sleeping better,

she is interacting with her peers more appropriately and (this is a big one) SHE

IS NOT FIXED ON HER GAMEBOY ANY MORE!!

I bet you will find out that there is a medical condition that is making your

child display some kind of symptom...but it is not " autism " . Not saying that the

diagnosis is wrong..but for my daughter, at least, her gut issues were not due

to her autism..or whatever you want to label it. But it was due to her brainstem

being pinched, and a pinched nerve in her lower back that controls the

bowel/large intestine.

Find out the information that relates to your child, and then you will most

likely have something tangible to show the insurance co.

Good luck tonight, let us know what you find out!

blessings, Debbie

lvchefmel <lvchefmel@...> wrote:

Definitely ask the chiro, they have to be used to this.

Mine gave me a diagnosis that had to do with what was wrong not anything to do

with autism.

Good luck, love chiropractic work!!!!

vilma_negron <vilma_negron@...> wrote:

I will be taking my son to a chiropractor this evening and since my

insurance does not cover autism, does anyone have any ideas what to

use for reasons.

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Yes. When I was pregnant with my second, I saw a

chiro for backpain, migraines and numbness in my right

foot.

I loved the results!

--- lcarveth <l.carveth@...> wrote:

> Has anyone had any positive/negative experiences

> with chiropractor

> either for epilepsy or headache/nausea/migraine?.

>

> Liz

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Liz

I have gone to a chiropractor as a child. This chiropractor was not

your " normal " chiro. He did many other things to me. I would go on

several equipments that got me ready for the adjustment. He would

place this other one on parts of my head and side.I dont know if they

do that at all chiro's.

But I would have to go weekly.

I became seizure free for nine months without meds.

I went to an amusement park, and was told that from going on rides, it

caused my neck to go out of wack. THen it caused a seizure then next

day. SO as a child I told my parents I am never going back again. (I

guess I didnt really understand at the time).

I did go back to him as an adult for a very short time. But it had to

be as often as I did as a child and I did not. It was very far and I

had children and it was just too hard at the time.

You do have to be careful, for they can manipulate the spine too much

and cause problems.

Make sure you go to a really good chiropractor, that is good with diet

and health too. That is also helpful.

take care

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> Has anyone had any positive/negative experiences with chiropractor

> either for epilepsy or headache/nausea/migraine?.

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> Liz

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My daughter was 5 at the time she was dx w/general absence seizures. She was

having about 40 seizures a day. We took her to a chiropractor and within 2

adjustments she was having only 20 seizures a day! They never decreased after

20. They took an x-ray and look at the top 3 cervical vertebrae. Some seizure

patients have obvious problems looking at x-rays whereas my daughters wasn't too

bad. I highly encourage it!

Candie

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Hi. Has anyone taken their child to the Chiropractor to get

adjustments from spinal cord to pelvic area? I've been told by two

people already that it has helped their ADHD kids. But wondering if it

really helps with Autism.

Thanks

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IMHO would check into Craniosacral therapy instead. There is a lot

of information out there on how it's helpful for kids with autism.

You can go to www.upledger.com and do a search for autism. It's

especially supposed to help with sensory issues.

When I've got to chiropractors in the past, it was all about getting

your back cracked - very uncomfortable, or being put on machines. I

really don't see how a child would tolerate that very well. We've

been to a craniosacral theapist a couple of times and my son seems

to enjoy it, but I wish he'd lie still!

>

> Hi. Has anyone taken their child to the Chiropractor to get

> adjustments from spinal cord to pelvic area? I've been told by two

> people already that it has helped their ADHD kids. But wondering

if it

> really helps with Autism.

>

> Thanks

>

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thats where i found out about my scolosis.... it gave me temp relieve.... but

now i hurt worse than i did before i went

From: princessbuttercup12 <princessbuttercup12@...>

Subject: chiropractor

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:15 PM

has anyone with scoliosis gone to or considered going to a chiropractor?

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Hi ,

I was dx at the age of 13yrs old. I am now 38yrs old and I go to the

chiro every 3 weeks for an adjustment. However, my chiro was

recommended by my ortho dr. She adjustment for the muscle spasms and

applies heat and ice and electrode therapy that really helps. It's not

a cure all, but it helps with the medication doesn't. I hope this helps.

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I went most of my life. It did help, but I had to be careful who I went to. I

didn't like the neck cracking and heavy handed adjustments. I went right up to

the time I had surgery. When I was young my pain was occasional and minimal and

the adjustments would really make it go away. As I got older and pain got worse,

it helped somewhat. With pinched nerves and keeping my hips from getting too out

of line. Now I don't go since I'm fused.

chiropractor

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:15 PM

has anyone with scoliosis gone to or considered going to a chiropractor?

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I did.  I was straightened a bit, but it didn't last.  I stopped going.

lj

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Subject: chiropractor

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 9:15 PM

has anyone with scoliosis gone to or considered going to a chiropractor?

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