Re: IEP, Indy evals for Rose

[Guest guest]

School departments can consider the recommendations from an outside

evaluation, they do not HAVE to incorporate them into an IEP or use them in

deciding

eligibility.. Also, if a school district feels strongly in their first

evaluation, they can refuse an independant evaluation and initiate due process

with the family. This is rare, but sometimes families think that they will

automatically get an outside independant evaluation when they don't agree. Pam

[Guest guest]

if your son hasn't had recent educational testing then it might be something

you want to agree to, to prove that he is still not on grade level in Math.

Schools are always going to try to reduce or eliminate services when

possible. That's why as parents we need to be savy in knowing what our rights

are.

Pam

[Guest guest]

be very cautious going out and getting help/tutoring for your child (even

though he/she may need it). I have worked with several families who

immediately started sending their child to Sylvan and it helped enough that the

school

didn't have to provide any services. The three year reevaluation is not

mandatory. You can refuse it as the child's parent and member of the IEP team.

You can also choose to do an outside or private evaluation on your own

instead and choose what to share with the school team. Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

the school thinks my son is getting to much help right now and would like to

see how he does if they don't help him as much. I think this is still too soon

since he " can't read " . last night, he told me if he can't read a math question.

He will look at the math problem and guess what to do. If he gets it wrong, its

because he couldn't read the question. but, as soon as someone reads the math

question to him. he will answer that math problem the right way.

ppanda65@... wrote:

School departments can consider the recommendations from an outside

evaluation, they do not HAVE to incorporate them into an IEP or use them in

deciding

eligibility.. Also, if a school district feels strongly in their first

evaluation, they can refuse an independant evaluation and initiate due process

with the family. This is rare, but sometimes families think that they will

automatically get an outside independant evaluation when they don't agree. Pam

[Guest guest]

Thanks -Ann

I think with all this information I'm getting from this site. It's important

for me to make an appointment with family resource and try to find out much

more. I also think the school is trying to change my sons DX because he is

doing much better. they told me: He doesn't fit Autism anymore that they feel

he should be DXed with something else right now???? My son has never " not had "

outside help (that I paid for) with tutoring, therapy, social skills. He also

has social skills in school, speech, and now a reading program in school since I

kept sending in notes stating he can't read, write or spell. When they finally

decided to test him to shut me up and prove me wrong. instead, they told me he

was two years behind in reading..... I didn't wait for the school to notice

this. I already had him in a reading program. Colleges, have students that

work with a professor that help kids read. I've been doing this for a while.

Now that he just started to improve. the

school wants to change his services???? and Diagnosis. they said, they will

do this every three years to see where he is classified at.

-Ann <kalars69@...> wrote:

Does the school realize that because of the therapy he has improved?

Or

do you feel they are trying to place him out of Spec Ed services?

With regard to Independant evals, here in MN (maybe national) if you

disagree with an independant, outside evaluation paid by school (or

also if school doesn't have staff qualified) you have right to ask for

evaluation outside the school system. That said, the school must

consider the 3rd round of evaluation but isn't required to implement

the recommendations. (Ask for Procedural Safeguards, details how

process works & your rights, responsibilities)

This also may have changed with latest IDEA bill, but I'm not up 100%

on new regs just yet.

_Ann

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[Guest guest]

The people that do the outside help with my son said: as soon as the evaluator

meets with him they will keep all services and not to worry.

ppanda65@... wrote: if your son hasn't had recent educational

testing then it might be something

you want to agree to, to prove that he is still not on grade level in Math.

Schools are always going to try to reduce or eliminate services when

possible. That's why as parents we need to be savy in knowing what our rights

are.

Pam

[Guest guest]

In my sons situation, he is so far behind with reading, writing & spelling.

that with the schools help and outside help, he is still far behind. they saw

this when they gave him a science test and he failed it. I told them to read

the questions to him. He knows each answer. They did and he got them all

right. The help that my son is getting, he needs it. thanks for your response.

ppanda65@... wrote: be very cautious going out and getting

help/tutoring for your child (even

though he/she may need it). I have worked with several families who

immediately started sending their child to Sylvan and it helped enough that the

school

didn't have to provide any services. The three year reevaluation is not

mandatory. You can refuse it as the child's parent and member of the IEP team.

You can also choose to do an outside or private evaluation on your own

instead and choose what to share with the school team. Pam

[Guest guest]

Pam,

that is exactly what I'm trying to do. Learn my right to help my son. I read

alot on this site because, to go to places that have speakers come in to help

parents. We can't take our children & sitters are hard to find and expensive

too. So, I learn as much as I can here.

Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

The people that do the outside help with my son said: as soon as the

evaluator meets with him they will keep all services and not to worry.

ppanda65@... wrote: if your son hasn't had recent educational testing then

it might be something

you want to agree to, to prove that he is still not on grade level in Math.

Schools are always going to try to reduce or eliminate services when

possible. That's why as parents we need to be savy in knowing what our rights

are.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Your's is somewhat similar situation we are in; that we have provided

all his " sucessful " services. We are having Grant's 3 year review

soonish...part of why I waited was to get this diagnosis; 3 year review

it is part of big picture " IEP process " to continue to re-evaluate his

goals and ensure he's making educational progress he's capable of.

Great book is " Negotiating the Special Ed maze " , by Winifred

Chitwood & Diedre Hayden

Look at www.pacer.org then on left side National information; this will

take you to another website,(taaalliance I think) where you can get

state specific Parent Advocacy information to become more informed.

-Ann

[Guest guest]

I will check out that book and the web-site too.

big thanks.

-Ann <kalars69@...> wrote:

Your's is somewhat similar situation we are in; that we have provided

all his " sucessful " services. We are having Grant's 3 year review

soonish...part of why I waited was to get this diagnosis; 3 year review

it is part of big picture " IEP process " to continue to re-evaluate his

goals and ensure he's making educational progress he's capable of.

Great book is " Negotiating the Special Ed maze " , by Winifred

Chitwood & Diedre Hayden

Look at www.pacer.org then on left side National information; this will

take you to another website,(taaalliance I think) where you can get

state specific Parent Advocacy information to become more informed.

-Ann

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