Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 This does not just concern this one incident but because it happened at school, I would be concerned that similar " tactics " would take place the next time your son stresses out. I would really request that a behavior plan be put into place at school to cover future issues. As I understand it, being in the Indianapolis area myself, these adults were not teachers, just people hired to watch kids after school. They make very little money and receive no training. These daycare facilities are separate from school, even though they meet at the school and are not covered by IEP, etc., as I understand. My son's psychologist insists that he NOT attend any such facility. Good advice if you can manage it with working parents and a school that doesn't start until 9:20 a.m. Sherry has removed her son from the daycare and hopefully will not need to use such a facility again. Sherry, my prayers are with you, , mom to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Bill is a father in Pa who does police and rescue responders seminars on how to handle autistic and AS kids. His video is no longer available to purchase but travels around speaking to police depts. Go to autismtoday.com and you can email him for info on what he does. We should all have him come to our areas. All the best, Jill " He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. " Is. 40:29-31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 We had the same thing happen when our son was 5 and again at age 7. Call the Juvenile Justice Office where the complaint will be forwarded to by the police. Tell them your child is Autistic and if he has an IEP and / or IBP. We had all charges dropped or dismissed in both cases because the school (after school programs held in the school must follow the same rules as the school) did not follow correct procedure under the IEP and IBP. Write me if I may offer more information. Lynn --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I can't believe this story. It actually made me cry and I called my husband back to read it. All I could imagine was my own little boy in the same position. So horrible. It just breaks my heart for your son. I agree with the others. I would call the media and sue the pants off that day care at least and then possible the police. Our prayers are with you. Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Some " prevention advice " , a little late in your case, but is still a good idea if you can do it. I haven't posted lately, but this topic caught my eye because it's something we talked about a little here previously. Myself and our county mental health case manager, have worked together to inform the local PD here about Jake's autism, and how things should be handled should they be called to school or home. This way, the police know why they are being called, and that there is a plan in place to avoid situations like this. When dispatch is called, I (or the school)just let them know that there is a file there for my son. Of course the school resource officer is already aware. Just a thought, because these things can be so traumatic for our kids. The resource officer at school even comes and has luch with Jake at school sometimes, just so Jake knows he's a friend. Good luck, I know you had court today, hope all went well. Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Sherry, I hope I didn't miss any mails, but how did it go? Did they drop charges? We've been thinking about you, and given our history the last couple of months, our thoughts/prayers are truly with you. Sherry Hudson wrote: > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our 10 year > old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school on > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program, only > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F were > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program because I > don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic. > > These bright people at the after school program decide to do a pinata > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch of > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of candy. > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home, they > just get to carry it around. > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's candy and > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't give it > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but not > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He was > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't listen. > > During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what was > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out, he > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it and > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so literal > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They just > know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for help. > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and > When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her and > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his hand. > She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school > police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy. > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2 charges > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he was > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him chained > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 hours for > them to release him. When these other kids were coming out > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there crying. > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to hit, > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point that > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child! > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him in the > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that. > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, ever. The > probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them could > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he was > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the juvenile > facility didn't know until we told them! > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if they > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on how > we should proceed? > > This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis) > Indiana. > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > Sherry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I wanted to bring everyone up to speed. They have not dropped the charges. We were told they would know by Monday of this week if they were going to drop the charges, but the prosecutor hasn't even screened the case yet. We may not find out until the day of the hearing. However, I've been busy. Never underestimate what parents will do to protect their children! I've contacted a group called Indiana Protection and Advocacy Services(IPAS). Their job is to protect the rights of disabled citizens. I haven't heard back yet, but I bet it won't take long. I'm also in contact with our State Department of Education - Division of Exceptional Learners. I'm going to file a complaint for how the school is NOT handling his autism in the classroom and find out what can be done about day care groups on school property not following the law on special needs kids. I've contacted my state representative. It's election time, this will bring them out of the woodwork. I have not contacted the media. We're trying to protect him, and don't want him to become a target at school because of something someone reads in the paper or sees on TV. As far as we know, the hearing will proceed next Wednesday @ 2P. Keep praying for us! Sherry > > > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our 10 year > > old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school on > > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program, only > > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F were > > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program because I > > don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the > > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic. > > > > These bright people at the after school program decide to do a pinata > > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch of > > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of candy. > > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home, they > > just get to carry it around. > > > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's candy and > > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't give it > > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but not > > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He was > > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't listen. > > > > During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what was > > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out, he > > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it and > > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so literal > > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They just > > know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for help. > > > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and > > When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her and > > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his hand. > > She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school > > police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say > > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy. > > > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly > > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2 charges > > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he was > > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him chained > > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 hours for > > them to release him. When these other kids were coming out > > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there crying. > > > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to hit, > > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him > > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point that > > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child! > > > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him in the > > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that. > > > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, ever. The > > probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them could > > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he was > > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the juvenile > > facility didn't know until we told them! > > > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if they > > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on how > > we should proceed? > > > > This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis) > > Indiana. > > > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > > Sherry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Mom Contact Dan Burton a congressman from Indiana his grandson is autistic as well and he leads a battle to help these children, he went nose to nose w/Bush to have the Homeland Security Act held from being passed because Bush & the drug companies are in bed together as we all know. Butron maybe of assistance ir refer you in the right direction as well.. Contact an atty as you may have legal recourse the school knows of the little guys situation and did the police attempt to contact you during the time your son was being transported? Do u have any communique from your childs DR that prohibits that activity if so u are in good shape if not get something from his DR prohibiting the police from this action in the future, was the officer that arrested your son a certified juvie officer. ALSO if possble download a copy of the IDEA it is an invaluable piece of work a federal law that shuts these arrogant, pompous, pontificating asses up in a hearbeat. I also am battling w/idioys here in FL as my son had charges fiiled against him for pushing his teacher away from him she this and I am not fabricating this is 6'0 " and weighs at least 180 is 12 yrs old 53 " tall andweighs 113 this cow amazon witch had the nerve to say she was in fear of her safety. We have since removed from that hell hole and began homeschooling and he to date has stopped w/the night terrors, the attitude and more. Excop32 --- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote: > I wanted to bring everyone up to speed. They have not dropped the > charges. We were told they would know by Monday of this week if they > were going to drop the charges, but the prosecutor hasn't even > screened the case yet. We may not find out until the day of the > hearing. > > However, I've been busy. Never underestimate what parents will do > to protect their children! > > I've contacted a group called Indiana Protection and Advocacy > Services(IPAS). Their job is to protect the rights of disabled > citizens. I haven't heard back yet, but I bet it won't take long. > > I'm also in contact with our State Department of Education - > Division of Exceptional Learners. I'm going to file a complaint for > how the school is NOT handling his autism in the classroom and find > out what can be done about day care groups on school property not > following the law on special needs kids. > > I've contacted my state representative. It's election time, this > will bring them out of the woodwork. > > I have not contacted the media. We're trying to protect him, and > don't want him to become a target at school because of something > someone reads in the paper or sees on TV. > > As far as we know, the hearing will proceed next Wednesday @ 2P. > > Keep praying for us! > Sherry > > > > > > > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our 10 > year > > > old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school > on > > > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program, > only > > > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F > were > > > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program > because I > > > don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the > > > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic. > > > > > > These bright people at the after school program decide to do a > pinata > > > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch > of > > > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of > candy. > > > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home, > they > > > just get to carry it around. > > > > > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's > candy and > > > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't > give it > > > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but > not > > > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He > was > > > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't listen. > > > > > > During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what > was > > > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out, > he > > > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it > and > > > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so > literal > > > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They > just > > > know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for > help. > > > > > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again > and > > > When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with > her and > > > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his > hand. > > > She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school > > > police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they > say > > > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy. > > > > > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly > > > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2 > charges > > > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he > was > > > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him > chained > > > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 > hours for > > > them to release him. When these other kids were coming out > > > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there > crying. > > > > > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to > hit, > > > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him > > > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point > that > > > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child! > > > > > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him > in the > > > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that. > > > > > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, > ever. The > > > probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them > could > > > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he > was > > > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the > juvenile > > > facility didn't know until we told them! > > > > > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if > they > > > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > > > > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on > how > > > we should proceed? > > > > > > This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis) > > > Indiana. > > > > > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Sherry, your case really outraged everybody in this group. Can you find and pass around the e-mail for the District Attorney so that all of us can tell them about our feeling regarding the case? If she/he feels the case is getting national attention they may move more quickly and favorably to your son and similar cases in the future. Thanks, and have a great day. F --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The charges have been dropped!!!! God surely works in wonderful ways! Praise Him daily. I want to encourage everyone to contact your state legislators. I did, and ours was extremely helpful. He made calls and offered support when he could've just passed me on to an aide or ignored us completely. I also found out that our state Autism Commission is working on legislative recommendations to better instruct the schools on working with autism. The legislature just doesn't know enough, and it's up to all of us to tell them to support the legislation. I've learned that we all have to get involved and SPEAK UP! Don't be afraid to call the school district administration, and school boards too. Call your local chapter of the Autism Society of America, I did and I couldn't have asked for better moral support and help! THANK YOU SUSAN PIEPLES!!! Thank you to all who supported us and prayed for us. We're going to work very hard to put this nightmare behind us and focus on helping our son become a productive and independent member of society. God Bless, Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hooray and congrats! I'd been reading the thread and am so glad for your son! Just sorry you had to work so hard and worry to take care of something that should never have happened! > > The charges have been dropped!!!! > > God surely works in wonderful ways! Praise Him daily. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 God Bless you and your family - I am glad everything turned out so well for you:) a --- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote: > The charges have been dropped!!!! > > God surely works in wonderful ways! Praise Him > daily. > > I want to encourage everyone to contact your state > legislators. I > did, and ours was extremely helpful. He made calls > and offered > support when he could've just passed me on to an > aide or ignored us > completely. > > I also found out that our state Autism Commission is > working on > legislative recommendations to better instruct the > schools on > working with autism. The legislature just doesn't > know enough, and > it's up to all of us to tell them to support the > legislation. > > I've learned that we all have to get involved and > SPEAK UP! > Don't be afraid to call the school district > administration, and > school boards too. > > Call your local chapter of the Autism Society of > America, I did and > I couldn't have asked for better moral support and > help! THANK YOU > SUSAN PIEPLES!!! > > Thank you to all who supported us and prayed for us. > We're going to > work very hard to put this nightmare behind us and > focus on helping > our son become a productive and independent member > of society. > > God Bless, > Sherry > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Good for you. I'm so glad for you. It never should have happened but at least now the worst part is over. Amber > The charges have been dropped!!!! > > God surely works in wonderful ways! Praise Him daily. > > I want to encourage everyone to contact your state legislators. I > did, and ours was extremely helpful. He made calls and offered > support when he could've just passed me on to an aide or ignored us > completely. > > I also found out that our state Autism Commission is working on > legislative recommendations to better instruct the schools on > working with autism. The legislature just doesn't know enough, and > it's up to all of us to tell them to support the legislation. > > I've learned that we all have to get involved and SPEAK UP! > Don't be afraid to call the school district administration, and > school boards too. > > Call your local chapter of the Autism Society of America, I did and > I couldn't have asked for better moral support and help! THANK YOU > SUSAN PIEPLES!!! > > Thank you to all who supported us and prayed for us. We're going to > work very hard to put this nightmare behind us and focus on helping > our son become a productive and independent member of society. > > God Bless, > Sherry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hooray! Double Hooray! For you, your son, and your Family! So glad things worked out the way they did. However, who knows maybe your hard work and phone calls may have opened others (Legislators') eyes to the need for school instruction and training regarding our " Special " Kids. Then maybe something positive might come out of your families' frightening experience. All my best.Keep us posted. :-) Clemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Awesome Sherry!!!! Great to hear the good news. Hugs to you and your family. Best luck to you all... Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote: The charges have been dropped!!!! God surely works in wonderful ways! Praise Him daily. I want to encourage everyone to contact your state legislators. I did, and ours was extremely helpful. He made calls and offered support when he could've just passed me on to an aide or ignored us completely. I also found out that our state Autism Commission is working on legislative recommendations to better instruct the schools on working with autism. The legislature just doesn't know enough, and it's up to all of us to tell them to support the legislation. I've learned that we all have to get involved and SPEAK UP! Don't be afraid to call the school district administration, and school boards too. Call your local chapter of the Autism Society of America, I did and I couldn't have asked for better moral support and help! THANK YOU SUSAN PIEPLES!!! Thank you to all who supported us and prayed for us. We're going to work very hard to put this nightmare behind us and focus on helping our son become a productive and independent member of society. God Bless, Sherry --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I hope this isn't throwing a wet blanket on your victory, but I was wondering if you are going to pursue any legal action. I would like an example to made of those at fault so people are aware that they need to act appropriately with children or there will be consequences. Of course it is your decision. I am glad that justice prevailed and your son is in my prayers. Good luck, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I would like to add to that with: its also very important for her child to see that others get a consequence for what they do and not just him!!! Also, what is going to happen to that girl who started all this???? If nothing, what will happen when she does it again? debramelamed <melamedj@...> wrote: I hope this isn't throwing a wet blanket on your victory, but I was wondering if you are going to pursue any legal action. I would like an example to made of those at fault so people are aware that they need to act appropriately with children or there will be consequences. Of course it is your decision. I am glad that justice prevailed and your son is in my prayers. Good luck, Debbie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 The sad thing about your comment (also important for her child to see that others get a consequence)... I think there are privacy laws in place now protecting the perpetrator! I know a few years ago, my NT daughter pushed a boy who was provoking her. He stumbled over his own feet and hit his head on the radiator or something, and ended up with 3 days ISS for injuring him. We both asked if the provocation was addressed and what punishment the boy received, and we were told by the principal that she could not confide that information. Of course the school rumor mill ran amock (sp?)... but my point is the whole privacy issue may prevent our special kids being exposed to the big picture and learning a bit of democratic justice, in this situation. I hope this isn't throwing a wet blanket on your victory, but I was > wondering if you are going to pursue any legal action. I would like > an example to made of those at fault so people are aware that they > need to act appropriately with children or there will be > consequences. Of course it is your decision. > > I am glad that justice prevailed and your son is in my prayers. > > Good luck, > > Debbie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 You are right. that is unfair. I'm sure everybody know what happened to her son.... chaissonmary <chaissonmary@...> wrote: The sad thing about your comment (also important for her child to see that others get a consequence)... I think there are privacy laws in place now protecting the perpetrator! I know a few years ago, my NT daughter pushed a boy who was provoking her. He stumbled over his own feet and hit his head on the radiator or something, and ended up with 3 days ISS for injuring him. We both asked if the provocation was addressed and what punishment the boy received, and we were told by the principal that she could not confide that information. Of course the school rumor mill ran amock (sp?)... but my point is the whole privacy issue may prevent our special kids being exposed to the big picture and learning a bit of democratic justice, in this situation. I hope this isn't throwing a wet blanket on your victory, but I was > wondering if you are going to pursue any legal action. I would like > an example to made of those at fault so people are aware that they > need to act appropriately with children or there will be > consequences. Of course it is your decision. > > I am glad that justice prevailed and your son is in my prayers. > > Good luck, > > Debbie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 This has shown up on the Indy Star's message board. Apparently the charges were dropped. http://www2.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I know this post was a long time ago, I'm catching up, but this story brought me to tears. I just couldn't believe it and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. And your little boy and husband. How aweful! I hope all turned out ok. cyndy Roper <capricorn011557@...> wrote: I don't know how anyone else has responded, but I have been through this with my son several times in this area where I am living and in this school district. Each time the charges were dropped. The prosecuter said he cannot prosecute a case he cannot win because the child is not responsible for his actions due to his disabilities-namely asperger's autism. So don't fret over this too much. Get all of your medical records together, pshyc records and evals together, get a rep. from your area autism society or IMPACT agency to go with you to the hearing and talk to the prosecuter and I am sure this will be a horrible experience in History for you. God Bless, Cyndy --- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote: > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my > life. Our 10 year > old Asperger's son was at the after school program > at his school on > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after > school program, only > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W > and then T-F were > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school > program because I > don't have many days left to take off from work. By > the way, the > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son > is autistic. > > These bright people at the after school program > decide to do a pinata > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's > what a bunch of > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then > gobs of candy. > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until > they go home, they > just get to carry it around. > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took > my son's candy and > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but > she wouldn't give it > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the > time out, but not > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he > was upset. He was > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They > didn't listen. > > During this very short time out, he never got to > tell them what was > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back > from time out, he > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the > head with it and > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, > Aspie's are so literal > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on > them. They just > know they need to make it stop and they don't > usually ask for help. > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset > with him again and > When she approached him about it he was scared and > angry with her and > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the > back of his hand. > She called us to come pick him up and then she > called the school > police. The school police called the county > sheriff(which they say > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old > little boy. > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count > of disorderly > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. > The last 2 charges > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying > because he was > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and > kept him chained > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We > waited for 5 hours for > them to release him. When these other kids were > coming out > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy > in there crying. > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's > NEVER ok to hit, > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to > punish him > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate > to the point that > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year > old child! > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out > and put him in the > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see > that. > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the > same time, ever. The > probation officers at the juvenile facility said > none of them could > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer > was told he was > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention > it so the juvenile > facility didn't know until we told them! > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll > know Monday if they > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have > any ideas on how > we should proceed? > > This shameful incident occurred in n County > (Indianapolis) > Indiana. > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > Sherry > > > > > > > Cyndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Sherry. I just now read about what happened to your son. I am in tears. I would love to hear how everything turned out. Essenfeld <lessen@...> wrote: I know this post was a long time ago, I'm catching up, but this story brought me to tears. I just couldn't believe it and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. And your little boy and husband. How aweful! I hope all turned out ok. cyndy Roper <capricorn011557@...> wrote: I don't know how anyone else has responded, but I have been through this with my son several times in this area where I am living and in this school district. Each time the charges were dropped. The prosecuter said he cannot prosecute a case he cannot win because the child is not responsible for his actions due to his disabilities-namely asperger's autism. So don't fret over this too much. Get all of your medical records together, pshyc records and evals together, get a rep. from your area autism society or IMPACT agency to go with you to the hearing and talk to the prosecuter and I am sure this will be a horrible experience in History for you. God Bless, Cyndy --- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote: > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my > life. Our 10 year > old Asperger's son was at the after school program > at his school on > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after > school program, only > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W > and then T-F were > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school > program because I > don't have many days left to take off from work. By > the way, the > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son > is autistic. > > These bright people at the after school program > decide to do a pinata > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's > what a bunch of > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then > gobs of candy. > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until > they go home, they > just get to carry it around. > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took > my son's candy and > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but > she wouldn't give it > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the > time out, but not > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he > was upset. He was > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They > didn't listen. > > During this very short time out, he never got to > tell them what was > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back > from time out, he > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the > head with it and > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, > Aspie's are so literal > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on > them. They just > know they need to make it stop and they don't > usually ask for help. > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset > with him again and > When she approached him about it he was scared and > angry with her and > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the > back of his hand. > She called us to come pick him up and then she > called the school > police. The school police called the county > sheriff(which they say > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old > little boy. > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count > of disorderly > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. > The last 2 charges > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying > because he was > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and > kept him chained > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We > waited for 5 hours for > them to release him. When these other kids were > coming out > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy > in there crying. > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's > NEVER ok to hit, > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to > punish him > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate > to the point that > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year > old child! > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out > and put him in the > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see > that. > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the > same time, ever. The > probation officers at the juvenile facility said > none of them could > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer > was told he was > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention > it so the juvenile > facility didn't know until we told them! > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll > know Monday if they > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have > any ideas on how > we should proceed? > > This shameful incident occurred in n County > (Indianapolis) > Indiana. > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > Sherry > > > > > > > Cyndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 The charges were dropped. We did find out that it's against school district policy to have any child arrested due to their disability. It wasn't communicated out correctly to the schools or the school police. The superindentent actually called me personally to apologize and assure me this would never happen again. While I know this isn't happening now in our school district, we know it's happened recently in others. During the whole agonizing process I contacted many people for help including my State Representative - Mike . He was incredibily helpful. He was the one who found out that the charges had been dropped. I had been trying for days to get information, but he cut right through it all and got the information. I want to make it clear that he didn't pull strings, he just made a few calls to find out what the status was. He got the information sooner than I could have, and it really eased our minds. Well, on Wednesday of last week, he called me again out of the blue to tell me that a bill he sponsored, in part due to the trauma our son went through, just passed out of the house committee unanimously. This bill, HB 1428, will require all school police officers to have training in how to deal with austistic kids. I am so moved and profoundly grateful that a politician actually heard what happened and did something good about it! It still has to pass through the senate committee before it goes for a full vote and my representative said they may want me to testify. We've weighed our families need for privacy against the good this bill will do, and we can't wait to testify! If this can prevent even one other family from experiencing this trauma, it will be worth it. Thanks again to all for your prayers and help. Sherry > > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my > > life. Our 10 year > > old Asperger's son was at the after school program > > at his school on > > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after > > school program, only > > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W > > and then T-F were > > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school > > program because I > > don't have many days left to take off from work. By > > the way, the > > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son > > is autistic. > > > > These bright people at the after school program > > decide to do a pinata > > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's > > what a bunch of > > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then > > gobs of candy. > > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until > > they go home, they > > just get to carry it around. > > > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took > > my son's candy and > > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but > > she wouldn't give it > > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the > > time out, but not > > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he > > was upset. He was > > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They > > didn't listen. > > > > During this very short time out, he never got to > > tell them what was > > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back > > from time out, he > > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the > > head with it and > > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, > > Aspie's are so literal > > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on > > them. They just > > know they need to make it stop and they don't > > usually ask for help. > > > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset > > with him again and > > When she approached him about it he was scared and > > angry with her and > > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the > > back of his hand. > > She called us to come pick him up and then she > > called the school > > police. The school police called the county > > sheriff(which they say > > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old > > little boy. > > > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count > > of disorderly > > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. > > The last 2 charges > > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying > > because he was > > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and > > kept him chained > > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We > > waited for 5 hours for > > them to release him. When these other kids were > > coming out > > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy > > in there crying. > > > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's > > NEVER ok to hit, > > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to > > punish him > > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate > > to the point that > > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year > > old child! > > > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out > > and put him in the > > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see > > that. > > > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the > > same time, ever. The > > probation officers at the juvenile facility said > > none of them could > > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer > > was told he was > > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention > > it so the juvenile > > facility didn't know until we told them! > > > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll > > know Monday if they > > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have > > any ideas on how > > we should proceed? > > > > This shameful incident occurred in n County > > (Indianapolis) > > Indiana. > > > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cyndy > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Sherry, that is so awesome! Some good will come out of all this. Thanks for that information too & the update. Take care,Betty s1star <s1hudson@...> wrote: The charges were dropped. We did find out that it's against school district policy to have any child arrested due to their disability. It wasn't communicated out correctly to the schools or the school police. The superindentent actually called me personally to apologize and assure me this would never happen again. While I know this isn't happening now in our school district, we know it's happened recently in others. During the whole agonizing process I contacted many people for help including my State Representative - Mike . He was incredibily helpful. He was the one who found out that the charges had been dropped. I had been trying for days to get information, but he cut right through it all and got the information. I want to make it clear that he didn't pull strings, he just made a few calls to find out what the status was. He got the information sooner than I could have, and it really eased our minds. Well, on Wednesday of last week, he called me again out of the blue to tell me that a bill he sponsored, in part due to the trauma our son went through, just passed out of the house committee unanimously. This bill, HB 1428, will require all school police officers to have training in how to deal with austistic kids. I am so moved and profoundly grateful that a politician actually heard what happened and did something good about it! It still has to pass through the senate committee before it goes for a full vote and my representative said they may want me to testify. We've weighed our families need for privacy against the good this bill will do, and we can't wait to testify! If this can prevent even one other family from experiencing this trauma, it will be worth it. Thanks again to all for your prayers and help. Sherry > > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my > > life. Our 10 year > > old Asperger's son was at the after school program > > at his school on > > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after > > school program, only > > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W > > and then T-F were > > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school > > program because I > > don't have many days left to take off from work. By > > the way, the > > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son > > is autistic. > > > > These bright people at the after school program > > decide to do a pinata > > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's > > what a bunch of > > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then > > gobs of candy. > > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until > > they go home, they > > just get to carry it around. > > > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took > > my son's candy and > > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but > > she wouldn't give it > > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the > > time out, but not > > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he > > was upset. He was > > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They > > didn't listen. > > > > During this very short time out, he never got to > > tell them what was > > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back > > from time out, he > > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the > > head with it and > > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, > > Aspie's are so literal > > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on > > them. They just > > know they need to make it stop and they don't > > usually ask for help. > > > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset > > with him again and > > When she approached him about it he was scared and > > angry with her and > > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the > > back of his hand. > > She called us to come pick him up and then she > > called the school > > police. The school police called the county > > sheriff(which they say > > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old > > little boy. > > > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count > > of disorderly > > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. > > The last 2 charges > > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying > > because he was > > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and > > kept him chained > > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We > > waited for 5 hours for > > them to release him. When these other kids were > > coming out > > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy > > in there crying. > > > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's > > NEVER ok to hit, > > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to > > punish him > > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate > > to the point that > > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year > > old child! > > > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out > > and put him in the > > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see > > that. > > > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the > > same time, ever. The > > probation officers at the juvenile facility said > > none of them could > > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer > > was told he was > > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention > > it so the juvenile > > facility didn't know until we told them! > > > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll > > know Monday if they > > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have > > any ideas on how > > we should proceed? > > > > This shameful incident occurred in n County > > (Indianapolis) > > Indiana. > > > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cyndy > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Great news Sherry! Roxanna Re: ( ) 10 year old autistic arrested at school The charges were dropped. We did find out that it's against school district policy to have any child arrested due to their disability. It wasn't communicated out correctly to the schools or the school police. The superindentent actually called me personally to apologize and assure me this would never happen again. While I know this isn't happening now in our school district, we know it's happened recently in others. During the whole agonizing process I contacted many people for help including my State Representative - Mike . He was incredibily helpful. He was the one who found out that the charges had been dropped. I had been trying for days to get information, but he cut right through it all and got the information. I want to make it clear that he didn't pull strings, he just made a few calls to find out what the status was. He got the information sooner than I could have, and it really eased our minds. Well, on Wednesday of last week, he called me again out of the blue to tell me that a bill he sponsored, in part due to the trauma our son went through, just passed out of the house committee unanimously. This bill, HB 1428, will require all school police officers to have training in how to deal with austistic kids. I am so moved and profoundly grateful that a politician actually heard what happened and did something good about it! It still has to pass through the senate committee before it goes for a full vote and my representative said they may want me to testify. We've weighed our families need for privacy against the good this bill will do, and we can't wait to testify! If this can prevent even one other family from experiencing this trauma, it will be worth it. Thanks again to all for your prayers and help. Sherry > > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my > > life. Our 10 year > > old Asperger's son was at the after school program > > at his school on > > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after > > school program, only > > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W > > and then T-F were > > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school > > program because I > > don't have many days left to take off from work. By > > the way, the > > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son > > is autistic. > > > > These bright people at the after school program > > decide to do a pinata > > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's > > what a bunch of > > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then > > gobs of candy. > > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until > > they go home, they > > just get to carry it around. > > > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took > > my son's candy and > > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but > > she wouldn't give it > > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the > > time out, but not > > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he > > was upset. He was > > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They > > didn't listen. > > > > During this very short time out, he never got to > > tell them what was > > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back > > from time out, he > > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the > > head with it and > > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, > > Aspie's are so literal > > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on > > them. They just > > know they need to make it stop and they don't > > usually ask for help. > > > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset > > with him again and > > When she approached him about it he was scared and > > angry with her and > > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the > > back of his hand. > > She called us to come pick him up and then she > > called the school > > police. The school police called the county > > sheriff(which they say > > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old > > little boy. > > > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count > > of disorderly > > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. > > The last 2 charges > > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying > > because he was > > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and > > kept him chained > > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We > > waited for 5 hours for > > them to release him. When these other kids were > > coming out > > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy > > in there crying. > > > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's > > NEVER ok to hit, > > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to > > punish him > > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate > > to the point that > > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year > > old child! > > > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out > > and put him in the > > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see > > that. > > > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the > > same time, ever. The > > probation officers at the juvenile facility said > > none of them could > > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer > > was told he was > > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention > > it so the juvenile > > facility didn't know until we told them! > > > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll > > know Monday if they > > intend to drop the charges or proceed. > > > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have > > any ideas on how > > we should proceed? > > > > This shameful incident occurred in n County > > (Indianapolis) > > Indiana. > > > > Thank you for listening to my long story. > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cyndy > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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