Re: IEP mtg/school district not wanting to re-evlauate

[Guest guest]

If you as a parent request a re-evaluation after a 3 year period and the

school district refuses...get it in writing and take them to mediation. I

would

be willing to be that re-evaluation would be done real quick. Pam

[Guest guest]

;

I have to admit that up here the schools have been

extremely supportive of everything we have asked, and

have really worked hard with us to continually

re-evalute our son. I can, however, draw on the

experience of how we've handled problems with our

other children.

Sometimes getting your facts together and requesting

arbitration of their decision works - sometimes,

however it does not and it wastes a lot of time.

In the past, I have always used money to get my way.

Remember, the schools get a certain amount of money

for each child in attendance - to that end, I've

threatened before to pull my child out and go to a

different school that will meet my needs. I've shown

them how much money they would lose out on, and then

also presented how much what I am asking them for will

cost. 9 times out of 10, this usually gets my way -

or at least forces them to explain to me in terms that

I can accept, why a certain decision was made.

Honestly, it's a bluff tactic, but if you speak with

the superintendant and are serious enough about it,

you will get your way.

Anyway - good luck with that!

--- Reid <hskrgrl0605@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone!

>

> I don't post too often however I am at a despirate

> hour. I've got an

> IEP meeting coming real soon and have not been given

> any indication

> that the school district is going to re-evaluate my

> son. Last time he

> was tested was when he was three years old. He is

> now six. We've

> asked for a re-evaluation in the past and they've

> asked us " why, when

> the IEP is based on cirriculum and what tests should

> we use? " . I am

> well versed on the federal law, however I am looking

> for solid advice

> on how to deal with the school district.

>

> Thank you!

> Reid

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/22/2006 9:13:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

grep_boy@... writes:

Sometimes getting your facts together and requesting

arbitration of their decision works - sometimes,

however it does not and it wastes a lot of time.

Re-evaluations every three years per parental or teacher request is the law.

Getting the refusal in writing and then filing for mediation has just as

good a chance of getting the re-evaluation followed through on as does

threatening to pull a child out of a school and assumming that the school

department

will pay for a different school. There is no guarantee in that either. Pam

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

re-evlauate

;

I have to admit that up here the schools have been

extremely supportive of everything we have asked, and

have really worked hard with us to continually

re-evalute our son. I can, however, draw on the

experience of how we've handled problems with our

other children.

Sometimes getting your facts together and requesting

arbitration of their decision works - sometimes,

however it does not and it wastes a lot of time.

In the past, I have always used money to get my way.

Remember, the schools get a certain amount of money

for each child in attendance - to that end, I've

threatened before to pull my child out and go to a

different school that will meet my needs. I've shown

them how much money they would lose out on, and then

also presented how much what I am asking them for will

cost. 9 times out of 10, this usually gets my way -

or at least forces them to explain to me in terms that

I can accept, why a certain decision was made.

Honestly, it's a bluff tactic, but if you speak with

the superintendant and are serious enough about it,

you will get your way.

Anyway - good luck with that!

Please do not bluff to get your way. Unless you also have money to buy your

way in to another school, you shouldn't threaten to do that. If the school

balks, you are in deep and will no longer be taken seriously at all about

anything. Be able to back up what you say and this will give you the

confidence to prove your points.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Subject: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

re-evlauate

Hello everyone!

I don't post too often however I am at a despirate hour. I've got an

IEP meeting coming real soon and have not been given any indication

that the school district is going to re-evaluate my son. Last time he

was tested was when he was three years old. He is now six. We've

asked for a re-evaluation in the past and they've asked us " why, when

the IEP is based on cirriculum and what tests should we use? " . I am

well versed on the federal law, however I am looking for solid advice

on how to deal with the school district.

Thank you!

Reid

The school has to re-evaluate every three years if you request it. So

request that they do so in writing. If they have no clue what testing to

do, then say " fine, refer me to an independent outside resource who CAN do a

proper multi-factored evaluation. "

What kinds of tests you want are a variety of evaluations depending upon the

needs of your child. You probably would consider IQ testing as well as

achievement testing. Not state standardized testing or curriculum testing

but rather something like woodcock . You would probably ask for

speech evaluation, including pragmatics as well as OT eval that covers fine

motor, handwriting and sensory. If you child has any other specific areas

of concern you would request that they test in that area with a good test

for that sort of issue. You can always find names on the net if you do a

search.

Definitely write a letter with your request. CC copies to everyone up the

food chain. Give them a date to respond by and expect to hear results. I

would be nice at first but definitely get a paper trail to document

everything that is being said and refused.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Aren't they *required* to test every three years? In our district, they

test every three years, like clockwork, whether you request it or not.

You have to sign off on it (give permission). I don't know if this is a

California thing or a San Diego thing.

Liz

On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Roxanna wrote:

> Subject: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

> re-evlauate

>

> Hello everyone!

>

> I don't post too often however I am at a despirate hour. I've got an

> IEP meeting coming real soon and have not been given any indication

> that the school district is going to re-evaluate my son. Last time he

> was tested was when he was three years old. He is now six. We've

> asked for a re-evaluation in the past and they've asked us " why, when

> the IEP is based on cirriculum and what tests should we use? " . I am

> well versed on the federal law, however I am looking for solid advice

> on how to deal with the school district.

>

> Thank you!

> Reid

>

>

> The school has to re-evaluate every three years if you request it. So

> request that they do so in writing. If they have no clue what

> testing to

> do, then say " fine, refer me to an independent outside resource who

> CAN do a

> proper multi-factored evaluation. "

>

> What kinds of tests you want are a variety of evaluations depending

> upon the

> needs of your child. You probably would consider IQ testing as well as

> achievement testing. Not state standardized testing or curriculum

> testing

> but rather something like woodcock . You would probably ask for

> speech evaluation, including pragmatics as well as OT eval that covers

> fine

> motor, handwriting and sensory. If you child has any other specific

> areas

> of concern you would request that they test in that area with a good

> test

> for that sort of issue. You can always find names on the net if you

> do a

> search.

>

> Definitely write a letter with your request. CC copies to everyone up

> the

> food chain. Give them a date to respond by and expect to hear

> results. I

> would be nice at first but definitely get a paper trail to document

> everything that is being said and refused.

>

> Roxanna

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The districts are no longer " required " to evaluate every three

years...unless it is requested or " deemed " neccessary by the team or parent.

Procedures for reevaluations.

An LEA must ensure that a reevaluation for each child with a disability is

conducted in accordance with Sections 614( and 614© if:

* The LEA determines that the educational or related services needs,

including improved academic achievement and functional performance, of the

child warrant a reevaluation; or

* The child’s parents or teacher requests a reevaluation.

However, a reevaluation shall occur not more frequently than once a year,

unless the parent and the LEA agree otherwise; and at least once every three

years, unless the parent and the LEA agree that a reevaluation is unnecessary.

[614(a)(2)]

[Guest guest]

Our experience has been that we have to push for whatever we want,

regardless...wish us luck!

>

> > Subject: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

> > re-evlauate

> >

> > Hello everyone!

> >

> > I don't post too often however I am at a despirate hour. I've

got an

> > IEP meeting coming real soon and have not been given any

indication

> > that the school district is going to re-evaluate my son. Last

time he

> > was tested was when he was three years old. He is now six. We've

> > asked for a re-evaluation in the past and they've asked us " why,

when

> > the IEP is based on cirriculum and what tests should we use? " . I

am

> > well versed on the federal law, however I am looking for solid

advice

> > on how to deal with the school district.

> >

> > Thank you!

> > Reid

> >

> >

> > The school has to re-evaluate every three years if you request

it. So

> > request that they do so in writing. If they have no clue what

> > testing to

> > do, then say " fine, refer me to an independent outside resource

who

> > CAN do a

> > proper multi-factored evaluation. "

> >

> > What kinds of tests you want are a variety of evaluations

depending

> > upon the

> > needs of your child. You probably would consider IQ testing as

well as

> > achievement testing. Not state standardized testing or

curriculum

> > testing

> > but rather something like woodcock . You would probably

ask for

> > speech evaluation, including pragmatics as well as OT eval that

covers

> > fine

> > motor, handwriting and sensory. If you child has any other

specific

> > areas

> > of concern you would request that they test in that area with a

good

> > test

> > for that sort of issue. You can always find names on the net if

you

> > do a

> > search.

> >

> > Definitely write a letter with your request. CC copies to

everyone up

> > the

> > food chain. Give them a date to respond by and expect to hear

> > results. I

> > would be nice at first but definitely get a paper trail to

document

> > everything that is being said and refused.

> >

> > Roxanna

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Roxanna -

Thanks for your support - wish us luck!

>

> Subject: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

> re-evlauate

>

> Hello everyone!

>

> I don't post too often however I am at a despirate hour. I've got

an

> IEP meeting coming real soon and have not been given any indication

> that the school district is going to re-evaluate my son. Last time

he

> was tested was when he was three years old. He is now six. We've

> asked for a re-evaluation in the past and they've asked us " why,

when

> the IEP is based on cirriculum and what tests should we use? " . I

am

> well versed on the federal law, however I am looking for solid

advice

> on how to deal with the school district.

>

> Thank you!

> Reid

>

>

> The school has to re-evaluate every three years if you request it.

So

> request that they do so in writing. If they have no clue what

testing to

> do, then say " fine, refer me to an independent outside resource who

CAN do a

> proper multi-factored evaluation. "

>

> What kinds of tests you want are a variety of evaluations depending

upon the

> needs of your child. You probably would consider IQ testing as

well as

> achievement testing. Not state standardized testing or curriculum

testing

> but rather something like woodcock . You would probably ask

for

> speech evaluation, including pragmatics as well as OT eval that

covers fine

> motor, handwriting and sensory. If you child has any other

specific areas

> of concern you would request that they test in that area with a

good test

> for that sort of issue. You can always find names on the net if

you do a

> search.

>

> Definitely write a letter with your request. CC copies to everyone

up the

> food chain. Give them a date to respond by and expect to hear

results. I

> would be nice at first but definitely get a paper trail to document

> everything that is being said and refused.

>

> Roxanna

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your advise! Wish us luck!!

>

>

> In a message dated 4/22/2006 9:13:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> grep_boy@... writes:

>

>

> Sometimes getting your facts together and requesting

> arbitration of their decision works - sometimes,

> however it does not and it wastes a lot of time.

>

>

>

> Re-evaluations every three years per parental or teacher request is

the law.

> Getting the refusal in writing and then filing for mediation has

just as

> good a chance of getting the re-evaluation followed through on as

does

> threatening to pull a child out of a school and assumming that the

school department

> will pay for a different school. There is no guarantee in that

either. Pam

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks - one would think that, in the best interest of the child, a

re-evaluation would be automatically conducted in order to " stay on

target " with the childs current level. My child has gained more

progress by attending a special needs " pre-school " rather than the

public school.

>

> The districts are no longer " required " to evaluate every three

> years...unless it is requested or " deemed " neccessary by the team

or parent.

>

>

> Procedures for reevaluations.

> An LEA must ensure that a reevaluation for each child with a

disability is

> conducted in accordance with Sections 614( and 614© if:

> * The LEA determines that the educational or related

services needs,

> including improved academic achievement and functional

performance, of the

> child warrant a reevaluation; or

> * The child’s parents or teacher requests a reevaluation.

> However, a reevaluation shall occur not more frequently than once

a year,

> unless the parent and the LEA agree otherwise; and at least once

every three

> years, unless the parent and the LEA agree that a reevaluation is

unnecessary.

> [614(a)(2)]

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In the new IDEA 2004 regulations, school districts are no longer " REQUIRED "

to test students with disabilities every three years. Parents and teachers

(IEP team members) can still request the testing be done, but it is no longer

mandatory. Pam

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

re-evlauate

Aren't they *required* to test every three years? In our district, they

test every three years, like clockwork, whether you request it or not.

You have to sign off on it (give permission). I don't know if this is a

California thing or a San Diego thing.

Liz

Liz,

They don't have to, as Pam wrote earlier. I imagine most do it anyway, just

to check current levels. But sometimes they don't want to do it. For

example, when Royce was in 5th grade, he was due for his 3 year eval and

they didn't want to do it. They said they agreed he needed to be in sped so

there was no need to do this. I disagreed and they did one. But it isn't

just a California thing.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

It is a federal thing. In Texas, schools have the right to do what is called a

triennial

review. That means that everyone sits down and discusses the childs current

levels in

and out of school. They discuss any changes in the last 3 years and they

discuss the

childs needs. If everyone agrees that there is no need to do more testing, than

the

child simply stays in special ed and the ARD meeting is held. If there is

something that

seems out of the ordinary, then testing in just one area can be done instead of

all the

tests being done. It makes it easier on the schools but also, I think, on the

kids

because they don't spend days taking tests they don't need. I have never had

any

problems with it in the 7 years my kids have been in special ed. But like all

special ed

laws, they are only as good as the school that follows them.

Have a great day,

LaRae

>

> Subject: Re: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

> re-evlauate

>

> Aren't they *required* to test every three years? In our district, they

> test every three years, like clockwork, whether you request it or not.

> You have to sign off on it (give permission). I don't know if this is a

> California thing or a San Diego thing.

>

> Liz

>

>

> Liz,

> They don't have to, as Pam wrote earlier. I imagine most do it anyway, just

> to check current levels. But sometimes they don't want to do it. For

> example, when Royce was in 5th grade, he was due for his 3 year eval and

> they didn't want to do it. They said they agreed he needed to be in sped so

> there was no need to do this. I disagreed and they did one. But it isn't

> just a California thing.

>

> Roxanna

>

>

[Guest guest]

Subject: RE: ( ) IEP mtg/school district not wanting to

re-evlauate

It is a federal thing. In Texas, schools have the right to do what is

called a triennial

review. That means that everyone sits down and discusses the childs current

levels in

and out of school. They discuss any changes in the last 3 years and they

discuss the

childs needs. If everyone agrees that there is no need to do more testing,

than the

child simply stays in special ed and the ARD meeting is held. If there is

something that

seems out of the ordinary, then testing in just one area can be done instead

of all the

tests being done. It makes it easier on the schools but also, I think, on

the kids

because they don't spend days taking tests they don't need. I have never

had any

problems with it in the 7 years my kids have been in special ed. But like

all special ed

laws, they are only as good as the school that follows them.

Have a great day,

LaRae

*** Please all consider this: If your child has had " no changes " in 3 years

time, then I would suggest the program he/she is in is a total failure! Get

the evaluation and compare to the last evaluation. What has changed? What

subtest scores have improved? If nothing has improved, then they need a

serious revamping of the program they are in.

Roxanna