Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Posted October 16, 2006 Tics, which are common in spectrum kids. Or, is he on any of the atypical antipsychotics? They can cause facial/tongue movements as a side effect...... ( ) facial contortions I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? Beck Quote
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Posted October 16, 2006 Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette.htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Posted October 17, 2006 There does seem to be a connection with Tourettes and Autism... Seems its the same area of the brain and many who have autism ..also have someone in their family connection with Tourettes. Good call Chris -- ( ) Re: facial contortions Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette.htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 yes I have thought of Tourettes but he seems to be able to control the facial expressions. He certainly does it worse when he is anxious or trying to avoid listening to us. And when he is tired. i think it is subconscious to a certain degree too. Beck ( ) Re: facial contortions Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette.htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 No he isn't on any medication at all. ( ) facial contortions I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? Beck Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Beck, I still wouldn't rule out Tourette's. Anxiety can make tics worse. My son (17) developed OCD at around age 11.5. Nightmare that first year. Anyway, at one point he was doing this " facial " stuff, and I began to wonder about possible tics. Really, one way to describe this - and forgive me all as I don't mean to offend anyone - is that he looked like his intelligence level had dropped 40 points. I actually worried his mind was going too. It went away after a while, as did a lot of his compulsions that OCD made him do. But while doing them due to OCD, he couldn't *not* do them, if you know what I mean. I've read from others who actually have tics that the feeling is similar with OCD and actual tics. Sort of like an itch you have to scratch, though involuntary with TS. I still wonder at times if they might have been tics. One other thing that came to mind as a possibility - a type of seizure. Anxiety/stress can bring those on. There's a multitude of different type seizures. Sometimes what someone else thinks is just a person " spacing out " , not paying attention/listening, is actually a type of seizure, for example. I'm just guessing at things here. yes I have thought of Tourettes but he seems to be able to control the facial expressions. He certainly does it worse when he is anxious or trying to avoid listening to us. And when he is tired. i think it is subconscious to a certain degree too. > Beck Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 It sounds like Tourettes to me. That sort of blinking is a sure sign but I would take him to be diagnosed by a professional to find out. ( ) Re: facial contortions > > > Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? > > http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette.htm > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was > having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his > mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was > doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse > when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well > why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he > controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it > happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > > Beck > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 My son does the same thing. He has tics when he is concerned or worried about something. He is also has OCD and is being tested at Children's Hospital at the O'Leary center for either autism or Aspergers. <@...> wrote: Beck, I still wouldn't rule out Tourette's. Anxiety can make tics worse. My son (17) developed OCD at around age 11.5. Nightmare that first year. Anyway, at one point he was doing this " facial " stuff, and I began to wonder about possible tics. Really, one way to describe this - and forgive me all as I don't mean to offend anyone - is that he looked like his intelligence level had dropped 40 points. I actually worried his mind was going too. It went away after a while, as did a lot of his compulsions that OCD made him do. But while doing them due to OCD, he couldn't *not* do them, if you know what I mean. I've read from others who actually have tics that the feeling is similar with OCD and actual tics. Sort of like an itch you have to scratch, though involuntary with TS. I still wonder at times if they might have been tics. One other thing that came to mind as a possibility - a type of seizure. Anxiety/stress can bring those on. There's a multitude of different type seizures. Sometimes what someone else thinks is just a person " spacing out " , not paying attention/listening, is actually a type of seizure, for example. I'm just guessing at things here. yes I have thought of Tourettes but he seems to be able to control the facial expressions. He certainly does it worse when he is anxious or trying to avoid listening to us. And when he is tired. i think it is subconscious to a certain degree too. > Beck --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 You should see a neurologist. He/she can help you figure out what it is. Just from your email it sound like tourettes (TS). But a doctor could figure out if it's that or something else going on. Roxanna ( ) facial contortions I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? Beck Quote
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 It's funny you should mention it actually becuase the faces my son pulls look exactly like you are describing. The kind of face kids pull when they are pretending to have mental health problems. Again it's hard to describe without feeling that you are offending people, sorry. Beck ( ) Re: facial contortions Beck, I still wouldn't rule out Tourette's. Anxiety can make tics worse. My son (17) developed OCD at around age 11.5. Nightmare that first year. Anyway, at one point he was doing this " facial " stuff, and I began to wonder about possible tics. Really, one way to describe this - and forgive me all as I don't mean to offend anyone - is that he looked like his intelligence level had dropped 40 points. I actually worried his mind was going too. It went away after a while, as did a lot of his compulsions that OCD made him do. But while doing them due to OCD, he couldn't *not* do them, if you know what I mean. I've read from others who actually have tics that the feeling is similar with OCD and actual tics. Sort of like an itch you have to scratch, though involuntary with TS. I still wonder at times if they might have been tics. One other thing that came to mind as a possibility - a type of seizure. Anxiety/stress can bring those on. There's a multitude of different type seizures. Sometimes what someone else thinks is just a person " spacing out " , not paying attention/listening, is actually a type of seizure, for example. I'm just guessing at things here. yes I have thought of Tourettes but he seems to be able to control the facial expressions. He certainly does it worse when he is anxious or trying to avoid listening to us. And when he is tired. i think it is subconscious to a certain degree too. > Beck Quote
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 Go to http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette_primer.htm This site is awesome. And in this site, explains the following, " Tics are generally understood to be " involuntary " or " unvoluntary. " The latter term may be more consistent with the experiences of adults with TS who report that on some level, they feel like they are choosing to release the tics or " let them out. " The majority of adults in one sample described their tics as a " voluntary response " to an " involuntary sensation. " This should not be misinterpreted to mean that tics are voluntary, however, as most children and adults find that even when they can suppress tics for a while (and not all children or teenagers can do this), the tics " have to come out " sooner or later. " Roxanna ( ) Re: facial contortions Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette.htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 Hi, I'm new to this group. I have a 3yr old who will be going for assessment on Nov 6 and 7. I have tourette's syndrome. Have a mild case, but i can totally relate to the voluntary and involuntary tics. When I am extremely tired or in a very stressful situation I have a hard time controlling my tics. However, with bad experiences with the medicines, I have learned relaxation techniques. I can now control most of my most prominent tics by relaxation. Not everyone has it to the extreme of the woman on Deuce Bigalows movie. LOL. ( ) Re: facial contortions Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourette syndrome. net/tourette. htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 , I am not sure if my sons problem is tourettes or not. He seems able to control the contortions to a certain extent. He also blinks alot when he is over tired. He also has an uncontrollable shake in his hands when he is concentrating, nervous or excited. Could this be part or Tourette's? Beck ( ) Re: facial contortions Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourette syndrome. net/tourette. htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 Mark, I'm not quite sure about the hand twitching. One of my " symptoms " is that I jerk my arm out. Kinda like I'm trying to pop my elbow. But a web site I found stated facial contortions as a symptom. I just recently found out that TS is related to ADHD. Didnt know that. Maybe these web sites can be a little more help than me. Sorry. http://members.tripod.com/~tourette13/ http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/tourette/detail_tourette.hth#toc. ( ) Re: facial contortions Have you looked at Tourette's Syndrome? http://www.tourette syndrome. net/tourette. htm > > I was just wondering if any of you have any advice on this.... > > My son originally started pulling faces years ago when he was having an episode of mutism. He would roll his eyes back, twist his mouth around and protrude his tounge out. I used to think he was doing it on purpose but lately it's become much worse. It's worse when he is tired or stressed out. And now he makes noises as well why he is doing it. I am strating to think it is not something he controls. It nows happens when we are out in public and I noticed it happening at kinder yesterday too. Any suggestions? > Beck > > Quote
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