Re: RE: (Aspergers Support)

[Guest guest]

Hi!

First of all, I feel for you! This is a hard

situation.

It sounds like you had some tough choices to make.

Your question about outbursts: my nephew is 9, and

he's HUGE for nine. He's over 100 lbs., and he's tall.

He's my size (I'm a short woman). When he gets angry,

he physically pushes or throws things, and his Dad (my

brother-in-law) holds him until he calms down. But, it

scares me because my brother-in-law is the only one in

his family large and strong enough to do this. If Raif

gets angry and has an outburst when his Dad isn't

around, I'm not sure what happens. He's not on any

medication, currently.

I'm not sure if this is common of Aspberger's, but it

is of autism, of which he has (moderate to low

functioning).

- Adrienne

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> Hi

>

> I am new to this forum, I am a single mom with 2

> boys 17 and 12, my 12 year

> old was diagnosed 3 years ago with AS.

>

> However in the last 3 years I could not find any

> help for him or for me. In

> that time he has declined to such a degree that I

> finally had to place him

> in a residential placement in that last 2 weeks.

> This is a temporary

> situation for us, it is my hope that they will help

> to train him to handle

> the outside world.

>

> My son is very bright and articulate but he can not

> handle life in the

> outside. School is a mystery; restaurants and

> shopping are a nightmare. I

> was at my wits ends and I had run out of places to

> turn.

>

> He is a big boy now, 5'8 " and 150 lbs. What is was

> wondering if anyone else

> was having the violent outbursts? Brad was having

> them everyday, over

> everything. I never knew what would set him off,

> one day it would be teeth

> brushing and the next day dinner. They were always

> exhausting and they

> become overwhelming to my older son and me. Finally

> he hit me and hurt me

> pretty badly. and that was the last scare, I finally

> had to call in for

> help. I miss my baby so much but I also knew that I

> was out of my element

> in helping him.

>

> Is this behavior odd for AS?

>

> Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

First of all, I am so sorry you are having to go through this. I

understand your dilemma. I recently had to admit my son a to a

psychiatric unit for a few days as his episodes were getting scary. He

too had violent outbursts and numerous meltdowns. While meltdowns in

general are found in Aspergers alone, it turned out that my son also

had Mood Disorder NOS (much like pediatric Bipolar) and putting him on

Risperdal for the violent outbursts and manic episodes has made a world

of difference. He has been on it for about 2 1/2 months now and hasn't

had a single meltdown in over two months (compared to 2-4 a day before).

I would suggest getting a full psychological work-up for your son as

co-morbid psychiatric disorders are more common for AS/Autistic kids

than for the general population. Luckily, your son is old enough for

counseling to be at least partially helpful but since these are

neurological problems we are talking about, it will not " fix " anything.

My son is 9 and is going to counseling but I have been told it won't do

anything to help him at all, we're just doing it, just in case. I hope

and pray you and your son find the help and the answers you need and

wish you the best of luck.

Take care,

Tabitha

( ) RE: (Aspergers Support)

Hi

I am new to this forum, I am a single mom with 2 boys 17 and 12, my 12

year

old was diagnosed 3 years ago with AS.

However in the last 3 years I could not find any help for him or for me.

In

that time he has declined to such a degree that I finally had to place

him

in a residential placement in that last 2 weeks. This is a temporary

situation for us, it is my hope that they will help to train him to

handle

the outside world.

My son is very bright and articulate but he can not handle life in the

outside. School is a mystery; restaurants and shopping are a nightmare.

I

was at my wits ends and I had run out of places to turn.

He is a big boy now, 5'8 " and 150 lbs. What is was wondering if anyone

else

was having the violent outbursts? Brad was having them everyday, over

everything. I never knew what would set him off, one day it would be

teeth

brushing and the next day dinner. They were always exhausting and they

become overwhelming to my older son and me. Finally he hit me and hurt

me

pretty badly. and that was the last scare, I finally had to call in for

help. I miss my baby so much but I also knew that I was out of my

element

in helping him.

Is this behavior odd for AS?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/20/2006 10:31:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

etay58@... writes:

Is this behavior odd for AS?

I think that for some children with AS angry outbursts are common...other

children diagnosed don't exhibit them. I have a now 15 year old son with

Asperger's that had a very hard time with angry outbursts from ages 10 - 14. He

would get physical at school and home and we even had to involve the police at

one point. After puberty he seemed to settle down a bit. He gets angry

now, but does not carry on physically...it is more of a verbal meltdown. Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have a 13 year old son with aspergers also. He has never been physically

violent but he is always very short tempered. He yells and screams and

sometimes if he is really angry he will throw something or break something (so

far nothing serious or expensive) He is fine in public except when he feels

like you are bothering him. He is easily annoyed. I think what you are

describing about your son is from the AS. We are currently looking into meds to

help my son cope with life and make him less angry. Hope this helps.

Joan

<etay58@...> wrote:

Hi

I am new to this forum, I am a single mom with 2 boys 17 and 12, my 12 year

old was diagnosed 3 years ago with AS.

However in the last 3 years I could not find any help for him or for me. In

that time he has declined to such a degree that I finally had to place him

in a residential placement in that last 2 weeks. This is a temporary

situation for us, it is my hope that they will help to train him to handle

the outside world.

My son is very bright and articulate but he can not handle life in the

outside. School is a mystery; restaurants and shopping are a nightmare. I

was at my wits ends and I had run out of places to turn.

He is a big boy now, 5'8 " and 150 lbs. What is was wondering if anyone else

was having the violent outbursts? Brad was having them everyday, over

everything. I never knew what would set him off, one day it would be teeth

brushing and the next day dinner. They were always exhausting and they

become overwhelming to my older son and me. Finally he hit me and hurt me

pretty badly. and that was the last scare, I finally had to call in for

help. I miss my baby so much but I also knew that I was out of my element

in helping him.

Is this behavior odd for AS?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi ! I have 17 yo twin boys diagnosed with aspergers LAST year. One

of them ( has violent outbursts ALOT> I feel like I am walking on egg

shells everyday. Last year he was saying he was going to kill himself

(he has depression too) and would hold a knife to his stomach. He was

also threatening me when my husband was out of town on a trip. It got so

bad where he was threatening me and himself and REFUSING to go to school

that I took both of them to the sheriffs office one day and told them

they were both threatening suicide. Noah just happened to say it one

time that horrible day and I had had ENOUGH! No power, no control for

me. They are about 6'1 " and had no fear respect, anything for me. I was

to blame for everything that went on around here according to them. My

husband is an airline pilot and would be gone 2 weeks or more at a

time.The inmates ran the prison when he was gone. It was horrible.

Anyway, I took them to the sheriffs office and they escorted us to the

emergency room and the Dr sent both of them to the state mental hosp

which happens to be 13 miles from our house. They took them off in

handcuffs and leg irons. It was the worst to see my 'babies' carted off

like criminals. They sent Noah home later that night and kept n 5

days. BUT, that incident got us to a new pyschiatrist that diagnosed

them with aspergers within 10 minutes of our being in the office. We

have just put n on risperdal because he has terrible depression

and risperdal is said to help with violent outbursts. He has only been

on it since last month so I can't see too much difference yet. However,

he has not cut my couch with a knife, torn up his calculator, physically

threatened " me', although he has threatened himself once. But I know

what you are going through. It is awful never knowing what will set them

off. n also had a COMPLETE meltdown every time we had to go to the

dr. He kicked out my a/c vent in my car and threw it in the parking lot,

cussed me at the top of his lungs and threatened to walk home a couple

of months ago at the dr office. ( the dr he adores and trusts) SO the dr

gave him a 'chill pill' that melts in his mouth for such occasions as dr

appts, dentist etc where he just loses it.It is a small dose .5 mg for

a kid that weighs 130 lbs. It was wonderful last time we went. n

took his chill pill and kinda relaxed and even talked to the dr alot

about how he was feeling. Which was unusual too.Don't beat yourself up

for having to do what you did. Hopefully, like our situation it will be

best in the long run for YOU and your son's, especially your 12 yo. I

wish you all the luck and you may email me to vent anytime you feel like

it.I know how hard it is, believe me, I have wanted to pack my bags and

LEAVE home. Although I know it won't solve anything, I felt so hopeless,

helpless and ineffective as a mom with all that going on. Best of luck

to you and all the other moms and dads out there fighting for our

children. Toni

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> Hi

>

> I am new to this forum, I am a single mom with 2 boys 17 and 12, my 12

> year

> old was diagnosed 3 years ago with AS.

>

> However in the last 3 years I could not find any help for him or for

> me. In

> that time he has declined to such a degree that I finally had to place him

> in a residential placement in that last 2 weeks. This is a temporary

> situation for us, it is my hope that they will help to train him to handle

> the outside world.

>

> My son is very bright and articulate but he can not handle life in the

> outside. School is a mystery; restaurants and shopping are a

> nightmare. I

> was at my wits ends and I had run out of places to turn.

>

> He is a big boy now, 5'8 " and 150 lbs. What is was wondering if

> anyone else

> was having the violent outbursts? Brad was having them everyday, over

> everything. I never knew what would set him off, one day it would be

> teeth

> brushing and the next day dinner. They were always exhausting and they

> become overwhelming to my older son and me. Finally he hit me and hurt me

> pretty badly. and that was the last scare, I finally had to call in for

> help. I miss my baby so much but I also knew that I was out of my element

> in helping him.

>

> Is this behavior odd for AS?

>

> Thanks

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I have not experienced what you are experiencing. I just wanted to send you a

hug.

<etay58@...> wrote:

Hi

I am new to this forum, I am a single mom with 2 boys 17 and 12, my 12 year

old was diagnosed 3 years ago with AS.

However in the last 3 years I could not find any help for him or for me. In

that time he has declined to such a degree that I finally had to place him

in a residential placement in that last 2 weeks. This is a temporary

situation for us, it is my hope that they will help to train him to handle

the outside world.

My son is very bright and articulate but he can not handle life in the

outside. School is a mystery; restaurants and shopping are a nightmare. I

was at my wits ends and I had run out of places to turn.

He is a big boy now, 5'8 " and 150 lbs. What is was wondering if anyone else

was having the violent outbursts? Brad was having them everyday, over

everything. I never knew what would set him off, one day it would be teeth

brushing and the next day dinner. They were always exhausting and they

become overwhelming to my older son and me. Finally he hit me and hurt me

pretty badly. and that was the last scare, I finally had to call in for

help. I miss my baby so much but I also knew that I was out of my element

in helping him.

Is this behavior odd for AS?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Oh wow, violent outbursts are a daily activity here -- totally not odd

behavior for some kids on the spectrum. My son's only 5, so he's only 36

lbs but he is a wiry 36 lbs and he can give you a noseblood, kick your

glasses across the room or headbutt you pretty nasty. And watch out if

he bites. We're working with a behaviorist, really trying to get rid of

this, or at least calm it down, before he gets so big he'll hurt us

worse. Sometimes we can plan ahead, knowing something will upset him,

other times, who knows. I wish I had a good answer for you, but I think

it's fairly common.

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> He is a big boy now, 5'8 " and 150 lbs. What is was wondering if anyone else

> was having the violent outbursts? Brad was having them everyday, over

> everything. I never knew what would set him off, one day it would be teeth

> brushing and the next day dinner. They were always exhausting and they

> become overwhelming to my older son and me. Finally he hit me and hurt me

> pretty badly. and that was the last scare, I finally had to call in for

> help. I miss my baby so much but I also knew that I was out of my element

> in helping him.

>

> Is this behavior odd for AS?

>

>