Guest guest Posted April 27, 1999 Report Share Posted April 27, 1999 This is the part I hate most. The medication. My daughter was put on Prozac and Trazadone when she was 4. It worked for about 6 months, Risperdal was added and 4 months later she was switched to Zoloft. She has been on Zoloft for a little over a year and has recently become very aggressive, angry, definitely not the little girl she was. Now she is starting Luvox and Buspar and I and I can tell a difference for now.... what is next? I must say though that after each trial of medication, once the honeymoon period is over she becomes agressive and angry. Obviously they all have different effects on each kid. This just is really tiring in my opinion. j.monnens@... wrote: > From: j.monnens@... > > In response to Allie regarding Luvox. My 10 yo son was put on Luvox for > his OCD and responded pretty well initially. However, after a couple > months he became very agressive and oppositional -- very atypical behavior > for him. He was switched to Prozac and seems to do well on that. However, > as with anything else, your mileage may vary. > > Sheree wrote: > Do you parents out there ever feel that > it seems as if whenever your child seems to be doing well, thats when all > of > sudden their ocd is out of control? I can write on this list one day that > my > child is doing well and then the next week, it is the exact opposite. > > I feel this way ALL the time. As soon as I say Aiden is doing better, > another crisis erupts. I have become cautious about saying much of > anything. And it does seem that as soon as once obsession or compulsion > lessens, another rears up to take its place. I find it so reassuring to > know there are so many others out there, even though we are separated > geographically. > > Jule in Cleveland, OH > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! > 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, > gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! > /ad/shoptheglobe5 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The is sponsored by the OCSDA. You may visit their web site at http://www.ocdhelp.org/ and view schedules for chatroom support at http://www.ocdhelp.org/chat.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Hello everyone, What a week. I feel so sad after weeks like this when I feel as if half the children in the world have huge problems and none of them get the help they need. Reading J.'s reports on Tommy make me feel both sad and happy that at least they are getting some help - but it always seems to be two steps backward, one step forward... So, on the home front - Annie has started picking at her scalp until it bleeds, and then picking at the scabs and then... you get the picture. She insists it's going away, but yesterday she came down in the a.m. with her head a bloody mess. Sigh. And today she and her best friend had a huge fight, which i guess has been simmering all week (hence the sudden upswing in OCD probably). So she is a mess, and very very sad. Then I found out today that my neighbor's 16 yr. old had a " nervous breakdown " last month and has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and perhaps schizophrenia. She can't go back to high school because of her anxiety and is on homebound instruction. Her parents are just starting on this whole journey (bright spot : I was able to direct them to a great child psych. at least). She has such bad tremors from the meds that she won't leave the house. They are debating trying a different med combo, but of course they risk destabilizing her. The horrible medication nightmare is just beginning for them. And they want a different doctor because the one they got (in an emergency situation) barely speaks English. And THEN this evening I heard my other neighbor, who has three small (under 5) boys, all with physical AND mental disabilities (maybe autism? PPD?an unusual genetic disorder?) is moving. Her husband finally joined the army so they could afford the health care their boys need. Of course they will now move every three years, requiring new doctors, psychiatrists, etc., but at least they will have insurance. What kind of world is this where a family with that much on their plate has to resign themselves to moving every three years just so their kids will have appropriate care?? And how CAN they get appropriate care if they have new doctors every three years??(Kathy H. - their first post in is Hawaii! Maybe I could hook them up with 's beloved para!!) Sigh. Sorry to be so down, but I had to vent for a minute. At least my daughter has insurance and both a child psychiatrist and a psychologist looking after her. But that is only one child out of five on our little street!! Anyway, enough. I hope everyone has a peaceful and lovely spring weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Hello everyone, What a week. I feel so sad after weeks like this when I feel as if half the children in the world have huge problems and none of them get the help they need. Reading J.'s reports on Tommy make me feel both sad and happy that at least they are getting some help - but it always seems to be two steps backward, one step forward... So, on the home front - Annie has started picking at her scalp until it bleeds, and then picking at the scabs and then... you get the picture. She insists it's going away, but yesterday she came down in the a.m. with her head a bloody mess. Sigh. And today she and her best friend had a huge fight, which i guess has been simmering all week (hence the sudden upswing in OCD probably). So she is a mess, and very very sad. Then I found out today that my neighbor's 16 yr. old had a " nervous breakdown " last month and has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and perhaps schizophrenia. She can't go back to high school because of her anxiety and is on homebound instruction. Her parents are just starting on this whole journey (bright spot : I was able to direct them to a great child psych. at least). She has such bad tremors from the meds that she won't leave the house. They are debating trying a different med combo, but of course they risk destabilizing her. The horrible medication nightmare is just beginning for them. And they want a different doctor because the one they got (in an emergency situation) barely speaks English. And THEN this evening I heard my other neighbor, who has three small (under 5) boys, all with physical AND mental disabilities (maybe autism? PPD?an unusual genetic disorder?) is moving. Her husband finally joined the army so they could afford the health care their boys need. Of course they will now move every three years, requiring new doctors, psychiatrists, etc., but at least they will have insurance. What kind of world is this where a family with that much on their plate has to resign themselves to moving every three years just so their kids will have appropriate care?? And how CAN they get appropriate care if they have new doctors every three years??(Kathy H. - their first post in is Hawaii! Maybe I could hook them up with 's beloved para!!) Sigh. Sorry to be so down, but I had to vent for a minute. At least my daughter has insurance and both a child psychiatrist and a psychologist looking after her. But that is only one child out of five on our little street!! Anyway, enough. I hope everyone has a peaceful and lovely spring weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Hi , you wrote: Sigh. Sorry to be so down, but I had to vent for a minute. At least my daughter has insurance and both a child psychiatrist and a psychologist looking after her. But that is only one child out of five on our little street!! Five children with brain disorders on one little street...I sometimes wonder what is going on, I just don't remember brain disorders being so common when I was growing up. Or, are we just better at diagnosing and treating them these days? I'm thinking of autism spectrum, ADD, etc. as much as the anxiety disorders. In any case it's wierd when one of the things you have to be thankful for is so basic: that your daughter has access to appropriate care. Yet I realize I am lucky too in this regard and can easily think of three or four families I know who are not so lucky. Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Hi , you wrote: Sigh. Sorry to be so down, but I had to vent for a minute. At least my daughter has insurance and both a child psychiatrist and a psychologist looking after her. But that is only one child out of five on our little street!! Five children with brain disorders on one little street...I sometimes wonder what is going on, I just don't remember brain disorders being so common when I was growing up. Or, are we just better at diagnosing and treating them these days? I'm thinking of autism spectrum, ADD, etc. as much as the anxiety disorders. In any case it's wierd when one of the things you have to be thankful for is so basic: that your daughter has access to appropriate care. Yet I realize I am lucky too in this regard and can easily think of three or four families I know who are not so lucky. Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Hi , you wrote: Sigh. Sorry to be so down, but I had to vent for a minute. At least my daughter has insurance and both a child psychiatrist and a psychologist looking after her. But that is only one child out of five on our little street!! Five children with brain disorders on one little street...I sometimes wonder what is going on, I just don't remember brain disorders being so common when I was growing up. Or, are we just better at diagnosing and treating them these days? I'm thinking of autism spectrum, ADD, etc. as much as the anxiety disorders. In any case it's wierd when one of the things you have to be thankful for is so basic: that your daughter has access to appropriate care. Yet I realize I am lucky too in this regard and can easily think of three or four families I know who are not so lucky. Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 We frequently talk about the fact that almost no families with only NDA kids understand. They have 'ordinary' kids (never mind the grief that that brings). We have special kids. With Jan's terrible illnesses of the past couple of years, we've done some thinking. She has touched so many people, whether it was a first grade class she lectured to (without parents) about her role as an athlete in 1995 World Games or whether it is her influence on her own family. We did think about the 'what if's' if she didn't make it. This one person has had an incredible influence on hundreds of others. Not too many people have done so well. Our opinion is that most families just have ordinary children (and all the grief that comes with ordinary children). We're lucky. We've got one who changed our lives, the lives of their siblings, and lives of many, many others. It isn't that Jan wouldn't choose not to have down syndrome, but you get that the same as curly hair. It's what you are and what you build on, not the image of what you might have been. (BTW, I'm the one in the family with curly hair) Each of us have different children (or perhaps other relationships) with DS. Each of our children brings a richness to life that wouldn't have been experienced without them. What more could we ask, even though it gets tough at times. Rick ......... dad to 29 year old Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Well said Rick!!! Thank you. Elaine re: our kids We frequently talk about the fact that almost no families with only NDA kids understand. They have 'ordinary' kids (never mind the grief that that brings). We have special kids. With Jan's terrible illnesses of the past couple of years, we've done some thinking. She has touched so many people, whether it was a first grade class she lectured to (without parents) about her role as an athlete in 1995 World Games or whether it is her influence on her own family. We did think about the 'what if's' if she didn't make it. This one person has had an incredible influence on hundreds of others. Not too many people have done so well. Our opinion is that most families just have ordinary children (and all the grief that comes with ordinary children). We're lucky. We've got one who changed our lives, the lives of their siblings, and lives of many, many others. It isn't that Jan wouldn't choose not to have down syndrome, but you get that the same as curly hair. It's what you are and what you build on, not the image of what you might have been. (BTW, I'm the one in the family with curly hair) Each of us have different children (or perhaps other relationships) with DS. Each of our children brings a richness to life that wouldn't have been experienced without them. What more could we ask, even though it gets tough at times. Rick ......... dad to 29 year old Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Ooooo, good idea. > This is more scariness. How bout letting know? > mike@m... > Isn't Flint his hometown? > > > The following " program " was initiated by the Flint Community School System > in Flint, Michigan....grades K-3...DISGUSTING. How in the hell could a > kindergardner or 3rd grader for that matter give accurate information on > what is being asked? AND this is NOBODYS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It is listed as part of the Student Assistance Program under the Ofc. of > Safe and Drug Free Schools but is being labeled as a 'fun' program that will > boost children's confidence in school. It is aimed at children in K- 3rd > grade.The 8 areas that may be administered as part of a " student survey, > analysis, or evaluation " are: > > 1. Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or student's family > 2. Mental or psychological problems of the student or student's family > 3. Sex behavior or attitudes > 4.Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating, or demeaning behavior > 5.Critical appraisals of others with whom respondents have close family > relationships > 6. Legally recognized privileged relationships, such as with lawyers, > doctors, or ministers > 7. Religious practices, affiliations, or beliefs of the student or parents > 8.Income, other than as required by law to determine program eligibility > > Parents have the opportunity to opt-out but we all know how easily the > school could make a mistake (either legitimately or otherwise) and allow our > children to be put through a series of questions that in completely > unnecessary and infringes upon our privacy and rights. > > > Kathy Paro-Smeby > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Ooooo, good idea. > This is more scariness. How bout letting know? > mike@m... > Isn't Flint his hometown? > > > The following " program " was initiated by the Flint Community School System > in Flint, Michigan....grades K-3...DISGUSTING. How in the hell could a > kindergardner or 3rd grader for that matter give accurate information on > what is being asked? AND this is NOBODYS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It is listed as part of the Student Assistance Program under the Ofc. of > Safe and Drug Free Schools but is being labeled as a 'fun' program that will > boost children's confidence in school. It is aimed at children in K- 3rd > grade.The 8 areas that may be administered as part of a " student survey, > analysis, or evaluation " are: > > 1. Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or student's family > 2. Mental or psychological problems of the student or student's family > 3. Sex behavior or attitudes > 4.Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating, or demeaning behavior > 5.Critical appraisals of others with whom respondents have close family > relationships > 6. Legally recognized privileged relationships, such as with lawyers, > doctors, or ministers > 7. Religious practices, affiliations, or beliefs of the student or parents > 8.Income, other than as required by law to determine program eligibility > > Parents have the opportunity to opt-out but we all know how easily the > school could make a mistake (either legitimately or otherwise) and allow our > children to be put through a series of questions that in completely > unnecessary and infringes upon our privacy and rights. > > > Kathy Paro-Smeby > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Ooooo, good idea. > This is more scariness. How bout letting know? > mike@m... > Isn't Flint his hometown? > > > The following " program " was initiated by the Flint Community School System > in Flint, Michigan....grades K-3...DISGUSTING. How in the hell could a > kindergardner or 3rd grader for that matter give accurate information on > what is being asked? AND this is NOBODYS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It is listed as part of the Student Assistance Program under the Ofc. of > Safe and Drug Free Schools but is being labeled as a 'fun' program that will > boost children's confidence in school. It is aimed at children in K- 3rd > grade.The 8 areas that may be administered as part of a " student survey, > analysis, or evaluation " are: > > 1. Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or student's family > 2. Mental or psychological problems of the student or student's family > 3. Sex behavior or attitudes > 4.Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating, or demeaning behavior > 5.Critical appraisals of others with whom respondents have close family > relationships > 6. Legally recognized privileged relationships, such as with lawyers, > doctors, or ministers > 7. Religious practices, affiliations, or beliefs of the student or parents > 8.Income, other than as required by law to determine program eligibility > > Parents have the opportunity to opt-out but we all know how easily the > school could make a mistake (either legitimately or otherwise) and allow our > children to be put through a series of questions that in completely > unnecessary and infringes upon our privacy and rights. > > > Kathy Paro-Smeby > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Ooooo, good idea. > This is more scariness. How bout letting know? > mike@m... > Isn't Flint his hometown? > > > The following " program " was initiated by the Flint Community School System > in Flint, Michigan....grades K-3...DISGUSTING. How in the hell could a > kindergardner or 3rd grader for that matter give accurate information on > what is being asked? AND this is NOBODYS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It is listed as part of the Student Assistance Program under the Ofc. of > Safe and Drug Free Schools but is being labeled as a 'fun' program that will > boost children's confidence in school. It is aimed at children in K- 3rd > grade.The 8 areas that may be administered as part of a " student survey, > analysis, or evaluation " are: > > 1. Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or student's family > 2. Mental or psychological problems of the student or student's family > 3. Sex behavior or attitudes > 4.Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating, or demeaning behavior > 5.Critical appraisals of others with whom respondents have close family > relationships > 6. Legally recognized privileged relationships, such as with lawyers, > doctors, or ministers > 7. Religious practices, affiliations, or beliefs of the student or parents > 8.Income, other than as required by law to determine program eligibility > > Parents have the opportunity to opt-out but we all know how easily the > school could make a mistake (either legitimately or otherwise) and allow our > children to be put through a series of questions that in completely > unnecessary and infringes upon our privacy and rights. > > > Kathy Paro-Smeby > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 This is more scariness. How bout letting know? mike@... Isn't Flint his hometown? The following " program " was initiated by the Flint Community School System in Flint, Michigan....grades K-3...DISGUSTING. How in the hell could a kindergardner or 3rd grader for that matter give accurate information on what is being asked? AND this is NOBODYS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is listed as part of the Student Assistance Program under the Ofc. of Safe and Drug Free Schools but is being labeled as a 'fun' program that will boost children's confidence in school. It is aimed at children in K-3rd grade.The 8 areas that may be administered as part of a " student survey, analysis, or evaluation " are: 1. Political affiliations or beliefs of the student or student's family 2. Mental or psychological problems of the student or student's family 3. Sex behavior or attitudes 4.Illegal, anti-social, self-incriminating, or demeaning behavior 5.Critical appraisals of others with whom respondents have close family relationships 6. Legally recognized privileged relationships, such as with lawyers, doctors, or ministers 7. Religious practices, affiliations, or beliefs of the student or parents 8.Income, other than as required by law to determine program eligibility Parents have the opportunity to opt-out but we all know how easily the school could make a mistake (either legitimately or otherwise) and allow our children to be put through a series of questions that in completely unnecessary and infringes upon our privacy and rights. Kathy Paro-Smeby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Jim, I think the thing that jumped out at me in that whole post was the question about the parents' political affiliation. I couldn't help but think of the article I shared with you off-list all the whiling that it was a rumor ... and my question is, what business is it of theirs whether the parents are liberal, conservative, apolitical, or not comfortable with the left/right paradigm at all?I'm off-line now but will definitely send this alert to , it's very serious indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Jim, I think the thing that jumped out at me in that whole post was the question about the parents' political affiliation. I couldn't help but think of the article I shared with you off-list all the whiling that it was a rumor ... and my question is, what business is it of theirs whether the parents are liberal, conservative, apolitical, or not comfortable with the left/right paradigm at all?I'm off-line now but will definitely send this alert to , it's very serious indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 , Yes and very Un-American, the real America that is, the one in my heart Constant awareness and willingness to fight back, that is the price of freedom. Best, Jim Jim, I think the thing that jumped out at me in that whole post was the question about the parents' political affiliation. I couldn't help but think of the article I shared with you off-list all the whiling that it was a rumor ... and my question is, what business is it of theirs whether the parents are liberal, conservative, apolitical, or not comfortable with the left/right paradigm at all?I'm off-line now but will definitely send this alert to , it's very serious indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 , Yes and very Un-American, the real America that is, the one in my heart Constant awareness and willingness to fight back, that is the price of freedom. Best, Jim Jim, I think the thing that jumped out at me in that whole post was the question about the parents' political affiliation. I couldn't help but think of the article I shared with you off-list all the whiling that it was a rumor ... and my question is, what business is it of theirs whether the parents are liberal, conservative, apolitical, or not comfortable with the left/right paradigm at all?I'm off-line now but will definitely send this alert to , it's very serious indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Couldn't agree more ... I sent the email and some of my own personal comments about websites and audio clips he might use in his documentary. I also was struck by the wording under question 2 about political affiliations of the parents, they want to know the parents' political beliefs .. so if Mommy says we didn't get fair or free elections or she is opposed to a certain political policy and little ny or Susie answers the questionaire, one wonders what will be the consequences. Later on in the questionaire they ask about the parents' religious beliefs .. and in my opinion neither the parent nor the child should have to give out that information is they so choose! You're right that we need to be vigillant, .. which is why the framers of the Constitution added the Bill of Rights, most importantly in this case the First Ammendment. One thing I'm wondering is if Gloria or Sheila from http://www.ablechild.org have seen this, if not, they need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Couldn't agree more ... I sent the email and some of my own personal comments about websites and audio clips he might use in his documentary. I also was struck by the wording under question 2 about political affiliations of the parents, they want to know the parents' political beliefs .. so if Mommy says we didn't get fair or free elections or she is opposed to a certain political policy and little ny or Susie answers the questionaire, one wonders what will be the consequences. Later on in the questionaire they ask about the parents' religious beliefs .. and in my opinion neither the parent nor the child should have to give out that information is they so choose! You're right that we need to be vigillant, .. which is why the framers of the Constitution added the Bill of Rights, most importantly in this case the First Ammendment. One thing I'm wondering is if Gloria or Sheila from http://www.ablechild.org have seen this, if not, they need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hi, Kathy! I was doing a bit of brainstorming last night .. and it occurred to me that we might do several things. First, I'd like to contact both the Rutherford Institute and the Christian Law Association with this information ... they need a heads-up about the enfringement of parents' and children's rights in the nature of the questions, especially the ones about the parents' political and religious beliefs. If the folks at ablechild.org can get on it, they can mobilize religious and civil liberties groups to stop the questionaire from being used. I'd also encourage you to contact the ACLU in your area and be prepared to present to them either a hard copy or a link if you have it to the Flint MI Community School System's screening questionaire if they have it on the website, that is depending on how secretive they are about this. I think it's disgusting too and the sooner we all get on it the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hi, Kathy! I was doing a bit of brainstorming last night .. and it occurred to me that we might do several things. First, I'd like to contact both the Rutherford Institute and the Christian Law Association with this information ... they need a heads-up about the enfringement of parents' and children's rights in the nature of the questions, especially the ones about the parents' political and religious beliefs. If the folks at ablechild.org can get on it, they can mobilize religious and civil liberties groups to stop the questionaire from being used. I'd also encourage you to contact the ACLU in your area and be prepared to present to them either a hard copy or a link if you have it to the Flint MI Community School System's screening questionaire if they have it on the website, that is depending on how secretive they are about this. I think it's disgusting too and the sooner we all get on it the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hi, Kathy! I was doing a bit of brainstorming last night .. and it occurred to me that we might do several things. First, I'd like to contact both the Rutherford Institute and the Christian Law Association with this information ... they need a heads-up about the enfringement of parents' and children's rights in the nature of the questions, especially the ones about the parents' political and religious beliefs. If the folks at ablechild.org can get on it, they can mobilize religious and civil liberties groups to stop the questionaire from being used. I'd also encourage you to contact the ACLU in your area and be prepared to present to them either a hard copy or a link if you have it to the Flint MI Community School System's screening questionaire if they have it on the website, that is depending on how secretive they are about this. I think it's disgusting too and the sooner we all get on it the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hi, Kathy! I was doing a bit of brainstorming last night .. and it occurred to me that we might do several things. First, I'd like to contact both the Rutherford Institute and the Christian Law Association with this information ... they need a heads-up about the enfringement of parents' and children's rights in the nature of the questions, especially the ones about the parents' political and religious beliefs. If the folks at ablechild.org can get on it, they can mobilize religious and civil liberties groups to stop the questionaire from being used. I'd also encourage you to contact the ACLU in your area and be prepared to present to them either a hard copy or a link if you have it to the Flint MI Community School System's screening questionaire if they have it on the website, that is depending on how secretive they are about this. I think it's disgusting too and the sooner we all get on it the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Sent e-mail to . Also sent info to Able Child website. Getting ready to write the Flint Journal. I would write to Grandholm (Gov.) but I don't trust her. I was told by a retired Flint Journal criminal writer that there are " dirty " people in that office. (Drug running in state, etc.) Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Sent e-mail to . Also sent info to Able Child website. Getting ready to write the Flint Journal. I would write to Grandholm (Gov.) but I don't trust her. I was told by a retired Flint Journal criminal writer that there are " dirty " people in that office. (Drug running in state, etc.) Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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